Cricket match prediction discussions

[Sithara007]

Afghanistan, Netherlands and Ireland may soon be joined by teams like Nepal. Those who are not yet aware of Nepal cricket can find a good change if they watch their match. I find Nepal more reliable than other teams like Namibia, Papua New Guinea, United Arab Emirates and some others. Winning 5 matches consistently has boosted their confidence and they have also been appreciated internationally.

Doubtful about Nepal. Their cricket has been on a downward slide ever since 2015. And the reason is very clear. Back in 2015, the ICC reduced funding for the associates by as much as 80%. It didn't had an impact on "rich" boards such as the United Arab Emirates and Oman, but the "poorer" boards such as Nepal were severely impacted. On top of that the ICC implemented a performance based funding system. Teams like the United Arab Emirates immediately recruited former first class players from India and Pakistan. Nepal couldn't afford to do that and they started losing matches. So this 80% decrease became 90% for them.

And I don't have much hope for the next (2024-31) funding cycle as well. The BCCI is demanding a higher share from the ICC, and this may result in further reductions to the associates. On top of that, the BCCI has formed a cabal with middle-east boards such as the United Arab Emirates and Oman, and they are trying to weaken the other associate nations.

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[Vaskiy]

How many teams have got different squad for test and other formats of cricket. Yesterday England team played test match against New Zealand and lost it. Today England team have played against Bangladesh and won the match. This is good, because more players get opportunity to play for the country than just the same team playing every format of cricket.

India can try this kind of different squad for different format of cricket. BCCI have categorised the players on some category and have different salary slab.

[WatChe]

Doubtful about Nepal. Their cricket has been on a downward slide ever since 2015. And the reason is very clear. Back in 2015, the ICC reduced funding for the associates by as much as 80%. It didn't had an impact on "rich" boards such as the United Arab Emirates and Oman, but the "poorer" boards such as Nepal were severely impacted. On top of that the ICC implemented a performance based funding system. Teams like the United Arab Emirates immediately recruited former first class players from India and Pakistan. Nepal couldn't afford to do that and they started losing matches. So this 80% decrease became 90% for them.

And I don't have much hope for the next (2024-31) funding cycle as well. The BCCI is demanding a higher share from the ICC, and this may result in further reductions to the associates. On top of that, the BCCI has formed a cabal with middle-east boards such as the United Arab Emirates and Oman, and they are trying to weaken the other associate nations.

ICC clearly knows that teams like UAE, Oman are purely made up of players from India and Pakistan but they are not bother about that. Its heartbreaking to see teams like Nepal not getting due share from ICC rather boards like BCCI are getting bigger piece of cake. The Big 3 model actually don't want to see new teams coming into cricket ecosystem that's best in there interest. If ICC was interested in expanding cricket to new regions then by now Nepal would be a test team.   

[Minecache]

Doubtful about Nepal. Their cricket has been on a downward slide ever since 2015. And the reason is very clear. Back in 2015, the ICC reduced funding for the associates by as much as 80%. It didn't had an impact on "rich" boards such as the United Arab Emirates and Oman, but the "poorer" boards such as Nepal were severely impacted. On top of that the ICC implemented a performance based funding system. Teams like the United Arab Emirates immediately recruited former first class players from India and Pakistan. Nepal couldn't afford to do that and they started losing matches. So this 80% decrease became 90% for them.

And I don't have much hope for the next (2024-31) funding cycle as well. The BCCI is demanding a higher share from the ICC, and this may result in further reductions to the associates. On top of that, the BCCI has formed a cabal with middle-east boards such as the United Arab Emirates and Oman, and they are trying to weaken the other associate nations.

The problem is that Nepal is not getting to play regularly. And if they are not playing regularly, they will not be able to perform well when it comes to showing people that they can win against bigger opponents. ICC generally does not have too much time allotted for associate nations in 1 calendar year. And I think the lack of play is eventually degrading the performance of the associate nations.

After that comes the funding part. Sometimes I feel like ICC does not even care about the associate nations. Because the funding was going to be very different for the associate nations. Nepal has a lot of talented players. My personal opinion is that ICC can increase the funding for them. But then they will have to increase funding for all the associate nations.

[Ayers]

How many teams have got different squad for test and other formats of cricket. Yesterday England team played test match against New Zealand and lost it. Today England team have played against Bangladesh and won the match. This is good, because more players get opportunity to play for the country than just the same team playing every format of cricket.

India can try this kind of different squad for different format of cricket. BCCI have categorised the players on some category and have different salary slab.

I think the idea of having a different squad or multiple squads is actually very good. Especially for those teams which does have a lot of players. We know that the top teams like India, England, and Australia does have a lot of player waiting for a chance to play. If they have multiple squads, a lot of young players will be able to get the chance of playing and a lot of young talents will also come forward.

Another thing is, having multiple squads is also going to ensure that one country is being able to play in multiple tournaments and also against multiple countries at the same time.

[SirLancelot]

I think the idea of having a different squad or multiple squads is actually very good. Especially for those teams which does have a lot of players. We know that the top teams like India, England, and Australia does have a lot of player waiting for a chance to play. If they have multiple squads, a lot of young players will be able to get the chance of playing and a lot of young talents will also come forward.

Another thing is, having multiple squads is also going to ensure that one country is being able to play in multiple tournaments and also against multiple countries at the same time.

I am also in favor of this system as every board needs to have two teams with one for the WHITEBALL and second for the REDBALL, but sadly this is not affordable for the all boards as mostly have no luxury like India and England about their finances and this all needs good funds and other many things as well which are not easy job specially while ICC is on verge of cutting funding for many countries as India is want big share of the media rights due to ICC having good profit from their market.

With this all most of the things are useless because ICC has never been having any positive interest into this game as they are just having their deep pockets which needs funding, and they just want to have things in their favor which is clearly killing spirit of the game, and we are losing some positive things even right now still cricket is having strong fan base which is good thing, but now it's time for the ICC to act positively and bring few good changes and increase funding of associate countries as well for the better future of this game.

[romero121]

How many teams have got different squad for test and other formats of cricket. Yesterday England team played test match against New Zealand and lost it. Today England team have played against Bangladesh and won the match. This is good, because more players get opportunity to play for the country than just the same team playing every format of cricket.

India can try this kind of different squad for different format of cricket. BCCI have categorised the players on some category and have different salary slab.

I think the idea of having a different squad or multiple squads is actually very good. Especially for those teams which does have a lot of players. We know that the top teams like India, England, and Australia does have a lot of player waiting for a chance to play. If they have multiple squads, a lot of young players will be able to get the chance of playing and a lot of young talents will also come forward.

Another thing is, having multiple squads is also going to ensure that one country is being able to play in multiple tournaments and also against multiple countries at the same time.

Creating space for many players to play against different countries seems to good with the multiple squad. Based on the players availability those mentioned teams can go with this. However playing multiple tournaments in the same schedule doesn't seem to be fair. It'll be simply annoying, because we can't watch either of the match.

[Sithara007]

ICC clearly knows that teams like UAE, Oman are purely made up of players from India and Pakistan but they are not bother about that. Its heartbreaking to see teams like Nepal not getting due share from ICC rather boards like BCCI are getting bigger piece of cake. The Big 3 model actually don't want to see new teams coming into cricket ecosystem that's best in there interest. If ICC was interested in expanding cricket to new regions then by now Nepal would be a test team.   

The reason why the BCCI prefers teams like UAE and Oman are well known. Because they always side with the pig-4 during voting. Teams like Nepal, Scotland and Namibia are very vocal about the poor treatment that is meted out to them and therefore have cold relations with the pig-4. 

After that comes the funding part. Sometimes I feel like ICC does not even care about the associate nations. Because the funding was going to be very different for the associate nations. Nepal has a lot of talented players. My personal opinion is that ICC can increase the funding for them. But then they will have to increase funding for all the associate nations.

The problem is that under current system teams with 100% foreign players are allocated a higher share of the funds (examples are United States of America, United Arab Emirates and Oman), and teams with native players have witnessed their funds going down with each passing year. In order to resolve this issue, the eligibility criteria needs to be changed. There should be a requirement that a majority of the players representing the national team should be citizens of that country. This sham scenario of foreigners arriving in tourist visa and then representing countries to which they have no connection should be avoided.

An example here. The so called "national team" from Czech Republic comprised of a bunch of tourists and medical students from India and Pakistan. Looks very "Czech" for me:

[Juggy777]

How many teams have got different squad for test and other formats of cricket. Yesterday England team played test match against New Zealand and lost it. Today England team have played against Bangladesh and won the match. This is good, because more players get opportunity to play for the country than just the same team playing every format of cricket.

India can try this kind of different squad for different format of cricket. BCCI have categorised the players on some category and have different salary slab.

I think the idea of having a different squad or multiple squads is actually very good. Especially for those teams which does have a lot of players. We know that the top teams like India, England, and Australia does have a lot of player waiting for a chance to play. If they have multiple squads, a lot of young players will be able to get the chance of playing and a lot of young talents will also come forward.

Another thing is, having multiple squads is also going to ensure that one country is being able to play in multiple tournaments and also against multiple countries at the same time.

Creating space for many players to play against different countries seems to good with the multiple squad. Based on the players availability those mentioned teams can go with this. However playing multiple tournaments in the same schedule doesn't seem to be fair. It'll be simply annoying, because we can't watch either of the match.

I believe that BCCI is also working on this, but it’s difficult to do this in India because there’re so many talented player’s and it becomes difficult to drop someone out of the team. Also the Indian team fans will rebel a lot if their favourite player will be left out, hence I can understand why BCCI is not yet having totally separate squads for all the three formats.

[Sithara007]

I believe that BCCI is also working on this, but it’s difficult to do this in India because there’re so many talented player’s and it becomes difficult to drop someone out of the team. Also the Indian team fans will rebel a lot if their favourite player will be left out, hence I can understand why BCCI is not yet having totally separate squads for all the three formats.

Indian selectors do have a problem in dropping non-performing players. KL Rahul was sustained within the team for too long, at the cost of other talented young players. Cheteshwar Pujara is still in the team, despite not performing for almost 3 years in a row. Hardick Pandya was given a guaranteed slot in the team for almost three years, before he came back to form. And the woke brigade led by Kohli and Rohit have a preference for bowlers like Arshdeep Singh, Siraj and Umran, who are always preferred for selection ahead of Natarajan and Kuldeep Sen.

[Ayers]

I believe that BCCI is also working on this, but it’s difficult to do this in India because there’re so many talented player’s and it becomes difficult to drop someone out of the team. Also the Indian team fans will rebel a lot if their favourite player will be left out, hence I can understand why BCCI is not yet having totally separate squads for all the three formats.

Indian selectors do have a problem in dropping non-performing players. KL Rahul was sustained within the team for too long, at the cost of other talented young players. Cheteshwar Pujara is still in the team, despite not performing for almost 3 years in a row. Hardick Pandya was given a guaranteed slot in the team for almost three years, before he came back to form. And the woke brigade led by Kohli and Rohit have a preference for bowlers like Arshdeep Singh, Siraj and Umran, who are always preferred for selection ahead of Natarajan and Kuldeep Sen.

So how about this? The players who are currently performing well will be able to play in the main team. And those players who are not currently performing well are going to play in another team which is not going to take part in serious competitions.

What I am trying to say is suppose there is a tri-nation series going on between India, Australia, and New Zealand. Those players who are performing well are going to play in this tournament.

And suppose at the same time India will have a series against Ireland. Those players who are not in form can perform against Ireland to grow confidence. And in this way, India will be able to play multiple series at the same time as well.

[Sithara007]

The group phase of 2023 ACC Men's Challenger Cup is now complete. 4 teams have qualified for the semi-finals: first match will be between Bhutan and Saudi Arabia, while the second one will be between Bahrain and Thailand. The two gulf nations will have the advantage as they are entirely comprised of foreign players with first-class experience. Bhutan has a 100% native squad, while Thailand is also majority native. A total of 8 teams participated in this tournament, including Iran, Maldives, Indonesia and Myanmar.

The two finalists from this tournament will qualify for the 2023 ACC Men's Premier Cup (where a total of 10 teams take part). Winner from the Premier Cup will qualify for the Asia Cup, which will be held later this year in Pakistan.

[Ayers]

The group phase of 2023 ACC Men's Challenger Cup is now complete. 4 teams have qualified for the semi-finals: first match will be between Bhutan and Saudi Arabia, while the second one will be between Bahrain and Thailand. The two gulf nations will have the advantage as they are entirely comprised of foreign players with first-class experience. Bhutan has a 100% native squad, while Thailand is also majority native. A total of 8 teams participated in this tournament, including Iran, Maldives, Indonesia and Myanmar.

The two finalists from this tournament will qualify for the 2023 ACC Men's Premier Cup (where a total of 10 teams take part). Winner from the Premier Cup will qualify for the Asia Cup, which will be held later this year in Pakistan.

Well, I am not so sure about the Asia cup being held in Pakistan. After all, what is happening so far does not indicate that Pakistan will actually be able to host the Asia cup. India is strongly opposing this idea. And in the end, considering the fact that Pakistan does not have a stable situation in the country, I don't think Pakistan will finally be able to post the Asia cup.

[eaLiTy]

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Well, I am not so sure about the Asia cup being held in Pakistan. After all, what is happening so far does not indicate that Pakistan will actually be able to host the Asia cup. India is strongly opposing this idea. And in the end, considering the fact that Pakistan does not have a stable situation in the country, I don't think Pakistan will finally be able to post the Asia cup.

That is true, the situation in Pakistan is not that great considering they are struggling financially but China is pumping them billions while they are in a battle with IMF. When it comes to Cricket the Pakistan Cricket board wont be having any issues conducting the tournament but since India claims that they wont be travelling to Pakistan, they either need to conduct the match in UAE or continue with the tournament without India. There might be a huge financial loss if India is not participating but they need to approach the ICC for the compensation  .

[KennyR]

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Well, I am not so sure about the Asia cup being held in Pakistan. After all, what is happening so far does not indicate that Pakistan will actually be able to host the Asia cup. India is strongly opposing this idea. And in the end, considering the fact that Pakistan does not have a stable situation in the country, I don't think Pakistan will finally be able to post the Asia cup.

That is true, the situation in Pakistan is not that great considering they are struggling financially but China is pumping them billions while they are in a battle with IMF. When it comes to Cricket the Pakistan Cricket board wont be having any issues conducting the tournament but since India claims that they wont be travelling to Pakistan, they either need to conduct the match in UAE or continue with the tournament without India. There might be a huge financial loss if India is not participating but they need to approach the ICC for the compensation  .

It is going to be a big loss for Pakistan without India's participation. Cricket boards need to come to a conclusion on this issue at the earliest. More teams have begun to tour Pakistan for different formats of cricket series, but India denies to participate. This looks bad, but in reality we can't blame. The relationship between India and Pakistan is different from other countries. If something unexpected happens surely this will cause big problem. My personal opinion, selecting a common venue seems to be the better choice.

[darewaller]

Well, I am not so sure about the Asia cup being held in Pakistan. After all, what is happening so far does not indicate that Pakistan will actually be able to host the Asia cup. India is strongly opposing this idea. And in the end, considering the fact that Pakistan does not have a stable situation in the country, I don't think Pakistan will finally be able to post the Asia cup.

What is going to happen with Asia Cup we will have all updates in next few days because there was deadline for this event, and we are expecting another meeting for the solution with most chances if Pakistan insist for this event to be held in Pakistan then most chances India is not going to participate in this event, and they have to organize this event without them which is possible even market could be having big setback with this all but this matter is sure now we are not going to have any cricketing event between these two countries in next few decades because tension is at his highest level and no one going to accept others will which is also not good here in this region most chances we will have this event in the UAE or another postponement.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

Well, I am not so sure about the Asia cup being held in Pakistan. After all, what is happening so far does not indicate that Pakistan will actually be able to host the Asia cup. India is strongly opposing this idea. And in the end, considering the fact that Pakistan does not have a stable situation in the country, I don't think Pakistan will finally be able to post the Asia cup.

What is going to happen with Asia Cup we will have all updates in next few days because there was deadline for this event, and we are expecting another meeting for the solution with most chances if Pakistan insist for this event to be held in Pakistan then most chances India is not going to participate in this event, and they have to organize this event without them which is possible even market could be having big setback with this all but this matter is sure now we are not going to have any cricketing event between these two countries in next few decades because tension is at his highest level and no one going to accept others will which is also not good here in this region most chances we will have this event in the UAE or another postponement.

Asia Cups venue will be decided in this month and their are thin chances of Asia Cup to be held in Pakistan as India is adamant on their stance of not coming to Pakistan and ICC cannot ho forward without India in Asia Cup.
This will be a really upsetting point in cricket world to treat a nation like this just because of their in-house problems .

[Ayers]

What is going to happen with Asia Cup we will have all updates in next few days because there was deadline for this event, and we are expecting another meeting for the solution with most chances if Pakistan insist for this event to be held in Pakistan then most chances India is not going to participate in this event, and they have to organize this event without them which is possible even market could be having big setback with this all but this matter is sure now we are not going to have any cricketing event between these two countries in next few decades because tension is at his highest level and no one going to accept others will which is also not good here in this region most chances we will have this event in the UAE or another postponement.

I really do not think that postponing this event is an option. The way things are coming on right now I believe India is likely to win. Pakistan is likely to have to take a loss here. I don't believe Pakistan has any other option other than that. India is the biggest cricketing nation in the world. They are generating the most amount of money that ICC gets. So of course, the ICC is determined to listen to India.

Ultimately, I think the venue will be shifted. Pakistan did say that they were not willing to participate in the world cup if the Asia cup was not hosted in Pakistan. That is expected to result in Pakistan taking losses after losses. If Pakistan is clever, they are going to try to make the Asia Cup be hosted in Pakistan. But if they cannot, they should not back out of participating in the world cup.

[BobK71]

What is going to happen with Asia Cup we will have all updates in next few days because there was deadline for this event, and we are expecting another meeting for the solution with most chances if Pakistan insist for this event to be held in Pakistan then most chances India is not going to participate in this event, and they have to organize this event without them which is possible even market could be having big setback with this all but this matter is sure now we are not going to have any cricketing event between these two countries in next few decades because tension is at his highest level and no one going to accept others will which is also not good here in this region most chances we will have this event in the UAE or another postponement.

I really do not think that postponing this event is an option. The way things are coming on right now I believe India is likely to win. Pakistan is likely to have to take a loss here. I don't believe Pakistan has any other option other than that. India is the biggest cricketing nation in the world. They are generating the most amount of money that ICC gets. So of course, the ICC is determined to listen to India.

Ultimately, I think the venue will be shifted. Pakistan did say that they were not willing to participate in the world cup if the Asia cup was not hosted in Pakistan. That is expected to result in Pakistan taking losses after losses. If Pakistan is clever, they are going to try to make the Asia Cup be hosted in Pakistan. But if they cannot, they should not back out of participating in the world cup.

The Asia Cup and the World Cup both are popular in cricket. However the biggest tournament of cricket is the world cup. Whatever Pakistan take the decision about the venue it must be well understood otherwise they may be in a large economic crisis. Plus and minus calculations need to be done very cautiously otherwise they may also have to give great compensation. However, If ICC , India and Pakistan Cricket Board can take reliable decision that would be good for the cricket.

[Ayers]

The Asia Cup and the World Cup both are popular in cricket. However the biggest tournament of cricket is the world cup. Whatever Pakistan take the decision about the venue it must be well understood otherwise they may be in a large economic crisis. Plus and minus calculations need to be done very cautiously otherwise they may also have to give great compensation. However, If ICC , India and Pakistan Cricket Board can take reliable decision that would be good for the cricket.

There is going to be no issue if the BCCI says that there is no issue. After all, the ICC does everything according to the suggestion of the BCCI. The problem is BCCI is not going to let this one go. It is very clear that cricket is facing these types of problems because one country not having a good relationship with the other.

Political relation I mean.

I am not saying that Pakistan is a 100% safe country. So the security issue that India is showing right now is not absolutely baseless. 

Anyway, I think the venue will be changed. and Pakistan will not be able to do basically anything about it.