Not personally, but im sure my distributors would be interested if you can send more sales their way.

hmm didnt not think about that kind of use case...the drivers are actually not compatible either way, since ASICs are completely different. Youll most likely need to launch two diffrent instances of bfgminer to run them together.

The final PCB size will be similar to origonal moonlander. Even though this thing sips power on the lower end, it still needs a rather large heatsink for people that want to push it.

Yes this is what alot of people use USB miners for. This will work with any scypt based coin or pool.

Just shoot me a PM if your interested in bulk supplying in China...but with your newbie account I wouldnt consider this unless you have an established userbase/website in china that you sell similar products.

Hmm guess I was too conservative...looks like well be looking at way over 600k by end of september And then we have another 10k in October batch that just sold out...so bye bye easy profitability with these :/

Official announcement is out!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2125643.msg21230912#msg21230912

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THIS IS THE GENERAL INFO THREAD: Keep this thread on topic!
All order related questions go here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2141261.0
All support related questions and driver updates/download links here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2420357.0
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UPDATE 12/6/17

Batch 2 Pre-Orders start tomorrow with estimated Mid January shipments. More info here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2141261.0

UPDATE 11/16/17

Batch 1 Pre-orders are now being shipped out!

Support thread is also up below. Please use this thread to find driver downloads, instructions, and all support related questions.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2420357.0

UPDATE 9/25/17

The final design has been locked in for production next month, and I'm happy to reveal it you all! PCB is a cool matte black design, with the same anodized black aluminum heatsink as the original moonlander. I decided to include both memory voltage adjustment in addition to core voltage, as my tests had an efficiency gain of 10-20% for ASICs that can handle lower memory voltage!

As a super thank you to all who pre-ordered I decided to include a 25mm fan into the cooling solution as well, so no need to come up with clumsy external fan solutions to keep these cool. A top side small ASIC heatsink will also be included to further increase thermal efficiency (it will be black not blue). With this setup I've achieved 1.6W/MH all the way up to 800mhz, which is 4.6 MH of hash power for just 7.5 watts! Pretty impressive for a chip thats designed to do 3.8 MH at the same watts.

Check out the pics below!

UPDATE 9/4/17

Pre-order is now over...please use the below linked pre-order thread for all discussion on order related topics

UPDATE 9/1/17

Official Pre-order has started and links are here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2141261.msg21415891#msg21415891


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Well this one has been a long time coming, but after many months of negotiations, design, and testing I finally have a new USB Stick miner to announce based on a latest gen scrypt chip, that makes this stick one of the most powerful, profitable, and efficient USB Stick miners ever released (even beats bitmain in efficiency with about 1.3 w/mh)!

Like with the original Moonlander project, my goals are the same for this stick and what it means for the crypto community. Build a low cost and easy to use scrypt USB miner that will put mining and Litecoin use into thousands of hands that would have never had the means or experience to do mining before! Except I can hopefully realize this goal this time around, since the original Moonlander project was based on a obsolete chip I happened to get the last remaining stock in, this chip is in full production, and have access to the first batches of chips from the foundry!

So without further ado here is the FutureBit Moonlander 2!



Specs: (these are prototype specs and can change in production version)

- 3mh to 5.5mh scrypt performance per miner
- uses about 1.5w/mh for most of that range
- core clock from 500mhz to nearly 1GHz!
- fully customizable core voltage range from .6 - 1v, as well as adjustable memory voltage
- Fully redesigned 5v->core voltage stage with about 95% efficiency
- Heavy duty/over speced parts were used to ensure wide range of operation (stick can be pushed to nearly 6mh if you can cool it)
- Custom heatsink design, and the first USB miner to feature a built in 25mm Fan!
- status LEDs for power, TX and RX transmission
- uses latest bfgminer 5.4 for control
- Will work with all Mac OS, Linux, and Windows based PCs, as well as RPi's etc (and I will be offering easy to use pre-compiled binaries)


The Moonlander 2 is over 4x the speed, over 5x the efficiency, and nearly 5x the profitability (if you guys remember when the original moonlander came out, it was doing about $2 a month, this stick is doing almost $10 per month at current price/difficulty). This beats out any other stick miner whether scrypt or any other algo!

Best part is that this stick is consuming under 5 watts at its peak efficiency range (~ 4MH), so unlike the original Moonlander which was nearly impossible to operate without a hub and fan, this stick can easily run on USB 3 power with no fan in the 3-4MH range.


Production:

Batch 1 was successfully produced, and shipped out to all pre-orders. Batch 2 is currently underway, check out the pre-order thread for more info on ordering.

Pre-Order/Cost:

Just like the original Moonlander I'm more interested in getting mining and crypto out to as many hands as possible than pure profits (so I need you guys to push these out to all your friends for stocking stuffers and introduction crypto/mining!). While id love to keep the price at around $30 like the original, it will unfortunately not be possible this time around since I got the original ASIC for practically free, this time its a brand new ASIC so I'm paying around $15 just for the ASIC alone. Pricing will most likely be in the 50-70 USD range based on batch component costs and ASIC pricing. (Considering my original is still selling for over $50, and this one is way more efficient and profitable I hope you guys still consider this a steal).

Ordering will also be done a little differently this time, since Im a one guy shop, I was pretty overwhelmed in shipping out hundreds of sticks in time for everyone to get them ASAP, and this time the number of sticks will be way more so I have enlisted a few distributors around the world to handle pre-orders and distribution. Most of these guys you already know and trust so hope that wont be an issue. If you are planning on ordering more than 50 sticks, you can still contact me for direct ordering.

USA/Canada/NA will be handled by Scott at HolyBitcoin, and ASICPuppy
Europe and surrounding areas will be handled by Bitshopper.de
Asia and surrounding region klintay/eyeboot
South Africa/Africa Bitmart.com
Australia/NZ bittawm bittawmart.com


Please contact me if you wish to be a distributor in South America/India, these are the last two major regions I don't have distributors in.

Keep in mind I will work with the distributors to keep fair launch pricing on the initial batch, but this will be only for the initial pre-order batch, and wont be able to control pricing past this. The initial batch is for about 1-2k units, so if you want to pick one up at the initial pricing I would pre-order.



BIG THANKS to all the original buyers of my Moonlander stick...you guys made #2 possible, and hopefully with the success of Moonlander 2 ill be able to launch even some more interesting projects I'm working on!

Keep hashing and spread the word!


Oh and some screenshots of the device actually hashing

Normal operation at my scypt pool...driver is not complete yet so its not reporting hardware hashrate...pool hashrate is displayed (756 MHz clock @ 6 watts... ~ 1.4 w/mh!)



Stress test...nearly 6MH!



Power draw..5w @ 648 MHz (~3.8 MH/s) = ~1.3w/MH...the most efficient operational ASIC miner in the world!

 

pre-orders will open soon, wont have chip order until october though.

Welcome! BTW Scott at holybitcoin.com has what is left of this batch if you still want one.

Thats correct...these are designed for the GPU risers, and those are obviously self powered and don't pull power from the actual slot. Only thing that goes over the USB cable is PCIe data lines.

here is a tease for all you original moonlanders Announcement incoming soon!

Vega FE in its current form has its HBM2 working ~ 400 GB/s...about 40GB/s of that discrepancy is actually from the upper stacks on the 16GB HBM2 (FE has two stacks of two 4GB dies on top of each other..the top two dies actually run at lower timings due to hardware limitations...ie top stacks run slower since electrical signals have to go through additional vias to reach top). The other 40GB is due to driver optimizations that AMD is working on right now.

So out of the box we can expect RX Vega to do 440GB/s with its single stacked two dies (8GB total HBM2), plus near 480GB/s if they fixed the driver issues by launch. Thats a 20% bump from the stock ~33-35MH = ~ 41MH. Memory can be overclocked at least 20% from my tests, so thats brings it up to ~50 MH/s. Throw in another 10% with timing optimizations and were looking at about 55MH top eth speed for vega.

Disclamer I DO have a Vega FE and and working with AMD devs to address these issues and was at the siggraph event and talked to Raja. AMD is finally in a corner where they can't ignore the mining market anymore, and I'm doing the best I can do address the mining markets concerns to AMD. Expect more good stuff from them in the future

100 MH is pure BS...the THEORETICAL max that Vega can do with its 480GB/s bus is around 60MH. With overclocked memory (lets be generous and say 20% increase), you could theoretically be looking at ~70MH. Real world you can not hide 100% of the memory latency so 50-60 is more realistic.

Yes thats how difficulty works. Thousands of these units are shipping out, and thousands more will ship out by September.

New people here really need to do some research...FYI a normal ROI for ASICs is in the 6-10 month range. If you get anywhere near that range before the next 1TH miner kills your machines you should be thrilled.

Been saying this for a while, it makes no difference to AMD miners. Our profitability will remain the same. The worst hit for this upgrade will be nvidia cards, but most of them are not mining eth anyway so again all this makes zero difference in the end.

The same people that jumped on the mining craze at its peak not knowing what difficulty is, are the same ones that will be "happy" with the update.

It does ethereum in comparable power to an RX 580 (140 watts). This is down clocked to like 900 MHz, undervolted, and doing ~33mh.

Im at siggraph right now and will be at the RX Vega launch event and meeting Raja later...hopefully Ill have an RX Vega to play with soon

Never said *I* can't ;P Already have it at 1.45v and pushing 1200. Just pointing out the other guy that thinks he's changing HBM2 voltage with the slider on watt man