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101  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: April 10, 2024, 11:27:14 AM
I said it that Inter Milan will struggle in this encounter against Udinese and it happened, for a long time I have never seen Inter to be this desperate to score a goal to get a win against a team that's not among the top 6 teams on the log, it shows that these guys are getting tired but they're not letting it bring them down. If Udinese have been playing the way they did tonight I believe they won't have been where they're now on the table, I couldn't believe that they almost had a second goal in the second half but luck wasn't on their side and Inter Milan didn't give them that time to spend with the ball especially when Alexis Sanchez was introduced things became hard for the home side, well is a good win and congrats to Inter.
If Udinese did not make many mistakes in passing the ball then Inter Milan would actually have difficulty dominating the game. It's just that the Udinese players lost control of the ball too easily in this match. But yes, you are right that Udinese also played well by creating a defense that was difficult to penetrate. And made it difficult for Inter Milan to score goals. And this match almost ended in a draw. If Davide Frattesi does not score a goal in the added minute of time, Inter Milan will only get 1 point. Luckily, Frattesi scored a goal in the final minute of the match which made Inter Milan get full points. This result is actually in line with what we expected. Because after all, Inter Milan is far superior to Udinese. It's just that Udinese made a good defense in this match and made Inter Milan almost unable to score a goal.

They tried their best to level up with Inter but you know that they're one of the lost teams (called them that because they have been in the first division for long but still not to show for it) in the Serie A. Inter Milan defense wasn't strong enough to say they're good and hard to penetrate, the league leaders played like it's a friendly game but when they saw how serious the home side was they (Inter) became serious.
At some time I thought the game was going to end in a draw but they became more aggressive and added more pressure to get the winner, and if Udinese play the way they did against Inter Milan in their next game i believe they'd win, so I'll say let Udinese continue fighting to get more points.
Inter, the league leaders, secured all three points with a last-minute winning goal against Serie A strugglers Udinese. Udinese currently sits in 14th place, while Inter holds the top spot. This highlights the difference in their positions, but Udinese showed energetic body language against Inter, which is commendable. Udinese made efforts to level up with Inter, but Inter proved unstoppable. Inter survived with the last-minute winner, and watching the drama of a late winner is always exciting. Inter is now just 2 wins away from securing the Scudetto. Congrats them in advance.

In as much as they have like 2 games to be crowned champions I still feel that they were looking down on their opponent (Udinese) that's why it was hard to beat them that easy and it reminded me of when they played Atletico Madrid in the second leg of the champions league, they underrated them and they (Inter Milan) paid the price of being kicked out of the champions league.
On their way to be crowned champions I feel they're going to be delayed just like it happened to Napoli last campaign where they had to draw a game and they waited for a week to accomplish their goal. Inter Milan can't wait to get hold of that trophy and from how things are going judging by how they played their last game I think they might draw or lose their next game to delay it a little bit more.
102  Other / Meta / Re: Is gambling problem or anything related to addiction is an off-topic? on: April 09, 2024, 10:51:41 PM
I think the mod have a reason for doing so and if you check properly you'd notice that there are many threads that all mean the same thing but the topic is different, is like it repeats itself in different form, mods have to act fast before we start seeing same thread in the same section.
We do have a thread for EPL discussion that have been there for long but someone opened same EPL thread in the same section and I was thinking if is suppose to be so. I don't know if some members who knows that this thread is there and they go ahead to open another just get followers 🤔, I don't know if that's their aim.
103  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Now dollar is #1,400/Naira. Will the prices of food items and commodity reduce? on: April 09, 2024, 10:35:56 PM
Naija we no wan carry last for anything and e be like say nah play play contri we dey inside, no matter how dollar come down reach make we no forget say for this contri anything wey go up it takes the special grace of God for that thing to come down. OP no happy too much becos even if dollar against naira drop to the lowest things fit remain as e be, bcos them talk am before say no gree for any body and nobody wan lose.
Like this all of us I mean the market sellers too we be politicians bcos we wan use every means to gain but we forget say nah still we the citizens dy suffer am.
104  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: April 09, 2024, 08:03:16 PM
Many bookmakers are betting on Arsenal to win, but Bayern Munich is not the kind of opponent to give away victory easily. Moreover, the Gunners advanced to the quarter-finals thanks to luck in a penalty shootout in the round of 16. I think the game will be evenly matched, and there won't be a winner today. I expect a goalless draw from the Arsenal versus Bayern game.

Arsenal are going to take this game personal and I'd say never to look at what the bookie are giving, fine Arsenal are in form than the Bayern Munich side but something different might happen in that game. Bayern have been pretty poor in terms of scoring and winning, it show that they can't hold on to a lead till the end of the game.
At this point I'd say Arsenal can't wait to feed their opponent what they have been fed in past and this is another opportunity to take revenge but they shouldn't underrate their opponent because they can come with something shocking for the Gunners and Arteta should remember that this is not Porto but one of the deadliest team in the history of UCL so Arteta should be careful with how they play the counter and forgetting their defense.

The fact that bookies changed the Arsenal odd from near 1.7 to over 1.9 and lowered Bayern Munchen odd from 5 to near 3.5 means that the bookies have reflected and are now not as sure as they were for an Arsenal win.Personally I have bet on Arsenal to win the game as they are in top form in the Premier League which is not some easy task to achieve and they are also leading there,I am not worried about the game with Porto performance as Bayern is a different opponent.

By the change of odds I always believe they (Bookies) might have gotten something but let's say it is either one or two players are not that fit to start to boost the force of Arsenal to win or something.
Arsenal are losing at half time by a goal to 2 and I can't understand why we get to see same errors from Arsenal's goalkeeper and the defender. Arteta might regret if he loses this game because I see the Gunners feeling much flexible in the beginning of first 10 minutes before the goal came in by Saka and after that I some how see the goal scorer (Saka) playing as if he's afraid of forcing the ball.
I don't see Bayern dominating the game to the end, I think if Arsenal approach their opponent (Bayern) just like they did with Manchester City I believe they can get an equalizer and probably win the game.
105  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: April 09, 2024, 02:33:16 PM
Many bookmakers are betting on Arsenal to win, but Bayern Munich is not the kind of opponent to give away victory easily. Moreover, the Gunners advanced to the quarter-finals thanks to luck in a penalty shootout in the round of 16. I think the game will be evenly matched, and there won't be a winner today. I expect a goalless draw from the Arsenal versus Bayern game.

Arsenal are going to take this game personal and I'd say never to look at what the bookie are giving, fine Arsenal are in form than the Bayern Munich side but something different might happen in that game. Bayern have been pretty poor in terms of scoring and winning, it show that they can't hold on to a lead till the end of the game.
At this point I'd say Arsenal can't wait to feed their opponent what they have been fed in past and this is another opportunity to take revenge but they shouldn't underrate their opponent because they can come with something shocking for the Gunners and Arteta should remember that this is not Porto but one of the deadliest team in the history of UCL so Arteta should be careful with how they play the counter and forgetting their defense.
106  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: April 09, 2024, 02:17:35 PM
I said it that Inter Milan will struggle in this encounter against Udinese and it happened, for a long time I have never seen Inter to be this desperate to score a goal to get a win against a team that's not among the top 6 teams on the log, it shows that these guys are getting tired but they're not letting it bring them down. If Udinese have been playing the way they did tonight I believe they won't have been where they're now on the table, I couldn't believe that they almost had a second goal in the second half but luck wasn't on their side and Inter Milan didn't give them that time to spend with the ball especially when Alexis Sanchez was introduced things became hard for the home side, well is a good win and congrats to Inter.
If Udinese did not make many mistakes in passing the ball then Inter Milan would actually have difficulty dominating the game. It's just that the Udinese players lost control of the ball too easily in this match. But yes, you are right that Udinese also played well by creating a defense that was difficult to penetrate. And made it difficult for Inter Milan to score goals. And this match almost ended in a draw. If Davide Frattesi does not score a goal in the added minute of time, Inter Milan will only get 1 point. Luckily, Frattesi scored a goal in the final minute of the match which made Inter Milan get full points. This result is actually in line with what we expected. Because after all, Inter Milan is far superior to Udinese. It's just that Udinese made a good defense in this match and made Inter Milan almost unable to score a goal.

They tried their best to level up with Inter but you know that they're one of the lost teams (called them that because they have been in the first division for long but still not to show for it) in the Serie A. Inter Milan defense wasn't strong enough to say they're good and hard to penetrate, the league leaders played like it's a friendly game but when they saw how serious the home side was they (Inter) became serious.
At some time I thought the game was going to end in a draw but they became more aggressive and added more pressure to get the winner, and if Udinese play the way they did against Inter Milan in their next game i believe they'd win, so I'll say let Udinese continue fighting to get more points.
107  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: April 08, 2024, 10:29:47 PM
I said it that Inter Milan will struggle in this encounter against Udinese and it happened, for a long time I have never seen Inter to be this desperate to score a goal to get a win against a team that's not among the top 6 teams on the log, it shows that these guys are getting tired but they're not letting it bring them down. If Udinese have been playing the way they did tonight I believe they won't have been where they're now on the table, I couldn't believe that they almost had a second goal in the second half but luck wasn't on their side and Inter Milan didn't give them that time to spend with the ball especially when Alexis Sanchez was introduced things became hard for the home side, well is a good win and congrats to Inter.
108  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Tips for Bitcointalk Newcomers on: April 08, 2024, 05:40:15 PM
OP nice advise but it seems you haven't been active on the Forum and you came out from nowhere and you start giving someone advise on how to go about business in the Forum? Seems like you have been taking lectures offline while those who are online (I mean the newbies) still don't get it how things are done on the Forum, brother what are we not getting?😁
To me I'd say you know more than many newbies on the Forum and the community is not that new to you, since 2020 you went off and all these while you have been watch all of us without being active, hmm, well you're welcome back Sir.
109  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: April 08, 2024, 05:03:07 PM
Inter are still in a good shape since they were kicked out of the champions league it seems it happened for their own good and they have to give full attention to the league without expecting any game outside the Italian league.
So much concentration on how to continuously extending the point gap on the log and tonight they (Inter) would be visiting the Bluenergy Stadium the home of Udinese.
We know how stubborn the home side are whenever they meet the bigger teams but I don't think it would be a problem for the visitors because the home side haven't been in good form and they're also not consistent. I'd say is going to be an easy win for Inter no matter what because Inter don't look like a team that wants to lose any game especially when they know how bad their opponent is.
It was very unfortunate when Inter Milan had to be eliminated from the Champions League, because at the start they were favorites when they faced Atletico Madrid and were able to win in the first leg. However, in the second leg, Atletico Madrid were able to respond and turn things around through a penalty shootout, which must have been very disappointing for them, because the opportunity that was before their eyes to advance to the quarter-finals had just vanished.

IN Serie A they are very good and they are preparing to win the Scudetto this season. At least this title can cure their failure in the Champions League this season. After previously being able to reach the final even though their performance was no better than this season, this season they have to go home early. I think last season they were very lucky because they were able to be in the final, and they got that advantage when they faced clubs from the same league, namely AC Milan and Napoli. Next season they can try again and I hope they can get better results than this season.

Talking about the champions league, to me they were too comfortable after taking the lead and I'd say they underrated  ATM on the return leg. I saw them as a team to get to the semis but things went out of hands. If they had used this same form to play last season I believe they would've beaten Manchester City in the finals, this is their best form they're compared to last season.
The Serie A is some how important to them than the champions league for now and I can tell you for free that next season these guys (Inter) would come with so much fire power than they did this season in the champions league. Teams like City Bayern and even Madrid would not be fit to play against the newly crowned champions of the Italian league (Inter).
110  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: April 08, 2024, 01:42:02 PM
Inter are still in a good shape since they were kicked out of the champions league it seems it happened for their own good and they have to give full attention to the league without expecting any game outside the Italian league.
So much concentration on how to continuously extending the point gap on the log and tonight they (Inter) would be visiting the Bluenergy Stadium the home of Udinese.
We know how stubborn the home side are whenever they meet the bigger teams but I don't think it would be a problem for the visitors because the home side haven't been in good form and they're also not consistent. I'd say is going to be an easy win for Inter no matter what because Inter don't look like a team that wants to lose any game especially when they know how bad their opponent is.
111  Economy / Speculation / Re: another ATH , 71k and still climbing. on: April 08, 2024, 01:26:34 PM
Since we're in a new month is it that we're going to see a new ATH, since the previous month went off with Bitcoin price dropping so fast that it seems like it will get back to $40k? I kinda feel like the delay we had last month will turn out to be in our favor, talking about holders, investors and traders as the case maybe.
In as much as we have the figures dropping very fast without going back up (last month), I feel this time we might be seeing something different, something higher than the previous ATH not $71k or $73k, let's say $80k to $85k+, who knows what the market price have for us this time around.
The price of bitcoin dropped because there was news of other effects that affected it but bitcoin never returned that low to $40K even though we considered going to $40K as a base price but fortunately $60K was still high even though it was the best price to buy.

Different from the current month because the halving will fall in this month just waiting for a few more days, my opinion is that the price will not move significantly it will definitely sideways in a few months before jumping back to $ 80K obviously this is not the right prediction the same thing where BTC is approved the price does not just go up immediately.

I think since we're expecting the halving this month that's why the price of Bitcoin came back to it's normal sense, for sometime now we have been seeing the market price at $60k to $69k, so it has been going until today (if I'm not mistaken) it got back to where it was before which is $72k and I'm some how expecting it to get past the current price to maybe $75k or more before the week runs out.
112  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: April 07, 2024, 12:37:56 PM
Manchester City got a comfortable win against Crystal Palace

Manchester City secured an amazing away victory over Crystal Palace. Manchester City are in good form this season, when Crystal Palace scored the first goal, I knew it wouldn't be hard for Manchester City to come back because they couldn't lose to 14th place Crystal Palace, however, Manchester City couldn't keep a clean sheet against Palace, they conceded two goals.

Crystal Palace scored the first goal which I thought would make Man City struggle to get the ball but it got the Citizens on their feet, if Palace was a better side it would have been very difficult for Manchester City to start scoring and when the game was coming to an end that was when the 14th placed Crystal Palace started playing like their life depends on it.
These guys (Crystal Palace) are suppose to be at the bottom like where we have Sheffield UTD on the table, they have better players but to get things done is a problem and I won't say City are in good form, this is the worse I have seen from the Citizens, this season they haven't been like the City that won the EPL and UCL, is been pretty hard for them.
113  Economy / Speculation / Re: 100 Push-Ups A Day Until Bitcoin Is $100K Challenge on: April 07, 2024, 12:15:48 PM
This threat is the most appropriate for discussion, as it is here that the physical awareness of Bitcoin growth can be realized from here. The more push ups here, the better and stronger it will be, and as the price of Bitcoin rises, more push ups will compete.


At first it was working when this push up challenge started and it was boosting Bitcoin price, it also got it to a new ATH but after sometime things went up side down. Bitcoin price went to a different path but I believe with time things would come back to normal and we're going to get back that positive movement of Bitcoin, but first thing first, let's continue the push up to fire up the speed.
114  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: April 07, 2024, 04:08:49 AM
Manchester City got a comfortable win against Crystal Palace and same happened to the Gunners who found their way to the top of the table with a clean sheet, with the Citizens still hanging on to have their chances of some how getting to the top, while Liverpool are visiting Old Trafford to see if they could get something out of that encounter.
These winnings from Manchester City and Arsenal in early matches this week put pressure on Liverpool. Playing after two competitors and especially after these competitors won their matches, is not easy. It's big challenge for Liverpool and big test for their mentality especially their opponent will be Manchester United.

United don't have good form recently and they lost two latest matches with broken defense in late of these matches. This weak defense system and weak mentality make Manchester United look to be weak in a coming match with Liverpool. However as a big club, they can bounce and make a surprise in match against Liverpool.

I still believe in Liverpool to be a winner after final whistle but I see Manchester United still have small chance to make a shock and it depends on Ten Hag's approach in tactics for the clash.

To be frank with you this Liverpool side can't concentrate knowing that they're playing against a team that's not coordinated for better part of this campaign, which means this game UTD will take it seriously.
Talking about their defense, I believe that ETH doesn't have a clue on how to get his best centre-back even if he was a defender in his playing days, imagine against Chelsea ETH played 3 defenders in one position in the same game, that's crazy, he doesn't know how to use his sub to kill a game he's winning, can't believe that.
Everything about Man UTD is filled with unnecessary errors starting from the coach down to the players, when the players seem to be playing well and you give them that little praise you'd see them showing their true colors.
Today's game Man UTD have the advantage and the only way they can win is to score first because Liverpool are coming out with 40% of pressure in them and if eventually Manchester United get an early goal the pressure would increase to 95%, so Liverpool can't concentrate, that's how it has to be for United to win this game after all home advantage applies, they should not allow Liverpool to lead the game in any way.
115  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Power Or Money ? on: April 07, 2024, 03:48:19 AM
Money and power are similar things that moved together money is what you earn from working or selling things while on the other hand I will say power is been achieved by money as a legal tender it is well noted that with money orders can be passed and the job will be done this might also be seen as the work of powere but it is the money that generates the power

What we need to know is, without money the power you feel you have is useless, you need both to balance the equation. If you use both (money and power) in a political way you'd see how strong both are together but without one the other can't function. Lets say if you have money without power you can't challenge someone who has money and power, the money alone controls the power and makes it stronger so you that have only money you can't enforce it on anybody or anything just like how someone with money and power will.
116  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The governments are conscienceless on: April 07, 2024, 03:33:47 AM
They don’t care about us, all they want to do is line their pockets at our expense. There is so much corruption in governments, they don’t care whether most of us live or die. The sooner most of us realise that the better.

I don't think you should blame the government if they seem to be greedy and selfish or not keeping to their words, all these things had to do with more money and if they get elected to whatever position they'd look for a way to recover those money they spent during the campaign and it creates an avenue to start stealing from the poor to fill their pocket, deeping their hands where they shouldn't.
This act of taking more without remembering the people who voted them is just the blindness of money, they tend to forget the promises they spit on the ears of the citizens, is like there's a force behind anything politics that make them all to forget what they "had in mind" to do or promise.
117  Economy / Speculation / Re: 100 Push-Ups A Day Until Bitcoin Is $100K Challenge on: April 07, 2024, 03:17:42 AM
we move brother.

Sure.. we can talk about how we feel or not.. We can talk about where we believe the BTC prices to be going or not.. and we can also talk about push ups and other activities related to health and well-being... no problem.. This thread seems to allow for quite a bit of flexibility, yet maybe not as much flexibility as the WO thread.. .. anyone getting mad yet?  Well, go do your pushups then soldier, (hopefully you get in at least 100 for the day), and stop complaining!!!!!  #myrecommendation   Tongue

You're right, this thread very much flexible and I like it how we take things on this thread thanks to the OP for including discussion about Bitcoin and keeping fit, it made many of us to keep our body in shape, I believe nobody is going to complain of any crazy health challenges.
Hell no brother, I'm not complaining at all, infact I'm working on my fist to punch a free passage for Bitcoin to get to a new pice, is just you who's finding it difficult to see the positive side of others, well that's on you. And I'd take your advise to continue my push up and I'm hoping to see BTC rise again and you go do your push up, seems your slacking behind 😁.
118  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: April 07, 2024, 02:46:36 AM
Manchester City got a comfortable win against Crystal Palace and same happened to the Gunners who found their way to the top of the table with a clean sheet, with the Citizens still hanging on to have their chances of some how getting to the top, while Liverpool are visiting Old Trafford to see if they could get something out of that encounter.
We all know how these two (Liverpool and Manchester United) went head to head in the league cup which the Red Devils knocked Liverpool out and this time around is a different story that need to be written, the visitors won't take it easy on the host and they're coming with a lot of fire power.
Old Trafford has never been a fortress, any team can go there and mess up the place expect the day UTD are ready to get a point. After losing to Chelsea 4-3 I believe Man UTD might make it hard for Liverpool and it won't be a nice one for Klopp if he doesn't get a win in this encounter, a draw won't get Liverpool on top so I feel things might get messy for the visitors because this is the type of game I see UTD playing with everything they have got to prove a point and they (Man UTD) need a win to keep that champions league spot alive, it's either a draw or a win for UTD.
119  Economy / Speculation / Re: 100 Push-Ups A Day Until Bitcoin Is $100K Challenge on: April 06, 2024, 08:32:56 PM
Of course, I have been playing along with your little funzies, yet for sure, I have noticed quite a few of your posts in recent times, and surely you seem to be lacking in terms of your long term commitment to BTC, including that you seem to be wanting to shave off some profits rather than continuously buying BTC and/or taking advantage of BTC price dips.

So, I get the sense that you are not even close to a point of over-accumulation but instead you are wanting to sell BTC to be able to buy back cheaper, which is not a good way of thinking about BTC and it is likely going to continue to contribute to your own stress based on your lack of an approach to BTC that focuses further into the future.

You are ONLY able to help yourself in regards to the extent that you are able to figure out some long term approach to bitcoin rather than getting worried about short term price moves and probably your desire to shave some BTC off (and perhaps all (or too much) of your BTC holdings) so that you can buy more back cheaper (which may or may not end up working out).  

You have been registered on the forum for almost a year and a half.. but you probably need to just continue to figure out ways to accumulate BTC and don't get so worried about BTC price and/or points in which you can sell some of your holdings, and perhaps after 10-15 years or longer, you will start to feel that you really have ended up building a lot of options for yourself with both the amount that you put into BTC and its likely appreciation during the time of your building your holdings of it..

Of course, there are no guarantees in whatever we do, but each of us needs to figure out some kind of a strategy that allows us to actually benefit from BTC rather than fucking around with trying to trade the best asset known to man and widely available to anyone who is able to recognize, appreciate and adequately build their own BTC stash to improve their own life during this seemingly ongoing greatest transfer of wealth in history and preference to be on the receiving side of such wealth transfer rather than either being disconnected or even ending up on the giving side or it.

Well is up to you to think whatever you feel about me on how I feel about BTC, if I wish to sell or buy at cheaper rate it doesn't really matter, the thing is you have been assuming and it feels like you think I don't appreciate Bitcoin the way it is, the way I feel about BTC and how I do my thing is all about me and I rather learn to improve many things about how I picture BTC other than letting criticism to hold me down.
I get your point but at the same time is not that helpful, I don't know every aspect of Bitcoin but the little I know I can add it up with the ones I learn from those who have stayed in the crypto space for long, we move brother.
120  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: April 06, 2024, 02:16:16 PM
This part of the season is just that period when we see the bigger boys struggle to beat the smaller clubs and this is their (smaller clubs) period of being stronger than they were in the first half of the season.
Crystal Palace will be hosting Man City in today's early kick off, I believe that in as much as Palace are not in a good form I think they can get something out of this encounter but mind you that the Citizens are having this hunger for goals and getting their spot at the top of the table because they know they're running out of time with Liverpool sitting at the top followed by Arsenal at 2nd position.
In this game I feel it might end in a draw or City have to lose this game to the host, Palace might be deadly just to cover up for their last game that they lost shamefully, I'd say is a 2-1 win for Palace if they're lucky enough.

I haven't seen any statistics regarding this, so I'm not sure if that's actually true that smaller clubs tend to perform better towards the end of the season, but this makes some sense.
The logic would be that at the beginning of the season, smaller clubs would play much more carefully and defensively, being primarily focused on not losing games. But at the end of the season, if such teams are placed safely above the relegation zone, they can allow themselves to play more relaxed football, have more fun out of it, and take more risks by playing more offensively, which can often pay out with surprise wins over bigger clubs.
Having a lot at stake, be it fighting for the league title or to avoid relegation could be very motivating, but could also be very stressful and harm team's performance.


When you watch more of EPL games at the end of the season you'd agree with me completely on what I said and at the beginning of the season that's when the smaller teams try to showcase what they're made of but after the 1st 5 games you'd see them dropping in performance.
This period (end of the season) the smaller teams come all out to play especially teams that are on the relegation zone, they play like a wounded lion, like they have nothing to lose which is true and that makes them difficult to defeat.
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