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January 06, 2023, 09:58:09 AM
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So it will be Djokovic vs Shapovalov, anyone looking at the over 20.5 here at still a decent odds for 1.80?

I'm thinking that this might go over with this score as Djokovic has not been found his rhythm, he needed to go this his bag of tricks in order to survived that game because we think it was over for him, 3-5 with Quentin Halys, serving, no one thought that he will make that huge comeback.

20.5 should be good, I do not see Djokovic pushing a lot, just like today, he make it when needed, and play as on trainings

and it is good for self-confidence, winning two tie-breaks, instead of winning comfortable 6:2 or something, where you hardly have a chance to stretch, and he is confident that when needed, he will stretch enough to pick-up a win in the end
it all end-up on Shapovalov, if he serves good, probably at least one set going to tie-breaks again

Ok, the match hasn't started yet, and there was some movement from yesterday's initial odds.

So I did put a decent bet again before the game, over 21.5 at 1.88.

Yeah, let's see how Dennis is going to play, he should try to push Djokovic here in the first and see how Novak will react just like in this match against Quentin Halys.
I don't like to bet on matches like that, it is just coin toss for me. Shapovalov is way unstable player to count on him against Djoković. If he gets a good serving day he can even win but if few close calls go against him he will add a couple of more double faults and then Djoković will steamroll over him.

It is still way to early to make serious bets on tennis and I agree that the best way is to try and play against favorites. If I had to take a bet on this match, it would be Shapovalov +5.5 @1.6

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January 06, 2023, 11:20:22 AM
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The issue of vaccination against Covid-19 is catching up with Djokovic again. He is allowed to participate in the Australian Open because the new government lifted the ban for 3 years. However, there are still some countries that require a vaccination for the entry. Here it is the USA. The vaccination requirement has been extended until at least 10 April. During this time there are two tournaments in March. Indian Wells and Miami. So it will probably be the case that he will not play there.

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January 06, 2023, 01:07:51 PM
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So it will be Djokovic vs Shapovalov, anyone looking at the over 20.5 here at still a decent odds for 1.80?

I'm thinking that this might go over with this score as Djokovic has not been found his rhythm, he needed to go this his bag of tricks in order to survived that game because we think it was over for him, 3-5 with Quentin Halys, serving, no one thought that he will make that huge comeback.

20.5 should be good, I do not see Djokovic pushing a lot, just like today, he make it when needed, and play as on trainings

and it is good for self-confidence, winning two tie-breaks, instead of winning comfortable 6:2 or something, where you hardly have a chance to stretch, and he is confident that when needed, he will stretch enough to pick-up a win in the end
it all end-up on Shapovalov, if he serves good, probably at least one set going to tie-breaks again

Ok, the match hasn't started yet, and there was some movement from yesterday's initial odds.

So I did put a decent bet again before the game, over 21.5 at 1.88.

Yeah, let's see how Dennis is going to play, he should try to push Djokovic here in the first and see how Novak will react just like in this match against Quentin Halys.
I don't like to bet on matches like that, it is just coin toss for me. Shapovalov is way unstable player to count on him against Djoković. If he gets a good serving day he can even win but if few close calls go against him he will add a couple of more double faults and then Djoković will steamroll over him.

It is still way to early to make serious bets on tennis and I agree that the best way is to try and play against favorites. If I had to take a bet on this match, it would be Shapovalov +5.5 @1.6

And that would have won the bet, Djokovic win the match 6-3 and 6-4. We have a very
interesting semi final tomorrow, Djokovic v Medvedev - that's going to be a close one
and I have no idea what way that will go, neither player has dropped a set so far.

TBH I'll probably skip betting on that.

The other semi final is Korda v Nishioka, again Korda has not dropped a set either, I fancy
a win for him.

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January 06, 2023, 04:58:24 PM
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And that would have won the bet, Djokovic win the match 6-3 and 6-4.
It is by far the best bet to take when thinking someone would have close match. +5.5 handicap is the only bet that guarantees you win if favorite does not make more than 2 breaks. All other versions or +4.5 handicap have ways of being annoyingly close but not good enough in the end. You just know you are loosing +4.5 handicap when favorite serves first. I like to eliminate stuff like that from my betting outcome even if it means lower base odds.

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January 06, 2023, 05:41:39 PM
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Both djokovic and medvedev had easy wins with a 2 0 score against decent opponents its the perfect begining of year for both players but unfortunately they will face each other next on the adelaid tournament, its a hard surface so i expect it to be a total war djokovic is in a better shape i think he will win but with an extreme difficulty i expect a 3 sets game.
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January 06, 2023, 05:46:19 PM
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Both djokovic and medvedev had easy wins with a 2 0 score against decent opponents its the perfect begining of year for both players but unfortunately they will face each other next on the adelaid tournament, its a hard surface so i expect it to be a total war djokovic is in a better shape i think he will win but with an extreme difficulty i expect a 3 sets game.

We should expect total war from both players in this semi final. Both players love this hard surface and they are the best on it so i think we might see a three set match. I would pick over in this match and djokovic to win against medvedev

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January 06, 2023, 07:43:11 PM
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I would pick over in this match and djokovic to win against medvedev

Medvedev and Zverev, when in form, are probably closest to Djokovic on hard surface, and this could be interesting
but I don't see Medvedev winning, since he was far from best form, and it is season beginning, Djokovic is holding much better when comes to tough matches in early phase

and it is almost a tournament win, although it is far from important for both players
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ALcaraz has posted a message on his Twitter account that he cannot participate in the Autralian Open. A pity for the tournament and for the organization, but also for himself. A fairly harmless movement has caused this injury. Since the Australian Open is not yet to start, it seems to be a fairly serious injury. Otherwise he would have had at least 1.5 weeks to recover and maybe longer. The way for other players is now open. I wonder how Djokovic will play. With the women it also takes some getting used to since Barty stopped last year. There seems to me only 1 person to be the real favorite for the title; the player who only won a lot last year.

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January 06, 2023, 10:35:41 PM
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ALcaraz has posted a message on his Twitter account that he cannot participate in the Autralian Open. A pity for the tournament and for the organization, but also for himself. A fairly harmless movement has caused this injury. Since the Australian Open is not yet to start, it seems to be a fairly serious injury. Otherwise he would have had at least 1.5 weeks to recover and maybe longer. The way for other players is now open. I wonder how Djokovic will play. With the women it also takes some getting used to since Barty stopped last year. There seems to me only 1 person to be the real favorite for the title; the player who only won a lot last year.

This is some bad news for the tournament because we arent gonna see the no1 at the tournament. This will probobly mean that he will lose the first position aswell because he aint getting any points. Djokovic to win the title now looks even more realistic now that Alcaraz wont play on AO.

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January 07, 2023, 03:50:49 AM
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ALcaraz has posted a message on his Twitter account that he cannot participate in the Autralian Open. A pity for the tournament and for the organization, but also for himself. A fairly harmless movement has caused this injury. Since the Australian Open is not yet to start, it seems to be a fairly serious injury. Otherwise he would have had at least 1.5 weeks to recover and maybe longer. The way for other players is now open. I wonder how Djokovic will play. With the women it also takes some getting used to since Barty stopped last year. There seems to me only 1 person to be the real favorite for the title; the player who only won a lot last year.

Oh that's bad if we are not going to see him at the Australian Open for this year. So does this mean it's a clear path for Djokovic to take this years AO although he is the betting favorite.

Just a few glimpse on the Adelaide tournament, not betting though, as I'm looking at that AO to be the first tournament that I'm going to bet for this year.

Good matchup though between, Djokovic and Medvedev next.

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January 07, 2023, 05:26:11 AM
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Both djokovic and medvedev had easy wins with a 2 0 score against decent opponents its the perfect begining of year for both players but unfortunately they will face each other next on the adelaid tournament, its a hard surface so i expect it to be a total war djokovic is in a better shape i think he will win but with an extreme difficulty i expect a 3 sets game.
Two more days, the Australian Open will start soon, and all tennis players have prepared themselves, I'm interested in watching Novak and Medvedev. it seems that the mandatory vaccine has not been enforced so strictly lol. djokovic is a difficult opponent to beat and medvedev must be able to play clean, I curious if there will be a novak vs medvedev fight!

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January 07, 2023, 05:55:56 AM
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ALcaraz has posted a message on his Twitter account that he cannot participate in the Autralian Open. A pity for the tournament and for the organization, but also for himself. A fairly harmless movement has caused this injury. Since the Australian Open is not yet to start, it seems to be a fairly serious injury. Otherwise he would have had at least 1.5 weeks to recover and maybe longer. The way for other players is now open. I wonder how Djokovic will play. With the women it also takes some getting used to since Barty stopped last year. There seems to me only 1 person to be the real favorite for the title; the player who only won a lot last year.

This is some bad news for the tournament because we arent gonna see the no1 at the tournament. This will probobly mean that he will lose the first position aswell because he aint getting any points. Djokovic to win the title now looks even more realistic now that Alcaraz wont play on AO.
It is very sad to see young players who have many chances to win but are hindered because he often face injuries. This is not the first injury that has forced Alcaraz to rest and lost the opportunity to play in several major tournaments.
Djokovic is the clear favorite here, and Alcaraz's absence increases his chances of winning the title again.

Two more days, the Australian Open will start soon, and all tennis players have prepared themselves,
2 more days it looks like only the qualifying matches for players who are out of rank to be able to play in the first round of this tournament, the main draw will begin January 16th.

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January 07, 2023, 12:23:06 PM
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And that would have won the bet, Djokovic win the match 6-3 and 6-4.
It is by far the best bet to take when thinking someone would have close match. +5.5 handicap is the only bet that guarantees you win if favorite does not make more than 2 breaks. All other versions or +4.5 handicap have ways of being annoyingly close but not good enough in the end. You just know you are loosing +4.5 handicap when favorite serves first. I like to eliminate stuff like that from my betting outcome even if it means lower base odds.

Good insight Trofo, thanks for that.

ALcaraz has posted a message on his Twitter account that he cannot participate in the Autralian Open. A pity for the tournament and for the organization, but also for himself. A fairly harmless movement has caused this injury. Since the Australian Open is not yet to start, it seems to be a fairly serious injury. Otherwise he would have had at least 1.5 weeks to recover and maybe longer. The way for other players is now open. I wonder how Djokovic will play. With the women it also takes some getting used to since Barty stopped last year. There seems to me only 1 person to be the real favorite for the title; the player who only won a lot last year.

This is some bad news for the tournament because we arent gonna see the no1 at the tournament. This will probobly mean that he will lose the first position aswell because he aint getting any points. Djokovic to win the title now looks even more realistic now that Alcaraz wont play on AO.

It's bad news for sure, I'm a bit worried that he is picking up injuries so early in his career.

Djokovic has beaten Medvedev and is into the final at Adelaide so yea it seems that he
is totally driven for this year, of course the 5 set matches are different but ATM he is performing
well.

With 1 top player missing in the AO so far it means there is one less threat for him.

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January 07, 2023, 07:28:22 PM
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ALcaraz has posted a message on his Twitter account that he cannot participate in the Autralian Open. A pity for the tournament and for the organization, but also for himself. A fairly harmless movement has caused this injury. Since the Australian Open is not yet to start, it seems to be a fairly serious injury. Otherwise he would have had at least 1.5 weeks to recover and maybe longer. The way for other players is now open. I wonder how Djokovic will play. With the women it also takes some getting used to since Barty stopped last year. There seems to me only 1 person to be the real favorite for the title; the player who only won a lot last year.

This is some bad news for the tournament because we arent gonna see the no1 at the tournament. This will probobly mean that he will lose the first position aswell because he aint getting any points. Djokovic to win the title now looks even more realistic now that Alcaraz wont play on AO.
Yes i agree this will make winning the tournament much easier for djokovich with a tough opponent like alcaraz gone, djokovic this year seem the best player so far especially after seeing him beat medvedev easily yesterday he is surely the favourite now, we will see more after seeing the players performance in the tournament.
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January 07, 2023, 07:35:24 PM
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ALcaraz has posted a message on his Twitter account that he cannot participate in the Autralian Open. A pity for the tournament and for the organization, but also for himself. A fairly harmless movement has caused this injury. Since the Australian Open is not yet to start, it seems to be a fairly serious injury. Otherwise he would have had at least 1.5 weeks to recover and maybe longer. The way for other players is now open. I wonder how Djokovic will play. With the women it also takes some getting used to since Barty stopped last year. There seems to me only 1 person to be the real favorite for the title; the player who only won a lot last year.

Oh that's bad if we are not going to see him at the Australian Open for this year. So does this mean it's a clear path for Djokovic to take this years AO although he is the betting favorite.

Just a few glimpse on the Adelaide tournament, not betting though, as I'm looking at that AO to be the first tournament that I'm going to bet for this year.

Good matchup though between, Djokovic and Medvedev next.

I agree with you, Djokovic always plays very well in Australia and he won most of his GS titles in Australia.
Djokovic beat Medvedev 6-3 6-4 a few hours ago and is close to winning the tournament in Adelaide.
Alcaraz's withdrawal will certainly help Djokovic to win the GS tournament in Australia more easily, and this may be his last chance to catch up with Nadal in the number of GS titles.
He will certainly not be the favorite in Paris if Nadal plays, and in America he still cannot because of the strict Covid rules.

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January 07, 2023, 07:39:09 PM
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ALcaraz has posted a message on his Twitter account that he cannot participate in the Autralian Open. A pity for the tournament and for the organization, but also for himself. A fairly harmless movement has caused this injury. Since the Australian Open is not yet to start, it seems to be a fairly serious injury. Otherwise he would have had at least 1.5 weeks to recover and maybe longer. The way for other players is now open. I wonder how Djokovic will play. With the women it also takes some getting used to since Barty stopped last year. There seems to me only 1 person to be the real favorite for the title; the player who only won a lot last year.

This is some bad news for the tournament because we arent gonna see the no1 at the tournament. This will probobly mean that he will lose the first position aswell because he aint getting any points. Djokovic to win the title now looks even more realistic now that Alcaraz wont play on AO.
Yes i agree this will make winning the tournament much easier for djokovich with a tough opponent like alcaraz gone, djokovic this year seem the best player so far especially after seeing him beat medvedev easily yesterday he is surely the favourite now, we will see more after seeing the players performance in the tournament.
In the Madrid open semifinals Djokovic got defeated by Alcaraz. Just for that reason we can't say Alcaraz to be the only competent. We've got a big list of young players who have been on the lead. For Djokovic this year is going to be very competent. If the covid-19 restrictions come to effect, then surely Djokovic will miss few tournaments.

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January 07, 2023, 11:40:08 PM
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so Djokovic will face Korda in the final of Adelaide, they both haven't lost a set yet in the tournament, but things will change in the final, Djokovic to win is set @1.17 which is really low, i don't really know what to bet on in this game, all i can think of is Djokovic to win in two sets, maybe the bookmakers know what they're doing, it's kinda low but the best i can get out of this final and those odds.

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so Djokovic will face Korda in the final of Adelaide, they both haven't lost a set yet in the tournament, but things will change in the final, Djokovic to win is set @1.17 which is really low, i don't really know what to bet on in this game, all i can think of is Djokovic to win in two sets, maybe the bookmakers know what they're doing, it's kinda low but the best i can get out of this final and those odds.

Well he is 1.47 ATM in the tie break if the first set. this IMO is a fantastic price on someone
like Djokovic. Losing the first set is not detrimental at all.



He is gone out to 1.7 now after losing that tie break. This is a big opportunity to bet on Djokovic
winning the next two sets.

He really wants/needs to win this tournament to set the stage for this season to take back
that #1 spot.

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January 08, 2023, 12:20:34 PM
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''Two-time champion Naomi Osaka has withdrawn from this year's Australian Open just eight days before the start of the tournament.''
''Osaka, a winner in Melbourne in 2019 and 2021, has not played on the WTA Tour since September and has slipped to 42 in the world rankings.''
''No reason was given for the 25-year-old Japanese player's withdrawal.''

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/64201877

I really like Osaka as a tennis player and I was really hoping that she would finally return to top level tennis and that we would see her in Australia.
Unfortunately, it seems that she can't overcome her mental problems and is further away from returning to the top of world tennis.
It's a shame because it's really a big loss for world tennis to lose such a great tennis champion.
Do you think there is still hope for Osaka to return to tennis?
Serena also ended her great tennis career and now women's tennis has become less interesting to watch for me, I believe others too.

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January 08, 2023, 01:47:05 PM
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Shame to hear the news about Alcaraz, I expected him to be the biggest obstacle for Đoković. He was actually the 1st seed, correct?

Đoković had some problems with Korda today and I don't feel he's in perfect rhythm so far. I still feel he's the man to beat, but I also feel he'll struggle more than what we were used to seeing before.

The first matches are only a few days away, I'm really looking forward to the AO.

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