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1741  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 155% return on investment, Pool on: November 08, 2014, 02:43:33 PM
You should definitely focus more time on studies, than wasting time like this.  This is short term, but the real world income, lasts longer.

Short term Roll Eyes Ahmm , 2+ years of online history! Did you miss that part? I have almost finished my studies, And Matter of fact is I don't like to work under some one else, I have my own ideas which are working just fine, Don't comment people if you are not interested! Giving lessons wont change anything. I am getting tired to reply to every single person!

first learn how the system works then comment if its scam or not and how have they managed to live for 2+ years? and yet there paypal balance keeps rising daily? Because they are not scams!

1 more thing, People don't invest 1 million dollar in scams! which are 2+year online and are so much transparent!
 
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1742  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 155% return on investment, Pool on: November 08, 2014, 01:16:06 PM
Is this a ponzi scheme?

155% + is it a ponzi? = run like hell !!!

I second that. Too good to be true !

Another one! Smiley Why people are so lazy these days! "Too good to be true?" They are paying from last 2 years! Just read the whole 3 pages on this thread you will see many answers! I have uploaded a video too i tried to explain everything in it.
1743  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 155% return on investment, Pool on: November 08, 2014, 07:38:49 AM
You won what? Points or money? You cant gamble money in paidverts  but only points. This makes me think you are lying!

Edit: See this before calling a scam!

http://prntscr.com/546o1j
1744  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 155% return on investment, Pool on: November 08, 2014, 07:13:57 AM
You are a member there and yet you don't know what terms you have agreed on. It can take upto 7 days for withdrawal on bitcoin, To speed up you can contact the support on mytrafficvalue they will solve it. And if you have used bots to view ads better forget the payment. Because my friends are receiving payments on average of 4 days.
1745  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 155% return on investment, Pool on: November 08, 2014, 05:23:36 AM
I understand but i am just a student right now. As far 3$ per hour is concerned it will go up, As i said the more points a person has the higher he gets paid( or higher the conversion ratio), As far as other things are concerned, I make around 6$ approx from other ptc sites too and not to mention I also do fiverr too as i have alot of free time. And 1 more thing, In my country Pakistan 20$ per day is also good enough

I made this because people invest in scams which they know will last for few days. They don't know anything about the owner of the site where the money is further invested etc. At least in this case admin or the owner of the sites is well known person in ptc industry. I doubt any of person who ran a hyip or ponzi was this popular or transparent.

Just shut the fuck up and get the fuck out of here, you lowlife scamming fuck.

Either get a real job, of if you can't just do us all a favor and kill youself.

Forum is for everyone, I don't know why are you so angry, If you understood how any of this worked you would have not been shouting, I don't know why people always apply guilty until proven innocent.

Update:
New balance after watching 8 more ads. http://prntscr.com/54637x
1746  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 155% return on investment, Pool on: November 07, 2014, 06:44:34 PM
made few edits to explain more.

I don't really understand it. It seems dodgy that you have to pay to watch ads, and I'd be careful if I was you.

I expect you'll end up getting scammed and not being able to pay your investors back but maybe not.

No you can start from zero Smiley, Just watch daily bonus ads daily and you will still get the points then those will be converted to dollar ads. The process requires alot of time if you start from zero it took me like 3+ months to get to my current stats, and many people don't do as i said and many advertisers don't have time to watch all those ads to get there money back, but they can gamble there points. So the return becomes very possible. You won't like to spend(as advertiser) like 1 hr- 1.30 mins Daily, just watching other people site so that you can earn back the money. As I said earlier there is always a risk but if you will ask any ptc investor he will always tell you it will last for a long time until something really bad happens like(hacking). As i said i will make it clear for the investors that if the company will stop paying they will lose the money, as will i.

There are some other things too, If they don't get sales the users will also not get ads to watch thus points will not be converted, They also depend on sales too. You can check there facebook owner ID he posts daily the paypal balance etc and other details.


(Update)
New balance after watching ads: http://prntscr.com/53zuzj
1747  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 155% return on investment, Pool on: November 07, 2014, 07:34:43 AM
made few edits to explain more.
1748  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 155% return on investment, Pool on: November 07, 2014, 07:28:04 AM
The minimum amount you can invest is 1$ and maximum of 20$ for now. You will get your return in few days time.

I can't tell whether you're running a scam here or not. Would you mind answering some questions?

Is there a limit on how many people you will let in?

Why do you need pool members? What do you do with all the $20's you are sent? Do they somehow let you watch more ads and make money faster?

Are you willing to have some coins held in escrow so that if this turns out to be a scam your pool members don't end up out of pocket?

Currently most people are not understanding how paidverts work, So i have got only 1 investor so far. yes there will be a limit for now i am not accepting more i will put them on waiting list as i am testing the pool if its profitable or not.

(2nd Question) Why do i need pool members?
I don't need pool members, People can join the site for thereself and invest alone, But the problem here is that when a member invests some dollars, example 1$ he gets 3100 points+ 50 views to there website. Now 1 point equals 0.0005$. Now you can't withdraw points, What there system do's is daily convert some % of those points to dollar ads which users need to watch. Each ad is 30 sec long and users get like 50-60 ads which can become a pain to watch. So it takes like 1+ month to get back the return. Thats why i made the pool i make 2$+ currently from paidverts so if someone invests 1$ alone it will take him like 1+ month to get back his 1.55$ return but if he invests through me he will get it back within 1 day. But i charge 10% for watching the ads. That is the job of the pool.

3rd Question) What  do i do with 20$ they send me? or whatever amount they send.
I purchase ads as i explained the system. Now yesterday 1 investor sent 20$ and I bought the ads from it. In return i received 62000 points. Now the advantage again here is, If he invested alone it would have taken him like 1+ month to get back his return, But as said my account makes 2$+ per day, This increases my accounts earning, So my daily earnings will become around 4-5$ per day it will take then like 8-10 days to get back his return instead of 1+month and watching the ads for himself which requires alot of hard work Cheesy. As i said i charge 10% for this.

4th Question)Do they somehow let you watch more ads and make money faster?
For this to understand properly, Open this picture, http://prntscr.com/53ufpk
This is also available here: https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/forum/news/6th_november_daily_news.html

Open the link or the pic and see where it says "BAP Group". You can see next to it the "Percent" This percent means how much of total points are daily converted to dollar ads. The Higher the group the higher the earnings But to deplete full points it still requires 1+ month. As points are consumed the group degrades.

Now I had 72K Points(BAP) before the investor made a 20$ investment i was in group 4 and was making 2$-3$ per day, Now i am in group 5, My earnings will increase to 4$-5$ per day. Which means in simple words. If the investor made his own account it would have taken his 62K points to deplete in 1+ months time but investing in the pool he will get back his return alot faster but on 10% charge of the pool.

For the last question.
There is always a risk, I have put my money on the risk too, But the risk involved is very low, why? They own 2 casinos! They are online for 2+ years, Many people don't have time to watch the ads and get back return, They have other advertising options too, So the return becomes very possible if you do the math.
As i said this is also a testing phase i will see whether i shall continue or not. They can calculate the risk factor and invest no one is forcing them to invest.
1749  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 155% return on investment, Pool on: November 07, 2014, 05:29:42 AM
bump!+ update.
1750  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★★ WE NEED BETATESTERS FOR SOCCERGUN.COM ★★ FREEROLLS ★★ FREE BITCOINS on: November 06, 2014, 03:47:51 PM
It is fun game, very easy. and you must be lucky to stop other player Smiley
1751  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 155% return on investment, Pool on: November 06, 2014, 01:58:08 PM
update got 1st investor Smiley
1752  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 155% return on investment, Pool on: November 06, 2014, 05:59:55 AM
TARDS THIS IS A PONZI. IF YOU BUY INTO THIS I WILL COME OVER TO YOUR MOMS BASEMENT WHERE YOU WORK AND SLAP THE DICKS OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.

That is a PROMISE.

I will wait like 50 years for that, Better not die in that time Smiley
1753  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 155% return on investment, Pool on: November 05, 2014, 04:28:20 PM
update
1754  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 155% return on investment, Pool on: November 05, 2014, 04:01:22 PM
why will the site fail! People are not getting this correctly. They own 2 casinos They make tons of profit and 155% over 1+ months timeframe is possible.

As for escrow, What should i escrow. Its always a gamble any thing you do. but you can calculate your chances Smiley.  As i mentioned earlier they have other advertising options too, and ads are pain in the ass to watch, Many people dont watch ads and they lose money that way too. The plan becomes very possible if you do the math.
1755  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 155% return on investment, Pool on: November 05, 2014, 08:19:27 AM
I don't think its a ponzi but the 155% return seems far fetched. Especially in this market.

Doesn't look very profitable. But good attempt none the less.

31$ return on 20$ investment within 1 week sounds good to me. What are you expecting for a real site to work on? The real stuff doesn't offers high returns and requires alot of effort.
1756  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 155% return on investment, Pool on: November 05, 2014, 07:29:00 AM
This is definitely a Ponzi.

Do not invest.


Tried it and it's a pretty crappy business, but doesn't seems to be a classical ponzi. Basically they "encourage" users to buy some sort of advertisement points what they can use for "buying" more valuable ads. You can get some ad points by clicking some special ads but that's not enough for anything else than the least profitable stuff. So I guess most ppl who don't want to invest will keep viewing ads for a few days but will leave before reaching the payout limit. Pretty effective way to get free views Smiley.

Exactly, And those points can be gambled away in the games, And many people dont spend 1-2 hours watching ads, So they lose the points after 18 hours and the site wins! Few users watch the ads and they make the profit. But as i said the conversion of points to dollar is a tough job and it takes like 1 month and few days just to make the Break even point. Thats why i made the pool so that people could invest small amounts with me and get return in 1-2 weeks time.
1757  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 155% return on investment, Pool on: November 04, 2014, 05:37:01 PM
check the some ads i posted.
1758  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 155% return on investment, Pool on: November 04, 2014, 04:09:56 PM
I think this one is a scam.. I read something about PONZI SCHEME. Whats the word?

Another one! People now aday can't even do a research! What has this world come to.
1759  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 155% return on investment, Pool on: November 04, 2014, 12:21:55 PM
What i have seen so far is no one understands the sites and start shouting scam!, ponzies, Hyips! Pyramid schemes! When they have not even visited the site.
1760  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 155% return on investment, Pool on: November 04, 2014, 10:29:38 AM
IMO processing payments for 2 days is a red flag for me. pending withdrawal is $5, just for $5 its taking them too long to be processed

My friend got payed in 4 days. They say the payment can take upto 7 days. You should read the terms. It is because paypal takes time to clear their funds. You can see the news, the admin usually post the account pics.
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