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1001  Other / Meta / Re: unfair moderation, TS TOAA and all the cuntyfucks made me do this. on: February 16, 2020, 02:07:26 AM
Investigation threads are meant to be for open debate and discussion. Just because you don't agree with or don't like what I have to say about it doesn't make it "interference". That is of course unless your goal is to dish out punitive punishments motivated by personal grievances regardless of the facts, then sure, it is interference. Of course you don't have a right to abuse the forum's systems to do any of that.
Yes, about investigation, not about you coming to talk about not related things.You talking about apples in thread about oranges is deflecting thread. Moving topic into different direction. Deflecting. Interfering.
The other person would be his potential customer.
But TMAN is was potential customer!
regardless of the facts
Ok. Lets talk about (on topic) facts, can you respond with a fact and reply to my post with another on topic reply and say why posts 1 and 2 are off topic and why it is not allowed to offer 12 satoshi if price is not set and is open for discussion?
1002  Other / Meta / Re: unfair moderation, TS TOAA and all the cuntyfucks made me do this. on: February 16, 2020, 01:16:19 AM
Death threads are a federal crime. Maybe just be happy no one cares enough to pursue charges. Frankly you are both cunts, but you should be free to peddle whatever you like as long as it is legal.
I think the pheds can suck my dick down here in europe. And i think all the importance given to such matter is just pointless and even stupid.

Edit: I double fucking dare anyone to pursue charges for this.
You are idiot. Putting you on ignore.

This is the equivalent of two people having a conversation in a restaurant, and you running up and screaming into a bullhorn and calling it free speech because you don't like the fact that person is talking.
And who that imaginary second person would be? This is forum, not restaurant  Roll Eyes
He has a right to trade whatever the fuck he likes here as long as it is legal. You don't have a right to interfere with that just because you personally don't like it, or simply to entertain yourself.
That is not the question here, if you want to talk about someone interfering with other peoples threads for personal entertainment, start with yourself interfering and deflecting investigation threads.

Back to topic Some posts are likely removed because of certain things mentioned above, but how do you explain this and/or better this? Tell me one good reason why these 2 posts are off topic replies. Tell me why it is not allowed to offer 12 satoshi if price is not set and is open for discussion and what makes it something which needs to be removed?

Is there any forum rule where it says that "you are not allowed to comment in other peoples sale threads even thought OP said topic is open for discussion"?
1003  Economy / Collectibles / Re: RARE - 2oz .9999 Gold NastyFans 50 Minted Seats for possible sale on: February 15, 2020, 11:57:25 PM
Not sure, if everyone has looked at this coin that came for sale, here are some new pics and details of the transactions to the address of this coin.

Oct 8, 2019 4:01:58 PM  - 0.001018 BTC
Aug 17, 2018 8:23:40 PM - 0.0011605 BTC
May 25, 2018 5:54:30 PM - 0.0010405 BTC
Jan 27, 2018 9:39:30 PM - 0.001016 BTC
Oct 14, 2017 9:25:40 PM - 0.001025 BTC
Aug 29, 2017 7:03:15 AM - 0.0012795 BTC
Jul 17, 2017 10:48:14 PM - 0.0011845 BTC
Jun 10, 2017 7:52:46 PM - 0.002317 BTC
May 8, 2017 6:03:40 PM - 0.0037615 BTC
Apr 15, 2017 4:20:32 AM - 0.001407 BTC
Apr 9, 2017 1:39:26 AM - 0.0014785 BTC
Feb 4, 2017 9:54:06 PM - 0.001352 BTC
Jan 14, 2017 3:20:08 AM - 0.001396 BTC
Dec 16, 2016 6:05:57 PM - 0.0011035 BTC
Nov 18, 2016 10:48:49 PM - 0.0012045 BTC
Aug 12, 2016 3:45:06 PM - 0.001046 BTC
Jun 28, 2016 8:18:54 PM - 0.0012975 BTC
I didn't check it yet but that would be 17 transactions to this address.

This doesn't really match this: http://archive.is/dFH2m, check picture, it clearly says "weekly distribution". There should be ~208 transactions in 4 years, right?

Why are 191 transactions missing from this address?
1004  Other / Meta / Re: unfair moderation, TS TOAA and all the cuntyfucks made me do this. on: February 15, 2020, 10:57:31 PM
Does any of that shit look logical to you?
Timestamps: post number 1 and 2 are on topic. I don't see any reason to remove them. Well, we can discuss about posts number 3 and 4, some parts are on topic and some parts are not, and some can be viewed as NSFW(stone age, tabu, people should be polite on internet, you name it) I'll point only on topic parts:

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best word you have written, the only reason I cannot spell the beer well is due to the shitty hangover that shit wank beer gave me, the smell from the factory near the airport - almost cancer giving.

as for the coins, 20-30-40-100 years, all worth less than one of my morning shits or wanks, actually I believe I could have a wank on a sheet of paper and sell it for more than your collection, my DNA is worth more than your shitcoin collection.

how does that make you feel coño ? tu madre es una puta!

mahou was bad - the red stuff made me fuck women like your madre.

anyway - the old coins are still worth fuck all. and I can continue the insults into infinity until you are banned again

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Ok son, I eat out your mother and she was as about as pleasurable as these shitty old worthless potato coins.

honestly - no sales here


your death threats really should of been a lifetime ban, we wouldn't of had to seen cold war times coin for sale here then !

night night sunshine.

when you kiss your mum please remember my cock has deepthroated her

xxxxx
But as there is large part of off topic/NSFW "words" in these 2 posts, they are very likely removed because of it. Still, removing posts 1 and 2 is questionable.

This post is also on topic:
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Ban = ban, I’m legit as I have spent 100x what you have on collectibles. Anyway back to op I can sent you 12 satoshi on LN for these shitcoins you are offering, deal? No deal? I’ll fuck your dad again for free
Or it can be interpreted like a joke or trolling, but I personally wouldn't moderate someone's buy offer, regardless whether it is real or not.

I wonder where are all these "free speech" users now to defend TMAN!!?!!!?
1005  Other / Meta / Re: unfair moderation, TS TOAA and all the cuntyfucks made me do this. on: February 15, 2020, 09:07:20 PM
I never wanted to discuss price, I never set the price for those coins in past, anyhow now they are mine so any price provided in past for the whole bunch is history. I only provided link to what they "going for" on spanish sites and as said im open for discussion
I am very confused.

This is from your topic:
Note that I has no idea about real price of coins so it will requiere a bit of research on both sides, specialy on next batch since each coin has hidden numbers with the real year of emision which changes value, since high amount of coins it will take me a while to sort them all.
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Fella you are going to end up like that other fool who sold old worthless shit, florafucker or something. Pesetas? might as well sell some old potatoes here pal.
So how is this off topic reply/trolling/fud or whatever you claim it is? This is on topic reply, you said you don't know how much coins worth and TMAN said they are worthless. Take another look:

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A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

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You that bored? thanks for the bump tho.

Pleasure son, any others who went on a 18-30 holiday to spain or any of the islands have lots of these shitty worthless coins, these coins are worth less than one of my pubic hairs that is how fucking many of them are out there. seriously son... you should maybe offer some iberica ham or something that people want
This is on topic reply.
1006  Other / Meta / Re: Account start accusation, then nuked after it? on: February 15, 2020, 08:35:50 PM
The thread is restored.
Hm, is that a yes? I guess I will lock this thread as well.
1007  Other / Meta / Re: unfair moderation, TS TOAA and all the cuntyfucks made me do this. on: February 15, 2020, 08:21:31 PM
I appology to marlboroza since I thought you were insulting me not quoting him.
Not insulting you, I was sharing my opinion about on/off topic replies.

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The price isn't settled that's just the market and im more than open for discussion thats said in both new and old thread.

He just came and repeatedly talked about how worthless the coins are which isn't an positive opinion just trashtalking.

Also, I don't remember him mentioning anything about price, just claims that these are worthless coins.
You do realize this is contradiction? You wanting to discuss about price and TMAN telling you that they are worthless coins IS discussion about price.

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It was FUD and Trolling.

He repeated his opinion way too many times.
Is it FUD and trolling or opinion now?
1008  Economy / Reputation / Re: Spineless cowards making posts on: February 15, 2020, 07:27:03 PM
This not an accurate analogy when we are talking about signature campaigns
Ok.
Bob pays me to find one person who will dig holes. He gives me 0.01 BTC for the job. I hire you to dig hole, and I tell you that Bob wants you to dig few holes and that you will get 0.01BTC for each hole you dig. I pay you 0.01BTC for first hole and knowing I don't have any money left I let you dig another hole. After all that, I say that I don't have money to pay you for that second hole because Bob never gave me more money and you should wait for Bob to pay me.

This post was not made only because a person hid behind an account to make an accusation or speak a truth. It's not about whom they attacked/questioned.

It's a post to tell people to stand up and have a voice. There is no need to hind behind a new account.

If users have a concern or question, they should be able to voice it without fear. If we all treated each other with mutual respect this place would be so much better. We don't all have to like each other, but should respect one another.

I'm not completely innocent as far as not respecting others at all times either. I never said I was, but I will be trying to change that from now on.
"be a man" and risk that you will be ignored, probably won't receive merits in future, maybe tagged if you keep pushing something over and over again which "you" think it is true but is nothing but false conspiracy theory, probably blacklisted by several campaign managers. Hm, maybe main account is tagged, maybe someone doesn't have enough users who will agree with them so they create alt account to look like there is more agreement, maybe someone made many deals, shared info and doesn't want to risk anything using main account, maybe someone wants to express themselves but doesn't want to engage in more drama than necessary, there are many reasons to use newbie account, it is not just simple as "be a man and post from your account".
1009  Other / Meta / Re: unfair moderation, TS TOAA and all the cuntyfucks made me do this. on: February 15, 2020, 04:39:56 PM
Selecting the parts he liked about the posts then posting them here thats about what he done and you supporting him, I only entered this thread to pester that bastard.
So I should suck someone's dick because you said TMAN didn't quote everything, I don't have telepathic skills and I don't share the same opinion as you do?

Lets try different approach here:

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.
It was opinion about price of coins you are selling. I would say it is on topic. Your opinion that it was FUD means that you think it should not have been removed:

19. Possible (or real) scams and Trust ratings are not moderated (to prevent moderation abuse).

Q: Do you moderate/delete (possible) FUD, accusations and untrue information?
A: No. We don't have enough time to check every single piece of information and verify the validity of the sources. Also, just like scams - too much room for bias and abuse.

However, trolling isn't allowed. If a user is habitually posting obviously false nonsense ("obviously false nonsense" to an outsider, NOT to someone who follows or is involved in the discussion) just to stir up trouble, then it's considered trolling, which is prohibited. Such cases should be thoroughly documented in the report though (There are tons of reports that just say "trolling", but moderators don't have time to look through each user's post).

When it comes to accusations of commercial misconduct, if a user is accusing you / someone else of scamming or defrauding them in your / someone else's sales thread without providing evidence (either in the post itself or by linking to evidence elsewhere), that's considered low value and thus should be reported as such.
1010  Economy / Reputation / Re: Spineless cowards making posts on: February 15, 2020, 04:05:40 PM
It's obviously 1 of the participants right?
It can be one of participants and it can be anyone else. It can be competition. It can be someone who is tagged by Hhampuz. It can be someone who is kicked from campaign or someone who is not accepted.
I ask that the community not respond to any accusation such as this unless a person posts from their main account.
I would like to point that it is irrelevant who is making accusation as long as accusation is true and valid, that is all what matters at the end.

There are some posts somewhere in this forum of some senior members who think that managers should escrow funds to avoid situations like this one, that they share some responsibility and should pay from their pocket, just like some other senior members think that managers should not pay because it is company who should pay and if company doesn't pay managers shouldn't either.

Hypothetically if someone pays me to place advertisement on my car, I would expect them to pay me, if they say they can't pay me because company didn't pay them it is only up to me to say "it is ok, you don't have to pay me" or "I don't care, pay me from your pocket".

I think Hhampuz is great person, manager and everything and this is forum after all, users should not use it as "pay-to-post system", and if I was participant I would say "it is ok, who fucks blender, lets move on"  just like I would say for any other campaign but I also know that someone doesn't share my opinion and they do have right to ask for what they agreed on, as much as they have right to "anonymously complain".
1011  Other / Meta / Re: unfair moderation, TS TOAA and all the cuntyfucks made me do this. on: February 15, 2020, 02:20:21 PM
You go suck dick under a bridge along with all the lauda's asslickers.
I am sorry, I don't know who lauda is nor who are lauda's asslicekers. Please stay on topic.
Thats not a opinion thats FUD.
According to who? You?

You see it as FUD, I see it as opinion. What is it then? 2 opinions about opinion?
1012  Other / Meta / Re: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ on: February 15, 2020, 01:00:19 PM
Expanded one of the FAQ questions:

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When it comes to accusations of commercial misconduct, if a user is accusing you / someone else of scamming or defrauding them in your / someone else's sales thread without providing evidence (either in the post itself or by linking to evidence elsewhere), that's considered low value and thus should be reported as such.
I was just about to update local thread with this, but I don't understand something:

Does this new rule apply to users who wrongly accuse other users of being a gang, mafia, criminals without any single proof or it is just for someone who accuse "seller" without proof?
1013  Other / Meta / Re: unfair moderation, TS TOAA and all the cuntyfucks made me do this. on: February 15, 2020, 12:27:07 PM
Regarding malboroza's claim, ofcourse you won't see shit as he only pasted what he wished and I won't provide any proof.
I pasted what I see in topic I can't paste what I don't see I don't have mind reading ability and from what I see it is not off topic reply. If there was something which is not presented in topic, well, it doesn't really matter:

Opinion about "item" you sell == on topic.
Telling you that you are retarded cunt waste of sperm and talking about "item" you sell == on topic.
1014  Other / Meta / Account start accusation, then nuked after it? on: February 15, 2020, 11:46:14 AM
I was searching for one topic and I just couldn't find it so I asked in meta about it. Several users said it is because account is nuked, well, it could be some other reason but for now it certainly looks like it was nuked just after and because accusation thread, so why is account Neopotism nuked?

Local rules: user with account number 1018510 is not allowed to post here.
1015  Other / Meta / Re: unfair moderation, TS TOAA and all the cuntyfucks made me do this. on: February 15, 2020, 11:19:11 AM
Maybe it would be a healthy change for you to mind your own business. You are not the arbiter of what freedoms people have on this forum, in spite of your totalitarian tendencies.
This is nonsense! You are against free speech!

Users have right to speak!

Free speech!

That includes commenting other people's business! TECSHARE wants this forum to censure opinions!

You weren't advising shit you started being a dickhead and taking insults towards parents, would of been fine if you keept them towards me, I wouldn't threat you you know id pee on you after.
Can't believe i found this stupid post of yours and that you still talking.
I don't see where TMAN insulted you or said anything about your parents, he made a comment for "items" you want to sell:
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Fella you are going to end up like that other fool who sold old worthless shit, florafucker or something. Pesetas? might as well sell some old potatoes here pal.
My best guess is that this post doesn't contain any information about coin except TMAN's opinion, if he posted there what he posted in this topic, maybe then post wouldn't have been removed. Yet again, opinions are not moderated so this can't be a reason.

I hope moderator will come to say why this post is removed.
1016  Economy / Reputation / Re: by rallier on: February 14, 2020, 03:36:30 PM
Hey Lauda, I mentioned above but I think you don'T understand it's not just about "tagging", it's about tagging someone with "distrust".

So if you tagged me "untrusted" with any excuses with a solid stand, it means you are doing it for your own benefits.
Someone excluding you means they don't think your judgement is good or you are excluded for some other reasons.
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So I am fully exactly to be sure about you don't know me because we don't have any friendly or commercial relationship. So if you tagged me "untrusted" with any excuses with a solid stand, it means you are doing it for your own benefits. On bitcointalk forum there are 1m+ users, Do you tag all users who don't you know personally? No.
Apples and oranges. You should really learn how DT works. There are few threads in meta about it.
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cyber cop

Also, Adolf Hitler thought he was right.

some people act like a racist

So they are still racist.
Oh, it is nazi/racist/cop card again. /ignored
1017  Other / Meta / Re: Accusation topic removed? on: February 14, 2020, 02:13:27 PM
Unless he made some additional posts, or sent some unsolicited PMs that broke the rules, he was nuked because of the thread referenced in the OP.
Maybe, I updated topic. Actually, I change my mind about editing, I have read somewhere that I should start a new thread to talk about something else, which this is right now.
This image proves that this user is banned after posting allegations, it's crazy  Roll Eyes
It would be "crazy" if it was the only reason to nuke account. Read above.
1018  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Posebna ponuda tjedna on: February 13, 2020, 10:43:06 PM
2. Nakon toga imati ćemo 7 dana glasanje po sistemu 1 korisnik 1 glas.
3. Glasati ćete za post koji je vama najviše pomogao.
4. Ne možete glasati za sebe.  
Bude zanimljivo ako se prijavi netko sa hrpetinom alt accounta.

Nego, da li legendary mogu predložiti postove ili je baš ono "svako prijavljuje svoj post"? Mislim, predložio bih par korisnika i njihove postove ako se oni sami već ne jave  Undecided
1019  Other / Meta / Re: Accusation topic removed? on: February 13, 2020, 09:54:12 PM
a poison-pen letter writer
If that is the case, then all posts/topics mentioned in that topic should be removed, don't you agree?
using an anonymous brand new account was appropriate.
It is not forbidden to use brand new account (and btw it is not brand new account, if you had read my post you would have seen that account is 5 months old) to post anything which doesn't break forum rules. IF it is case of ban evasion, I don't think account would have been nuked, or every other ban evader would have been nuked.
Neopotism was annoying and good riddance.
Hm, he provided good evidence of forum account trades (post number 2), I wouldn't call that annoying.

Here https://archive.is/zlDxn#selection-1649.0-1649.133
And response here: https://archive.is/zlDxn#selection-3085.0-3089.69

I think we should wait for staff members, assumptions and speculations are - assumptions and speculations.
1020  Other / Meta / Re: Deleted topic? on: February 13, 2020, 08:21:27 PM
Yeah, I archived it http://archive.is/zlDxn
Usually it's either plagiarism or ban evasion. In this case his posts don't look like plagiarism, and from his posts it looks like an alt-account of an older user. So my guess would be ban evasion.
Ok, but I thought users don't get nuked for ban evasion, I thought they (sometimes) get their accounts banned.
It might be a good idea to revise the later action to instead generate a report on the thread if any post on the thread has received any merit, so it can be manually reviewed to see if removing the thread really is appropriate.

I have no idea why the OP was nuked.
Thread received 2 merits, 1 from timelord and one from...quickseller. User wrote 7 posts:



There are 4 posts dated in September 2019. (going to use google translator for this...context Huh):

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brexit bence avrupanın başına bela olacak uzadıkça uzuyor
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I think brexit is getting longer as Europe will get into trouble

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1 milyar dolar iyi para. bitcoin artık bir çok yönden yatırımcı çekiyor hacim arttıkça fiyat da artar
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1 billion dollars is good money. bitcoin is now attracting investors in many ways, the price increases as the volume increases

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düzgün araştırma yapmadan yatırım yapılarak
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investing without proper research

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değişik bir projeye benziyor e ticaret çağımızda çok yaygın
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It looks like a different project, very common in our e-commerce era.

....and 3 posts are accusations, third post in topic is "reserved" post. There are some other accusations and investigations in that topic, which are on topic. Account is nuked shortly after accusations (not after they posted 4 replies 5 months ago), but this stuff is not moderated.
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