Cricket match prediction discussions

[darewaller]

Small boards can't go together as many having their interests related to pig-4 specially like we know WICB and CSA never go against them as with this all others have never any worth because mostly are never been work as unit they could be stayed like this until we have any revolutionary change from inside this all mafia which is strong and doing this all and nomination of person like Barclay is mostly happened just with the help of inside politics.

This is what happens when short-term gains get a higher priority over long term benefits. Boards such as BCCI and CA doesn't intend to give special treatment to either WICB or CSA. Once they are able to achieve their motive, with respect to funding and other aspects they will refuse to co-operate with the West Indian and South African boards. Eventually the funding for weaker nations will be reduced further. The aim of the pig-4 is to make richer boards even more rich and keep the poorer boards poor. CSA and WICB allying with the pig-4 will backfire on them in the near future.

As BCCI and CSA doing things like these never work for long time even right now they are taking good advantage and having their own interests with the help of these two puppets boards, but surely they are doing like traitors for the other weaker boards, and they will also have to face consequences for the as well because right now situation in WICB is not good as they are down and out from all formats and CSA is somehow better but still they need to work for the overall cricket development instead of working for just two or three boards those can kick them any time after having their all targets.

But, here we have few sad facts no other board or unit having any strength to work for the development of the game like BCB, SLCB and PCB if they try to have unit then surely things can change and few other small boards can also follow them but here no one having mindset for this all mostly living as white elephant.

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[Sithara007]

^^^ I gave the example of WICB and CSA, because these are the two boards who collaborate with the BCCI more often. But that doesn't mean that the boards such as BCB and SLCB hasn't made deals with the BCCI in the past. As long as the smaller boards remain divided, that much easier it will be for the pig-4 to push forward with their agenda. They are resorting to backdoor means to get control of the ICC. This was very evident during the election of associate representative, when one of the slots went to a BCCI proxy. Previously all three associate representatives were opposed to the pig-4, but last year during the elections the pig-4 managed to get Pankaj Khimji of Oman elected (defeating Mahinda Vallipuram). Khimji is a well known supporter of pig-4. See the irony. Associate representative will now support the policies of pig-4, which intends to reduce associate funding to zero. Lower ranking test nations, as well as associates are divided.

[Juggy777]

^^^ I gave the example of WICB and CSA, because these are the two boards who collaborate with the BCCI more often. But that doesn't mean that the boards such as BCB and SLCB hasn't made deals with the BCCI in the past. As long as the smaller boards remain divided, that much easier it will be for the pig-4 to push forward with their agenda. They are resorting to backdoor means to get control of the ICC. This was very evident during the election of associate representative, when one of the slots went to a BCCI proxy. Previously all three associate representatives were opposed to the pig-4, but last year during the elections the pig-4 managed to get Pankaj Khimji of Oman elected (defeating Mahinda Vallipuram). Khimji is a well known supporter of pig-4. See the irony. Associate representative will now support the policies of pig-4, which intends to reduce associate funding to zero. Lower ranking test nations, as well as associates are divided.

@Sithara007 the gulf between these boards and BCCI is too huge to fill, and that’s why they don’t oppose BCCI and end up making deals. Furthermore even if they’re aware that they could suffer in the long term they’ll yet support BCCI, because they know that to survive in this sport they need BCCI to be on their side and hence they’ll do everything directly or indirectly to always please BCCI.

[Sithara007]

@Sithara007 the gulf between these boards and BCCI is too huge to fill, and that’s why they don’t oppose BCCI and end up making deals. Furthermore even if they’re aware that they could suffer in the long term they’ll yet support BCCI, because they know that to survive in this sport they need BCCI to be on their side and hence they’ll do everything directly or indirectly to always please BCCI.

Deals may work in the short term. But in the long term it will result in enormous losses. No one gives respect to weak people. In the next funding cycle (2024-31), I am sure that the pig-4 will push to increase their share of revenues from the ICC funds. CSA and WICB will once more side with the pig-4 in return for a couple of bilateral tours. But any benefit from these bilateral tours will quickly evaporate when they start receiving reduced share from the ICC. And then the other smaller boards are not going to help them as well.

[jostorres]

@Sithara007 the gulf between these boards and BCCI is too huge to fill, and that’s why they don’t oppose BCCI and end up making deals. Furthermore even if they’re aware that they could suffer in the long term they’ll yet support BCCI, because they know that to survive in this sport they need BCCI to be on their side and hence they’ll do everything directly or indirectly to always please BCCI.

Deals may work in the short term. But in the long term it will result in enormous losses. No one gives respect to weak people. In the next funding cycle (2024-31), I am sure that the pig-4 will push to increase their share of revenues from the ICC funds. CSA and WICB will once more side with the pig-4 in return for a couple of bilateral tours. But any benefit from these bilateral tours will quickly evaporate when they start receiving reduced share from the ICC. And then the other smaller boards are not going to help them as well.

Really now I am fed up with this all situation in ICC because they are never been lover of the cricket they are doing things just for their own sack and more profit in their deep pockets which is never been good for any game even here these four are very strong and have no soft corner for the weaker boards and using them for as they need, it's all going for long time and no one going to change this all because we have no better solution or any suitable replacement for this system which is the worst thing happening for long time.

But I have one thing in mind if we have few boards unity like we have in European Union for their own better future then surely things can change here, but this all is not easy because we are living in subcontinent not in European Union where peoples love to talk on tables and have better solutions of their problems.

[BobK71]

@Sithara007 the gulf between these boards and BCCI is too huge to fill, and that’s why they don’t oppose BCCI and end up making deals. Furthermore even if they’re aware that they could suffer in the long term they’ll yet support BCCI, because they know that to survive in this sport they need BCCI to be on their side and hence they’ll do everything directly or indirectly to always please BCCI.

Deals may work in the short term. But in the long term it will result in enormous losses. No one gives respect to weak people. In the next funding cycle (2024-31), I am sure that the pig-4 will push to increase their share of revenues from the ICC funds. CSA and WICB will once more side with the pig-4 in return for a couple of bilateral tours. But any benefit from these bilateral tours will quickly evaporate when they start receiving reduced share from the ICC. And then the other smaller boards are not going to help them as well.

But I have one thing in mind if we have few boards unity like we have in European Union for their own better future then surely things can change here, but this all is not easy because we are living in subcontinent not in European Union where peoples love to talk on tables and have better solutions of their problems.

This is possible because cricket is still in a small phase. If it had spread, some countries would not have been able to establish a position very easily. There are few country's people who conducting the organization ICC where a small group of members get the membership, the regulations are easily approved. Which might not have been possible in Europe. Cricket would have been at a much better level if we had kept our eyes on the cricket instead of the bag. But there is no benefit in discussing the issue. I think it's just an expression of anger.

[Tony116]

If the other boards want to take on the pig-4, then they can do that. But they are always disunited. Out of the 17 voting members of the ICC, the pig-4 controls only 7 votes (India, Australia, England, New Zealand, Oman and the two independent votes). In order to get to a majority, they need at least 9 votes. And they always reach this figure. When it comes to voting, smaller boards such as WICB and SLCB always side with the pig-4. And then they complain that their voices are not being heard.
When Tavengwa Mukuhlani of Zimbabwe Cricket was planning to contest against Greg Barclay a few month back, hardly any of the full members supported him. As a result, once again the pig-4 nominee (Barclay) was elected as the chairman of the ICC.

That happens because Pig4 generally shows the smaller boards a lot of dreams. They promise smaller boards one or two tours. That's what generally gets the smaller boards to do whatever they are told. That's how the pig4 is still a thing.

With this all one thing is clear these pig-4 wants to control game of cricket as mafia and in their presence we never have any positive change or development in this game because they are controlling this all just for their own interests, and they have no mind to do things to spread this game around the globe and increase the fan base and other marketing things which help for rising funds and increase profit of the ICC.
Small boards can't go together as many having their interests related to pig-4 specially like we know WICB and CSA never go against them as with this all others have never any worth because mostly are never been work as unit they could be stayed like this until we have any revolutionary change from inside this all mafia which is strong and doing this all and nomination of person like Barclay is mostly happened just with the help of inside politics.

The thing is, money controls everything. And Pig 4 got a lot of money. So they can easily manipulate anything they want. So it is really easy for them to through some money towards the smaller cricket boards, or promise them a tour here and there. That generally does the trick. We all know that smaller boards get good exposure when they play against bigger boards. So they cannot refuse as well.

[doomloop]

With this all one thing is clear these pig-4 wants to control game of cricket as mafia and in their presence we never have any positive change or development in this game because they are controlling this all just for their own interests, and they have no mind to do things to spread this game around the globe and increase the fan base and other marketing things which help for rising funds and increase profit of the ICC.
Small boards can't go together as many having their interests related to pig-4 specially like we know WICB and CSA never go against them as with this all others have never any worth because mostly are never been work as unit they could be stayed like this until we have any revolutionary change from inside this all mafia which is strong and doing this all and nomination of person like Barclay is mostly happened just with the help of inside politics.

The thing is, money controls everything. And Pig 4 got a lot of money. So they can easily manipulate anything they want. So it is really easy for them to through some money towards the smaller cricket boards, or promise them a tour here and there. That generally does the trick. We all know that smaller boards get good exposure when they play against bigger boards. So they cannot refuse as well.

I totally agree with you this all is just because of the money power, and they never allow others to live freely because this is not in their favor and with this all things are going more disgusting for the rule of fair play as we have no other sport authority which is doing things like this while they are having much better exposure and biggest markets as well.

Colonial mind set is still running here and first Australia and England were hold things for their own sack, and they never allow any other to have anything positive for the sack of this game, and now they have India which is taking good advantage of its biggest market in cricket, but I have good and positive hopes for this game as I am the real lover of cricket and want better and supportive things will happen, and all teams take good advantage of this all.

[KennyR]

With this all one thing is clear these pig-4 wants to control game of cricket as mafia and in their presence we never have any positive change or development in this game because they are controlling this all just for their own interests, and they have no mind to do things to spread this game around the globe and increase the fan base and other marketing things which help for rising funds and increase profit of the ICC.
Small boards can't go together as many having their interests related to pig-4 specially like we know WICB and CSA never go against them as with this all others have never any worth because mostly are never been work as unit they could be stayed like this until we have any revolutionary change from inside this all mafia which is strong and doing this all and nomination of person like Barclay is mostly happened just with the help of inside politics.

The thing is, money controls everything. And Pig 4 got a lot of money. So they can easily manipulate anything they want. So it is really easy for them to through some money towards the smaller cricket boards, or promise them a tour here and there. That generally does the trick. We all know that smaller boards get good exposure when they play against bigger boards. So they cannot refuse as well.

I totally agree with you this all is just because of the money power, and they never allow others to live freely because this is not in their favor and with this all things are going more disgusting for the rule of fair play as we have no other sport authority which is doing things like this while they are having much better exposure and biggest markets as well.

Colonial mind set is still running here and first Australia and England were hold things for their own sack, and they never allow any other to have anything positive for the sack of this game, and now they have India which is taking good advantage of its biggest market in cricket, but I have good and positive hopes for this game as I am the real lover of cricket and want better and supportive things will happen, and all teams take good advantage of this all.

We can hope for the better things to happen. I'm sure this lasts for long as four boards are involved in the power holding. If its a single board that holds power, then rest of the boards can get united and raise voice against the monopoly. Here scenario is completely different, we won't be able to see boards unit same as the four. Even if such scenario exists, surely something will be done to collapse them. Whether more teams getting into it or not, these four gonna rule cricket for long years.

[Sithara007]

I thought that it will be good to give an update on the Nepal tour by Pakistani cricketer Mohammad Rizwan.

https://cricketpakistan.com.pk/en/news/detail/mohammad-rizwan-meets-rape-accused-sandeep-lamichhane

The main purpose of the visit was to meet Chatur Bahadur Chand, who is the president of the Cricket Association of Nepal (CAN), in order to discuss the growth of cricket in Nepal. In addition to that he also met several members of the Nepal national cricket team, including Sandeep Lamichhane. But his visit got overshadowed by the controversy surrounding  Lamichhane. Rizwan's fans are enraged, as they are saying that he should not have met Lamichhane before the court exonerates him from the rape charges.

But all the controversy apart, it is great to see at least one full member nation supporting the associate nations. PCB has always taken a sympathetic view towards the associate members, and they have provided great support for the tier-2 test nations as well (Ireland, Afghanistan and Zimbabwe). Recently the Irish women's team toured Pakistan for a successful bilateral series.

[savetheFORUM]

This is possible because cricket is still in a small phase. If it had spread, some countries would not have been able to establish a position very easily. There are few country's people who conducting the organization ICC where a small group of members get the membership, the regulations are easily approved. Which might not have been possible in Europe. Cricket would have been at a much better level if we had kept our eyes on the cricket instead of the bag. But there is no benefit in discussing the issue. I think it's just an expression of anger.

I have feeling Africa and Asia is going to be much better for cricket but here we need few good and positive changes which are not possible with the leadership of India because right now they have feeling they are the biggest market, and they deserve VIP status, and they can do anything with no other allow to stand against them which is surely poor thinking but still we have few good markets even these all combined can't stand against them but still they can do better things for their future and this all will also expose the hold of pig-4 as well which is important for the development of the cricket specially while we have Olympics case India is the biggest hurdle in this all which is not good, and I have felt all others need to force for this because this will bring better results for them as well.

[Emitdama]

We can hope for the better things to happen. I'm sure this lasts for long as four boards are involved in the power holding. If its a single board that holds power, then rest of the boards can get united and raise voice against the monopoly. Here scenario is completely different, we won't be able to see boards unit same as the four. Even if such scenario exists, surely something will be done to collapse them. Whether more teams getting into it or not, these four gonna rule cricket for long years.

No doubt things never exist for long time and changes happen as well here things will be change like right now franchise leagues are developing, and many countries are working on this all if able to have better sponsors and media right's income increase then surely dependence on ICC will be also change and countries will be able to do things for their own sack.
 
I believe now few countries need to scrape idea of ODI and just work on shorter format because this will be helpful and give them better things for their future right now we have just 10 or 11 countries with test status, but all are not involved and few are going down badly with recently we have big decline in ODI as well which is also good for the associate countries because with this all now they are able to work on just one format and this will be brought big changes in this all setup.

[BobK71]

This is possible because cricket is still in a small phase. If it had spread, some countries would not have been able to establish a position very easily. There are few country's people who conducting the organization ICC where a small group of members get the membership, the regulations are easily approved. Which might not have been possible in Europe. Cricket would have been at a much better level if we had kept our eyes on the cricket instead of the bag. But there is no benefit in discussing the issue. I think it's just an expression of anger.

I have feeling Africa and Asia is going to be much better for cricket but here we need few good and positive changes which are not possible with the leadership of India because right now they have feeling they are the biggest market, and they deserve VIP status, and they can do anything with no other allow to stand against them which is surely poor thinking but still we have few good markets even these all combined can't stand against them but still they can do better things for their future and this all will also expose the hold of pig-4 as well which is important for the development of the cricket specially while we have Olympics case India is the biggest hurdle in this all which is not good, and I have felt all others need to force for this because this will bring better results for them as well.

As a big market for cricket, India is now at the top of the table and there is no way to ignore it. They have been consistently leading in cricket for a long time. Due to which they deserve to get the VIP status. Moreover, the big income of cricket now revolves around India. But it is right that cricket should be thought of at a more advanced level. Cricket is limited to only a few countries. When it comes to taking cricket on a larger scale, no single country can lead the way.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

I thought that it will be good to give an update on the Nepal tour by Pakistani cricketer Mohammad Rizwan.

https://cricketpakistan.com.pk/en/news/detail/mohammad-rizwan-meets-rape-accused-sandeep-lamichhane

The main purpose of the visit was to meet Chatur Bahadur Chand, who is the president of the Cricket Association of Nepal (CAN), in order to discuss the growth of cricket in Nepal. In addition to that he also met several members of the Nepal national cricket team, including Sandeep Lamichhane. But his visit got overshadowed by the controversy surrounding  Lamichhane. Rizwan's fans are enraged, as they are saying that he should not have met Lamichhane before the court exonerates him from the rape charges.

But all the controversy apart, it is great to see at least one full member nation supporting the associate nations. PCB has always taken a sympathetic view towards the associate members, and they have provided great support for the tier-2 test nations as well (Ireland, Afghanistan and Zimbabwe). Recently the Irish women's team toured Pakistan for a successful bilateral series.

This is a very good step by PCB and Muhammad Rizwan to support associate nations  and help them to grow in cri ket and motivate them for that.
But what's the point to meeting  Sandeep Lamichhane whose rape cases is under court,? And its written in news Rizwan asked to meet him as he cannot leave country and stuff.
Why to make it controversial?

[DanWalker]

I thought that it will be good to give an update on the Nepal tour by Pakistani cricketer Mohammad Rizwan.
https://cricketpakistan.com.pk/en/news/detail/mohammad-rizwan-meets-rape-accused-sandeep-lamichhane

The main purpose of the visit was to meet Chatur Bahadur Chand, who is the president of the Cricket Association of Nepal (CAN), in order to discuss the growth of cricket in Nepal. In addition to that he also met several members of the Nepal national cricket team, including Sandeep Lamichhane. But his visit got overshadowed by the controversy surrounding  Lamichhane. Rizwan's fans are enraged, as they are saying that he should not have met Lamichhane before the court exonerates him from the rape charges.
But all the controversy apart, it is great to see at least one full member nation supporting the associate nations. PCB has always taken a sympathetic view towards the associate members, and they have provided great support for the tier-2 test nations as well (Ireland, Afghanistan and Zimbabwe). Recently the Irish women's team toured Pakistan for a successful bilateral series.

The problem is Pakistan cricket board themselves are not doing very well right now. Anything that they are trying to do are not being received well by anyone, nor the ICC. I think we can say that Pakistan is not a very rich board. That's why they are not favorable of the ICC. But I don't think ICC hates Pakistan cricket board or anything like that.

I believe that ICC wants Pakistan cricket to improve. Because that is going to mean more interesting matches between India and Pakistan. But the biggest obstacle for Pakistan cricket board is their own political situation. Among all these problems it is hard to notice Pakistan supporting and associating country even though they did.

[Sithara007]

This is a very good step by PCB and Muhammad Rizwan to support associate nations  and help them to grow in cri ket and motivate them for that.
But what's the point to meeting  Sandeep Lamichhane whose rape cases is under court,? And its written in news Rizwan asked to meet him as he cannot leave country and stuff.
Why to make it controversial?

The media guys blew it out of proportion. It was a short visit from Rizwan and his purpose was to support the cricket board in Nepal and the players. He met with many of the national squad members, and Lamichhane was one of them. Rizwan didn't wanted to discriminate any player and let's remember that Lamichhane is still not convicted. Let the trial go on, and Lamichhane will be punished by the court if there is enough evidence against him. But at this point, I don't think that it will be fair to sideline him, given his significant contributions to Nepal cricket.

[BobK71]

I thought that it will be good to give an update on the Nepal tour by Pakistani cricketer Mohammad Rizwan.
https://cricketpakistan.com.pk/en/news/detail/mohammad-rizwan-meets-rape-accused-sandeep-lamichhane

The main purpose of the visit was to meet Chatur Bahadur Chand, who is the president of the Cricket Association of Nepal (CAN), in order to discuss the growth of cricket in Nepal. In addition to that he also met several members of the Nepal national cricket team, including Sandeep Lamichhane. But his visit got overshadowed by the controversy surrounding  Lamichhane. Rizwan's fans are enraged, as they are saying that he should not have met Lamichhane before the court exonerates him from the rape charges.
But all the controversy apart, it is great to see at least one full member nation supporting the associate nations. PCB has always taken a sympathetic view towards the associate members, and they have provided great support for the tier-2 test nations as well (Ireland, Afghanistan and Zimbabwe). Recently the Irish women's team toured Pakistan for a successful bilateral series.

The problem is Pakistan cricket board themselves are not doing very well right now. Anything that they are trying to do are not being received well by anyone, nor the ICC. I think we can say that Pakistan is not a very rich board. That's why they are not favorable of the ICC. But I don't think ICC hates Pakistan cricket board or anything like that.

I believe that ICC wants Pakistan cricket to improve. Because that is going to mean more interesting matches between India and Pakistan. But the biggest obstacle for Pakistan cricket board is their own political situation. Among all these problems it is hard to notice Pakistan supporting and associating country even though they did.

Taking political advantage through sports is an abomination. Sports can assert themselves as strong, but being politically driven is an expression of weakness. In India and Pakistan we see that the diplomatic issue is doing the big thing which was very good even two decades ago. Those who are cricket fans always want good relations between Pakistan and India. When Pakistan and India have any match, the world of cricket shakes. Everyone enjoys it and there will be a big market where ICC have the good opportunity to earn big revenue.

[mm2543363580]

I thought that it will be good to give an update on the Nepal tour by Pakistani cricketer Mohammad Rizwan.
https://cricketpakistan.com.pk/en/news/detail/mohammad-rizwan-meets-rape-accused-sandeep-lamichhane

The main purpose of the visit was to meet Chatur Bahadur Chand, who is the president of the Cricket Association of Nepal (CAN), in order to discuss the growth of cricket in Nepal. In addition to that he also met several members of the Nepal national cricket team, including Sandeep Lamichhane. But his visit got overshadowed by the controversy surrounding  Lamichhane. Rizwan's fans are enraged, as they are saying that he should not have met Lamichhane before the court exonerates him from the rape charges.
But all the controversy apart, it is great to see at least one full member nation supporting the associate nations. PCB has always taken a sympathetic view towards the associate members, and they have provided great support for the tier-2 test nations as well (Ireland, Afghanistan and Zimbabwe). Recently the Irish women's team toured Pakistan for a successful bilateral series.

The problem is Pakistan cricket board themselves are not doing very well right now. Anything that they are trying to do are not being received well by anyone, nor the ICC. I think we can say that Pakistan is not a very rich board. That's why they are not favorable of the ICC. But I don't think ICC hates Pakistan cricket board or anything like that.

I believe that ICC wants Pakistan cricket to improve. Because that is going to mean more interesting matches between India and Pakistan. But the biggest obstacle for Pakistan cricket board is their own political situation. Among all these problems it is hard to notice Pakistan supporting and associating country even though they did.

Taking political advantage through sports is an abomination. Sports can assert themselves as strong, but being politically driven is an expression of weakness. In India and Pakistan we see that the diplomatic issue is doing the big thing which was very good even two decades ago. Those who are cricket fans always want good relations between Pakistan and India. When Pakistan and India have any match, the world of cricket shakes. Everyone enjoys it and there will be a big market where ICC have the good opportunity to earn big revenue.

Politics have destroyed the true cricket spirit between Pakistan and India and they have literally killed yhe energy of all the cricket fans which is millions of them.
Although Pakistan cricket board is not as big and strong as India but Pakistan team is a strong and established team in terms of their game and quality .

[DanWalker]

The problem is Pakistan cricket board themselves are not doing very well right now. Anything that they are trying to do are not being received well by anyone, nor the ICC. I think we can say that Pakistan is not a very rich board. That's why they are not favorable of the ICC. But I don't think ICC hates Pakistan cricket board or anything like that.
I believe that ICC wants Pakistan cricket to improve. Because that is going to mean more interesting matches between India and Pakistan. But the biggest obstacle for Pakistan cricket board is their own political situation. Among all these problems it is hard to notice Pakistan supporting and associating country even though they did.

Taking political advantage through sports is an abomination. Sports can assert themselves as strong, but being politically driven is an expression of weakness. In India and Pakistan we see that the diplomatic issue is doing the big thing which was very good even two decades ago. Those who are cricket fans always want good relations between Pakistan and India. When Pakistan and India have any match, the world of cricket shakes. Everyone enjoys it and there will be a big market where ICC have the good opportunity to earn big revenue.

A lot of people do not like the idea that politics is very much attached to sports and vice versa. And politics is also going to have a big effect on sports. But one thing which is rare to see in any other country is that I think no other country actually makes sports and politics so much that they can actually want people that knowledge through sports. But that is something which can be seen in especially India and Pakistan. I know all politics and sports should not be mixed with each other. But that is not going to stop happening. And that's why I believe India has adapted themselves and they are trying to get the advantage and the results in their favor.

[eaLiTy]

Anyone watching the European Cricket T10 tournament, some of the matches looked like fixed ones, the reason i said so is because, i placed a bet on a match between Gozo and Msida Warriors and when i placed the bet Msida was on a winning position as they had plenty of wickets to spare and enough balls and they started to defend rather than rotating the strike and in the final over, first ball went for a six and the rest of the 5 balls Msida Warriors lost 5 wickets and all they need was a single run to win the match and the match ended in a tie and by Golden Ball rule Gozo was adjudged the winner .

The odds for Gozo to win were off the roof and they somehow magically won in the end, after this i started to watch the rest of the matches and most of them are fishy, the heavy underdog during live bets magically wins in the end .