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1081  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 06, 2014, 06:00:02 PM
veteran poster labeling every new member "fraudster" need to cool it.  I like NEM, i have asked my friends to join NEM, they paid for it with real money, how can we be sure NEM itself is not a scam?

This tread is more than 40 pages long and half of it is filled with people complaining about other peoples stake. Nem wants to attract new people , why would a newbie join NEM if all you so called "veterans" label us newbies  "fraudster".

NEM has a very small chance of succeeding in this already flooded cryptomarket , we are all taking a punt and some have gambled more than others, that does not mean they are frauds. A lot of .04 or .05 btc will add up.

If we truly want NEM to succeed, we need to be more welcoming. Someone can just start a new coin following the same initial distribution model ( future coin Angry) then we are left with just another cheap  crypto if even that.

Veterans I don't mean to offend but rather than bickering lets welcome everyone( we need all the help we can get) and think of ways to make NEM a better coin. We need a market place where all NEM stake holders should initially put at least one tangible stuff for sale priced solely in NEM coin. If we can achieve that,we would have managed to outpace almost all these other crypto coins.

It's not about the newbies - I'm one myself. It's about people that try to get more than 2 stakes. It's supposed to be even  - everyone should get the same amount of NEM.

I think i have to do a bit of hype containment here because it could be bad publicity to NEM that we say we do things we cannot back up. It is not my goal that everyone should get the same amount of NEM. Several main developers would likely to get more than 10 dev stakes so it is apparently contradictory to say we promote "everyone has the same stakes". NEM's main goal on distribution front is to spread NEM as widely and equally as possible and to build a huge user base from the start. that's what i mean when i wrote "NEM symbolizes a great sense of fairness and egalitarianism".  To do that we have a couple of measures:

1. 1 account/ 1 stake rule
2. checking sending address aka counter sockpuppet measure
3. taint analyses to find big multi-accters

The equal shares to all (account) is a nice by product slogan of rule 1 but don't confuse that with we try to distribute NEM to every single person equally. I am still proud of what we have in distribution front as it is unparalleled so far compared to other cryptos.

If someone wants to build a more extreme version of equality coin, I would welcome that too. It is not the envy game we are playing here  Smiley

No envy - NEM goes forward.
 

Please read my view above, especially the bold part. The NEM front page is the social contract I wrote when I decided to raise money for this project and asked for developers/ helpers and I am going to honor that social contract as long as this project stays viable.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4975162#msg4975162
1082  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 06, 2014, 05:56:39 PM







Haha, Pin, good one.
1083  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 06, 2014, 05:55:27 PM
 Also, would be great to have a "setting up hallmarked node" section in the wiki, can't seem to find it.

It should be somewhere in the wiki. At least I recall translating it a few days ago.

Found it, thanks.
1084  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 06, 2014, 05:49:45 PM
Has anyone put together a guide for configuring web.xml to run a public hallmarked node?  It's been so long since I configured my web.xml.  For example, should I change the value of "myport" to 7875 if I'm using 7875 to connect to NRS?

hallmarks are in the wiki under how to

most likely no reason at all to change myport.  you should leave that as is at 7874 and can still connect to NRS on either 7874 or 7875.  myport is the p2p port the client uses

Okay, got it. thanks.
1085  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 06, 2014, 05:26:39 PM
Has anyone put together a guide for configuring web.xml to run a public hallmarked node?  It's been so long since I configured my web.xml.  For example, should I change the value of "myport" to 7875 if I'm using 7875 to connect to NRS?

Its in the wiki, but could use some updating

wow.  damn, has anyone else seen that doc page?  I dont think any other crypto has anything like that, prob cause theyre not java based lol.  that is simply AMAZING.  Will be a huge boon for future devs.

very nice work guys

which one?

http://localhost:7874/doc

Very cool, didn't even know about /doc.  Also, would be great to have a "setting up hallmarked node" section in the wiki, can't seem to find it.

1086  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 06, 2014, 05:17:31 PM
Has anyone put together a guide for configuring web.xml to run a public hallmarked node?  It's been so long since I configured my web.xml.  For example, should I change the value of "myport" to 7875 if I'm using 7875 to connect to NRS?

this you looking for?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4103726#msg4103726



Thanks, that helps,  would be great if we had a nice guide on wiki for setting up a hallmarked node.  Should I add 7875 to myport?
1087  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 06, 2014, 05:07:08 PM
Has anyone put together a guide for configuring web.xml to run a public hallmarked node?  It's been so long since I configured my web.xml.  For example, should I change the value of "myport" to 7875 if I'm using 7875 to connect to NRS?
1088  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 06, 2014, 04:39:19 PM
It seems one of BCNext plans tackles this stuff?

Yes, but he is upset that community doesn't wish to review and develop his ideas. Anon136 is the only one who does.

I think the majority of people here are interested in reviewing and developing his (BCNext) ideas, we just need a little structured guidance, this thread is so massive.

yup. same here. I am barely hanging on with hanging on.

I guess we should head over to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=364218.0 and discuss our TF ideas.
1089  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 06, 2014, 04:27:19 PM
It seems one of BCNext plans tackles this stuff?

Yes, but he is upset that community doesn't wish to review and develop his ideas. Anon136 is the only one who does.

I think the majority of people here are interested in reviewing and developing his (BCNext) ideas, we just need a little structured guidance, this thread is so massive.
1090  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 06, 2014, 04:43:17 AM

NxtChg, we want you here. Please stay. Smiley


+1

+2. Good post Zahlen. Better PM him in case he's stopped reading this thread.

+3
1091  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 06, 2014, 12:33:01 AM
http://wallet.nxtarea.com:7874/nxt?requestType=getBalance&account=11613767591090258913
http://www.nxtvote.com/view.php?vote=10667094504543355029
Someone voted the following for EvilDave -  "Yes, he is. Pure Evil thru and thru." Cheesy
Seems the count is working. Double voting from the same account should be forbidden. Smiley
It also doesn't matter if you send 1 NXT or 5 NXT or 1000 NXT for the vote. It's always counting as 1 vote, as long as it comes from 1 account with the required attributes. Smiley

So your voting system works on sending money to some accounts? Who is in control of those accounts? Who will get the those money?
Just curious. Thought the voting should be free ...

I will use the money for the /r/Nxt marketing campaign. If the community show me a better way I will implement this. Wink

I think the Nxt should go to you for building the site and maintaining, it's an awesome addition to the community.
1092  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 06, 2014, 12:29:50 AM

EVERY IDEA deserves support from the people that believe in it. Of course, if there is serious problem give constructive feedback, but let us all be gentlemen and never devolve to personal insults or threats. Thats just wrong and anybody that does it should be ashamed. We are biggest strongest community, debates are natural, even required to find best solution.

If you find yourself devolving to troll like post, relax, count to 10, delete post and say nothing or make constructive feedback. We lost a key nxt contributor yesterday and i am sad about that.  I dont want that to happen again.

Deal?

James

James, your energy is contagious, keep it up and thanks for your work!
1093  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: **** Official Ethereum QA thread **** on: February 05, 2014, 10:41:16 PM
Charles, thank you for your response!

I'm sure you all have considered this, but if it becomes necessary to block U.S. investors, it seems logical that it would be necessary to block investors in other jurisdictions as well (if those countries had similar legal framework as the U.S. and/or similar regulatory bodies like the SEC). If enough people get excluded based on what jurisdiction they live in, it seems like the development of the Ethereum ecosystem could be severely hampered.

Obviously this is all just speculative so there is no need to comment on it, but I hope the team is considering this possibility.


If investments are in BTC, how will anyone differentiate US investors to the rest of the world?
1094  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: February 05, 2014, 10:28:47 PM
No more questions will be addressed in this thread. Please refer to the Q&A thread.

I've never had one question addressed in this thread, what's new?
1095  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 05, 2014, 06:15:39 PM
Life is pain. People are always comlain anyway...
Btw, I'm almost indifferent to fee amount. I'm just provide another opinion to this thread. Just to be opposite, you know Smiley Just to see something different than "Yeah! 0.01 fee! Now!"

Yeah, I'm indifferent as well, but I promise to send you .1Nxt when the time comes.
1096  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 05, 2014, 06:06:53 PM
Fee: 1.0
Until we really have high price for 1 NXT.
Until we really have big number of transactions per block.
Until we really start to scream: "WTF, I buy one gram of blow cheap cheneese smartphone and need to pay 5% of it's price as fee!"

Exactly, my thoughts. Would also like a % of transaction's amount to be spent as fee with min 1NXT.

Reducing Nxt fee lowers incentive to forge with large Nxt account, while at the same time encouraging use of Nxt features. I like it.

Why not waiting for a month or two? Why the hurry?

Cause we need more people using Nxt, not forging for profit.
Do you think that 1 NXT fee is something that really stops people now?! C'mon, it's just few cents!

For someone who can only afford 1000 Nxt, yes.
Afford for what?
We have no services now where someone who "can only afford 1000 Nxt" can spend their coins anyway.
I mean, I not against 0.01 fee. I just want to see some real-life reason for it. Do not forget that it is kinda significant core change.

Yeah, I agree with you, but why not implement now, why wait for people to complain about it.
1097  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 05, 2014, 05:51:50 PM
Cause we need more people using Nxt, not forging for profit.

I agree.

But, come on, NXT is two months old. Don't push it too hard.

I think the concept should convince people to come and to stay not the fees. If they stay, good. If they don't because of the fees, they will leave at the slightest problem. Let's accumulate those people first and then let people in that are just here for 'yet-another-altcoin' profit.

Don't you thing we have still some time?

Yes, but it's another item off the plate, and we can move on to more important things.
1098  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 05, 2014, 05:47:32 PM
Fee: 1.0
Until we really have high price for 1 NXT.
Until we really have big number of transactions per block.
Until we really start to scream: "WTF, I buy one gram of blow cheap cheneese smartphone and need to pay 5% of it's price as fee!"

Exactly, my thoughts. Would also like a % of transaction's amount to be spent as fee with min 1NXT.

Reducing Nxt fee lowers incentive to forge with large Nxt account, while at the same time encouraging use of Nxt features. I like it.

Why not waiting for a month or two? Why the hurry?

Cause we need more people using Nxt, not forging for profit.
Do you think that 1 NXT fee is something that really stops people now?! C'mon, it's just few cents!

For someone who can only afford 1000 Nxt, yes.
1099  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 05, 2014, 05:42:51 PM
Fee: 1.0
Until we really have high price for 1 NXT.
Until we really have big number of transactions per block.
Until we really start to scream: "WTF, I buy one gram of blow cheap cheneese smartphone and need to pay 5% of it's price as fee!"

Exactly, my thoughts. Would also like a % of transaction's amount to be spent as fee with min 1NXT.

Reducing Nxt fee lowers incentive to forge with large Nxt account, while at the same time encouraging use of Nxt features. I like it.

Why not waiting for a month or two? Why the hurry?

Cause we need more people using Nxt, not forging for profit.
1100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 05, 2014, 05:29:22 PM
Fee: 1.0
Until we really have high price for 1 NXT.
Until we really have big number of transactions per block.
Until we really start to scream: "WTF, I buy one gram of blow cheap cheneese smartphone and need to pay 5% of it's price as fee!"

Exactly, my thoughts. Would also like a % of transaction's amount to be spent as fee with min 1NXT.

Reducing Nxt fee lowers incentive to forge with large Nxt account, while at the same time encouraging use of Nxt features. I like it.
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