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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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January 02, 2023, 09:02:24 PM
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PSG have spent so much money to build the team up to the level it is at the moment with the aim of challenging for not just the League trophy but European trophies too, unfortunately they have not been able to achieve the main purpose of the big spendings, they still have not been able to win the champions league so this is a major issue the club will expecting the manager to solve at the club. They have the players but yet have not been able to achieve this for the club.
The target of PSG is to win the Champions League but it has not been easy for them. The champions is the hardest League one can ever think of to win. PSG have made me understand is not about best players in a team to win the Champions league,  sometimes winning the Champions league comes by luck. Real Madrid were able to achieve it without having much big stars players.
Real Madrid won by luck and without big stars there? You're kidding on this one. I think seeing them beat PSG, Manchester City, Chelsea and Liverpool last season people's views on Madrid will be different but still some say it's luck hmm.
Even though there is no luck several times at once we should be aware of this.

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January 02, 2023, 10:52:38 PM
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I'm not sure Liverpool will be able to take revenge well in Real Madrid's match later, as you said Real Madrid are used to in the UCL so they know how to deal with opponents even though there are not many squad teams who might be better than Liverpool, I'm sure Ream Madrid will easily get rid of liverpool
I won't say it's easy for Real Madrid to get rid of Liverpool even though in terms of ability, Real Madrid has more things than Liverpool because Real Madrid's experience in the Champions League has been extraordinary. And one more thing that has made it difficult for Liverpool to face Real Madrid in the Champions League is Liverpool's own appearance which is currently still lacking in consistency, which has made Real Madrid slightly benefit apart from Real Madrid's basic abilities which are still very good.

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January 02, 2023, 10:58:36 PM
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It is really not easy to be confident about anything as for the Liverpool - Real Madrid matchup.

Liverpool are favoured according to the odds for now. But there is no clear favourite in this. Both teams have the strength to eliminate each other. I mean that I know Liverpool's condition in the English Premier League. But they aren't the same in the Champions League. Despite the bad start against Napoli they performed great later on. Real Madrid are already well-known by their great successes here. They are in good shape as well. I expect a competitive matchup here.

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January 02, 2023, 11:00:05 PM
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I won't say it's easy for Real Madrid to get rid of Liverpool even though in terms of ability, Real Madrid has more things than Liverpool because Real Madrid's experience in the Champions League has been extraordinary. And one more thing that has made it difficult for Liverpool to face Real Madrid in the Champions League is Liverpool's own appearance which is currently still lacking in consistency, which has made Real Madrid slightly benefit apart from Real Madrid's basic abilities which are still very good.
Yes, if you look at Liverpool's current condition, it is indeed a bit unprofitable, especially since they have not been consistent with their performance several times. However, maybe this can grow stronger because their motivation to beat Real Madrid has been there for a long time, especially last season where they also lost to Real Madrid to get the UCL trophy. Actually, on the Real Madrid side, they might as well have gone as far as before, especially with Benzema's current condition, but fortunately, they also still have a fairly strong squad and Ancelotti's tactics are often very effective and appropriate for this team. So, it's not going to be easy for Liverpool to take revenge given their current situation. But, once more, sometimes, a football match will result unexpected and surprising results.

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January 02, 2023, 11:01:10 PM
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PSG have spent so much money to build the team up to the level it is at the moment with the aim of challenging for not just the League trophy but European trophies too, unfortunately they have not been able to achieve the main purpose of the big spendings, they still have not been able to win the champions league so this is a major issue the club will expecting the manager to solve at the club. They have the players but yet have not been able to achieve this for the club.
That's it. You can compare between bayern and PSG about how much the club was worthy with money and there will be a huge gap between PSG and barcelona yet become the king of EU is about how good your team work to beat another club. it's not about how many great players in your club. If those clubs can't have a good work and then it will have the same result as PSG.
PSG itself may be blamed by its fans if it will not able to take the champion league for this year.

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January 02, 2023, 11:20:27 PM
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It is really not easy to be confident about anything as for the Liverpool - Real Madrid matchup.

Liverpool are favoured according to the odds for now. But there is no clear favourite in this. Both teams have the strength to eliminate each other. I mean that I know Liverpool's condition in the English Premier League. But they aren't the same in the Champions League. Despite the bad start against Napoli they performed great later on. Real Madrid are already well-known by their great successes here. They are in good shape as well. I expect a competitive matchup here.
With the current form of Liverpool in English premier league I think Liverpool is not strong enough to defeat Real Madrid.  Liverpool has been having problems in their performance.  I don't think their performance in the game they will be playing against Real Madrid will like how it used to be in previous season.
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January 02, 2023, 11:47:19 PM
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PSG have spent so much money to build the team up to the level it is at the moment with the aim of challenging for not just the League trophy but European trophies too, unfortunately they have not been able to achieve the main purpose of the big spendings, they still have not been able to win the champions league so this is a major issue the club will expecting the manager to solve at the club. They have the players but yet have not been able to achieve this for the club.
The target of PSG is to win the Champions League but it has not been easy for them. The champions is the hardest League one can ever think of to win. PSG have made me understand is not about best players in a team to win the Champions league,  sometimes winning the Champions league comes by luck. Real Madrid were able to achieve it without having much big stars players.
Real Madrid won by luck and without big stars there? You're kidding on this one. I think seeing them beat PSG, Manchester City, Chelsea and Liverpool last season people's views on Madrid will be different but still some say it's luck hmm.
Even though there is no luck several times at once we should be aware of this.
people saying it's was just luck that won them the Champions League are just delusional, if their favorite team did what Real Madrid did last season they will put luck as the last thing that got them the trophy, Real Madrid earned that trophy, and nothing can take that away from them, we can say that it was just luck about any club who won a trophy, luck plays a role sometimes but throughout the whole tournament they put in hard work and earned every achievement.

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Bayern Munich will also do everything they can when playing in the Champions League, because Bayern Munich is not a team that just stays silent when they have to compete in the Champions League. Especially if Bayern Munich has to face PSG which is very famous for its many star players in the team, but that doesn't mean PSG can win easily in the Champions League because every team that is already in the Champions League will definitely do everything they can to win the match.
Two teams are equally great. It's hard to guess the victory. But I think the first game in Paris will be in their favor and maybe PSG will win by a one-goal difference. Star Players will not be a guarantee of victory. Bayern are favourites, PSG have stars. But I sometimes have doubts about the fighting spirit of the PSG players. They sometimes don't have that. Even today they lost to Lens 3-1. That's proof star players are not a guarantee of victory. It was their first defeat in the League.
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It is really not easy to be confident about anything as for the Liverpool - Real Madrid matchup.

Liverpool are favoured according to the odds for now. But there is no clear favourite in this. Both teams have the strength to eliminate each other. I mean that I know Liverpool's condition in the English Premier League. But they aren't the same in the Champions League. Despite the bad start against Napoli they performed great later on. Real Madrid are already well-known by their great successes here. They are in good shape as well. I expect a competitive matchup here.
With the current form of Liverpool in English premier league I think Liverpool is not strong enough to defeat Real Madrid.  Liverpool has been having problems in their performance.  I don't think their performance in the game they will be playing against Real Madrid will like how it used to be in previous season.
There will be so many things to happen just like liverpool will have codygakpo as a new player that will enter into the team very soon. It's still too long to know that if liverpool will not able to defeat madrid. Madrid can the advantage from the inconsistent performance that has been showing by liverpool. The only problem is whether liverpool will be going into the better form once cody gakpo will be joining in the squad.
This question is a hard question to be answered. I saw that benzema has been actively playing again with real madrid and it seems like that benzema has fully recovered from his injury.
that's gonna become the worst dream for liverpool as the best striker for last year has been coming back again to the field. Benzema gonna be a very dangerous player that may make liverpool out from UCL

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January 03, 2023, 03:56:04 AM
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There will be so many things to happen just like liverpool will have codygakpo as a new player that will enter into the team very soon. It's still too long to know that if liverpool will not able to defeat madrid. Madrid can the advantage from the inconsistent performance that has been showing by liverpool. The only problem is whether liverpool will be going into the better form once cody gakpo will be joining in the squad.
This question is a hard question to be answered. I saw that benzema has been actively playing again with real madrid and it seems like that benzema has fully recovered from his injury.
that's gonna become the worst dream for liverpool as the best striker for last year has been coming back again to the field. Benzema gonna be a very dangerous player that may make liverpool out from UCL
Madrid with the current squad is strong enough. they don't need to make too big modifications to the squad. while Liverpool needs new energy in the team to make them stronger.
we have yet to see how Liverpool performs with their new signings. if they manage to change the game for the better. it's a threat to Madrid. but if the arrival of Gakpo requires adaptation, this is still a nightmare for Liverpool when they have to face Madrid to repeat the previous final match.



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January 03, 2023, 04:00:00 AM
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It is really not easy to be confident about anything as for the Liverpool - Real Madrid matchup.

Liverpool are favoured according to the odds for now. But there is no clear favourite in this. Both teams have the strength to eliminate each other. I mean that I know Liverpool's condition in the English Premier League. But they aren't the same in the Champions League. Despite the bad start against Napoli they performed great later on. Real Madrid are already well-known by their great successes here. They are in good shape as well. I expect a competitive matchup here.
With the current form of Liverpool in English premier league I think Liverpool is not strong enough to defeat Real Madrid.  Liverpool has been having problems in their performance.  I don't think their performance in the game they will be playing against Real Madrid will like how it used to be in previous season.
There will be so many things to happen just like liverpool will have codygakpo as a new player that will enter into the team very soon. It's still too long to know that if liverpool will not able to defeat madrid. Madrid can the advantage from the inconsistent performance that has been showing by liverpool. The only problem is whether liverpool will be going into the better form once cody gakpo will be joining in the squad.
This question is a hard question to be answered. I saw that benzema has been actively playing again with real madrid and it seems like that benzema has fully recovered from his injury.
that's gonna become the worst dream for liverpool as the best striker for last year has been coming back again to the field. Benzema gonna be a very dangerous player that may make liverpool out from UCL

@X-ray the current Liverpool team is short on confidence and Klopp has so far failed to inspire them, and if he doesn’t fix majority of the issues then they’ll not be able to be beat Madrid even with the addition of Gapko (my analysis changed after seeing Liverpool’s yesterday’s game).

Furthermore Real Madrid should dip in the transfer window and buy a player as a backup for Benzema, but if Benzema is fit then he’ll definitely cause Liverpool lots of trouble and probably score the winning goal too.
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January 03, 2023, 04:40:12 AM
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Two teams are equally great. It's hard to guess the victory. But I think the first game in Paris will be in their favor and maybe PSG will win by a one-goal difference. Star Players will not be a guarantee of victory. Bayern are favourites, PSG have stars. But I sometimes have doubts about the fighting spirit of the PSG players. They sometimes don't have that. Even today they lost to Lens 3-1. That's proof star players are not a guarantee of victory. It was their first defeat in the League.
Have you watch the matches? only Mbappe is playing on that's match, while Neymar and Messi doesn't play, which mean PSG doesn't play with their main line up/star players. I don't see why people are underestimating Lens and Marselle, both of this clubs can compete against PSG, so it's not surprising for those club could beat PSG.

PSG will humiliating Bayern Munich in the first leg since the match will held at PSG's home, while the second match PSG would be not really strong since they will play at Bayern Munich's home.
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There will be so many things to happen just like liverpool will have codygakpo as a new player that will enter into the team very soon. It's still too long to know that if liverpool will not able to defeat madrid. Madrid can the advantage from the inconsistent performance that has been showing by liverpool. The only problem is whether liverpool will be going into the better form once cody gakpo will be joining in the squad.
This question is a hard question to be answered. I saw that benzema has been actively playing again with real madrid and it seems like that benzema has fully recovered from his injury.
that's gonna become the worst dream for liverpool as the best striker for last year has been coming back again to the field. Benzema gonna be a very dangerous player that may make liverpool out from UCL
Madrid with the current squad is strong enough. they don't need to make too big modifications to the squad. while Liverpool needs new energy in the team to make them stronger.
we have yet to see how Liverpool performs with their new signings. if they manage to change the game for the better. it's a threat to Madrid. but if the arrival of Gakpo requires adaptation, this is still a nightmare for Liverpool when they have to face Madrid to repeat the previous final match.

It is meaningless to think that they can eliminate Real Madrid with a single transfer.  Gakpo is an important signing but if Liverpool beat Madrid it would be a success for the whole team.  The first game is a little while away and we'll see in February.  At Anfield, they need to get the upper hand against Madrid and go to Spain like that.  If they can't gain an advantage in the first match, it will be very difficult for them to pass the round in Spain.

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January 03, 2023, 08:39:36 AM
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Madrid with the current squad is strong enough. they don't need to make too big modifications to the squad. while Liverpool needs new energy in the team to make them stronger.
we have yet to see how Liverpool performs with their new signings. if they manage to change the game for the better. it's a threat to Madrid. but if the arrival of Gakpo requires adaptation, this is still a nightmare for Liverpool when they have to face Madrid to repeat the previous final match.
Now Real Madrid is not a club with star players, now they are very focused on the talents of young players and this has started several years ago after several of their star players started to leave Real Madrid. However, this seems to have paid off very well for Real Madrid, with many young players and a few senior players remaining, they are still very strong until now. For Liverpool, until now, nothing is certain, especially since their performance in the regular league is very bad. Darwin Nunez, who was considered to be able to solve the club's needs, seemed unable to do anything, now perhaps their only hope is Cody Gakpo, who is now ready to fill in Liverpool's attack line.

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I received confirmation today that I have tickets for that game (Real - Liverpool), I'm really excited about it.
I was planning to go to the CL final but couldn't get tickets then.

The game won't be of such importance but is one of the last opportunities to see Modrić play live. I'll try to ask a few people to arrange a meet as well Grin

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January 03, 2023, 09:17:46 AM
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It sounds as if no team can beat Real Madrid in Europe. Come on. We've heard this phrase too many times. We are also very confident that Liverpool can beat Real Madrid in the round of 16 even though most pundits say Real Madrid is too strong for Liverpool to beat.

The game of football is not like math, but what we know is that football is a sport that always emphasizes teamwork. No matter how strong the team is, there is a chance to win.
Let's say Liverpool can't get revenge in the UCL and Real Madrid go through to the next round, but we have to believe that there will be other teams that can stop their journey.
Some pretty basic things make people say Liverpool will have enough trouble beating Real Madrid. On a head to head basis, Real Madrid is still quite ahead of Liverpool, while the conditions in their respective leagues also slightly influence people in making predictions. That's why many football observers try to predict based on the results of previous matches, because this pattern is the most likely to be predicted.

But this time Liverpool have a little advantage, if they are able to take advantage of their home conditions to beat Real Madrid, because the first leg will take place at Anfield on February 22, 2023 and in my opinion Real Madrid will not qualify easily, in the semi-finals or the Champions League final this season.
We fully understand the underlying reasons why people doubt Liverpool can qualify for the next round by beating Real Madrid. In our opinion, people are looking at Liverpool's performance which is not in their best form in the Premier League which is still very difficult to win especially last night against one of the PL teams they lost 3-1 and that might fall into the category of the most basic thing you mean.

The Champions League is in no way to be confused with the domestic league. It's not just Real Madrid who are respected for the achievements they have made, Liverpool are also a respected team. But it's absurd that no team can beat Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League.

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January 03, 2023, 09:47:34 AM
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Madrid with the current squad is strong enough. they don't need to make too big modifications to the squad. while Liverpool needs new energy in the team to make them stronger.
we have yet to see how Liverpool performs with their new signings. if they manage to change the game for the better. it's a threat to Madrid. but if the arrival of Gakpo requires adaptation, this is still a nightmare for Liverpool when they have to face Madrid to repeat the previous final match.

I think that yesterday's defeat of Liverpool has shaken their self-confidence very much. Now their backlog from the top 4 is again large and even with the fact that there is still a month and a half before the game with Real, they will not have time to correct this, so this factor of pressure on Liverpool will remain. Real, on the contrary, from the first round after the restart of the season, they have adjusted their business (thanks to the fact that Barcelona lost points) and their prospects look solid.
It is interesting if the events continue to develop as they are developing now (Real shows a reliable game and Liverpool is unstable) whether the bookmakers will change their opinion that Liverpool is the favorite in this pair.

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January 03, 2023, 10:04:14 AM
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For Liverpool, until now, nothing is certain, especially since their performance in the regular league is very bad. Darwin Nunez, who was considered to be able to solve the club's needs, seemed unable to do anything, now perhaps their only hope is Cody Gakpo, who is now ready to fill in Liverpool's attack line.

Liverpool might show totally different performance from the EPL, there were many cases where a team managed to reach advanced rounds in CL while it was suffering in its local league, maybe because the nature of the competition is different. However, playing versus Real Madrid is something that no team wants to, because it's the legend of this tournament. Other teams' fans are still influenced by the last season when Real Madrid wasn't the favorable team to win nonetheless they won.

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January 03, 2023, 10:12:59 AM
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For Liverpool, until now, nothing is certain, especially since their performance in the regular league is very bad. Darwin Nunez, who was considered to be able to solve the club's needs, seemed unable to do anything, now perhaps their only hope is Cody Gakpo, who is now ready to fill in Liverpool's attack line.

Liverpool might show totally different performance from the EPL, there were many cases where a team managed to reach advanced rounds in CL while it was suffering in its local league, maybe because the nature of the competition is different. However, playing versus Real Madrid is something that no team wants to, because it's the legend of this tournament. Other teams' fans are still influenced by the last season when Real Madrid wasn't the favorable team to win nonetheless they won.

With Liverpool's performance getting worse and worse in the EPL and now their mentality will get worse when they meet Real Madrid in the last 16 of the UCL. It is not impossible for Liverpool to rise in the match later, but their opponent is Real Madrid with 14 UCL titles, of course they (Liverpool) will try hard if they want to beat Real Madrid. Since this game is taking place over 2 legs this game looks like it will be an unexpected surprise.

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January 03, 2023, 10:22:03 AM
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With Liverpool's performance getting worse and worse in the EPL and now their mentality will get worse when they meet Real Madrid in the last 16 of the UCL. It is not impossible for Liverpool to rise in the match later, but their opponent is Real Madrid with 14 UCL titles, of course they (Liverpool) will try hard if they want to beat Real Madrid. Since this game is taking place over 2 legs this game looks like it will be an unexpected surprise.
To be logic, Liverpool will have smaller chance to beat Real Madrid if their form continue to be worse and worse. They are preparing too bad for big matches with Real Madrid and they usually lose against Real Madrid even when they had good form like the past season Champions League final or another final a few years ago.

They lost some good attacking players by injuries and Darwin Nunez simply is a big disappointed expensive striker for them. In a match with Brentford, how he could miss a chance to score goal for Liverpool when the opponent goal is so opened for him?

In addition, Liverpool have another disadvantage because in Champions League, Real Madrid are always strong. The Champions League air and its traditional song likely to give Real Madrid more confidence and strength that make them harder to be beaten by any team.

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