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181  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Crawford vs Canelo-Charlo winner (no date yet) on: August 30, 2023, 05:41:33 PM
At this moment we can all make very big speculations, but if Charlo wins? how are we going to stay? many speechless, and others will win their good sums of money and with good reason, that's why I say if in any sport the most impossible things happen, why not in boxing?

If Charlo wins then no changes for what Crawford desires, he will face instead the winner and proceed to his own timeline.

But technically speaking, although everything is possible to happen including an upset win by Charlo, I don't see any advantages he can use against the prime Canelo. I remember when Bivol was facing Canelo, only a few believed that the former would win but the result didn't say the same. I can't apply that same scenario to Charlo facing Canelo.

Anyway, let's wait for the winner of the Canelo-Charlo bout and speculate everything from there.

Yes, he does have a point because Charlo's chances are still a chance even if it's just slim. But Canelo is still Canelo, he might not be that bad, but I surely believe that he can still give a good fight and defend his belt successfully from a boxer who have jumped across weight classes just to face him. And yes, either way, Crawford will stick to what he stands and will likely face the winner of this fight.

Just to add though, I still don't think that Charlo can make a difference in a division that Canelo owned for years now. He might win some rounds but that's it, he's not getting any luckier than that. No offense.

It will still be Canelo dominating this fight, Although he doesn't look good in his last fight as everyone expecting him to score a knockout victory. We've always talk about Crawford jumping 3 weight class and try to fight Canelo. But we also forget that Jermell is the champion at 154 lbs and so he is already jumping two weight class to face Canelo here. So that is already a good measuring stick to see if someone that really jump that high and face the champion and win (although is chances are very slim as we have thought). But still though, respect for Charlo for having that balls to challenge and fight Alvarez at his best weight class and if I'm not mistaken, he hasn't been defeated yeat at super Middleweight. His defeat to Bivol is him climbing at 175 lbs.

Canelo's dominance in his recent fights has solidifid his reputation as one of the top pound- for-pound fighters. However, boxing is full of surprises, and fights can unfold in unexpected ways. Charlo's decision to move up and face he is a testament to his confidence and willingness to take on tough challenges. It's true that measuring sticks like Charlo's move to face Canelo can provide insights into the potential success of fighters who jump weight classes. And from weight classes varries their different style because depending on their weight classify their speed and strecngth.

Who knows right? anything is possible and uncertain until it happened.
182  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casinos Should Also Be Prepared For Health Emergencies on: August 30, 2023, 05:37:17 PM
I think casinos aren't to blame here because its up to states/countries to define laws enforcing health clinics or doctors in casinos. I feel like crowded casinos must have doctors for sure if they are far away to any health facilities. Emergency issues like this one happen very rarely but its very deadly as well. Cardiac issues are very dangerous sadly it's sometimes about your luck. My relative once experienced same went to hospital lately but survived.
It seems that it also has to do with the laws governing gambling in the state/country because if it's written in the regulations that casinos must provide health clinics or have medical personnel, the casinos will provide them. But if not, the casino will not provide it either because the casino is a place to play gambling and everyone already understands that only those who are healthy may or are allowed to play gambling because there is a risk of getting a heart attack.

However, the casino should immediately provide medical personnel to prevent heart attacks or other illnesses that can occur when customers are gambling. After all, it will be an additional service for its customers and it may be one of the best casinos because it has medical personnel who are always ready to help people who need them.
Yes, I know that all of this is still related to the law and even though there is no law regulating casinos, they require a special clinic or doctor, but at least in OP's case it must be handled by the casino, such as bringing a private car and immediately taking him to the hospital, that is already part best of casino.
Or the security officer at the casino can be one of the people who can help if one day something happens as told by the OP so that even though the casino is a place to have fun, at least there is no worry if something health-related problems occur.

This may sound absurd but for me I guess  offering services like private transportation to medical facilities can be a thoughtful touch that shows a casino's commitment to customer care. It's important for casinos to create an environment where customers feel both safe and supported in case unexpected health issues arise. Like this given as a merit or a reward for bonuses.

Balancing the fun and excitement of a casino with a responsible approach to customer well-being is a crucial aspect of maintaining a positive reputation and ensuring that visitors have a positive experience.
183  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: August 30, 2023, 05:34:39 PM
~snip~
Addicts are everywhere, we're the ones that would be able to tell ourselves the truth, nothing else. We know what we're signing for, and we hope it results in massive profits that would surpassed the loss. Successful gamblers already know the disciplinary measures to follow in the space, they're nothing compared to newbies but professionals, basically have a full knowledge of the gambling system. They make and estimate calculated risks within time, they're running in massive profits. More often, they do record some losses but with budgeted comeback winning to the system.

That's the thing, people hope to get a good result, while ignoring the math behind it.

At the end of the day, most gamblers just do it on a hunch, on feeling, rather than just simply calculating the math behind it, because the return is negative.

And also they cannot do the math because they don't have any records with them. They aren't even aware what are their risk reward is. They don't know when they usually lose, they don't know what is their edge to which they win more often.

Because in gambling if you wanted to be a winner, you gotta to what professionals do and not what addictive gambling do.
184  Economy / Gambling / Re: Help us build the greatest crypto casino on: August 30, 2023, 05:28:54 PM
Well obviously a project like that doesn't come to life in a matter of days. I've read all the comments from this thread and the previous one, I know where the opportunity lies. Now it's time to look for funding, as I've mentioned earlier, my startup capital is only 15k$ which isn't enough. I'll keep you updated along the way.
if you have a relationship in this business, I think you only need you get any potential investors in your project to trust to put money there.
this is not an easy matter, at least you have to carry out all your ideas along with presentations of deficiencies that other projects may have in prototype form to make your presentation easier.
if you are serious, maybe you can find and work with some active forum members who are already familiar with this business.

Presenting your project with a clear and comprehensive business plan is essential. Demonstrating a deep understanding of your market, identifying potential challenges, and offering solutions for those challenges can help you stand out. A prototype or a minimum viable product (MVP) can also go a long way in showcasing the viability of your project and giving investors a tangible example of what you're aiming to achieve.

With these things I believe this somehow will get the attention of those venture capital to be at your project you are doing. As long as your product serves a purpose, like a real purpose and is not just a shill pump and dump, then it will be fruitful.
185  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your reasons for adopting cryptocurrency? on: August 30, 2023, 05:25:04 PM
Lately majority of people find theirselves within the crypto space, but many of them do not really understand the actual reasons for adopting crypto currency other than to make profit, what are your own reasons for adopting cryptocurrency?
I think that crypto technology is a business, so one of my goals is to make a profit from it. even a developer of a project also has the main goal of getting profit. Maybe another goal is to be able to understand more deeply about this technology. However, other goals will definitely keep coming, and end in increasing profits. I think that's the main goal of all of this.
There is no standard or special reason for everyone to adopt cryptocurrency. In fact, some people are in the cryptocurrency industry without any reason, but however, I can surely say some sample of reasons that made people to join crypto currency as follows;
  •   Not to be left out
  •   For financial gain
  •   For privacy
  •   For investment purpose

It always will be for financial gain. What else are they for in there? It's a money-making game. However, because of their impatience, because of their lack of discipline following their trading plan or investment plan, they instead lose money overtime instead making money out of it. People do come and go in this market place. As long the market is trading 24/7, every transaction will flow in the circulation.
186  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What does it take to play casino? on: August 29, 2023, 07:31:43 AM
It must have capital Cry

However, which one should you be more dependent on when it comes to making money from the casino!

Is it really good luck for you?
Which basic technique to use?

It's money management and discipline to follow it. You can have the best gambling strategy but if you over gambling, take those slots which is outside you plan, over risk your funds, you will still lose your money. Yes, you need an edge over the casino with every game, you need an experience that will build your intuition over time. But it is a different level when you have proper risk and money management as well. Gambling becomes more professional.
187  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Hypothetical Question on: August 29, 2023, 07:26:32 AM
If someone told you a guaranteed sports bet that had a 100% chance of winning, how much would you bet on it?

If you had a $10,000 bankroll, would you go all in? We’re talking 100% can’t lose bet.

Would you take out a loan? How would you go about acquiring a large sum of money if you didn’t have the capital.

Let’s say the match is starting 24 hours from now, what would be your plan to maximize your profit?

Asking for a friend  Wink

If that is 100% chance of winning in the game, I would still only take it with the amount of money I am willing to lose. I am not going to take a load, sell any property in return. Why? Because 100% winning is not a 100% withdrawing your money and wins. Did you get my point? What if all bettors win? Is the company or the casino pay it all? What if it is just a glitch and the casino, takes your money and also not give you your win? Can you stomach that?

Not because it is 100% win does mean it no longer have any risk. There's always risk in anything. So for me, I will only risk the mount of money I can lose.
188  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there real sports bet groups on: August 29, 2023, 07:17:12 AM
I've been in some nice betting groups in the past where the tipsters were actually good. Nowdays I have the feeling everyone is trying to be a tipster (even when they are bad)
They are just doing guesses and gambling with people's money...
I also think that, it doesn't matter if they know or don't know, these people like to play and place their bets using other people's money, for that reason it seems to me quite dangerous to trust groups like that, because we don't know the trajectory of what the predictions make and we don't know what they can get away with, what I know very well is that every time they lose they say that they will recover from those, that nothing happens, etc., but it does happen in reality because when things happen they lose money are very delicate, so the excuses are superfluous, I know that losing is normal, but that is why you have a sports and betting group, so as not to lose.

Hard to trust this kind of group because they are using someone else's money.
And definitely, they will say something just to appease their clients.
But we don't know what will be their final goals on this endeavor.
Because their target is to get money as much as they can, out of these people.
These days, very hard to find a legit group of this kind, where they are very cautious of what they will suggest,
or that because they are thinking of the trust that people are giving to them.
Much better if you will do your own analysis, with this practice, you will gain more insights about the game.

Most gamblers and signal providers don't use their money, but someone else's and it is true. They only get partials of the win when they do. So there are 0 risks to them besides the fact that their customers back out from their subscription or agreement. They are only getting funded. When they lose clients, they just need to find new ones.

Some are legit signal providers but most are just scams. They just guess, and I think that's what the was talking in here. Bt in m experience, you just really need to find someone who has proof and real record of them playing and gambling profitably. This works if you don't want to make your own analysis and rely on other's/ There's nothing wrong in that. Do whatever you think make you more money.
189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cockfighting? on: August 29, 2023, 07:09:57 AM
The gambler should take the cock fight as only for the fun.

I don't seem to find any enjoyment in letting two unknowing animals fight to the death just because humans said so. It's a crude form of entertainment, and people pay and bet on it not because they are entertained, but because it's their way of making money. I'm not an animal activist whatsoever, but knowing that these animals are fighting for their survival at the time that they are put inside the arena against their will? Well, that's something to think about, but I guess money and tradition come first before animal welfare.

I am from a country which fully supports this kind of gambling activity. I am not a fan of betting for these animals and I don't raise one, but this has been a tradition for quite some time already. This rosters were raised as if it's a part of your family, they need to be conditioned and with proper feeds and vitamins to achieve it's purpose. Once they die on the arena, they are served as a dinner for the winning team. One can define this as an animal cruelty if they are not part of its tradition. If we're disturbed by watching two rosters fighting each other till death, we should also be disturbed to see two human beings fighting in the ring hitting each others heads applying as much as force as they could to knock the opponent dead just for the money and culture. I mean how is that different? I think we all could agree that human lives are far more precious than the roster's.

HAHAHHAHA. can't stop laughing when he stated that when "these rosters were raised as if it's a part of your family". This is very true in filipino culture. Baka mas mahal pa yan ng tatay mo. Your father loves the roster more than you, They say. Because the fight depends he future of the roster, it either becomes a champion or sahog sa tinola.

It's not about the iolence in animals that made it illegal in the Phlippines, it is because of the large corruption of it in online casino and online gambling The government had no choice then but to close it.
190  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Personal favorite on: August 29, 2023, 07:04:13 AM
I've had the best luck, the fastest withdrawal and deposits from https://www.bitcoincasino.us/ they do require a 3x wager of amount deposit but the cash out immediately. What do any of you think?
your Poll is not complete, you should ask also those does not have interacted to this casino.

and also the way i look at it? you seems to be shilling for this site?
3 wagering and instant withdrawal? sorry but just now that I've seen this casino posted here in bitcointalk.org

Yes, I agree. I think it was also just a catch to those who are also beginners in gambling. Because when you're a curious gambler you visit sites over and over. I don't think there is enough relevance  and proof yet here to valid your presumption. But it is truly based on your experience, then I hope they will stick to the same process until the future. I visited the site but it is inaccessible to me maybe because of my location?
191  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 28, 2023, 03:13:25 PM
@bisdak40 - I don't think that Tank Davis can go down to 130 lbs just to get Inoue. Remember he put a rehydration clause to Ryan Garcia. So he knows what rehydration could do to a fighter so no way he will do that -5 lbs to his frame.

That's quite a risk for him. He is already enjoying his popularity, even more so than Inoue, despite Inoue having a higher ranking among pound-for-pound fighters. It's possible he might choose to wait until Inoue continues moving up in weight, especially considering his undefeated record is on the line.

I believe he wouldn't be inclined to fight in a weight class or a catch weight that would hinder his usual fighting style. For fighters like Tank, the combination of power and speed is a key strength, and the same principle holds true for Inoue, of course.

U're absolutely right. The decision for a fighter like Tank Davis to move up in weight or engage in a high-stakes fight involves careful consiideration of various factors. Maintaining an undefeated record is often a point of pride and a marketing asset for fighters, and they may be cautious about risking it in a matchup that could potentially disrupt their current trajectory.

Weight class changes can impact a fighter's style and performances, so choosing the right weight class or catch weight is crucial. It's also important to consider the strategic advantages and disadvantages of facing different opponents. Both Tank Davis and Inoue possess distinct fighting strengths, and any potential match between them would undoubtedly generate significant attention due to their popularity and skills.

Ultimately, these decisions often came down to a combination of factors including financial incentives, legacy-building, risk assessment, and personal ambition. It's a dynamic landscape in the world of boxing, and fans eagerly await the choices fighters make as they progress in their careers.
192  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Hypothetical Question on: August 28, 2023, 03:11:00 PM
Hypothetically answering here  Grin.If it is a sure thing that the sport match is a guaranteed win,I would go put all the money I have available in my bank account and if it is not enough I would even borrow money from the bank so I can add up and put the maximum amount that the sport book would allow me to bet.I would not be that much greedy as it is enough for me if the sport bet odd is well over 2,let's suppose is 2.5 and I would be very happy if I put the max amount that I am supposing is 100.000 dollars and I would get an extra 150.000 dollars profit,right now that profit is the average pay rate of a good profession in all Europe and even better than average after this lay offs crisis in technology where I happen to work.

Lol I believe you're joking thou but truly no matter how certain and promising the game look, I can not stake my whole savings talk more of borrowing money to stake on a game. By the way, betting is spiritual that even the seers can not tell the exact outcome result but rather provide a mere prediction just like some of us which can be accurate some time or otherwise as well. Bookmakers would have been bankrupt if 100% guarantee games exit as we use to see on social media.

I do forecast my games and as well play the ones share by friends but on no circumstance I stake above my limit. If you can control your greediness, you can control your lose.

it is not a guaranteed win of course. I mean, You make a valid point about the unpredictability of betting outcomes. It's indeed true that no matter how promising a game might seem, there's always an element of uncertainty involved. Responsible gambling is crucial, and setting limits to avoid going beyond your means is a very smart approach. Greedinesses can often lead to more losses than gains, and maintaining a level-headed perspective is essential when engaging in any form of gambling. It's good to hear that you're being cautious and pragmatic in your approach to betting. Remember, gambling should be seen as entertainment rather than a surefire way to make money.
193  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Still not a safe practice even if it works on: August 28, 2023, 03:06:10 PM
I guess you don't understand the reason why VPN is used by a casino users. Let me explain you the reason in simple language. Most countries have either banned online gambling or prohibit users to gamble on online casinos based overseas. In such situation a user from that country would use a VPN, without it they won't be able to access a casino website or hide themselves from the government.

Those casinos that you have named will ask their user to pass KYC. After they pass KYC only then they would be allowed to withdraw their win. Through the KYC verification they know the customer and in the event of illegal activities they would be provide the details to the concerned authorities.

I understand the concept of using a VPN for accessing online casinos, but it's important to note that the legality and ethical implications of such actions can vary based on local regulations. While using a VPN might allow users to bypass restrictions, it's not a foolproof method and can still raise concerns about compliance with both casino policies and legal standards. Additionally, KYC procedures are indeed implemented by many reputable casinos to ensure responsible and legal gambling practices. However, it's essential for users to be aware of the potential risks and consequences associated with using VPNs in this context.
194  Economy / Economics / Re: Having a problem a Personal Finance? on: August 27, 2023, 07:53:53 PM
The key to personal finance doesn't lie in books, courses, videos or lectures. It lies with the individuals. And it is largely behavioural based.. An individual may study all on the courses in the world on personal finance and read all the books by personal financial coaches if the person doesn't change their attitude towards money and the no amount of government programs can change their financial status. Some of the behavioural and attitudinal changes that they need to do is to embrace responsibility, discard limiting beliefs, and take proactive steps for financial success.


Because we all know what we need to do. You have to budget, plan your expenses, monitor your spending, saying no that isn't in your lists. But the most difficult part is the DOING. The apply it every single day. How can you do that? You cannot find it in any books or any YouTube content. Because it is not something you can have by consuming. You will get it once you practice it. It is difficult but you still do it. It is one's responsibility to do their finances.
195  Economy / Gambling / Re: Concept of Halal Casino on: August 27, 2023, 07:48:51 PM
It sounds to me that they're trying to work around their own beliefs which is just weird to say the least.

Yea if we look at the title alone we could say that they are misleading the public base on there belief but going through the entire video the speaker is actually making some points and it’s not encouraging gambling but rather he is advising those Muslim who already found them self in the means of gambling to not use that as an excuse of not praying because of the surrounding that they finds their self that doing that could be seen as a double sin, anyone who see any Muslim in the means of gambling should not also stop them from praying that they should allow them pray, that everything is done one step at at time, with them doing a little of good thing and praying always that they will have better chances of realizing that they are committing a great sin and are likely to change and come out of the sin over time, But discouraging them and calling them siners won’t help the matter at all, he also gave an instance of those who see people who dress half native that it’s better to advise them to dress decently than telling them to completely remove the cloth since they choose to be naked. I finds his teachings educative rather than weird.

Yes, it is quite misleading and worse could spread misinformation if not read the article fully or even watched the video. Of course, clashing with your cultural or religious beliefs will be difficult. It not only gave you an obligation to change and do the right thing but also to give up what you are doing the wrong thing.

Will you give up your beief instead to gamble? or you'll give up gambling and change and stick with your truth and belief? There is no right and wrong answer because we have different values from different backgrounds. But what I know is living against your moral values is not easy.
196  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: HOW DO YOU MAKE MONEY WITH LESS MONEY? on: August 27, 2023, 07:43:12 PM
Maximize Risk-Taking:
Be careful of high leverage, they can end you and put you in debt even before you make any real profit from trading.They are attractive but also dangerous and should be avoided by every trader especially the inexperienced ones who are just new to trading. Risk is encouraged, but it should not be taken blindly when you as a trader know that you are not in a position to handle the dangers that come with taking risk.

Maximize your risk wisely.

Because leverage is a double-edged sword. As much as it can make you a lot of money, it can also erase your funds in an instant. Especially if you don't have the idea yet of computing lots sizes or position sizing. It's is true that the greater the risk the greater the reward. But too much taking risk just in one trae is just like gambling. It will only develop bad habits throughout your trading career instead of being a consistent one.
197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: August 27, 2023, 07:38:25 PM
A successful gambler, in my view, effectively manages their funds, remains composed under pressure, and avoids increasing their bets to recoup losses. Those who neglect proper financial management often display addictive behaviors and typically achieve less success.


Unfortunately, that's only limited to our perspective because we know the real difference between the proper gamblers and addicted gamblers, but for the people that don't know what's the difference, they only see gamblers and addicts as one and nothing more. And the thing is, we cannot do something to change that kind of perspective as even if we try and explain ourselves, it will just be futile and most probably, a waste of time.

See yourself in a position that you want to be in the future. So if you are a struggling gambler who wants to seek and claim consistency and profitability in gambling, don't be ashamed of saying that you are a successful gambler even if you're not for the time being. Identity comes first and then your actions. Because in between the successful one and the addictive one, it's just their level of professionalism, their discipline to follow their budget, and their patience.
198  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: August 27, 2023, 07:31:01 PM
Soccer is not that popular and of interest to most Americans but there is also a sizable Domestic League.
I think the love of football for the US people will be even greater later when the World Cup is over there and the Domestic League can also be the most interested in by most people even though the NFL and NBA are the most popular.
Even for women's soccer the US has a national team that is strong enough and can compete with other national teams.
With the FIFA World Cup being held there, the US has the opportunity to get tickets to compete in this prestigious event.

Association football is not very popular in the United States and one of the reasons is that the US national team is not very strong and almost never performs well during the FIFA tournaments. And the American public doesn't like it when their national team loses to countries such as Germany and Argentina. Hopefully during the 2026 tournament, there will be a change. if the national team can do a few upsets, then there is a chance that more and more people may pay attention to football and in the end it will result in an increased popularity for that sport in the US.

Well, I guess it depends on the preference of the people around that locality. Because like ay other sports, it is about money, business, and reputation of the owner and the company. I am not stealng the rights of the fans for supporting the team and the community bt if you  dig into it, it really is just a business. The real game is managing players not on the court but swapping them and buying the talents of the player  from their budget.
199  Economy / Economics / Re: It ain't meant to be easy on: August 24, 2023, 08:33:25 PM



If your first encounter with crypto was a scam altcoin, it doesn't mean you should wash your hand off of crypto. If you're still interested in it, learn from that bad situation and gain more experience from it.

If you previously made an investment in Bitcoin and you lost, it doesn't mean you should give up on Bitcoin; learn from it and re-evaluate your decision.



Even if you're good at analysis, there will be a point when you will face losses it depends on how much more you have to keep up, some will be frustrated and just give up, and some will take it slow but continue to move on, because of the very high volatility there is no such thing as a perfect investor, we all have our share of ups and downs its the achievement of others are what will aspire us to move on.
He learned our lessons from others who made it they are an example of keeping your focus on your goal.

Because sometime, even you have the best analysis, indicator, or signal, you still onna be wrong. That is a normal part of the game. It doesn't mean you are going to fail, nor if you are going to lose all yur investment. It just mean you lose. Because the market is very unpredictable. The outcome is uncertain so you have to bet and decide which side of the market are you in and when will you participate as much as timing is one of the important factor.

It very helpful to have a ournal in your trading or investn=ment because we have to evaluate our financial decisions. So that with thorough reflections, the istakes we made in the past can be corrected in the future.
200  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold , Silver Or Crypto? on: August 24, 2023, 08:27:57 PM
We have different goals in investing or holding assets, and of the options OP mentioned, I think they are good assets to hold. Before bitcoin, I was also more focused on buying gold, but after I found out about bitcoin, I started to be interested and now I am more focused on bitcoin (by not ruling out gold).
Bitcoin continues to experience rapid growth, and from there I see opportunities that are a pity to miss.

For the views of many people, especially parents in my neighborhood, it can be said that gold is still the prima donna among them, yes it happens because in my neighborhood there are still many who do not know bitcoin.

Every one had their own opinion in the way of holding their assets.Because they had earned this money and have a potential to make their asset based on their opinion.At the ancient time,the gold was preferred one by the people and later to hold lesser shares they used Silver.Now after the invention of crypto currency,most of the people ready to hold in crypto currency.The main reason for holding in crypto currency is the profit time period for crypto currency will be low as compared to gold and silver.

Exactly! it's absolutely just self preference and their belief of which one has more value not just today but n te future. For some, they belive that crypto will be gone in the future. Those are the once who invest in gold and silver instead. For other, bitcoin is the future, so they even use their savings just to accumulate cryptocurrency. Is there anything wrng with that? None.

The most important is both parties are trying to wants to make generatinal wealth by investing in an asset that they believe in.
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