Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Unknown Op]

from the previous two seasons Dortmund were closer to Bayern Munich and this could be a sign that Dortmund already seems to have the desire to get a trophy this new season.
maybe a lot of Dortmund fans hope that their favorite team can rise to an amazing history in the summer with the trophies they can get.

but to be honest I'm a little doubtful about all of this because Dortmund lost some of their best players.

Dortmund's circulation will still be in the same situation even for the next few seasons. Admittedly, Dortmund is always surprising because they competed with Bayern Munich starting almost from the middle of the season, but in the end they were unable to close the season with the Bundesliga trophy.

On the other hand, the factor of players being sold by Dortmund will always be the reason for their failure to win the bundesliga title and it's no wonder they will continue to experience the same thing every season. I think that right now there is no team that can really stop Bayern Munich's domination, if there is one, only Dortmund, that is only a threat.

That is also inseparable from the decline shown by Bayern Munich in the last few seasons, so it is difficult for me to judge whether Borussia Dortmund is getting better, or on the contrary, Borussia Dortmund is at the same level and Bayern Munich is increasingly showing its decline. The last season in 2022/2023 was a very tense season even though it was closed with Bayern Munich who managed to win the title using the draw that Borussi Dortmund obtained in their last match.
I have faith, if Borussia Dortmund can raise their level, then next season it is not impossible that Borussia Dortmund will win the Bundesliga title.

The football scene has undergone a significant change in recent years generating concerns about the relative strength of Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund. Bayern Munich has unmistakably exhibited indications of deterioration but it is also debatable if Borussia Dortmund has actually advanced or is only maintaining their current position. The 2022/2023 season tension peaked when Bayern Munich won the championship thanks to a critical draw that Borussia Dortmund earned in their final game. However Dortmund fans have hope and faith in the future as they see a chance for their team to improve performance and challenge for the Bundesliga title in the coming season. Only time will tell if this optimism results in victory for Borussia Dortmund.

[tiCeR]

I'm wondering how Dortmund is going to perform in the Bundesliga and this time just like the last two seasons we saw from Dortmund I'm waiting to see another young talent growing up in this team like they had Haalnd and Jude Bellingham before and they sold both.
Maybe this time Dortmund will sell another young talent to mean more just like what they did in the past.

What they have done in the last season is about what they did in the seasons before as well. i mean the overall result. But when their goal is to finally overturn Bayern's dominance in the Bundesliga, the result has to be much better this time and I say much better because I don't believe that Bayern will underdeliver again like they did last season. Often times when Bayern got into danger or their titles got into danger, the response was that they became much better afterwards. And it would be nothing but a surprise if they have the same chaos again. Therefore, if Dortmund wants the top of the table, there can't be any excuses in any of the games that are a must win game on paper. They have to meet the expectations then.

That's their business and how they earn money for their team. Maybe their first goal is to earn money and just be on top of the table to get the champions league ticket.
Been more than ten years since we didn't see Dortmund win the Bundesliga title and from what we can see they are not even trying hard for it.

It is not so much about their business and their choice, but about they money they have available. Borussia Dortmund is a publicly listed company and they owe justification to their shareholders. It is not always an advantage for a club to be publicly listed as we can see here because their goal was to raise money and invest it into the team back when they went public. Now it is hard to go full rogue and make a decision and say something like "we don't sell player X for 120m" because if it goes wrong their share price will suffer and shareholders want an explanation. They have now to find a good spot for their decision making processes and for now they can't compete with Bayern and, consequently, not with rich clubs from abroad.

[Bobrox]

At this point I don't even think money is the reason they sell players to Bayern Munich. I said so because they sell their players very cheap to Bayern. If any club that's not Bayern Munich goes for a Dortmund player, they will slap a very high price tag on the player, but if it was Bayern, they player will leave for almost nothing.
Just recently Raphaël Guerreiro joined Bayern Munich from Dortmund for free. So how exactly is Dortmund making any money out of that.
Some times I wonder if all the Bundesliga teams play for Bayern Munich, especially Dortmund.

Its not doubt about football business era right now by selling their player to other team with higher values, but what did by Dortmund seems contrast because sell their player to rival teams or give chance to Bayern keep dominance in Bundesliga by selling their star player. Recently, Dortmund failed give extend contract to Raphaël Guerreiro and he has joined Bayern Munich with free agent and seems most disappointed for Dortmund losing potential player with free.

Dortmund has made much money from transfer player, they have great scout talent how to make many young player have consistent performance and increasing up their values after one until three years with Dortmund. But one weakness side from Dortmund they not try to stop Bayern keep dominance in Bundesliga and has priority how to promote young player on every season for increasing their transfer market values.

[Z-tight]

Dortmund has made much money from transfer player, they have great scout talent how to make many young player have consistent performance and increasing up their values after one until three years with Dortmund. But one weakness side from Dortmund they not try to stop Bayern keep dominance in Bundesliga and has priority how to promote young player on every season for increasing their transfer market values.

After what Dortmund did last season, i don't have any hope in them to stop the dominance of Bayern munich in the bundesliga, Dortmund is a football club that are comfortable with not winning, Bayern were bad last season, but still won the bundesliga because Dortmund gave it to them. They have now sold Bellingham to Real madrid, so their team is now much weaker than it was last season, because of this i don't think Dortmund has any chance for the bundesliga next season. Bayern's dominance will continue, until another team that's not Dortmund improves and stops it.

[hahay]

Dortmund has made much money from transfer player, they have great scout talent how to make many young player have consistent performance and increasing up their values after one until three years with Dortmund. But one weakness side from Dortmund they not try to stop Bayern keep dominance in Bundesliga and has priority how to promote young player on every season for increasing their transfer market values.

After what Dortmund did last season, i don't have any hope in them to stop the dominance of Bayern munich in the bundesliga, Dortmund is a football club that are comfortable with not winning, Bayern were bad last season, but still won the bundesliga because Dortmund gave it to them. They have now sold Bellingham to Real madrid, so their team is now much weaker than it was last season, because of this i don't think Dortmund has any chance for the bundesliga next season. Bayern's dominance will continue, until another team that's not Dortmund improves and stops it.

If you remember, how was when Dortmund sold Haaland and most of us considered Dortmund to be weak and hard to score goals. But the fact is, Dortmund can still be very competitive in the race for the title after Haaland left and what's more, Dortmund can still produce great players and immediately release them in this transfer window. So yes, it doesn't matter how many great players are willing to be released and or sold by Dortmund, because in the end Dortmund will always be able to compete in the race for the Bundesliga title.

[wmaurik]

This plan looks set to continue. Borussia Dortmund has been following this strategy for a long time. They are making a serious profit. They do not want to give up this gain. They wouldn't have sent Bellingham if the Bundesliga title had been their goal.

The business that has been run by Borussia Dortmund for a long time is still proving to be very effective now by continuing to make money through their players, but in terms of the Bundesliga title I think Borussia Dortmund is also still thinking about it because last season Borussia Dortmund seemed to be competing with Bayern Munich in the standings until end of season. This indicates that Borussia Dortmund still has the desire to become champions in the Bundesliga even though they have not stopped running the business they have been doing for a long time.

[klidex]

Dortmund has made much money from transfer player, they have great scout talent how to make many young player have consistent performance and increasing up their values after one until three years with Dortmund. But one weakness side from Dortmund they not try to stop Bayern keep dominance in Bundesliga and has priority how to promote young player on every season for increasing their transfer market values.

After what Dortmund did last season, i don't have any hope in them to stop the dominance of Bayern munich in the bundesliga, Dortmund is a football club that are comfortable with not winning, Bayern were bad last season, but still won the bundesliga because Dortmund gave it to them. They have now sold Bellingham to Real madrid, so their team is now much weaker than it was last season, because of this i don't think Dortmund has any chance for the bundesliga next season. Bayern's dominance will continue, until another team that's not Dortmund improves and stops it.

Even though I still hope that Borussia dortmund can still have the opportunity to be able to replace Bayern Munich, but it is very disappointing after hearing the news that they are selling their best players again to other clubs.
It is undeniable that Borussia dortmund will not be concerned with trophies or titles but they will be concerned with their own financial business without thinking about the title they have to get and give their fans pride.

[Lafu]

I really think that the supporters of Dortmund should actually push them to go for trophies at this point. Otherwise, they are going to do the same thing again and again. I actually feel sorry for the fans because if the clan is not interested in winning why are they even supporting them? Is it worth watching the games and paying the ticket bills, if Dortmund is not actually aiming to win trophies? I personally don’t think so.

How should the supporters of Dortmund push them or the managment to go for trophies ?
Next thing is do you really think that they not are aiming for getting trophies , they are doing that every season even when they got Haaland and Bellingham in the past.

And yes, if they do not change their tactics Bayern Munich is certainly going to be having longer reign on the Bundesliga title this season there was a great chance for Dortmund. Only if they were interested in winning trophies.

Sounds like you really dont have any idea of the German League and of the last years and Dortmund.
I guess every team are aiming to win titles and other things.

[Avirunes]

Borussia Dortmund manager Edin Terzi is in ideal positions to achieve his objectives, but the board keeps releasing key players, jeopardizing the club's chances of winning the Bundesliga. If one can recurred the club's past and present deals, they sold out talented players who, if present in the club at the time, would most likely have a different story. Borrusia Dortmund are more concerned with trophies; they need to start winning titles because it's becoming clear that they produce their funds by transferring their talented and promising players to outstanding teams, which is a huge loss on their part.

At this point I don't even think money is the reason they sell players to Bayern Munich. I said so because they sell their players very cheap to Bayern. If any club that's not Bayern Munich goes for a Dortmund player, they will slap a very high price tag on the player, but if it was Bayern, they player will leave for almost nothing.
Just recently Raphaël Guerreiro joined Bayern Munich from Dortmund for free. So how exactly is Dortmund making any money out of that.
Some times I wonder if all the Bundesliga teams play for Bayern Munich, especially Dortmund.

I would say both clubs have good relationship despite being Bundesliga rivals if you ask me. It's not just Dortmund giving it to Bayern at cheap or free but Bayern have also let their players go to Dortmund for free (for example Sule last season). I think their scouts targets players who are about to go out of contract within a year ahead of them signing the contract extension. We have seen the case of Lewandowski where he moved to Dortmund for free but in actual he already had let Dortmund known of his stance that he is not gonna stay further at the club and is gonna honor whatever duration is left on the contract. Who knows maybe Bayern had already communicated with Lewandowski then that lead to Lewandowski to not to sign further. I feel like Guerreiro is the same case.

Here is the list of all the transfers between Bayern and Dortmund: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/vergleich/vereinsvergleich/statistik/27_16 

[rahmad2nd]

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After what Dortmund did last season, i don't have any hope in them to stop the dominance of Bayern munich in the bundesliga, Dortmund is a football club that are comfortable with not winning, Bayern were bad last season, but still won the bundesliga because Dortmund gave it to them. They have now sold Bellingham to Real madrid, so their team is now much weaker than it was last season, because of this i don't think Dortmund has any chance for the bundesliga next season. Bayern's dominance will continue, until another team that's not Dortmund improves and stops it.

I quite believe, even though Bellingham left for Madrid it would not change the team's performance as a whole.  in fact, Dortmund still has a great chance to finish in the top four of the Bundeliga. because, they quickly replaced belilingham replacements. let's look back at the last few seasons, although Dortmund have sold several players. in fact, Dortmund was still able to finish in the top 4 and at the same time take part in the Champions League competition.

Usually, Dortmund has prepared another player instead. Even so, don't expect too much if Dortmund will again compete as tightly as this season in the competition for the Bundesliga trophy. however, Dormtmund will always be the team that bothers Bayern Munich. We'll see what Dortmund will do this season. also, we'll see if Tuchel can maintain their dominance in the Bundesliga. especially now, Munich has always lost in the hunt for players outside the Budesliga, especially in the hunt for Premier League players. interestingly, whether Bayern will get stronger, or. there is no other word, other than we are waiting for the new season to be rolled out.

[Jackl87]

After what Dortmund did last season, i don't have any hope in them to stop the dominance of Bayern munich in the bundesliga, Dortmund is a football club that are comfortable with not winning, Bayern were bad last season, but still won the bundesliga because Dortmund gave it to them. They have now sold Bellingham to Real madrid, so their team is now much weaker than it was last season, because of this i don't think Dortmund has any chance for the bundesliga next season. Bayern's dominance will continue, until another team that's not Dortmund improves and stops it.

I definitely agree that the chances of Borussia Dortmund to Finale break the dominance of Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga were as high as never in the last decade or so and i doubt that the get another chance this big in the next few years. This year Bayern was very weak for their standards and i doubt that this will happen again in the next few seasons again.
I also think that maybe RB Leipzig may be the best candidate to Finale dethrone Bayern.

[puloweh555]

After what Dortmund did last season, i don't have any hope in them to stop the dominance of Bayern munich in the bundesliga, Dortmund is a football club that are comfortable with not winning, Bayern were bad last season, but still won the bundesliga because Dortmund gave it to them. They have now sold Bellingham to Real madrid, so their team is now much weaker than it was last season, because of this i don't think Dortmund has any chance for the bundesliga next season. Bayern's dominance will continue, until another team that's not Dortmund improves and stops it.

Yes, it's true as you said, even though last season was an opportunity for Dortmund to get the Bundesliga trophy because Bayern Munich were surprisingly inconsistent in several matches. so that Dortmund was ranked first in the standings which at the end Dortmund had to give up the Bundesliga trophy after they couldn't get three points during their last game. Next season looks like it will be tough for Durtmund after Jude left for Real Madrid.

But what I like about Dortmund is that from the fall and rise of this club, the fans have contributed to the financial revival of Dortmund. supporters do not leave their favorite club constantly on the verge of bankruptcy, once there was a banner at the Westfallen stadium that read "If You Have To Fall Then I Will Fall With You". I swear I get goosebumps seeing things like this, unlike fans of English and Spanish league clubs who put pressure on their clubs to bring in big players and bring trophies, but in the end it was disappointing.

[jostorres]

It looks like if Dortmund are able to retain their best players I think it will not be difficult for Dortmund to dominate matches in the Bundesliga but the question is whether Dortmund can retain their best players? while there are lots of rumors that Dortmund still want to sell their best players like Bellingham.
not sure in this summer whether Dortmund can dominate the bundesliga or even just finish as runner up again. but even being runner up is a bit tough.

That's not about Bellingham or Haaland the last season that's about the Borussia Dortmund business they have, Dortmund is a team that grows young talents and then they sell these players to earn money. I think this if they change their plan any time soon.

This plan looks set to continue. Borussia Dortmund has been following this strategy for a long time. They are making a serious profit. They do not want to give up this gain. They wouldn't have sent Bellingham if the Bundesliga title had been their goal.

Yes, they have followed that as a good method but that doesn't mean that they will have the same thing over and over again all the time, it just means that they did it a few times in a row and that was good, but maybe they will end up failing. Is there any young superstars on the squad right now that they can sell? Looking at the roster Karim Adeyemi and Nico are the only young players that may have a huge future profit possibly, new players that been there for just a season so it is not like they grew them up, and spent a good amount on them, but they do have the potential.

But, nobody has the potential that Jude has, he was special and they can't replicate that form of transfer again, maybe if Moukoko grows to be a superstar striker in the future.

[abderrazak belkhir]

Dortmund has made much money from transfer player, they have great scout talent how to make many young player have consistent performance and increasing up their values after one until three years with Dortmund. But one weakness side from Dortmund they not try to stop Bayern keep dominance in Bundesliga and has priority how to promote young player on every season for increasing their transfer market values.

After what Dortmund did last season, i don't have any hope in them to stop the dominance of Bayern munich in the bundesliga, Dortmund is a football club that are comfortable with not winning, Bayern were bad last season, but still won the bundesliga because Dortmund gave it to them. They have now sold Bellingham to Real madrid, so their team is now much weaker than it was last season, because of this i don't think Dortmund has any chance for the bundesliga next season. Bayern's dominance will continue, until another team that's not Dortmund improves and stops it.

Even though I still hope that Borussia dortmund can still have the opportunity to be able to replace Bayern Munich, but it is very disappointing after hearing the news that they are selling their best players again to other clubs.
It is undeniable that Borussia dortmund will not be concerned with trophies or titles but they will be concerned with their own financial business without thinking about the title they have to get and give their fans pride.

That's unfortunately the problem of Dortmund, everytime they made a good club with many talented players they ended selling them to other clubs, i didn't expected that they will do it again this year but they already started selling their stars starting from Bellingham

[Ayers]

I really think that the supporters of Dortmund should actually push them to go for trophies at this point. Otherwise, they are going to do the same thing again and again. I actually feel sorry for the fans because if the clan is not interested in winning why are they even supporting them? Is it worth watching the games and paying the ticket bills, if Dortmund is not actually aiming to win trophies? I personally don’t think so.

How should the supporters of Dortmund push them or the managment to go for trophies ?
Next thing is do you really think that they not are aiming for getting trophies , they are doing that every season even when they got Haaland and Bellingham in the past.

And yes, if they do not change their tactics Bayern Munich is certainly going to be having longer reign on the Bundesliga title this season there was a great chance for Dortmund. Only if they were interested in winning trophies.

Sounds like you really dont have any idea of the German League and of the last years and Dortmund.
I guess every team are aiming to win titles and other things.

I know that Dortmund is selling their players who have the potential to be the best in the world, even when they don’t need to sell them. I also know that the club has a huge fan following even though they are not interested in keeping players that are performing the best for them. They don’t even care if the players who are performing the best for them are sold to their rivals.

You know, about the transfer of Robert Lewandowski to Bayern Munich from Dortmund. If Dortmund keep doing this, they are not going to actually perform better than Bayern Munich. And even if Dortmund was actually interested in winning trophies, they would have at least got players of similar level when they are selling the best players that they have.

[boltz]

It seems Klopp won't train another club after he is leaving Liverpool and his next destination will be to coach German national team and man , they really need a coach like Klopp to actually train all the talented players that Germany currently have in their team because this is were they have problems...with coaches being unable to control some of the players and make them understand that no one is better than the other one when it comes to national teams. If this happens ...Germany is back being a force by the next WC in USA.

[Leviathan.007]

Bayern Munich are still not rushing anything about a centre-forward transfer. I haven't seen a big rumour linking any striker to them these days. They are focused on other positions more currently. But they must be aware of the importance of signing a solid striker this summer on one hand. Because there wouldn't be a big change by only keeping Choupo-Moting and having Mane in the position sometimes.

They have seen this clearly by this season. I wonder whether Tuchel has someone in his mind to recommend to the board. If I were in their place I would have prioritized the striker transfer. There are really nice options in the market but acting faster than other top teams would be better.

I can't see many forwards linked to this team so far and Tuchel maybe has problems with finding a good center forward for his team.
After Lewandoski left Bayern Munich he could never find a replacement for this player.
Now the only player I see linked to Bayern Munich is Harry Kane.

[Docnaster]

Dortmund has made much money from transfer player, they have great scout talent how to make many young player have consistent performance and increasing up their values after one until three years with Dortmund. But one weakness side from Dortmund they not try to stop Bayern keep dominance in Bundesliga and has priority how to promote young player on every season for increasing their transfer market values.

After what Dortmund did last season, i don't have any hope in them to stop the dominance of Bayern munich in the bundesliga, Dortmund is a football club that are comfortable with not winning, Bayern were bad last season, but still won the bundesliga because Dortmund gave it to them. They have now sold Bellingham to Real madrid, so their team is now much weaker than it was last season, because of this i don't think Dortmund has any chance for the bundesliga next season. Bayern's dominance will continue, until another team that's not Dortmund improves and stops it.

Borussia Dortmund scout team without doubt is one of the best in the world because of the fact that they're always scouting out very young players who would go on to become global superstars.
However the club's constant decisions to always sell their best players in exchange for huge amount of financial profits is the reason why they're yet to win the German Bundesliga title for over 11 years now and that has also aided Bayern Munich to dominate the German league.

[baeva]

Dortmund has made much money from transfer player, they have great scout talent how to make many young player have consistent performance and increasing up their values after one until three years with Dortmund. But one weakness side from Dortmund they not try to stop Bayern keep dominance in Bundesliga and has priority how to promote young player on every season for increasing their transfer market values.

After what Dortmund did last season, i don't have any hope in them to stop the dominance of Bayern munich in the bundesliga, Dortmund is a football club that are comfortable with not winning, Bayern were bad last season, but still won the bundesliga because Dortmund gave it to them. They have now sold Bellingham to Real madrid, so their team is now much weaker than it was last season, because of this i don't think Dortmund has any chance for the bundesliga next season. Bayern's dominance will continue, until another team that's not Dortmund improves and stops it.

Dortmund is like a donor team that nurtures, makes a world class player and sells him for good money. It's essentially a business, and yes, they may not be interested in winning after all, but the players themselves are, so whatever the club management says, whatever the bar they set, it's the players themselves who want to win and have done so throughout the past season. I don't know if you can call it ignorance...

[asriloni]

It seems Klopp won't train another club after he is leaving Liverpool and his next destination will be to coach German national team and man , they really need a coach like Klopp to actually train all the talented players that Germany currently have in their team because this is were they have problems...with coaches being unable to control some of the players and make them understand that no one is better than the other one when it comes to national teams. If this happens ...Germany is back being a force by the next WC in USA.

The problem if he will be leaving from liverpool as per his contract and he will be coaching german national team in 2026. He has signed a new deal with liverpool to extend his contract till 2026.
He has only a brief time to coaching national team if he will not have an interest in cutting his contract. He can be let go by the club any time if Liverpool does not demonstrate improvement in its performance..
So, liverpool needs to sack him first and we will see him as a new coach for german national team.