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May 22, 2016, 11:03:35 PM
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Here is a very interesting article about Donald Trumps connections to the "MOB" it will be interesting to see how he responds.


http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-mob-organized-crime-213910?paginate=false


The article gives a good argument for a closer look to be made into Trumps dealings. However as an investigative journalist the author fails to bring any proof that TRUMP has broken any laws. It can also be argued that it would have been impossible not to have become successful in property development without having to have done business with MOB organisations, as the author points out they dominated the construction industry and its unions.

Paradoxically this whole election is a struggle between the mob against the Establishment who are seen by many as corrupt. Perhaps our best shot at real change is to have someone with Trumps credentials to take them on?      

To be honest, I figured very early on in my research of who Trump even was that if he did not have some exposure to and experience with 'the mob' it would be a miracle.  This, of course, because of his vocation.  I decided that if Trump used the mob to intimidate people with bodily harm as part of his 'deals toolkit', I would not support him (and continue to hold this view.)  If he simply over-payed for some concrete, and especially if it helped deal with union issues, I'm actually pretty OK with that all things considered.

Speaking of 'the mob', in some circles I read that 'they' quit litterally moved right into banking as an evolutionary path, and at the highest levels of the biggest banks.  This compared to the rhetorical throw-away words like 'banksters.'  I actually don't rule this out especially after observing the likes of Paulson in relation to the 2008 financial goings-on.  I mention it because in this case Hillary and the massive money she gets from 'the banksters' for flapping her gums in front of them for a bit comes into focus.


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May 22, 2016, 11:21:17 PM
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A recent bit of pearl-clutching from the New Yorker, in which the author marches boldly into Godwin's Law territory by saying "[Trump]’s not Hitler, as his wife recently said? Well, of course he isn’t. But then Hitler wasn’t Hitler—until he was."

Here ya go:

Quote from: Adam Gopnik
THE DANGEROUS ACCEPTANCE OF DONALD TRUMP

"Vice is a monster of so frightful mien, / As, to be hated, needs but to be seen,” the poet Alexander Pope wrote, in lines that were once, as they said back in the day, imprinted on the mind of every schoolboy. Pope continued, “Yet seen too oft, familiar with her face, / we first endure, then pity, then embrace.” The three-part process by which the gross becomes the taken for granted has been on matchlessly grim view this past week in the ascent of Donald Trump. First merely endured by those in the Republican Party, with pained grimaces and faint bleats of reluctance, bare toleration passed quickly over into blind, partisan allegiance—he’s going to be the nominee, after all, and so is our boy. Then a weird kind of pity arose, directed not so much at him (he supplies his own self-pity) as at his supporters, on the premise that their existence somehow makes him a champion for the dispossessed, although the evidence indicates that his followers are mostly stirred by familiar racial and cultural resentments, of which Trump has been a single-minded spokesperson.

Now for the embrace. One by one, people who had not merely resisted him before but called him by his proper name—who, until a month ago, were determined to oppose a man they rightly described as a con artist and a pathological liar—are suddenly getting on board. Columnists and magazines that a month ago were saying #NeverTrump are now vibrating with the frisson of his audacity, fawning over him or at least thrilling to his rising poll numbers and telling one another, “We can control him.’

No, you can’t. One can argue about whether to call him a fascist or an authoritarian populist or a grotesque joke made in a nightmare shared between Philip K. Dick and Tom Wolfe, but under any label Trump is a declared enemy of the liberal constitutional order of the United States—the order that has made it, in fact, the great and plural country that it already is. He announces his enmity to America by word and action every day. It is articulated in his insistence on the rightness of torture and the acceptable murder of noncombatants. It is self-evident in the threats he makes daily to destroy his political enemies, made only worse by the frivolity and transience of the tone of those threats. He makes his enmity to American values clear when he suggests that the Presidency holds absolute power, through which he will be able to end opposition—whether by questioning the ownership of newspapers or talking about changing libel laws or threatening to take away F.C.C. licenses. To say “Well, he would not really have the power to accomplish that” is to misunderstand the nature of thin-skinned authoritarians in power. They do not arrive in office and discover, as constitutionalists do, that their capabilities are more limited than they imagined. They arrive, and then make their power as large as they can....

The American Republic stands threatened by the first overtly anti-democratic leader of a large party in its modern history—an authoritarian with no grasp of history, no impulse control, and no apparent barriers on his will to power....

If Trump came to power, there is a decent chance that the American experiment would be over. This is not a hyperbolic prediction; it is not a hysterical prediction; it is simply a candid reading of what history tells us happens in countries with leaders like Trump....The national psyche never gets over learning that its institutions are that fragile and their ability to resist a dictator that weak. If he can rout the Republican Party in a week by having effectively secured the nomination, ask yourself what Trump could do with the American government if he had a mandate.

I have to say that it is kinda rich to see a Progressive wrapping himself in the American flag.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump?intcid=mod-most-popular







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May 22, 2016, 11:28:07 PM
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Here is a very interesting article about Donald Trumps connections to the "MOB" it will be interesting to see how he responds.


http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-mob-organized-crime-213910?paginate=false


The article gives a good argument for a closer look to be made into Trumps dealings. However as an investigative journalist the author fails to bring any proof that TRUMP has broken any laws. It can also be argued that it would have been impossible not to have become successful in property development without having to have done business with MOB organisations, as the author points out they dominated the construction industry and its unions.

Paradoxically this whole election is a struggle between the mob against the Establishment who are seen by many as corrupt. Perhaps our best shot at real change is to have someone with Trumps credentials to take them on?      

To be honest, I figured very early on in my research of who Trump even was that if he did not have some exposure to and experience with 'the mob' it would be a miracle.  This, of course, because of his vocation.  I decided that if Trump used the mob to intimidate people with bodily harm as part of his 'deals toolkit', I would not support him (and continue to hold this view.)  If he simply over-payed for some concrete, and especially if it helped deal with union issues, I'm actually pretty OK with that all things considered.

Speaking of 'the mob', in some circles I read that 'they' quit litterally moved right into banking as an evolutionary path, and at the highest levels of the biggest banks.  This compared to the rhetorical throw-away words like 'banksters.'  I actually don't rule this out especially after observing the likes of Paulson in relation to the 2008 financial goings-on.  I mention it because in this case Hillary and the massive money she gets from 'the banksters' for flapping her gums in front of them for a bit comes into focus.




They may not even have proofs of transcripts of her paid appearances...


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May 23, 2016, 12:15:54 PM
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Look at how many jobs will be lost if Trump wins.

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May 23, 2016, 01:14:02 PM
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Look at how many jobs will be lost if Trump wins.

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And what about all the free Obama Phones?
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May 23, 2016, 02:21:48 PM
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Here is a very interesting article about Donald Trumps connections to the "MOB" it will be interesting to see how he responds.


http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-mob-organized-crime-213910?paginate=false


The article gives a good argument for a closer look to be made into Trumps dealings. However as an investigative journalist the author fails to bring any proof that TRUMP has broken any laws. It can also be argued that it would have been impossible not to have become successful in property development without having to have done business with MOB organisations, as the author points out they dominated the construction industry and its unions.

Paradoxically this whole election is a struggle between the mob against the Establishment who are seen by many as corrupt. Perhaps our best shot at real change is to have someone with Trumps credentials to take them on?      

To be honest, I figured very early on in my research of who Trump even was that if he did not have some exposure to and experience with 'the mob' it would be a miracle.  This, of course, because of his vocation.  I decided that if Trump used the mob to intimidate people with bodily harm as part of his 'deals toolkit', I would not support him (and continue to hold this view.)  If he simply over-payed for some concrete, and especially if it helped deal with union issues, I'm actually pretty OK with that all things considered.

Speaking of 'the mob', in some circles I read that 'they' quit litterally moved right into banking as an evolutionary path, and at the highest levels of the biggest banks.  This compared to the rhetorical throw-away words like 'banksters.'  I actually don't rule this out especially after observing the likes of Paulson in relation to the 2008 financial goings-on.  I mention it because in this case Hillary and the massive money she gets from 'the banksters' for flapping her gums in front of them for a bit comes into focus.




They may not even have proofs of transcripts of her paid appearances...


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RE Trump "and the Mob," a reminder.

Democrat Harry Reid was chair of the Nevada Gaming Commission, virtually continually entrenched with mobsters for his entire career.....

RE Hillary's list of "paid speeches."

What I find curious is that since we know she does a terrible presentation on stage, doing a speech.....why would anyone want to pay her to do a speech?

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May 23, 2016, 02:27:05 PM
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And what about all the free Obama Phones?

No more free phones (that Bush started)?


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May 23, 2016, 03:52:27 PM
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And what about all the free Obama Phones?

No more free phones (that Bush started)?




People can still vote for harpy clinton...


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May 23, 2016, 05:10:31 PM
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Artist 3D prints Donald Trump butt plug in protest at immigration rhetoric
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/15/donald-trump-butt-plug-3d-printing

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May 23, 2016, 05:17:47 PM
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So on the basis of the article in POLITICO Magazine, we now able to understand what Trump meant when he said he will get Mexico to build the wall and "Make America Great Again".

1) Give the contact to build the wall to his "Mob" friends who know how to get projects built.
2) Pay the Mobsters with Tariff laundered Mexican drug cartels money.
3) The wall is built, keeping competition out, the US is High, now the America is Great Again  

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May 23, 2016, 05:29:18 PM
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Artist 3D prints Donald Trump butt plug in protest at immigration rhetoric
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/15/donald-trump-butt-plug-3d-printing




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci8tGmgUYAAF-jF.jpg

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May 23, 2016, 05:48:35 PM
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So on the basis of the article in POLITICO Magazine, we now able to understand what Trump meant when he said he will get Mexico to build the wall and "Make America Great Again".

1) Give the contact to build the wall to his "Mob" friends who know how to get projects built....

Wait, you mean he's going to give the contract to Democrats?
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May 23, 2016, 05:59:38 PM
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So on the basis of the article in POLITICO Magazine, we now able to understand what Trump meant when he said he will get Mexico to build the wall and "Make America Great Again".

1) Give the contact to build the wall to his "Mob" friends who know how to get projects built....

Wait, you mean he's going to give the contract to Democrats?

Hell No! Hillary will be in the chain gang, building the wall.

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So on the basis of the article in POLITICO Magazine, we now able to understand what Trump meant when he said he will get Mexico to build the wall and "Make America Great Again".

1) Give the contact to build the wall to his "Mob" friends who know how to get projects built....

Wait, you mean he's going to give the contract to Democrats?

Hell No! Hillary will be in the chain gang, building the wall.
Wait, how can that be?

I thought she doesn't speak Spanish?
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May 23, 2016, 07:52:00 PM
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So on the basis of the article in POLITICO Magazine, we now able to understand what Trump meant when he said he will get Mexico to build the wall and "Make America Great Again".

1) Give the contact to build the wall to his "Mob" friends who know how to get projects built....

Wait, you mean he's going to give the contract to Democrats?

Hell No! Hillary will be in the chain gang, building the wall.
Wait, how can that be?

I thought she doesn't speak Spanish?


She carries hot sauce in her purse everywhere though, making her a genuine latina...
http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/04/18/hillary-clinton-carries-hot-sauce-in-her-purse-charlamange-interview/



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No overhead view?     Grin

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May 23, 2016, 09:00:47 PM
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Very useful for those sitting on the fence, but more so for Clitory supporters

And its gone.
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Fence? Build the wall!!!!

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