if i dont wana trade my stake or parts of it i dont have to care for this and can wait for regular launch right?
yup.. if you dont want to use the AE then its ok.. just wait until real coins are launched and no problem. this is more just a way for small buyers to be able to buy nem if they cant afford the auction. we want to include everyone. not just those who can afford a bench mark Like people who missed the NEM boat entirely, like li'l ol' me. I think this is only for current stakeholders, no new NEM will.be available to buy. You will have to wait for the auction. Yes, but current stakeholders can sell their stake on Nxt AE to people that missed the boat.
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Only CNY and NXT have such high withdrawal fees, see https://bter.com/fee and then send them an email asking to drop fee to some reasonable level. I have one that couple of times but it will require NXT community effort (or more) for Bter people to react positively. Didn't notice that before. They probably justify because Nxt wasn't an easy copy and paste BTC clone for them to implement.
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there's a buy order on bter: 111BTC at 0.00008000 !!!! Moby Dick attacking
Old news... It was 122.5btc 12hours ago. It was bited for a moment. Afterwards price is healthy increasing. If that order ends up filled and guy decides to withdraw NXT he will realise why Bter sucks. Namely, 0.5 PERCENT + 1 NXT withdrawal fee, what a theft. The sooner we have our decentralized gateway's and AE trading, the better.
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Sianotes did pretty good on their pre-IPO tokens on Nxt AE. Why not try it? It will be a place for people to trade NEM in the future any way.
Sia reached their goal in about 2 days on Nxt AE. I would love to see NEM shares on Nxt AE. I'd buy some and it helps those that missed out get a share. I should make it clearer that current stakeholders could be issued the tokens on demand, but it is not for selling more NEM shares. Technically it is a temporary transfer NEm stake ownership from my Google sheet to Nxt asset exchange. Would it be against rules for a current stakeholder to acquire more NEM on Nxt AE?
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Sianotes did pretty good on their pre-IPO tokens on Nxt AE. Why not try it? It will be a place for people to trade NEM in the future any way.
Sia reached their goal in about 2 days on Nxt AE. I would love to see NEM shares on Nxt AE. I'd buy some and it helps those that missed out get a share.
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...especially since the guy who created it has run off.
Hmmm... quite similar to say.... bitcoin Bitcoin was first to market and was therefore afforded certain "snafus" if you will. NXT is in heavy competition with a ton of other 2nd gen cryptos. NXT can't afford to have the same sort of things happening. The sooner the NXT fanbois realize this the better. CurbsideProphet = Secret crush on Nxt
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How about with Nxt AE to IPO of STC?
How about convincing us this isn't a scam before selling anything on Nxt AE.
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NXT were brought for total of 21 btc between ~73 stakeholders current valuation~ 71,450 BTC (very short time later) 340238% profit for lucky few. And how many used alt-accounts to register multiple stakes? http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=34 not better distribution by any stretch of the imagination as far as I can see. As far as argument against bitcoin distribution goes. (Excluding satoshis mined stash, which for all we know will be distributed evenly in an act of charity) A huge amount of early coins from 2009- 2011 will never be touched again because the private keys are completely destroyed. Bitcoin was a new paradigm. 1-cpu one vote and anyone could join in So why didn't you invest? Was it because you knew it would have poor distribution? The creator didn't get rich off of Nxt, and it was an open IPO for two months (far longer than any IPO's held now), so stop whining about distribution, it's not the creator's fault that only 73 people decided to invest. It's such a tired argument. What was he supposed to do, he wanted to launch the coin. I bought Nxt on the open market, when it was 1Mil for 1BTC, because I saw potential. Nxt has a great community of devs that get things done, and aren't chronic whiners. I could sit here and stomp my feet about satoshi holding 1.5Mil BTC or that MT Gox blatantly ripped off everyone, but I don't because it's pointless. Anyway, stop posting here and go mine some BTC. This should be dedicated to Sia, not Nxt. I didn't invest because frankly I didn't see the thread prior to IPO closure. People keep saying it's a tired argument. It can never be a tired argument because it's like the burj khalifa of arguments. it overshadows absolutely anything else. The creator could of easily register stakes without you knowing about it. You can not build a supposed '2.0 crypto-currency' upon a POS distribution between only 21 people. It can't work it's nonsensical to even propose a currency with such an unfair distribution has a serious chance of success...it's 100x worse than what we have with fiat with fat cat oligarchs controlling huge amounts of the worlds wealth. while poor scrape for few dollars daily.. with nxt it's out of the frying pan into a blazing inferno., and this is the reason community will jump onto coins such as NEM over NXT. He could have done a # of things, so what. Speculation is just that. I think you have your #'s mixed up. 73 stakeholders, 21 BTC. Not 21 people. I understand your concern, I really do, but I bought after Nxt was launched at a valuation that was more than fair, and it even went back down after the initial spike, and stakeholders were dumping millions of Nxt for at least a month. All these IPO's disguise their profit as "distribution". Anyway, no one is changing your mind, so why argue about it, your time would be better spent being productive. And you can buy Sia without being forced to hold Nxt.
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NXT were brought for total of 21 btc between ~73 stakeholders current valuation~ 71,450 BTC (very short time later) 340238% profit for lucky few. And how many used alt-accounts to register multiple stakes? http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=34 not better distribution by any stretch of the imagination as far as I can see. As far as argument against bitcoin distribution goes. (Excluding satoshis mined stash, which for all we know will be distributed evenly in an act of charity) A huge amount of early coins from 2009- 2011 will never be touched again because the private keys are completely destroyed. Bitcoin was a new paradigm. 1-cpu one vote and anyone could join in So why didn't you invest? Was it because you knew it would have poor distribution? The creator didn't get rich off of Nxt, and it was an open IPO for two months (far longer than any IPO's held now), so stop whining about distribution, it's not the creator's fault that only 73 people decided to invest. It's such a tired argument. What was he supposed to do, he wanted to launch the coin. I bought Nxt on the open market, when it was 1Mil for 1BTC, because I saw potential. Nxt has a great community of devs that get things done, and aren't chronic whiners. I could sit here and stomp my feet about satoshi holding 1.5Mil BTC or that MT Gox blatantly ripped off everyone, but I don't because it's pointless. Anyway, stop posting here and go mine some BTC. This should be dedicated to Sia, not Nxt.
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So far, I have sold 1000 sianotes, which means 500 remain. I'll be updating the OP soon. The response has been significant and I'm very excited to have sold so many sianotes. At this point I have cashed out enough BTC for Luke and I to last the entire summer, and that doesn't even include the 1.7 million nxt. Assuming the nxt cashes out smoothly, we'll have enough to complete development!
This guy looks good for nxt=>btc escrow, but I'd feel more comfortable if other people in this thread can confirm that he's trustworthy.
Awesome news on IPO, to be honest didn't think it would go that fast, really glad to hear it was successful and you can begin development. Anon is like your grandfather, best friend, and dog wrapped into one, he is completely trustworthy.
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Link? The fact that these guys collected $3Mil and don't have a working product is absolutely beyond me. You will never attract a strong dev community without an inexpensive entry point. With any large IPO, you will have the crypto dev team, and a bunch of sock puppet cheerleaders, not much else. If I'm a dev, and buy Maidsafe at a $100Mil marketcap, I expect all development to be completed by the core team. With that said, I hope Maidsafe is successful because the idea alone is good for all crytpo.
Most of the activity occurs on Google+... https://plus.google.com/+MaidsafeNet/postsBunch of videos of core team and heavily-moderated chat responses.....cool.
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This is really awesome for Nxt.
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They actually have a very interested and active dev community...hype from the crypto side won't happen until this community starts understanding DACS and Smart Properties...which has already begun to an extent. POS is already a thing of the past...kind of... Link? The fact that these guys collected $3Mil and don't have a working product is absolutely beyond me. You will never attract a strong dev community without an inexpensive entry point. With any large IPO, you will have the crypto dev team, and a bunch of sock puppet cheerleaders, not much else. If I'm a dev, and buy Maidsafe at a $100Mil marketcap, I expect all development to be completed by the core team. With that said, I hope Maidsafe is successful because the idea alone is good for all crytpo.
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I suggest that you encourage BTC investments and then issue SiaNotes to investors. The Nxt AE is still young and you may have a hard time offloading several million Nxt at once. Would be nice to see the OP updated with total amount invested, so others can see how much of the 15% IPO is available. Excited to see the progress on development in the upcoming months.
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You should at least try to find a private buyer for the nxt, this volume is too much to dump on bter.
We're looking for a private buyer of Nxt. We'd be looking to sell somewhere between 500,000 and 2,500,000 for 0.00007 btc each.It looks like we could sell these over the course of a week on bter, but ultimately I have no idea how long it'll take to sell so many. We can absolutely do escrow for the nxt to bitcoin trade, but I don't know which escrow's are trustworthy. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345336.0;topicseen
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You are valuing your project at 1666 BTC or $733,333.00
You're not making sense... doing a couple simple calculations doesn't prove ANYTHING... if want people to give any validity whatsoever to your post... you need to restrict your comments to the 250 BTC pre-IPO goal at this stage... Yes he is, the dev is selling SiaNotes at a current market cap of $733k. Why is that wrong to state here? I know the devs and I have no doubt they are honest and capable, but I also think users here have a right to ask questions. Edit; BTW, I think listing on Nxt AE is awesome, as it will allow investors to trade SiaNotes as the project progresses. I don't see another IPO here that allows investors to trade part of their stake other than private transactions.
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Please post BTC address for direct investment.
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