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November 12, 2022, 01:56:58 PM
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Greg Barclay has been re-elected.  Grin

That would be disastrous for the sport of cricket. Now the pig-4 countries will become even more powerful, and smaller nations would be ignored. It also means that the sham eligibility system would remain in place, under which entire playing XI for "national" teams will be created 100% from foreign players. This will also negatively impact the inclusion of cricket in olympics. And the worst part is that Jay Shah has been elected as the head of Finance and Commercial Affairs committee. That will push the smaller nations to the fringe even more.
Aha just posted the Jay Shah news in another thread.

IMHO Jay Shah as the finance head of the global committee is far more dangerous than Barclay being the Chairman because i believe BCCI is gearing up for a revenue drama (it'll impact everyone), which was started by Shashank Manohar a few years back.


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November 12, 2022, 03:01:37 PM
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Today Pakistan vs New Zealand Match
 Both teams played well and outstanding. But Pakistan won semi finals by their balling and betting performance. So let's see Final Match which team won the Final Match??
It was an easy win at the end for Pakistan and they are through to the final - today England and India will compete. Most people predict that India and Pakistan will be playing FINAL. And there will be gambling and betting and lots of money moving around at the back..

Pakistan really gave their best yesterday, batting wise,balling, fielding ,all was perfect. They displayed some excellent cricket and beat Newzealand easily. Now let's see who'll win today India or England and join Pakistan in finals.

India already lose Semi final From England. Now let's see who win the Final Match. Pakistani Batsman always best. Hopefully, Rizwan and Babber make incredible Partnership as well as Bowlers also good. So, who will the T20 World Cup 2022 Pakistan or England??

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November 12, 2022, 03:34:56 PM
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Today Pakistan vs New Zealand Match
 Both teams played well and outstanding. But Pakistan won semi finals by their balling and betting performance. So let's see Final Match which team won the Final Match??
It was an easy win at the end for Pakistan and they are through to the final - today England and India will compete. Most people predict that India and Pakistan will be playing FINAL. And there will be gambling and betting and lots of money moving around at the back..

Pakistan really gave their best yesterday, batting wise,balling, fielding ,all was perfect. They displayed some excellent cricket and beat Newzealand easily. Now let's see who'll win today India or England and join Pakistan in finals.

India already lose Semi final From England. Now let's see who win the Final Match. Pakistani Batsman always best. Hopefully, Rizwan and Babber make incredible Partnership as well as Bowlers also good. So, who will the T20 World Cup 2022 Pakistan or England??
Yes it true true that If Rizwan and Babar Azam can do well there will be chance to win of Pakistan but match prediction is still on the England side . And if you see the England teams middle and top both order side is more strong than Pakistan and this is one reason to keep England one step ahead .  At the end of the day if rain  doesn't spoil the match hopefully we will see a competitive game.

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November 12, 2022, 05:19:13 PM
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A major weakness of Pakistan is that when the top order is over, the match is over. It is difficult to win against a good opponent in such situations. As England is a complete team. England can be defeated by a combined effort. Pakistan have some good points here and if they can stay on the pitch especially top two wickets they can score a lot of runs. On the other there have good bowlers too. They can also do well in bowling action. But the Australian pitch is suitable for England where it will be hostile towards Pakistan.
Despite of all the weakness - Pakistan reached the final.
They have been certainty lucky to have reached the finals. Good luck to team Pakistan but I have at the back of my mind. Maybe England will win it.
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November 12, 2022, 05:50:52 PM
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Today Pakistan vs New Zealand Match
 Both teams played well and outstanding. But Pakistan won semi finals by their balling and betting performance. So let's see Final Match which team won the Final Match??
It was an easy win at the end for Pakistan and they are through to the final - today England and India will compete. Most people predict that India and Pakistan will be playing FINAL. And there will be gambling and betting and lots of money moving around at the back..

Pakistan really gave their best yesterday, batting wise,balling, fielding ,all was perfect. They displayed some excellent cricket and beat Newzealand easily. Now let's see who'll win today India or England and join Pakistan in finals.

India already lose Semi final From England. Now let's see who win the Final Match. Pakistani Batsman always best. Hopefully, Rizwan and Babber make incredible Partnership as well as Bowlers also good. So, who will the T20 World Cup 2022 Pakistan or England??
Yes it true true that If Rizwan and Babar Azam can do well there will be chance to win of Pakistan but match prediction is still on the England side . And if you see the England teams middle and top both order side is more strong than Pakistan and this is one reason to keep England one step ahead .  At the end of the day if rain  doesn't spoil the match hopefully we will see a competitive game.
A major weakness of Pakistan is that when the top order is over, the match is over. It is difficult to win against a good opponent in such situations. As England is a complete team. England can be defeated by a combined effort. Pakistan have some good points here and if they can stay on the pitch especially top two wickets they can score a lot of runs. On the other there have good bowlers too. They can also do well in bowling action. But the Australian pitch is suitable for England where it will be hostile towards Pakistan.
That's true to an extend Pakistan win is mostly in hands of its openers Muhammad Rizwan and Babar Azam  but Muhammad Haris ,Shan Masood and Iftikhar Ahmed are also performing very well batting wise . Pakistan balling is their lifting point if they want to win they should ball first and control runs and wickets (if they wins toss tomorrow).

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November 12, 2022, 07:36:52 PM
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Greg Barclay has been re-elected.  Grin

That would be disastrous for the sport of cricket. Now the pig-4 countries will become even more powerful, and smaller nations would be ignored. It also means that the sham eligibility system would remain in place, under which entire playing XI for "national" teams will be created 100% from foreign players. This will also negatively impact the inclusion of cricket in olympics. And the worst part is that Jay Shah has been elected as the head of Finance and Commercial Affairs committee. That will push the smaller nations to the fringe even more.

No matter who got elected the policies won't change much.  The smaller nations will always get ignored while the rich board will do everything to make them more rich.


India already lose Semi final From England. Now let's see who win the Final Match. Pakistani Batsman always best. Hopefully, Rizwan and Babber make incredible Partnership as well as Bowlers also good. So, who will the T20 World Cup 2022 Pakistan or England??

The weather prediction in Melbourne is not good for both Sunday and the reserve day, Monday.
So it may be possible that Weather wins at the end of the day which will not be good for the teams and spectators. Also, i am not in favor of reduced 10 over match. It should be a full 20 overs without interruption and DLS calculations.

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November 12, 2022, 11:52:15 PM
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A major weakness of Pakistan is that when the top order is over, the match is over. It is difficult to win against a good opponent in such situations. As England is a complete team. England can be defeated by a combined effort. Pakistan have some good points here and if they can stay on the pitch especially top two wickets they can score a lot of runs. On the other there have good bowlers too. They can also do well in bowling action. But the Australian pitch is suitable for England where it will be hostile towards Pakistan.
Pakistan bowlers are bowling their heart out and if the batsman can perform well then they would have the ability to win the title. It all depends upon the toss as i think it is crucial and then the Pakistan top order has to perform if they are to win as their middle order is always struggling to score runs throughout this tournament. England have a complete team even though they have some injury concerns they have one of the best all round team in the tournament.
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November 13, 2022, 02:20:57 AM
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Aha just posted the Jay Shah news in another thread.

IMHO Jay Shah as the finance head of the global committee is far more dangerous than Barclay being the Chairman because i believe BCCI is gearing up for a revenue drama (it'll impact everyone), which was started by Shashank Manohar a few years back.

Revenue drama was first started by N Srinivasan, when he changed the usual revenue distribution model, and then proposed to reduce the associate funding to zero. Shashank Manohar implemented a proposal that was somewhere in between (the pre-2015 model and the Srinivasan model). Then the BCCI  negotiated further to increase their share and Manohar modified his proposal again. It was again altered when Ireland and Afghanistan were promoted as full members. Their increased share came from the associate pot, and it further weakened the associate nations.

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Aha just posted the Jay Shah news in another thread.

IMHO Jay Shah as the finance head of the global committee is far more dangerous than Barclay being the Chairman because i believe BCCI is gearing up for a revenue drama (it'll impact everyone), which was started by Shashank Manohar a few years back.

Revenue drama was first started by N Srinivasan, when he changed the usual revenue distribution model, and then proposed to reduce the associate funding to zero. Shashank Manohar implemented a proposal that was somewhere in between (the pre-2015 model and the Srinivasan model). Then the BCCI  negotiated further to increase their share and Manohar modified his proposal again. It was again altered when Ireland and Afghanistan were promoted as full members. Their increased share came from the associate pot, and it further weakened the associate nations.
From BCCI's perspective, it was all started by Shashank Manohar because they really think that he F$ucked em over, that's why I think these guys will try something new this time and no more status quo.

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Aha just posted the Jay Shah news in another thread.

IMHO Jay Shah as the finance head of the global committee is far more dangerous than Barclay being the Chairman because i believe BCCI is gearing up for a revenue drama (it'll impact everyone), which was started by Shashank Manohar a few years back.

Revenue drama was first started by N Srinivasan, when he changed the usual revenue distribution model, and then proposed to reduce the associate funding to zero. Shashank Manohar implemented a proposal that was somewhere in between (the pre-2015 model and the Srinivasan model). Then the BCCI  negotiated further to increase their share and Manohar modified his proposal again. It was again altered when Ireland and Afghanistan were promoted as full members. Their increased share came from the associate pot, and it further weakened the associate nations.

BCCI earns alot from IPL still they keep an eye on associate nations share which is not a good thing. BCCI dont want more tests teams since that will destroy the supremacy of BCCI in cricket. We need more nations in cricket, BCCI must help its neighbor Nepal to join as Test team.
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Aha just posted the Jay Shah news in another thread.

IMHO Jay Shah as the finance head of the global committee is far more dangerous than Barclay being the Chairman because i believe BCCI is gearing up for a revenue drama (it'll impact everyone), which was started by Shashank Manohar a few years back.

Revenue drama was first started by N Srinivasan, when he changed the usual revenue distribution model, and then proposed to reduce the associate funding to zero. Shashank Manohar implemented a proposal that was somewhere in between (the pre-2015 model and the Srinivasan model). Then the BCCI  negotiated further to increase their share and Manohar modified his proposal again. It was again altered when Ireland and Afghanistan were promoted as full members. Their increased share came from the associate pot, and it further weakened the associate nations.
From BCCI's perspective, it was all started by Shashank Manohar because they really think that he F$ucked em over, that's why I think these guys will try something new this time and no more status quo.

Hypothetical and not realistic but I wonder what if BCCI goes into destructive mode and actually back the associate members by increasing their pot? Let's say 50% deduction from all full tests nation.
England is about to win the world cup ladies and gentlemen. they are just 10 run away for the vicotry 2 sixs and the match is in over.
Pakistan should have done a much higher score at least to win the match.

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^^ We are not talking about the World cup but the ICC election and revenue model.

And also to another poster If every country starts playing test matches then each and every board including ICC will go bankrupt. New teams should focus on LOIs only, without any doubt.


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^^ We are not talking about the World cup but the ICC election and revenue model.

And also to another poster If every country starts playing test matches then each and every board including ICC will go bankrupt. New teams should focus on LOIs only, without any doubt.


Today PAkistan and England has played in Final - England and Pakistan has a home series too and Pakistan performed well.
Today Pakistan lost their golden opportunity and their dream of becoming the world champions remains a dream.

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November 13, 2022, 11:59:39 PM
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BCCI earns alot from IPL still they keep an eye on associate nations share which is not a good thing. BCCI dont want more tests teams since that will destroy the supremacy of BCCI in cricket. We need more nations in cricket, BCCI must help its neighbor Nepal to join as Test team.

Rather than adding more nations why not focus of increasing the quality of cricket among the nations which are already playing cricket?
Even the old teams like Bangladesh, West Indies , Zimbabwe performances are not as they should be and we have only 3 to 5 teams which are considered to be strong team in world cricket.



^^ We are not talking about the World cup but the ICC election and revenue model.

And also to another poster If every country starts playing test matches then each and every board including ICC will go bankrupt. New teams should focus on LOIs only, without any doubt.


Today PAkistan and England has played in Final - England and Pakistan has a home series too and Pakistan performed well.
Today Pakistan lost their golden opportunity and their dream of becoming the world champions remains a dream.

Well, why do you think that only Pakistan had the dream of winning the title and becoming champions? England was also playing for the title and they played better cricket and deserve this title.  Smiley  They held their emotions in this big match and were well rewarded.

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BCCI earns alot from IPL still they keep an eye on associate nations share which is not a good thing. BCCI dont want more tests teams since that will destroy the supremacy of BCCI in cricket. We need more nations in cricket, BCCI must help its neighbor Nepal to join as Test team.

Rather than adding more nations why not focus of increasing the quality of cricket among the nations which are already playing cricket?
Even the old teams like Bangladesh, West Indies , Zimbabwe performances are not as they should be and we have only 3 to 5 teams which are considered to be strong team in world cricket.
ICC may assist the cricket board but the responsibility of player selection depends on the local cricket board. If there is corruption then how we can get quality of cricket or cricketers. I think ICC has nothing to do in this regard. But if their nominated persons are aware then some progress can be expected in this concern. But that too cannot be enforced when political interference comes into cricket. The condition of Bangladesh, West Indies, Zimbabwe is like that, but in recent times, Zimbabwe cricket has come up in a better position than before. It can be said that their cricket has improved a lot.

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November 14, 2022, 02:02:35 PM
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BCCI earns alot from IPL still they keep an eye on associate nations share which is not a good thing. BCCI dont want more tests teams since that will destroy the supremacy of BCCI in cricket. We need more nations in cricket, BCCI must help its neighbor Nepal to join as Test team.
Rather than adding more nations why not focus of increasing the quality of cricket among the nations which are already playing cricket?
Even the old teams like Bangladesh, West Indies , Zimbabwe performances are not as they should be and we have only 3 to 5 teams which are considered to be strong team in world cricket.
ICC may assist the cricket board but the responsibility of player selection depends on the local cricket board. If there is corruption then how we can get quality of cricket or cricketers. I think ICC has nothing to do in this regard. But if their nominated persons are aware then some progress can be expected in this concern. But that too cannot be enforced when political interference comes into cricket. The condition of Bangladesh, West Indies, Zimbabwe is like that, but in recent times, Zimbabwe cricket has come up in a better position than before. It can be said that their cricket has improved a lot.

I am absolutely not saying that there is no corruption in other sports. In a lot of sports, there are corrupt boards, but I don’t think those are corrupt at that level like cricket is.

I think there are other sports which are actually more corrupt, but that corruption is quite limited to the board, and individually. At least that corruption does not help to do anything with the sports body as far as I know.

And we can talk about FIFA if we want. I know Fifa is corrupted, and that is a big reason why FIFA is hosting the previous World Cup and also this World Cup in countries which are not famous for football.

But at least they are trying to give all teams equal value and respect. But the ICC absolutely does not care about any of that. They only care about money and that is why they also do not care about whatever happens to the quality of the teams playing cricket.
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November 14, 2022, 06:09:42 PM
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BCCI earns alot from IPL still they keep an eye on associate nations share which is not a good thing. BCCI dont want more tests teams since that will destroy the supremacy of BCCI in cricket. We need more nations in cricket, BCCI must help its neighbor Nepal to join as Test team.
Rather than adding more nations why not focus of increasing the quality of cricket among the nations which are already playing cricket?
Even the old teams like Bangladesh, West Indies , Zimbabwe performances are not as they should be and we have only 3 to 5 teams which are considered to be strong team in world cricket.
ICC may assist the cricket board but the responsibility of player selection depends on the local cricket board. If there is corruption then how we can get quality of cricket or cricketers. I think ICC has nothing to do in this regard. But if their nominated persons are aware then some progress can be expected in this concern. But that too cannot be enforced when political interference comes into cricket. The condition of Bangladesh, West Indies, Zimbabwe is like that, but in recent times, Zimbabwe cricket has come up in a better position than before. It can be said that their cricket has improved a lot.

I am absolutely not saying that there is no corruption in other sports. In a lot of sports, there are corrupt boards, but I don’t think those are corrupt at that level like cricket is.

I think there are other sports which are actually more corrupt, but that corruption is quite limited to the board, and individually. At least that corruption does not help to do anything with the sports body as far as I know.

And we can talk about FIFA if we want. I know Fifa is corrupted, and that is a big reason why FIFA is hosting the previous World Cup and also this World Cup in countries which are not famous for football.

But at least they are trying to give all teams equal value and respect. But the ICC absolutely does not care about any of that. They only care about money and that is why they also do not care about whatever happens to the quality of the teams playing cricket.
There is a documentary about FIFA on netflix and it shows how corrupt the sport business are. There is a whole mafia behind all the entertainment - but about yesterday match with England - Pakistan did their best - but they failed. Pakistani fans are still happy and appreciating their efforts.

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November 14, 2022, 06:29:22 PM
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BCCI earns alot from IPL still they keep an eye on associate nations share which is not a good thing. BCCI dont want more tests teams since that will destroy the supremacy of BCCI in cricket. We need more nations in cricket, BCCI must help its neighbor Nepal to join as Test team.
Rather than adding more nations why not focus of increasing the quality of cricket among the nations which are already playing cricket?
Even the old teams like Bangladesh, West Indies , Zimbabwe performances are not as they should be and we have only 3 to 5 teams which are considered to be strong team in world cricket.
ICC may assist the cricket board but the responsibility of player selection depends on the local cricket board. If there is corruption then how we can get quality of cricket or cricketers. I think ICC has nothing to do in this regard. But if their nominated persons are aware then some progress can be expected in this concern. But that too cannot be enforced when political interference comes into cricket. The condition of Bangladesh, West Indies, Zimbabwe is like that, but in recent times, Zimbabwe cricket has come up in a better position than before. It can be said that their cricket has improved a lot.

I am absolutely not saying that there is no corruption in other sports. In a lot of sports, there are corrupt boards, but I don’t think those are corrupt at that level like cricket is.

I think there are other sports which are actually more corrupt, but that corruption is quite limited to the board, and individually. At least that corruption does not help to do anything with the sports body as far as I know.

And we can talk about FIFA if we want. I know Fifa is corrupted, and that is a big reason why FIFA is hosting the previous World Cup and also this World Cup in countries which are not famous for football.

But at least they are trying to give all teams equal value and respect. But the ICC absolutely does not care about any of that. They only care about money and that is why they also do not care about whatever happens to the quality of the teams playing cricket.
There is a documentary about FIFA on netflix and it shows how corrupt the sport business are. There is a whole mafia behind all the entertainment - but about yesterday match with England - Pakistan did their best - but they failed. Pakistani fans are still happy and appreciating their efforts.
Maybe Pakistan gave his best. But Pakistan supporters expected to more. Many people thought in advance that Pakistan would take the T20 World Cup, but i considered it was not less where Pakistan play in the final match. However, lack of few runs, Pakistan could not control the match that is very clearly to the spectators. So many guessed if they could add 20 runs. Ben Stokes could not easily control them in the match at that position.

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November 14, 2022, 07:21:10 PM
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Maybe Pakistan gave his best. But Pakistan supporters expected to more. Many people thought in advance that Pakistan would take the T20 World Cup, but i considered it was not less where Pakistan play in the final match. However, lack of few runs, Pakistan could not control the match that is very clearly to the spectators. So many guessed if they could add 20 runs. Ben Stokes could not easily control them in the match at that position.
That is correct - although they managed to take the Butlers wicket at early stage - later they tried to build some pressure but in the end stokes took the match from their hand. Sam  also performed well. But yesterday was not Pakistan day. It was the golden opportunity they missed after approx 30 years.

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November 14, 2022, 08:16:08 PM
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Well, why do you think that only Pakistan had the dream of winning the title and becoming champions? England was also playing for the title and they played better cricket and deserve this title.  Smiley  They held their emotions in this big match and were well rewarded.
Pakistanis and Indians are very emotional by nature and they are crazy about cricket too - there is no doubt about it.
But loosing the match is very heartbreaking incident for Pakistani fan but they are happy at least their team came so far.
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