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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner
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on: May 22, 2017, 07:45:03 PM
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125 amp sub panel all 10 awg wire feeding 30 amp 240v outlets
Sounds to code. Holmes on Homes would be proud Yup, if your still dealing with 120v for mining your going to burn something down eventually (especially if the outlet is not near your panel). This is what all my miners run off...DIY 240v junction boxes running 10AWG to 30A double pole breakers in panel (capable of at least 6kw continous draw per box). Each box has relays controlled by wireless pi's, so always have full remote control shutoff/start up for locked hardware etc. Dont need to step foot in mine unless im adding new stuff How bout that for an equivalent of a 1K USD PDU unit for 50 bucks worth of parts Is it so dangerous to run 4 x L3+ 24/7 (only 1 L3+ (~800W) / circuit breaker) with 120v? I intend to use a EVGA T2 1600W PSU for each L3+... maybe use 'eco mode' to reduce noise, but I'm not sure yet... The answers so far have been incredibly useful... thank you guys so much for that! If you try and mine it all on one breaker you will most certainly trip it (most 120v breakers are 15-20A)...4X L3+ miners will pull 27 amps on 120v. Even two on a single breaker is pushing 120v. So good luck finding 4 separate outlets that are on separate breakers. Its really easy to make a 240v box. Even if your not an electrician its not rocket science. Just buy a double pole 30A breaker (about 10 bucks), some 10gauge wiring (its orange color in any home supply store), and some outlets. Take off your panel and turn off the main breaker if you've never done this to be super safe. The breaker literally just plugs into the main bus slots inside your panel. Connect the black and white wires to the breaker, and the exposed copper to the ground bus bar. Then just hook up the other end to your outlets (you can use the 120v kind, almost all PSUs work at 240v so there is no need to buy 240v outlets and new cables for PSU etc). You can pull at total of about 6kw from this 30A double pole breaker...enough to power all 4 of your L3+ and then some! Plus all your wires will be super cool and don't have to worry about your old 120v wiring in your house catching fire.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner
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on: May 22, 2017, 07:27:05 PM
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Found 2 blocks today. That makes 3 in 9 days. Earned 27 LTC in pool, solo would have been 75 plus fees. That's the way the cookie crumbles.
Just on one unit? Or across multiple miners? 2 units (504x2) what pool are you using? I ordered as well but its my first time. I already asked for some pointers but no-one replied. and how would you mine solo? do you need special software and setups? litecoinpool.org They raised PPS rates from 102% to 105% to 108% this weekend. Either they are tracking ahead on finding blocks or people are moving to other scrypt alts as Litecoin isn't the most profitable scrypt alt at the moment. Doge has double in price (the main merged mine coin with Litecoin). Thats the only reason PPS went up to 108. FYI for each LTC block they find, they mine an equivalent of ~2.7 of LTC worth in Doge...thats an equivalent of ~111% PPS so effective pool fee is 2-3%
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Last month more GPUs went online than entire combined GPUs during Litecoin days
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on: May 21, 2017, 09:50:36 PM
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Its really hard to imagine these record breaking hashrate levels without ASICs in the Ethereum ecosystem.
That's a big, likely false assumption. But yeah your point stands; eveyone and their pets are buying mining rigs and once the bubble bursts it will be bad and maybe some plug and play nicehash miners will sell their hardware off, but mining won't die anytime soon. Something, something quantum computers. The questions I think are; when the bubble will burst, how hard it will burst and will this bubble help cryptos long term (due to potential massive profits) or will it have a detrimental effect (massive losses, volatility). Yea this should be interesting to watch...this is why I only buy hardware that is already ROIed (i.e. I only buy with pure profit). This kind of probability is nice for the short term, but its definitely not sustainable.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner
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on: May 20, 2017, 06:20:03 AM
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125 amp sub panel all 10 awg wire feeding 30 amp 240v outlets
Sounds to code. Holmes on Homes would be proud Yup, if your still dealing with 120v for mining your going to burn something down eventually (especially if the outlet is not near your panel). This is what all my miners run off...DIY 240v junction boxes running 10AWG to 30A double pole breakers in panel (capable of at least 6kw continous draw per box). Each box has relays controlled by wireless pi's, so always have full remote control shutoff/start up for locked hardware etc. Dont need to step foot in mine unless im adding new stuff How bout that for an equivalent of a 1K USD PDU unit for 50 bucks worth of parts
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner
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on: May 17, 2017, 09:37:06 PM
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Jstefanop - okay. You said it was different than previous boards which is what got me confused, didn't know if they had changed something. What you describe is present on almost every miner after the S5. S7 (145-chip batches), S9, T9, R4 all have a string regulator like that. Novak and I were thinking about bucked strings back in 2014. To me, what makes it either the best or almost the worst topology is whether or not the user is able to adjust the voltage. If core voltage regulation is in play, the user absolutely should be allowed to adjust it.
Yea sorry I was compare it to the S5 boards. I don't have any S7s or 9s. It is controllable, the reg is connected via a PIC, but you have to hack their driver. Its not currently exposed user side.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner
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on: May 17, 2017, 06:12:44 PM
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At the top there is a voltage regulator that actually regulates the input voltages divided by the serial chain (which their previous machines did not do and was one of the reasons for fried boards).
Please explain this point. The board is designed in an array of 12 serialized banks of 6 chips. So each bank of 6 chips receives whatever the input voltage is divided by 12. Their first serialized power boards just divided the input voltage straight from the power supply. So whatever was coming in those 12v inputs to the boards is what the chips received (i.e. if the input voltage was really 11.5 chips would receive 958mv at the core, or if it was 12.5 they would receive 1042mv. This was a wide range for different power supplies etc which caused too high of core voltage and thats why so many S5 boards got fried. This board has a single regulator that regulates that 12v input, (whatever it is) to a set point (I haven't measured it yet but I'm assuming its going to be in the 9-11v range for these chips, which translates to a core voltage of around 800-900mv). So the cool part about this setup is that first you can use a wide range of input voltages (controller is LM27402 with input range of 3-20v), second the core voltage on the serial chain can be under/over volted, and third you have a clean supply to the chips and don't have to worry about PSU spikes/sags on input voltage.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner
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on: May 16, 2017, 05:22:44 PM
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So after tearing these things apart and figuring out how they work (driver for these are open source as well which is cool), pretty sure that bitmain is purposely shipping these to underperform. The actual boards are built to output way more power than they currently are with shipped settings.
I've been able to play with the voltage controller on the boards and have them hashing at over 600mh currently with same power draw lol. I might try a over volt/ over clock and see what I can push them at within the thermal envelope.
Your joking, that is absolutely insane and on a new level of scummy/scammy. So they are running these things at 20% higher hashing power in their own facilities, but then shipping them with crappier settings so that they keep a higher percentage of the network without having to do squat. That is pretty shitty, even for them. Or we accept the other side of the argument and suppose that they are idiots who didn't know they could be pushed that far, seems unlikely though. Push them at your own risk. I have not seen this overbuilt rock solid miner you speak of. Pull it apart and it is the same garbage that Bitmain sells. I have been playing around the world with hash boards and controllers for the L3's at stock settings since about a month after I received them and still have a miner down awaiting parts repairs. So no WAY would I even attempt to turn up the clocks. If I were to turn up anything it is going to be the fans to keep those inner boards cool. Proceed at your own risk... Pay attention to those interior board temps and HW errors. I think this is a bad idea. Well I'm speaking from a purely engineering standpoint, and compared to the last thing I bought (used) from bitmain being an S5 they have pretty much perfected these miners. Also the last scrypt machines Ive used were Zeus/Alcheminers (which were crap, and almost all 500 units of alcheminers sold are running my firmware these days which fixed alot of issues with them). I know you bought in early with the L3, which seemed like were the guinea pig test bed for their L3+'s, but I really cannot find anything wrong with the L3+ from a technical perspective. The thermal engineering alone is impressive...these things have chip densities rivaled by immersion boards(more on that in a bit), on air cooling. The serial design is also pretty rock solid. At the top there is a voltage regulator that actually regulates the input voltages divided by the serial chain (which their previous machines did not do and was one of the reasons for fried boards). The actual regulator has an inductor rated for 40 amps, plus dual high side mosfets rated for 60 AMPS continuous EACH. For comparison the typical power draw of each board at stock settings is about 15-16 amps. Thats WAY overbuilt by cheap miner engineering standards. So back to immersion, my guess is that Bitmain is running these boards for their hashnest cloud in immersion coolers, and probably have them running at near the maximum capacity of the regulator (which is 30-40 amps). I would not be surprised if they have them hashing in the 800mh range. I might break out my immersion prototype tank for these and see what I can do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5-BaH8_SAk
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner
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on: May 16, 2017, 04:50:44 AM
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So after tearing these things apart and figuring out how they work (driver for these are open source as well which is cool), pretty sure that bitmain is purposely shipping these to underperform. The actual boards are built to output way more power than they currently are with shipped settings.
I've been able to play with the voltage controller on the boards and have them hashing at over 600mh currently with same power draw lol. I might try a over volt/ over clock and see what I can push them at within the thermal envelope.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner
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on: May 13, 2017, 07:52:34 PM
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Ok, i want to buy some PSU´s at 110v for L3+ , it would be great if some of the old miners can help with some questions Its safe to run this L3+ on 110v ? What PSU at 110v you recommend? Thanks in advance Just buy a dual pole breaker...connected some 12 gauge wire to it, stick the breaker in your panel and connect a socket box on the other end. Wallah 240v socket for $20 worth of parts and half an hour of your time. Its really not as hard or intimidating as it seems, just double check your wiring and don't switch on the breaker before everything is wired and you'll be set.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: AMD Rebrand - RX570 / RX580 - Official Thread - 30MH ETH
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on: May 12, 2017, 05:36:38 PM
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RX580 Sapphire Nitro+ 8GB Hynix at 1150 Mhz Core and 2150 Memory and Voltage -75mv - Trixx RX580 Sapphire Pulse 8GB Hynix at 1150 Mhz Core and 2150 Memory and Voltage -75mv - Trixx
Maybe not all cards can be undervolted -75mv OR maybe more then -75mv
Strap copied to 2:1750, 2:2000, 2:2250: 777000000000000022AA1C00B56A6D46C0551017BE8E060C006AE6000C081420EA8900AB0300000 01B162C31C0313F17 here is a blank, check you copy all without the blank (forum changes it?)
ETH: 30.1 - 30.3 - 100% Stable, 0 Errors, about 2 weeks
Long time i tried bios mods and many other memory straps, this one is the only working flawless with 30 MHs. Other straps got me lower MH on memory overclock or blackscreens and artefacts
30.3 with RX580 Pulse??? I have the same card and i strapped at 1625 but i'm not able to push over 26 , my other rig with 480 work at 29 easy Doing 30MH on the RX 570 Pulse with -200mv (775mv core voltage). Pulling 95 watts at the wall
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner
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on: May 11, 2017, 11:03:02 PM
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I suspect it'd be less of a problem with a weaker PSU. Since the overcurrent cutoff on the DPS1200 is about 500 watts higher than expected draw on a L3+, if something goes wrong and a hashboard decides to pull 600 watts instead of 200 watts the cables will notice a long time before the PSU does.
Every time I check the supply boards they're running clean and cool. The one burned up last night had been running clean and cool since Friday afternoon. Almost has to be something screwy with the hashboards, but it's been a different miner on a different power supply each time.
Looks like we'll be swapping in 850W supplies with a less generous overcurrent cutoff and see what happens.
Interested to see if anyone else has had issues.
Was it on stock clocks or were they overclocked? The firmware is supposed to have auto-shutdown if any of the boards get hotter than 80c, so I doubt it was an overheat issue. Either a FET blew on the input rail on one of the boards, or one of the chips in the chain blew.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner
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on: May 06, 2017, 07:40:38 AM
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Of course I had to take one apart and see how it works Hashboards simply slide in on rails inside aluminum enclosure and are just secured by the top fan mount Top of hash board with individual heatsinks glued on each of the 72 chips. Inductor and input/output caps are on the top Back of hashboard...so this is obviously a serial design, there are 12 banks of 6 chips. Each bank is connected in series with eachother, so core voltage is around input voltage/12 (probably around 1v). What interesting is that there is what seems to be a controllable voltage regulator on the input (since each board pulls 16 amps you can easily regulate the input voltage for the whole series design with just a single regulator). Their past designs just straight up divided the input voltage from the supply (which is why you could easily fry those boards with PSUs that output higher than 12v). And a shot of their custom manufactured beaglebone and breakout board for it. Should be able to get some interesting overclocks/undervolts once I get in the beaglebone and figure out how to access the voltage controller (hopefully its not fixed).
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner
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on: May 06, 2017, 12:31:23 AM
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Even though I hate these guys and how they act, they sure know how to make solid miners. Just set up one and initial impressions are pretty good. They are dead on for the specs. Each hashboard is currently pulling 16.4 ams @ 11.5v and is doing between 500-530 MH currently. Chips are running in the 60c range which is surprising with the insane chip density these boards have. The fans are also PMW controlled which is a nice upgrade since the S5 I had. Fans are actually surprisingly quiet, most of the noise is from a "wind tunnel howl" that is occurring inside the unit. You can check out poolside hashrate here: http://www.arisechickun.com/workers Ill put some pics up later. Here is the status shot of the miner currently:
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner
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on: May 05, 2017, 05:45:02 PM
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Just got my units in...will be fun to tear these apart and see what cool stuff I can come up with them I just got this voicemail " Good afternoon. My name is Kathy. I'm calling from Fedex trade networks in reference to an international shipment being sent to XXXXXX in XXXXX, Ohio avenue in coming in from China, and I'm calling cuz I'm trying to pre clear paperwork for the shipment. I need to obtain a form for customs clearance due to the high value of the goods. I was calling today to obtain an email address to forward the importer form for the Bitcoin Miners being shipped under tracking number XXXXXXXX if you can please reference that tracking number and contact me today. I am in the office until 3:30 p.m.. Eastern standard time easiest way to reach me is through. Email which is 610797@fedex.com. I can also be reached by phone at 844-320 8072 and My Direct extension is 6325 thank you. Have a good day. " Yea I got the same call...you have to send them a form and with your damn SS# because the import is valued at more than $2500 :/
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