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February 10, 2023, 09:21:40 PM
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Politics have destroyed the true cricket spirit between Pakistan and India and they have literally killed yhe energy of all the cricket fans which is millions of them.
Although Pakistan cricket board is not as big and strong as India but Pakistan team is a strong and established team in terms of their game and quality .
I don't think this is happening around the world mostly sports authorities are settling things on table and not involving politics into sports which is good positive development happening like we have in African and South American region mostly they are fixing their problems on table and not bringing sports into this all but sadly here in subcontinent things are never been ideal for this all, and we have big breaks into sports events and just because of this we are losing spirit of the game with quality as well as few decades back India and Pakistan were ruling the world in field hockey, but now they are not near the best and Pakistan fail to qualify for the world cup and India is ending with 9th spot even they were hosted country.

Even in cricket we have no same results but still we can do much better things which can create good positive trends in many ways but no one want to take any positive change just because of this situation is going to be the worst day by day.

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February 10, 2023, 10:58:57 PM
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Politics have destroyed the true cricket spirit between Pakistan and India and they have literally killed yhe energy of all the cricket fans which is millions of them.
Although Pakistan cricket board is not as big and strong as India but Pakistan team is a strong and established team in terms of their game and quality .

It is true that we can't let politics to mix up with sports. When this happens, automatically things will take different dimension. Almost in each and every country we can see this happening. With India and Pakistan it is seen a level high. According to me what is happening with India and Pakistan doesn't seem to be wrong, because already there is political issues and border conflicts. So, whether it is India to Pakistan or Pakistan to India both need to be handled in a much safer way.

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February 11, 2023, 02:39:15 AM
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Anyone watching the European Cricket T10 tournament, some of the matches looked like fixed ones, the reason i said so is because, i placed a bet on a match between Gozo and Msida Warriors and when i placed the bet Msida was on a winning position as they had plenty of wickets to spare and enough balls and they started to defend rather than rotating the strike and in the final over, first ball went for a six and the rest of the 5 balls Msida Warriors lost 5 wickets and all they need was a single run to win the match and the match ended in a tie and by Golden Ball rule Gozo was adjudged the winner Roll Eyes.

The odds for Gozo to win were off the roof and they somehow magically won in the end, after this i started to watch the rest of the matches and most of them are fishy, the heavy underdog during live bets magically wins in the end .

Matches involving the so called "European" clubs have been under radar for some time. Match fixing was reported at least a dozen times in the last 2 years or so, and I won't be surprised if that was the case on this occasion. The ICC needs to be blamed. In order to give a false perception that cricket is expanding, they made a mockery of eligibility laws and allowed foreigners on tourist visas to represent the national teams in Europe. Asian and African teams with native players are sidelined and fund allocation is being reduced, but the ICC continues to provide big funding to these foreigner teams. Since the players are not the citizens of that particular country, they don't have any motive to play fairly. The only motive is to earn money and now that is evident in these club matches (apart from the national team matches). ICC should be happy. They got guys who are equally greedy about making money.

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February 11, 2023, 03:38:53 PM
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Anyone watching the European Cricket T10 tournament, some of the matches looked like fixed ones, the reason i said so is because, i placed a bet on a match between Gozo and Msida Warriors and when i placed the bet Msida was on a winning position as they had plenty of wickets to spare and enough balls and they started to defend rather than rotating the strike and in the final over, first ball went for a six and the rest of the 5 balls Msida Warriors lost 5 wickets and all they need was a single run to win the match and the match ended in a tie and by Golden Ball rule Gozo was adjudged the winner Roll Eyes.
The odds for Gozo to win were off the roof and they somehow magically won in the end, after this i started to watch the rest of the matches and most of them are fishy, the heavy underdog during live bets magically wins in the end .
Matches involving the so called "European" clubs have been under radar for some time. Match fixing was reported at least a dozen times in the last 2 years or so, and I won't be surprised if that was the case on this occasion. The ICC needs to be blamed. In order to give a false perception that cricket is expanding, they made a mockery of eligibility laws and allowed foreigners on tourist visas to represent the national teams in Europe. Asian and African teams with native players are sidelined and fund allocation is being reduced, but the ICC continues to provide big funding to these foreigner teams. Since the players are not the citizens of that particular country, they don't have any motive to play fairly. The only motive is to earn money and now that is evident in these club matches (apart from the national team matches). ICC should be happy. They got guys who are equally greedy about making money.

Actually, these types of matches can be fixed. And a lot of people generally do not follow this European club competition in cricket closely. That's why it is actually easier for a lot of clubs to actually get away with a lot of match-fixing. And not only clubs but a lot of players and umpires are also included in this. And of course, they do not have the motive to play fair cricket. They know very well that they are not going to be a part of any legacy. That's why they just try to make the most money out of it.

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February 12, 2023, 08:19:54 AM
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Anyone watching the European Cricket T10 tournament, some of the matches looked like fixed ones, the reason i said so is because, i placed a bet on a match between Gozo and Msida Warriors and when i placed the bet Msida was on a winning position as they had plenty of wickets to spare and enough balls and they started to defend rather than rotating the strike and in the final over, first ball went for a six and the rest of the 5 balls Msida Warriors lost 5 wickets and all they need was a single run to win the match and the match ended in a tie and by Golden Ball rule Gozo was adjudged the winner Roll Eyes.
The odds for Gozo to win were off the roof and they somehow magically won in the end, after this i started to watch the rest of the matches and most of them are fishy, the heavy underdog during live bets magically wins in the end .
Matches involving the so called "European" clubs have been under radar for some time. Match fixing was reported at least a dozen times in the last 2 years or so, and I won't be surprised if that was the case on this occasion. The ICC needs to be blamed. In order to give a false perception that cricket is expanding, they made a mockery of eligibility laws and allowed foreigners on tourist visas to represent the national teams in Europe. Asian and African teams with native players are sidelined and fund allocation is being reduced, but the ICC continues to provide big funding to these foreigner teams. Since the players are not the citizens of that particular country, they don't have any motive to play fairly. The only motive is to earn money and now that is evident in these club matches (apart from the national team matches). ICC should be happy. They got guys who are equally greedy about making money.

Actually, these types of matches can be fixed. And a lot of people generally do not follow this European club competition in cricket closely. That's why it is actually easier for a lot of clubs to actually get away with a lot of match-fixing. And not only clubs but a lot of players and umpires are also included in this. And of course, they do not have the motive to play fair cricket. They know very well that they are not going to be a part of any legacy. That's why they just try to make the most money out of it.

Heard about this European league cricket for the first time and if they needed 1 run on 5 balls and Still they couldn't make it than a blind  can tell that the match is fixed as its humanly impossible to not score 1 run in last over.

Things like this can happen in small tournaments as no check and balance is there , they are not accountable for their actions.

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Heard about this European league cricket for the first time and if they needed 1 run on 5 balls and Still they couldn't make it than a blind  can tell that the match is fixed as its humanly impossible to not score 1 run in last over.

Things like this can happen in small tournaments as no check and balance is there , they are not accountable for their actions.

I really don't know why the Sportsbooks want to allow betting on these matches, where there is no oversight from the ICC or the law enforcement authorities. Cricket already has a match fixing problem and these little known leagues make it much worse than it should actually be. Here is one of the recent examples:

https://emergingcricket.com/news/limassol-gladiators-excluded-from-european-cricket-series-cyprus-in-match-fixing-probe/

The European Cricket Network (ECN) claims to have formed an anti-corruption unit to look in to the match fixing allegations, but I am noticing very little improvement. Irrespective of whether there is improvement or not, I would urge everyone to stay out from making bets on these matches. BTW, check this article as well:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/jaipur/two-arrested-as-police-bust-cricket-betting-ring/articleshow/76882916.cms?from=mdr

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I really don't know why the Sportsbooks want to allow betting on these matches, where there is no oversight from the ICC or the law enforcement authorities. Cricket already has a match fixing problem and these little known leagues make it much worse than it should actually be. Here is one of the recent examples:

https://emergingcricket.com/news/limassol-gladiators-excluded-from-european-cricket-series-cyprus-in-match-fixing-probe/

The European Cricket Network (ECN) claims to have formed an anti-corruption unit to look in to the match fixing allegations, but I am noticing very little improvement. Irrespective of whether there is improvement or not, I would urge everyone to stay out from making bets on these matches. BTW, check this article as well:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/jaipur/two-arrested-as-police-bust-cricket-betting-ring/articleshow/76882916.cms?from=mdr
Sportsbooks don't always research markets thoroughly before adding them leading to losses for them after which they quickly terminate those markets. This logic applies to literally every sport out there.

Also, some of these boards themselves are involved in corruption scandals. Match-fixing will never completely go away, but it is decreasing slowly over time in all sports.

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February 22, 2023, 07:43:50 AM
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I really don't know why the Sportsbooks want to allow betting on these matches, where there is no oversight from the ICC or the law enforcement authorities. Cricket already has a match fixing problem and these little known leagues make it much worse than it should actually be. Here is one of the recent examples:

https://emergingcricket.com/news/limassol-gladiators-excluded-from-european-cricket-series-cyprus-in-match-fixing-probe/

The European Cricket Network (ECN) claims to have formed an anti-corruption unit to look in to the match fixing allegations, but I am noticing very little improvement. Irrespective of whether there is improvement or not, I would urge everyone to stay out from making bets on these matches. BTW, check this article as well:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/jaipur/two-arrested-as-police-bust-cricket-betting-ring/articleshow/76882916.cms?from=mdr
Sportsbooks don't always research markets thoroughly before adding them leading to losses for them after which they quickly terminate those markets. This logic applies to literally every sport out there.

Also, some of these boards themselves are involved in corruption scandals. Match-fixing will never completely go away, but it is decreasing slowly over time in all sports.

@Sithara007 one reason I can cite is demand from their existing user base, because if they fail to add these wagering opportunities then there’s a high chance that they could lose their user base to other sports book who provide these kind of wagering opportunities. Furthermore in case you’ll see any popular sportsbook here having these kind of suspicious matches listed on their site, then try and reach out to the owner here as they can swiftly remove these matches from their sites.
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February 22, 2023, 11:08:30 AM
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I really don't know why the Sportsbooks want to allow betting on these matches, where there is no oversight from the ICC or the law enforcement authorities. Cricket already has a match fixing problem and these little known leagues make it much worse than it should actually be. Here is one of the recent examples:

https://emergingcricket.com/news/limassol-gladiators-excluded-from-european-cricket-series-cyprus-in-match-fixing-probe/

The European Cricket Network (ECN) claims to have formed an anti-corruption unit to look in to the match fixing allegations, but I am noticing very little improvement. Irrespective of whether there is improvement or not, I would urge everyone to stay out from making bets on these matches. BTW, check this article as well:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/jaipur/two-arrested-as-police-bust-cricket-betting-ring/articleshow/76882916.cms?from=mdr
Sportsbooks don't always research markets thoroughly before adding them leading to losses for them after which they quickly terminate those markets. This logic applies to literally every sport out there.

Also, some of these boards themselves are involved in corruption scandals. Match-fixing will never completely go away, but it is decreasing slowly over time in all sports.
Some gamblers thought that match fixing may be reduced in the near future but I think it is unlikely. It will continue as it is and gamblers will have to manage their gambling through it. Those involved in match-fixing are not ordinary gamblers and will not associate with ordinary people. Moreover, those who engage in activities such as fixing match usually do so in association with the help of sportsbooks.

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Some gamblers thought that match fixing may be reduced in the near future but I think it is unlikely. It will continue as it is and gamblers will have to manage their gambling through it. Those involved in match-fixing are not ordinary gamblers and will not associate with ordinary people. Moreover, those who engage in activities such as fixing match usually do so in association with the help of sportsbooks.

If some stupid politician or administrator thinks that he can ban things such as gambling, porn and prostitution, then he is completely out of touch with the reality. These services have existed since time immemorial. The only viable way to move forward with sports gambling is to completely legalize it. If you criminalize sports gambling, then you are pushing it underground and increasing the involvement of the criminals. If gambling is completely legal, then incidents of match fixing will go down substantially.

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February 22, 2023, 07:04:52 PM
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Some gamblers thought that match fixing may be reduced in the near future but I think it is unlikely. It will continue as it is and gamblers will have to manage their gambling through it. Those involved in match-fixing are not ordinary gamblers and will not associate with ordinary people. Moreover, those who engage in activities such as fixing match usually do so in association with the help of sportsbooks.
If some stupid politician or administrator thinks that he can ban things such as gambling, porn and prostitution, then he is completely out of touch with the reality. These services have existed since time immemorial. The only viable way to move forward with sports gambling is to completely legalize it. If you criminalize sports gambling, then you are pushing it underground and increasing the involvement of the criminals. If gambling is completely legal, then incidents of match fixing will go down substantially.
I agreed about this all here because now reality is open, and law enforcement agencies are not powerful like these mafias, and they are having all resources for controlling things by their own but here we can do some things for having better results from these gambling sites just their investment which will help for having better transparency and technology and with this increased salaries and bonuses for the players which will also encourage them for having better performance and better results without any fault play like we have in soccer.

Criminalize sports betting is never been ideal thing just bring them in legal framework and having better things from this all which is not bad at all because in few countries they try to ban but completely fail and also having side effects as well which is surely not good for the sports and players as well.

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February 22, 2023, 07:07:34 PM
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Some gamblers thought that match fixing may be reduced in the near future but I think it is unlikely. It will continue as it is and gamblers will have to manage their gambling through it. Those involved in match-fixing are not ordinary gamblers and will not associate with ordinary people. Moreover, those who engage in activities such as fixing match usually do so in association with the help of sportsbooks.
If some stupid politician or administrator thinks that he can ban things such as gambling, porn and prostitution, then he is completely out of touch with the reality. These services have existed since time immemorial. The only viable way to move forward with sports gambling is to completely legalize it. If you criminalize sports gambling, then you are pushing it underground and increasing the involvement of the criminals. If gambling is completely legal, then incidents of match fixing will go down substantially.

I actually agree with Sithara007 that betting might actually reduce the chance of match fixing. Because the bookies are getting the money and the kick out of betting already. But the thing is I think neither option is going to be 100% safe. Removing the option to place a bet might inspire people to try match fixing. But that is something that can also be done with the presence of legal betting. Even if gambling is legal, there will be a certain set of hierarchy.

In the current modern world, it is almost impossible to remove batting or gambling. So the best thing is going to be making it legal and trying to exploit the positives of it.

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February 23, 2023, 10:42:29 AM
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I actually agree with Sithara007 that betting might actually reduce the chance of match fixing. Because the bookies are getting the money and the kick out of betting already. But the thing is I think neither option is going to be 100% safe. Removing the option to place a bet might inspire people to try match fixing. But that is something that can also be done with the presence of legal betting. Even if gambling is legal, there will be a certain set of hierarchy.

In the current modern world, it is almost impossible to remove batting or gambling. So the best thing is going to be making it legal and trying to exploit the positives of it.

When you ban something, actually there will be an urge to indulge in it. We all remember the IPL betting scandal that happened way back in 2013. Sreesanth, Ajit Chandila and Ankeet Chavan were arrested back then. And then two of the franchise owners (Gurunath Meiyappan from Chennai Super Kings and Raj Kundra from Rajasthan Royals) were found guilty of association with bookies. These incidents came to light by chance. 99% of the time, these activities never get revealed. Gambling is a big curse on cricket, and things are not going to change anytime soon.

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February 23, 2023, 12:04:02 PM
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Some gamblers thought that match fixing may be reduced in the near future but I think it is unlikely. It will continue as it is and gamblers will have to manage their gambling through it. Those involved in match-fixing are not ordinary gamblers and will not associate with ordinary people. Moreover, those who engage in activities such as fixing match usually do so in association with the help of sportsbooks.
If some stupid politician or administrator thinks that he can ban things such as gambling, porn and prostitution, then he is completely out of touch with the reality. These services have existed since time immemorial. The only viable way to move forward with sports gambling is to completely legalize it. If you criminalize sports gambling, then you are pushing it underground and increasing the involvement of the criminals. If gambling is completely legal, then incidents of match fixing will go down substantially.

I actually agree with Sithara007 that betting might actually reduce the chance of match fixing. Because the bookies are getting the money and the kick out of betting already. But the thing is I think neither option is going to be 100% safe. Removing the option to place a bet might inspire people to try match fixing. But that is something that can also be done with the presence of legal betting. Even if gambling is legal, there will be a certain set of hierarchy.

In the current modern world, it is almost impossible to remove batting or gambling. So the best thing is going to be making it legal and trying to exploit the positives of it.

Betting can be legalised but match fixing is something different  , those who are addicted to cricket are automatically addicted to gambling and betting so no use of stopping that because whatever the laws are people will indulge in this activity which is their hobby.
Match fixing should be checked as that's unfair for teams.

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February 23, 2023, 01:35:50 PM
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I actually agree with Sithara007 that betting might actually reduce the chance of match fixing. Because the bookies are getting the money and the kick out of betting already. But the thing is I think neither option is going to be 100% safe. Removing the option to place a bet might inspire people to try match fixing. But that is something that can also be done with the presence of legal betting. Even if gambling is legal, there will be a certain set of hierarchy.
In the current modern world, it is almost impossible to remove batting or gambling. So the best thing is going to be making it legal and trying to exploit the positives of it.
When you ban something, actually there will be an urge to indulge in it. We all remember the IPL betting scandal that happened way back in 2013. Sreesanth, Ajit Chandila and Ankeet Chavan were arrested back then. And then two of the franchise owners (Gurunath Meiyappan from Chennai Super Kings and Raj Kundra from Rajasthan Royals) were found guilty of association with bookies. These incidents came to light by chance. 99% of the time, these activities never get revealed. Gambling is a big curse on cricket, and things are not going to change anytime soon.

I understand that gambling is a curse and it is not going to change anytime soon. But at the same time, if it is banned, people will try to actually do it illegally. That is going to cause a lot more problems compared to if betting is actually legal. And there are a lot of illegal things going on almost everywhere. And I absolutely agree with you that most of them does not even come to light. Actually, I cannot take any sides here. Because we live in a time when gambling is not going to stop. And as long as gambling is there, there will be certain types of illegal things happening. Doesn't matter if gambling is legal or illegal.


Betting can be legalised but match fixing is something different  , those who are addicted to cricket are automatically addicted to gambling and betting so no use of stopping that because whatever the laws are people will indulge in this activity which is their hobby.
Match fixing should be checked as that's unfair for teams.

There is a very high chance of betting being made illegal, match fixing will increase. Because the bookies are not going to be able to find the money legally that they got from betting. So they are going to push toward match fixing.
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There is a very high chance of betting being made illegal, match fixing will increase. Because the bookies are not going to be able to find the money legally that they got from betting. So they are going to push toward match fixing.
Match fixing is possible in lower leagues but in the top leagues where the players earn huge compensation, it is highly unlikely that players would be willing to risk their career for some pocket change because once you are caught you get a blanket ban on competing again. In Cricket we saw some scandals in the past and all of those players were banned and with the money involved right now, none of the players would risk that and jeopardize their career.
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There is a very high chance of betting being made illegal, match fixing will increase. Because the bookies are not going to be able to find the money legally that they got from betting. So they are going to push toward match fixing.
Match fixing is possible in lower leagues but in the top leagues where the players earn huge compensation, it is highly unlikely that players would be willing to risk their career for some pocket change because once you are caught you get a blanket ban on competing again. In Cricket we saw some scandals in the past and all of those players were banned and with the money involved right now, none of the players would risk that and jeopardize their career.
I would like to agree with you in this point that match fixing is unlikely in most international leagues.  Because in the past days it has been seen that many players have been involved in it which has ruined their careers. But I also don't think match fixing has gone away completely, it still exists but much less than before. But monitoring the players can save the team from this situation


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February 23, 2023, 09:05:18 PM
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There is a very high chance of betting being made illegal, match fixing will increase. Because the bookies are not going to be able to find the money legally that they got from betting. So they are going to push toward match fixing.
Match fixing is possible in lower leagues but in the top leagues where the players earn huge compensation, it is highly unlikely that players would be willing to risk their career for some pocket change because once you are caught you get a blanket ban on competing again. In Cricket we saw some scandals in the past and all of those players were banned and with the money involved right now, none of the players would risk that and jeopardize their career.
I would like to agree with you in this point that match fixing is unlikely in most international leagues.  Because in the past days it has been seen that many players have been involved in it which has ruined their careers. But I also don't think match fixing has gone away completely, it still exists but much less than before. But monitoring the players can save the team from this situation
Match fixing is almost Nil in my view. Because of the punishment given to the players caught into match fixing have made the cricketers not to think of it. Even in the lower leagues it is very low, because every team wants to reach the next level. Losing matches for money would surely downline the team and the same could affect players. Even now there are ball tampering and other tricks followed, which isn't easily found.

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February 24, 2023, 01:31:26 AM
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Match fixing is possible in lower leagues but in the top leagues where the players earn huge compensation, it is highly unlikely that players would be willing to risk their career for some pocket change because once you are caught you get a blanket ban on competing again. In Cricket we saw some scandals in the past and all of those players were banned and with the money involved right now, none of the players would risk that and jeopardize their career.

You never know. Back in 2013, two of the franchise owners themselves were getting involved in betting. And they bet in matches involving their respective teams. Now what is the guarantee that there will be no pressure on the players to underperform, so that the management can earn some profits through gambling? The BCCI swept this issue under the carpet, because one of the accused was the son-in-law of mafia don N Srinivasan and back then the Srinivasan-Pawar mafia had complete control of the BCCI.

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February 24, 2023, 02:36:06 PM
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Match fixing is almost Nil in my view. Because of the punishment given to the players caught into match fixing have made the cricketers not to think of it. Even in the lower leagues it is very low, because every team wants to reach the next level. Losing matches for money would surely downline the team and the same could affect players. Even now there are ball tampering and other tricks followed, which isn't easily found.
Nil? I disagree. Mafia gangs are still fixing certain bets in matches across different formats though their profits have definitely decreased over time due to their methods getting exposed to the public.

I don't think match fixing will ever completely go away, but I hope it continues decreasing over time in all sports.

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