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June 26, 2025, 09:07:11 AM
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We all hope Ten Hag does well. The fact that United have struggled with several coaches who have been brought in other than Ten Hag proves that the problem is not only in the ability of the coach. But Ten Hag's challenge will actually start for the new season. If he does well, then the trust in him will increase and once again prove that he does have good ability. he may have to get full support from the existing team.
Manchester United’s fate with Erik Ten Hag might not be the same at Bayer Leverkusen, it might be a glory moment for Erik Ten hag ar Leverkusen or a replica of United’s fate who knows. I just hope he has learnt from his mistakes at United and takes a different approach with Leverkusen to avoid also failing at Leverkusen.

I believe that Leverkusen's management should not have pressured Erik Ten Hag to win the title, they know very well that it would be a difficult task because even with Xabi they were unable to win the title last season, so in my opinion Erik Ten Hag's task is much simpler: finish in second or third place and manage to get as far as they can in the European Champions League and try to win some German Cup.

Erik Ten Hag's task at Leverkusen is much easier compared to when he was at Manchester United, we will see if he works the same magic as when he was Ajax coach, but I root for Bayern to win the title again next season.

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June 26, 2025, 10:36:23 AM
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There is no point in predicting that Leverkusen won't make it into the Champions League. They are one of the top 6 teams with great chances to qualify, why would they not? And more importantly, who would qualify instead of them, i. e. beat them in the Bundesliga in 34 rounds?


What happens is that many are speculating due to the entry of Ten Hag , it is normal that they can make bad predictions due to the bad performance he had with the MU, however things are different now we have to believe in the redemption of people, now they have a very good opportunity to do things well with this team even so if they see that the team goes down a lot then they will simply look for another coach, the Germans do not look like the MU that can withstand losing so much.


That is the same for every coach joining a new club, they start from scratch more or less although Xabi Alonso left a good portion of an intact team behind. It's not like all the players left. Losing Frimpong and Wirtz is tough though.

When Xabi Alonso is the colour white, ten Hag is the colour black. That is what I am curious about, I want to see whether someone managing a team like Alonso can be replaced by an egomaniac like ten Hag and still be successful.

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June 26, 2025, 11:37:09 AM
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Erik Ten Hag's task at Leverkusen is much easier compared to when he was at Manchester United, we will see if he works the same magic as when he was Ajax coach, but I root for Bayern to win the title again next season.

One of the reasons for Ten Hag's failure with Manchester United was a lot of star players at Manchester United's squad. The bonding between the players was weak. It was also very difficult to control a bunch of  star players. ten Hag had not enough experienced to control  the squad with so many star players.

But Leverkusen's condition is different. The players here are very diligent. They want to do well. The relationship between the players is also very good. If Ten Hag gets a chance to work independently, and is able to create a stable match strategy, I think we will see better performance from Leverkusen next season.

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June 26, 2025, 01:17:18 PM
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Manchester United’s fate with Erik Ten Hag might not be the same at Bayer Leverkusen, it might be a glory moment for Erik Ten hag ar Leverkusen or a replica of United’s fate who knows. I just hope he has learnt from his mistakes at United and takes a different approach with Leverkusen to avoid also failing at Leverkusen.

If Leverkusens goal is knock down Bayern and dominating Bundesliga, yeah, Ten Hags gonna wrestle. Big clubs with chasmic pocket win that fight. You know, Leverkusen doesnt have cosmic funds. Short‑term? Most likely tough.

But if the motive more strategic, pick out young talent, molding them, and raising unhurriedly, then Ten Hag may bang gold. You know, he is a youth‑driven coach. Three Eredivisie titles, a UCL semi at Ajax. Also, he has been commended by players like Tella, They forget how brilliant he was.

At Ajax he thrived because formation + training establishment = witchcraft. Now he is in Leverkusen with rock hard management and a target. Squad will change, Wirtz, Frimpong leaving, new faces arriving, just give him a couple of seasons.

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June 26, 2025, 02:40:01 PM
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Dortmund still have to wait to know their rivals. It will be a runner-up of Group E, so likely either River Plate or Inter Milan, but it also could be Mexican CF Monterrey.

Their opponents are already known, they're Monterrey. That's all clear after River Plate failed to get points in their match against Inter Milan & Monterrey's absolute win when they face URD.

Do you think there's any chance any of them could reach the final?

It's hard to think about this one, as their bracket side filled with other strong team, so far PSG there. Moreover, since they (Bayern Munich & Borussia Dortmund) are on the same bracket side, they're unlikely to meet in the final, then considering everything, I think only Bayern Munich & PSG have a strong chance to be in the final.

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That is the same for every coach joining a new club, they start from scratch more or less although Xabi Alonso left a good portion of an intact team behind. It's not like all the players left. Losing Frimpong and Wirtz is tough though.

Losing Frimpong and Wirtz was a major part of Leverkusen with Xabi. Look at the stats of how they played. Frimpong starts a lot as a starter and it's the same with Wirtz. I think Ten Hag will have big expectations and pressure because Xabi has left behind good stats. Ten Hag now just needs to work and make Leverkusen better. The German league is also not as tough as the EPL I think Ten Hag has a great chance to succeed with Leverkusen. In addition to these two, there are 3 more players being sold including Tah, Gustavo Puerta, and Odilon Kossounou.




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Manchester United’s fate with Erik Ten Hag might not be the same at Bayer Leverkusen, it might be a glory moment for Erik Ten hag ar Leverkusen or a replica of United’s fate who knows. I just hope he has learnt from his mistakes at United and takes a different approach with Leverkusen to avoid also failing at Leverkusen.

No conclusions can be made so far on Eric Ten Hag’s new managerial role in Bayern Leverkusen. Just because he had a poor form at Manchester United doesn’t mean he’ll have the same at Bayern Leverkusen. He did well at Ajax and that was what gave him the job at Manchester United which did not really favour him in the end. He may be lucky after signing at Bayern Leverkusen to even perform much more better than he has ever did in his entire career.

Kompany managed a team that was relegated and went ahead to manage a team and won them the league title in his first year of managing them. In this case, we might say the teams in questions are different and also the strength on the team could help him out. He was been criticised just like ETH is now, so if he can pass through those criticism and come out victorious, I think Eric Ten Hag can also make that happen with good coaching from him.

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No conclusions can be made so far on Eric Ten Hag’s new managerial role in Bayern Leverkusen. Just because he had a poor form at Manchester United doesn’t mean he’ll have the same at Bayern Leverkusen. He did well at Ajax and that was what gave him the job at Manchester United which did not really favour him in the end. He may be lucky after signing at Bayern Leverkusen to even perform much more better than he has ever did in his entire career.

Kompany managed a team that was relegated and went ahead to manage a team and won them the league title in his first year of managing them. In this case, we might say the teams in questions are different and also the strength on the team could help him out. He was been criticised just like ETH is now, so if he can pass through those criticism and come out victorious, I think Eric Ten Hag can also make that happen with good coaching from him.
Kompany when he was manager of Burnley in the Championship was totally different from the Burnley in the Premier League. You forgot to add that he was the person to bring them out of the championship to EPL with a marvellous performance. You can't compare that very team to the other teams in the EPL, so I really don't agree with you on the narrative of coaching a relegation team then going on to win the league the next season with another team. Kompany would have still struggled if it was Wolfsburg he was in charge of and not Bayern Munich.

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June 26, 2025, 03:26:38 PM
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Kompany when he was manager of Burnley in the Championship was totally different from the Burnley in the Premier League. You forgot to add that he was the person to bring them out of the championship to EPL with a marvellous performance. You can't compare that very team to the other teams in the EPL, so I really don't agree with you on the narrative of coaching a relegation team then going on to win the league the next season with another team. Kompany would have still struggled if it was Wolfsburg he was in charge of and not Bayern Munich.

Burnley is different from Bayern Munich and as such, he will still struggle as a manager if he had managed a team like Wolfsburg in the Bundesliga as you have said. He did better since he had a better team and a better management. Good management results to good play from the team and that is what happened when he took over the charge of Bayern Munich.

For a manager like him that was just starting out, he needed the job to show what he got even if the management can’t provide all of his needs, so his best form wouldn’t be really known managing a smaller team with no good welfarism. Now that he is coaching Bayern Munich, he has everything to show how good he is and that is why he is excelling here now. Giving him another team with no good welfarism will still make him to end up not been the best of manager in the competition once again.











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We all hope Ten Hag does well. The fact that United have struggled with several coaches who have been brought in other than Ten Hag proves that the problem is not only in the ability of the coach. But Ten Hag's challenge will actually start for the new season. If he does well, then the trust in him will increase and once again prove that he does have good ability. he may have to get full support from the existing team.
Manchester United’s fate with Erik Ten Hag might not be the same at Bayer Leverkusen, it might be a glory moment for Erik Ten hag ar Leverkusen or a replica of United’s fate who knows. I just hope he has learnt from his mistakes at United and takes a different approach with Leverkusen to avoid also failing at Leverkusen.
He should be able to learn from the past, learn from his bad failures.

In the Bundesliga it is different, not as scary as in the English Premier League where the competition is very serious and he should be able to compete in the Bundesliga, but if he is not able to it will be even worse and we can say that Erik Ten Hag is no longer competitive as a modern coach.
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Kompany when he was manager of Burnley in the Championship was totally different from the Burnley in the Premier League. You forgot to add that he was the person to bring them out of the championship to EPL with a marvellous performance. You can't compare that very team to the other teams in the EPL, so I really don't agree with you on the narrative of coaching a relegation team then going on to win the league the next season with another team. Kompany would have still struggled if it was Wolfsburg he was in charge of and not Bayern Munich.
Yes, I agree with you that if it was Wolfsburg or any average team that Kompany is coaching, and not Bayern Munich, it is very clear that he would definitely struggle and not have a chance of winning the Bundesliga in his first season and even few season to come. This is because Bayern Munich has a different quality of players compared to teams like Wolfsburg and others average teams.

Kompany is a good coach, and nobody can deny that. He has good records before starting to coach Bayern Munich. He was able to promote Burnley from championship to premier despite being the coach who still relegated them. However, the reason why Burnley was relegated was that they didn’t have great players who could withstand the Premier League level of performance. If Burnley had given Kompany money to spend, they could have had a better squad to compete in the Premier League.One of the reasons why Kompany easily won the Bundesliga is because Bayern Munich is already a big club, and that comes with a deep squad of quality players.

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June 26, 2025, 04:07:54 PM
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Manchester United’s fate with Erik Ten Hag might not be the same at Bayer Leverkusen, it might be a glory moment for Erik Ten hag ar Leverkusen or a replica of United’s fate who knows. I just hope he has learnt from his mistakes at United and takes a different approach with Leverkusen to avoid also failing at Leverkusen.
Even he is a good coach i also have that concern about Erik Ten Hag that this can be happen again.
Hopefully he has learnd something from that mistake and can give Leverkusen some new spirit or more.

Losing Frimpong and Wirtz was a major part of Leverkusen with Xabi. Look at the stats of how they played.
Yes this 2 key players left a big whole in the team of Leverkusen.
Wirtz is the most missing one for sure.
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June 26, 2025, 05:19:30 PM
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What happens is that many are speculating due to the entry of Ten Hag , it is normal that they can make bad predictions due to the bad performance he had with the MU, however things are different now we have to believe in the redemption of people, now they have a very good opportunity to do things well with this team even so if they see that the team goes down a lot then they will simply look for another coach, the Germans do not look like the MU that can withstand losing so much.
That is the same for every coach joining a new club, they start from scratch more or less although Xabi Alonso left a good portion of an intact team behind. It's not like all the players left. Losing Frimpong and Wirtz is tough though.

When Xabi Alonso is the colour white, ten Hag is the colour black. That is what I am curious about, I want to see whether someone managing a team like Alonso can be replaced by an egomaniac like ten Hag and still be successful.
Bayer Leverkusen and Manchester United are completely different places with now it's surely challenging time for Erik ten Hag because Bayer Leverkusen is currently had better situation then Manchester United, and he can bring better results as well.

Even lost of few players surely going to have impact, but now he can bring few those could be give better, and they can keep balance in this club too much negative hype about his arrival but still he is capable of giving good results as he has done at Ajax for me, he can be successful here. Xabi Alonso done amazing stuff but now it's also test case for Bayer Leverkusen because challenges are increased, and they are having hard time for staying into good place can they survive with ETH it's another big challenge like Vincent Kompany done at Bayern Munich.

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June 26, 2025, 05:28:23 PM
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Kompany when he was manager of Burnley in the Championship was totally different from the Burnley in the Premier League. You forgot to add that he was the person to bring them out of the championship to EPL with a marvellous performance. You can't compare that very team to the other teams in the EPL, so I really don't agree with you on the narrative of coaching a relegation team then going on to win the league the next season with another team. Kompany would have still struggled if it was Wolfsburg he was in charge of and not Bayern Munich.
I agree with your view about all point here it's never been easy to manage teams those are having no good sources specially like mentioned Wolfsburg because they are not capable of doing like Bayern Munich, or they are not having depth like Bayern Munich.

Vincent Kompany still can go down if he fails to keep things on balance and Bayern Munich not able to secure wins because he needs to keep eye on always with having good coordination between players and also another important thing needs to be had suitable replacements which give them good performance in case of injuries because many clubs struggle just because of this. Few coaches had good start of their career which surely can help them but still time can keep changing so they needed to have changes into their strategy which allow their players for having better performance.
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We all hope Ten Hag does well. The fact that United have struggled with several coaches who have been brought in other than Ten Hag proves that the problem is not only in the ability of the coach. But Ten Hag's challenge will actually start for the new season. If he does well, then the trust in him will increase and once again prove that he does have good ability. he may have to get full support from the existing team.
Manchester United’s fate with Erik Ten Hag might not be the same at Bayer Leverkusen, it might be a glory moment for Erik Ten hag ar Leverkusen or a replica of United’s fate who knows. I just hope he has learnt from his mistakes at United and takes a different approach with Leverkusen to avoid also failing at Leverkusen.

Let's just wait and see how his debut with Bayer Leverkusen is, whether ETH is able to maintain and improve Leverkusen's existence so that it is always able to compete at the top of the Bundesliga, or vice versa. Because indeed considering this is the first time ETH has coached a club playing in the Bundesliga, maybe we will see many experiments carried out by ETH, but hopefully the experiments he did can be successful, and get good results for the progress of Bayer Leverkusen.
I'm expecting to see more progress in Leverkusen not leadership of Erik Ten Hag because you will start with a better team that already built with teamwork the work here is very easy compared to that of Manchester United when things are very rough and the expectation are very high. IT result to two things when they expectation are very high, it either the team improve with high chances or decline without any recovery easily, Manchester United problems is very complicated because even after Erik Ten Hag left the team they are still badly to make it to the top hopefully maybe this season something could we come out from their effort. Erik Ten Hag been in Leverkusen is going to be a great advantage for him because he met a team that is very strong and they are also named among the top team in Bundesliga, so only small effort is required to make a name shine again.

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June 26, 2025, 05:54:31 PM
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We all hope Ten Hag does well. The fact that United have struggled with several coaches who have been brought in other than Ten Hag proves that the problem is not only in the ability of the coach. But Ten Hag's challenge will actually start for the new season. If he does well, then the trust in him will increase and once again prove that he does have good ability. he may have to get full support from the existing team.
Manchester United’s fate with Erik Ten Hag might not be the same at Bayer Leverkusen, it might be a glory moment for Erik Ten hag ar Leverkusen or a replica of United’s fate who knows. I just hope he has learnt from his mistakes at United and takes a different approach with Leverkusen to avoid also failing at Leverkusen.
Of course, Ten Hag accepted this job ready to accept the consequences and he coached Leverkusen to prove that he is still worthy of being a coach. If he succeeds in bringing Leverkusen better, it means that when coaching Man United, the problem is not with the coach but with the management. Moreover, this is the second chance for Ten Hag to have a career in Germany, after previously he also handled Bayern II in 2013-2015. So at least he already has experience.

Coaching Leverkusen certainly does not have as high expectations as when he was recruited to Man United, but maintaining Leverkusen as Bayern's main competitor is not an easy task. However, with the experience he has and the foundation that Xabi Alanso has built before, it will be a good capital for Ten Hag in coaching Leverkusen to continue to show consistent performance and compete with Bayern Munich next season.

 
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June 26, 2025, 05:57:44 PM
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Losing Frimpong and Wirtz was a major part of Leverkusen with Xabi. Look at the stats of how they played. Frimpong starts a lot as a starter and it's the same with Wirtz. I think Ten Hag will have big expectations and pressure because Xabi has left behind good stats. Ten Hag now just needs to work and make Leverkusen better. The German league is also not as tough as the EPL I think Ten Hag has a great chance to succeed with Leverkusen. In addition to these two, there are 3 more players being sold including Tah, Gustavo Puerta, and Odilon Kossounou.
Xabi was the reason why Leverkusen could compete with Bayern for the title. Losing him to Madrid gave no clarity about club's future. So Wirtz and Frimpong follows him. Leverkusen is officially back as a mid table team by losing those guys. Bundesliga seems to be a farmer league again by Bayern.

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June 26, 2025, 06:09:07 PM
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We all hope Ten Hag does well. The fact that United have struggled with several coaches who have been brought in other than Ten Hag proves that the problem is not only in the ability of the coach. But Ten Hag's challenge will actually start for the new season. If he does well, then the trust in him will increase and once again prove that he does have good ability. he may have to get full support from the existing team.
Manchester United’s fate with Erik Ten Hag might not be the same at Bayer Leverkusen, it might be a glory moment for Erik Ten hag ar Leverkusen or a replica of United’s fate who knows. I just hope he has learnt from his mistakes at United and takes a different approach with Leverkusen to avoid also failing at Leverkusen.
The way this ten hag Leverkusen managed Manchester United, if they manage Leverkusen in the same way, then it won't take long for Leverkusen to go through bad times. Many might be thinking that this manager can do well for Leverkusen but how is that possible. Manchester United has given this manager enough financial freedom and given him enough time, after getting so much, how will a manager who could not improve Manchester United's performance improve Leverkusen's performance? And I think that this manager will not get as much opportunity at Leverkusen as he got at Manchester United, rather if he manages the team badly for one season, he may lose his job.
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June 26, 2025, 06:26:28 PM
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I also heard that they are bidding for Gabriel Martinelli of Arsenal, they are calm for now because their top target Nico Williams is yet to be sold despite the fact that the player still wants Barcelona as his first choice and negotiations are already going on between both parties; once they have a final say, then I think Bayern Munich will make move for Martinelli which can be sold if Arsenal also get Rodrigo from Real Madrid.

Arsenal have Martinelli and Trossard as players available on the left wing. If they don't plan to make a big LW signing then I don't think they would let Martinelli go. Trossard is also getting old you know.

Rodrygo? As far as I have heard, Xabi Alonso wants to give him a place in his lineup. That's why he must have decided to stay.

On top of that they have enough good players that can fill out the role as an Striker , Kane makes her a good thing.

Kane is one of their main goal sources. If he picks up a serious injury, they are likely to have more problems in my opinion.  Sad  Yeah they can use some other player temporarily but I doubt it would have the same effect on the team.

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