Cricket match prediction discussions

[Sithara007]

You are right. There was a game between Netherlands and Pakistan in which Pakistan just scored 206 runs and it was bowlers that saved the day for Pakistan. From both these tour of Srilanka and Netherlands its very much clear that Pakistan is not a good test and odi side.

Yeah.. we are talking about the 3rd ODI between these two sides, in which Pakistan won by just 9 runs. Apart from Babar Azam (91) all the other Pakistani batsmen failed in this match. But historically, Netherlands has been strong in the pace bowling department. Remember the 2003 World Cup match between India and Netherlands? India were bowled out for just 204 runs (two runs less than what Pakistan made). Back then it was Tim de Leede who wrecked the Indian batting lineup. And 19 years later, it was his son (Bas de Leede) who bowled out Pakistan for 206.

[Ayers]

You are right. There was a game between Netherlands and Pakistan in which Pakistan just scored 206 runs and it was bowlers that saved the day for Pakistan. From both these tour of Srilanka and Netherlands its very much clear that Pakistan is not a good test and odi side.

Yeah.. we are talking about the 3rd ODI between these two sides, in which Pakistan won by just 9 runs. Apart from Babar Azam (91) all the other Pakistani batsmen failed in this match. But historically, Netherlands has been strong in the pace bowling department. Remember the 2003 World Cup match between India and Netherlands? India were bowled out for just 204 runs (two runs less than what Pakistan made). Back then it was Tim de Leede who wrecked the Indian batting lineup. And 19 years later, it was his son (Bas de Leede) who bowled out Pakistan for 206.

I think that Pakistan can take some positives from this and that is they know they have the firepower in the bowling department to defend even a very low total. And Pakistan will remember that they have to do well as a team in the batting department. Currently, the batting lineup of Pakistan is not being able to perform together as a unit. That is a very big weakness for Pakistan.

They will have to remember that only one or two players performing each match are not going to be enough for them. Pakistan was very lucky that they had good bowlers. That's why they could win by 9 runs in that match against Netherlands. Otherwise, it would have been a big upset.

[Sithara007]

From today onwards, the ICC Under-19 World Cup Qualifier Asia Division Two will start. A total of 8 teams are taking part - Hong Kong, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Thailand, Bahrain and Bhutan. Disappointed to see China and Iran pulling out. The top two teams from this tournament will join Kuwait, Malaysia, Nepal and the United Arab Emirates for Division 1 tournament (from where the top team would qualify for the 2024 Under-19 Cricket World Cup). Simultaneously, qualifying tournaments are taking place in Africa, Americas, EAP and Europe. 

[savetheFORUM]

I think that Pakistan can take some positives from this and that is they know they have the firepower in the bowling department to defend even a very low total. And Pakistan will remember that they have to do well as a team in the batting department. Currently, the batting lineup of Pakistan is not being able to perform together as a unit. That is a very big weakness for Pakistan.

They will have to remember that only one or two players performing each match are not going to be enough for them. Pakistan was very lucky that they had good bowlers. That's why they could win by 9 runs in that match against Netherlands. Otherwise, it would have been a big upset.

Pakistan is mostly having good side, but sadly their inner politics is also involved in selection which is bigger concern in recent time as well they are sticking with few players for long time even their performance is not as they have to be, and they have few good players like Sharjeel Khan, Shoaib Malik and Haider Ali which are not having enough chances in last few months which is also not good because right now it's good time for having them into team and take good advantage but again and again sticking with failures are bringing them into big hole.

In last two matches against England their batting going down badly but bowling helping in good way which is good combination but still it's time for having few changes and bringing few other players as well which are capable of giving their best for the team in long run.

[Sithara007]

The first match in ICC Under-19 World Cup Qualifier Asia Division Two has been won by Oman by a massive margin of 201 runs. It was disappointing since Bhutan playing XI was 100% native, while the Oman team was 100% comprised of foreigners. Aryan Bisht scored 60, and Oman reached a total of 255/9 in 50 overs. Karma Dorji picked up 3 wickets, while Rigser Namgyel and Anand Mongar picked 2 wickets each. In return, Bhutan was bowled out for a total of 54 runs in 20.5 overs. The scorecard is here:

https://www.icc-cricket.com/match/101256#scorecard

[Juggy777]

I think that Pakistan can take some positives from this and that is they know they have the firepower in the bowling department to defend even a very low total. And Pakistan will remember that they have to do well as a team in the batting department. Currently, the batting lineup of Pakistan is not being able to perform together as a unit. That is a very big weakness for Pakistan.

They will have to remember that only one or two players performing each match are not going to be enough for them. Pakistan was very lucky that they had good bowlers. That's why they could win by 9 runs in that match against Netherlands. Otherwise, it would have been a big upset.

Pakistan is mostly having good side, but sadly their inner politics is also involved in selection which is bigger concern in recent time as well they are sticking with few players for long time even their performance is not as they have to be, and they have few good players like Sharjeel Khan, Shoaib Malik and Haider Ali which are not having enough chances in last few months which is also not good because right now it's good time for having them into team and take good advantage but again and again sticking with failures are bringing them into big hole.

In last two matches against England their batting going down badly but bowling helping in good way which is good combination but still it's time for having few changes and bringing few other players as well which are capable of giving their best for the team in long run.

@Ayers I believe that Pakistan is a team that’s capable of beating the big team’s, but they’re not consistent at all which makes it’s difficult to predict how they’ll perform in the World Cup. Furthermore I would not advise to wager big on them even if you’re getting tempting odds, but do monitor their performances and if you see improvement in their form then it won’t be a bad idea to wager small amounts on them.

[DanWalker]

The first match in ICC Under-19 World Cup Qualifier Asia Division Two has been won by Oman by a massive margin of 201 runs. It was disappointing since Bhutan playing XI was 100% native, while the Oman team was 100% comprised of foreigners. Aryan Bisht scored 60, and Oman reached a total of 255/9 in 50 overs. Karma Dorji picked up 3 wickets, while Rigser Namgyel and Anand Mongar picked 2 wickets each. In return, Bhutan was bowled out for a total of 54 runs in 20.5 overs. The scorecard is here:

https://www.icc-cricket.com/match/101256#scorecard

This is a really massive win for the Oman under-19 team. Honestly, I have to say that I expected a lot more from Bhutan's under-19 team. At the very least, it was expected that they would play the entire 50 overs. It is my belief that there is a very important reason why Oman did so well against Bhutan, and that is that they have a team that is made up of 100 percent expatriates.

Unless ICC takes any kind of action against this I don't think this problem is going to be solved. The fact that other teams are also going to make their first 11 out of foreign players is going to push them to do the same thing.

[eaLiTy]

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Unless ICC takes any kind of action against this I don't think this problem is going to be solved. The fact that other teams are also going to make their first 11 out of foreign players is going to push them to do the same thing.

ICC will not be taking any action and none of the Emirati or GCC nations will riot even if they fill the team with foreign players as literally there is no GCC citizen is playing the game and you cannot say the same with any other country which is taking the game of Cricket seriously as there will be serious protest from the players if any board thinks about filling with outside players .

As far as i know these GCC countries are not scouting players from other countries but rather they are in the team because they migrated to that country searching for a job and then end up playing Cricket and then getting including in the national team by building a career playing club Cricket.

[n0ne]

As far as i know these GCC countries are not scouting players from other countries but rather they are in the team because they migrated to that country searching for a job and then end up playing Cricket and then getting including in the national team by building a career playing club Cricket.

Most players of the GCC teams were from Asian countries, particularly from Pakistan and India. They've migrated into GCC countries for job and professional career, by some reason few have ended up playing cricket. If the GCC countries specific boards were quite comfortable with it. So, this is no more an issue.

[Sithara007]

As far as i know these GCC countries are not scouting players from other countries but rather they are in the team because they migrated to that country searching for a job and then end up playing Cricket and then getting including in the national team by building a career playing club Cricket.

Most players of the GCC teams were from Asian countries, particularly from Pakistan and India. They've migrated into GCC countries for job and professional career, by some reason few have ended up playing cricket. If the GCC countries specific boards were quite comfortable with it. So, this is no more an issue.

It may be a non-issue for you, but not for me. Nowhere in the world, foreigners are allowed to constitute 100% of the playing XI in any other sport. 99% of the other sports have a requirement that only citizens can play for national teams and the remaining 1% allow 1 or 2 foreigners at the most. And in cricket a majority of the teams doesn't have a single citizen in the "national" teams.

And many of these players arrived on GCC nations on tourist visa (and not on job visa). They become eligible to play for these countries after 6 months of residence. The eligibility criteria in cricket is a joke.

[JSRAW]

An incredible article by journalist Sidharth Monga, I suggest everyone to read it.

I've said this many times, BCCI does hold the financial power but the media narrative is always controlled by England and Australia completely.

Some would say the recent runout by Deepti Sharma against England took cricketing world by storm and now calling out SENA countries (ENG +AUS) hypocrisy openly. 


Why is there stigma involved in running out a non-striker? Because it's all about power

Australia's "hard but fair" cricket is an abstract notion that accommodates illustrious captains claiming catches off the ground, vicious sledging, their batters insinuating chucking when walking off after being dismissed by a bowler but crying murder when Virat Kohli questions their captain's integrity. When someone sledges them back, there miraculously appears a line that cannot be crossed, which is drawn by Australia and whose location only they know.

Using a lozenge to attain reverse swing is fine in England till such time as others do it or do it in a different way. The definitions of an ideal pitch that often emerge when a Test ends in two days in Asia disappear when the old ball is seaming around prodigiously in the second innings as it did in the recent two-day Test at The Oval. Such sermons often flow from these two countries, and are sometimes backed by New Zealand and South Africa.

This one is interesting, evidence based research by Peter Della Penna on a particular runout incident which took place in 3rd match (IND vs ENG)
https://twitter.com/PeterDellaPenna/status/1573979090784223234

Additional twitter thread by Harsha Bhogle on same topic.
https://twitter.com/bhogleharsha/status/1575773686082465792

[justdimin]

It may be a non-issue for you, but not for me. Nowhere in the world, foreigners are allowed to constitute 100% of the playing XI in any other sport. 99% of the other sports have a requirement that only citizens can play for national teams and the remaining 1% allow 1 or 2 foreigners at the most. And in cricket a majority of the teams doesn't have a single citizen in the "national" teams.

And many of these players arrived on GCC nations on tourist visa (and not on job visa). They become eligible to play for these countries after 6 months of residence. The eligibility criteria in cricket is a joke.

Most of the peoples are having no idea what they are talking and what is issue because they never understand beauty of the game right now as things are going for GCC it is surely punishable because I am personally feeling these things never been allowed you to are not having any player from native country and team is participating in big events like Asia Cup, and then they can go into World Cup it is completely nonsense but here ICC is doing all hypocrisy just because of few personal likes and dislikes which are never been good for the game of cricket.

Here many countries with native players are going to suffer badly if they want to do these things then surely we need a policy player which are living in country for four or five years they should be allowed instead of which are coming on visit visa and enjoying and the after few months they are not having any chance agree about this ICC is doing good jokes with this game.

[Sithara007]

The Women's Asia Cup will start from today, with Bangladesh taking on Thailand in the first match. A total of 7 teams are taking part. Apart from the four test nations (Afghanistan is not participating), three of the associate nations are also taking part (Thailand, Malaysia and United Arab Emirates). Last time, the number of participants was 6, and back then the trophy was won by Bangladesh. India will be the favorites this time, especially after they white-washed England 3-0 in the ODI series. Each of the teams will play a total of 6 matches in the group phase, and the top-4 will proceed to the semi-finals.

[JSRAW]

^^ Good to see Malaysia and Thailand in the Asia cup. This should happen in Men's Asia cup too.

Indian Women's team is too strong in the Asia Cup. The recent form is impressive so we can expect them to continue with their momentum, unless some upset happens similar to the 2018 edition.

[BobK71]

I am very optimistic that India will win the Women's Asia Cup this year. In a word, Indian women team is the best from all the aspects. The Their current form has really impressed the Indian supporters thus making them more likely to win this tournament. But it goes without saying that since it is T20 game, anything can happen due to a slight carelessness. But overall I think India is favorite.

[Sithara007]

^^ Good to see Malaysia and Thailand in the Asia cup. This should happen in Men's Asia cup too.

Indian Women's team is too strong in the Asia Cup. The recent form is impressive so we can expect them to continue with their momentum, unless some upset happens similar to the 2018 edition.

Thailand women's team is performing badly for the last few months. The failure to qualify for the world cup seems to have impacted their morale. And Indian women are a class apart. In Asia, there are no real competitors for them at any level. Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh teams are far behind in terms of quality and consistency. And it was a good idea from the ACC to increase number of participants from 6 to 7. I would have liked to have Nepal as well in the competition, but they failed to qualify.

[Minecache]

The Women's Asia Cup will start from today, with Bangladesh taking on Thailand in the first match. A total of 7 teams are taking part. Apart from the four test nations (Afghanistan is not participating), three of the associate nations are also taking part (Thailand, Malaysia and United Arab Emirates). Last time, the number of participants was 6, and back then the trophy was won by Bangladesh. India will be the favorites this time, especially after they white-washed England 3-0 in the ODI series. Each of the teams will play a total of 6 matches in the group phase, and the top-4 will proceed to the semi-finals.

The Bangladesh women versus Thailand women match has already ended. It is good to see the Bangladeshi women playing so well. They have won this match quite convincingly. With 9 wickets and 50 balls left this was a Goodwin for Bangladesh women. Generally, this type of when is not often seen in T20 cricket. But I am still sad that Shamima Sultana did not get her half-century. Rumana Ahmed was the best bowler for Bangladesh. 3 wickets for 9 runs in 3 overs. That is just amazing. I think it is going to be a good tournament. And even though Bangladesh is performing well as the defending champion I don't think they will be able to defend it properly. India is obviously going to be the hot favorite.

[|MINER|]

I am very optimistic that India will win the Women's Asia Cup this year. In a word, Indian women team is the best from all the aspects. The Their current form has really impressed the Indian supporters thus making them more likely to win this tournament. But it goes without saying that since it is T20 game, anything can happen due to a slight carelessness. But overall I think India is favorite.

Yes it could be because they have really perform a great match in previous match against Sri Lanka their bowlers perform big role. They able to down Sri Lanka at 109  I also think that india  most strong team on the table -20 .  I think if they can continue this then their is nothing a really hard work

[impulse709]

It was a very easy matter for Thailand women's team to win the match of Bangladesh women's team. I have been noticing that Thailand women's team has not always performed well. I think that the qualification of Thailand women's team to go to the World Cup is on the way to disappear.  Bangladesh women won this match very easily which is really positive for Bangladesh

[eaLiTy]

It was a very easy matter for Thailand women's team to win the match of Bangladesh women's team. I have been noticing that Thailand women's team has not always performed well. I think that the qualification of Thailand women's team to go to the World Cup is on the way to disappear.  Bangladesh women won this match very easily which is really positive for Bangladesh

I saw the betting lines between Thailand Women and Bangladesh Women and i wanted to place a bet but i checked all the platforms to see the match live but unfortunately it was not available because i have not seen Bangladesh Women perform well against the top teams and hence i am not sure what to make of the match situation. They should telecast the match either in YouTube for anyone to get interested in these matches even to place a bet.