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December 24, 2022, 08:13:11 PM
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Carlos ALcaraz is probably the best tennis player for the future. Putting yourself in the row with Ferderer, Djokovic and Nadal that will not work for the time being. Those 3 literally and figuratively lifted the tennis level to a high level and were a great inspiration for many tennis players. I also don't know if we're going to get a lot of rivalry at the top, it would be good because they can keep each other on their toes. You should think of players like Jack Sinner for example. And I'm still curious how long Nadal and Djokovic can continue playing tennis. Nadal seems to be a bit more injury prone, so maybe his end will come sooner than we all want and think.

Alcaraz didnt deserve the first place at all. He just got lucky that wimbledon didnt count and that djokovic couldnt play both australian open and us open. If Djokovic played at least half of the tournaments he would be in a huge lead. There is no doubt that he is the future but not even close to the big 3

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December 25, 2022, 08:10:53 AM
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Carlos ALcaraz is probably the best tennis player for the future. Putting yourself in the row with Ferderer, Djokovic and Nadal that will not work for the time being. Those 3 literally and figuratively lifted the tennis level to a high level and were a great inspiration for many tennis players. I also don't know if we're going to get a lot of rivalry at the top, it would be good because they can keep each other on their toes. You should think of players like Jack Sinner for example. And I'm still curious how long Nadal and Djokovic can continue playing tennis. Nadal seems to be a bit more injury prone, so maybe his end will come sooner than we all want and think.

Alcaraz didnt deserve the first place at all. He just got lucky that wimbledon didnt count and that djokovic couldnt play both australian open and us open. If Djokovic played at least half of the tournaments he would be in a huge lead. There is no doubt that he is the future but not even close to the big 3
Alcaraz can't measure with big three since he just started his career. But he is the player that can blow any of the big three from the pitch on his day. He still has to learn how to cope and come on top in matches when it is not his day. That is something that Nadal and Djoković do better than anyone, they just hang in the match and mix their game until they find the crack in your game and then they destroy the opponents. But Alcaraz really has it all, great shots, ability to run down even the toughest balls and great mentality for somebody that young. I don't see anybody except Djoković even challenging him for number one. If Djoković can play all the top tournaments this season he will be top of the list even with mediocre results, he has very little points to defend.

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December 26, 2022, 09:06:42 AM
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Theoretically the way I look at it is that Nadal and Djokovic have pretty much developed their
game to the max whereas the younger generation and in particular Alcaraz are still developing.

I would like to think that Alcaraz in 2023 will be much better than 2022 and should pose more
of a threat to everyone including Djokovic.

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December 26, 2022, 09:42:14 AM
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Theoretically the way I look at it is that Nadal and Djokovic have pretty much developed their
game to the max whereas the younger generation and in particular Alcaraz are still developing.

Could be, we are already in 2022 era, so most likely this old guard will have to retire because they have max their potential already. To the point that when they tried, their body is no longer responding to them, the way we see on Federer and then it starts to deteriorate, wear and tear on this body caught up with the. But the good news is that we have a new set of players going to take over from them.

I would like to think that Alcaraz in 2023 will be much better than 2022 and should pose more
of a threat to everyone including Djokovic.

I agree, by leaps and bounds, sure in 2022 he had a break out run, but Alcaraz would dominate next year just like Djokovic did when he was younger. So it's good to see the old and the young generations fighting it out in any of the Grand Slams for next year.

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December 26, 2022, 09:52:09 AM
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Carlos ALcaraz is probably the best tennis player for the future. Putting yourself in the row with Ferderer, Djokovic and Nadal that will not work for the time being. Those 3 literally and figuratively lifted the tennis level to a high level and were a great inspiration for many tennis players. I also don't know if we're going to get a lot of rivalry at the top, it would be good because they can keep each other on their toes. You should think of players like Jack Sinner for example. And I'm still curious how long Nadal and Djokovic can continue playing tennis. Nadal seems to be a bit more injury prone, so maybe his end will come sooner than we all want and think.
Alcaraz didnt deserve the first place at all. He just got lucky that wimbledon didnt count and that djokovic couldnt play both australian open and us open. If Djokovic played at least half of the tournaments he would be in a huge lead. There is no doubt that he is the future but not even close to the big 3
Alcaraz can't measure with big three since he just started his career. But he is the player that can blow any of the big three from the pitch on his day. He still has to learn how to cope and come on top in matches when it is not his day. That is something that Nadal and Djoković do better than anyone, they just hang in the match and mix their game until they find the crack in your game and then they destroy the opponents. But Alcaraz really has it all, great shots, ability to run down even the toughest balls and great mentality for somebody that young. I don't see anybody except Djoković even challenging him for number one. If Djoković can play all the top tournaments this season he will be top of the list even with mediocre results, he has very little points to defend.

Alcaraz can certainly be one of the best in the world. But my opinion is that we should not compare him with the big three already as you said. First of all that is going to give him a massive ego. And another thing is, he might actually find trouble living up to their expectations because of being compared with the greatest so early in his career. Seeing him not being able to live up to the expectation can cause his career to go towards a downward spiral. And I think as he is still young, he has a lot to learn. And I also see no one except Novak Djokovic challenging him for that number one spot right now. So that should make things a little easier for him.

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December 26, 2022, 10:09:47 PM
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Theoretically the way I look at it is that Nadal and Djokovic have pretty much developed their
game to the max whereas the younger generation and in particular Alcaraz are still developing.

I would like to think that Alcaraz in 2023 will be much better than 2022 and should pose more
of a threat to everyone including Djokovic.
2023 will be even better for Alcaraz. Born after 2000 and reaching the No.1 position is really big thing in Tennis. When we talk of the experience from Djokovic, he have got almost double the years of Alcaraz age. So, the matches will be between the experience and the young ones. For now one match is being faced by the two. So, upcoming matches between them will have big expectation.

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December 26, 2022, 10:37:59 PM
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Theoretically the way I look at it is that Nadal and Djokovic have pretty much developed their
game to the max whereas the younger generation and in particular Alcaraz are still developing.

Could be, we are already in 2022 era, so most likely this old guard will have to retire because they have max their potential already. To the point that when they tried, their body is no longer responding to them, the way we see on Federer and then it starts to deteriorate, wear and tear on this body caught up with the. But the good news is that we have a new set of players going to take over from them.

I would like to think that Alcaraz in 2023 will be much better than 2022 and should pose more
of a threat to everyone including Djokovic.

I agree, by leaps and bounds, sure in 2022 he had a break out run, but Alcaraz would dominate next year just like Djokovic did when he was younger. So it's good to see the old and the young generations fighting it out in any of the Grand Slams for next year.

That is something to really look forward to. The older generation and the next generation are playing at a better level than they did 10 years ago. The older players are losing their energy more slowly than the players 10 years ago. I always find it interesting to see how a new generation grows up and how the older players slowly understand that their time is over.

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Theoretically the way I look at it is that Nadal and Djokovic have pretty much developed their
game to the max whereas the younger generation and in particular Alcaraz are still developing.

I would like to think that Alcaraz in 2023 will be much better than 2022 and should pose more
of a threat to everyone including Djokovic.
2023 will be even better for Alcaraz. Born after 2000 and reaching the No.1 position is really big thing in Tennis. When we talk of the experience from Djokovic, he have got almost double the years of Alcaraz age. So, the matches will be between the experience and the young ones. For now one match is being faced by the two. So, upcoming matches between them will have big expectation.
I'm expecting 2023 to be a really exciting season for tennis, a lot of players will be back and probably play more than they did in 2022, we didn't see a lot from Alexander Zverev and Dominik thiem who were on fire before, injuries and the pandemic really ruined it for them, but I'm expecting them to get back strong next yea for sure.

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Theoretically the way I look at it is that Nadal and Djokovic have pretty much developed their
game to the max whereas the younger generation and in particular Alcaraz are still developing.

I would like to think that Alcaraz in 2023 will be much better than 2022 and should pose more
of a threat to everyone including Djokovic.
2023 will be even better for Alcaraz. Born after 2000 and reaching the No.1 position is really big thing in Tennis. When we talk of the experience from Djokovic, he have got almost double the years of Alcaraz age. So, the matches will be between the experience and the young ones. For now one match is being faced by the two. So, upcoming matches between them will have big expectation.
I'm expecting 2023 to be a really exciting season for tennis, a lot of players will be back and probably play more than they did in 2022, we didn't see a lot from Alexander Zverev and Dominik thiem who were on fire before, injuries and the pandemic really ruined it for them, but I'm expecting them to get back strong next yea for sure.
Injuries were common with the players and mostly they'll recover physically at the earliest. The difficulty arises coming back to the form. Most of the players will be in good form before the injury and after recovering from the injury it takes them lot of time to comeback to the form. Once again the pandemic situation have shut the normal moving condition in few countries. We don't know how far the restrictions gonna get implemented.

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 #12811

Theoretically the way I look at it is that Nadal and Djokovic have pretty much developed their
game to the max whereas the younger generation and in particular Alcaraz are still developing.

I would like to think that Alcaraz in 2023 will be much better than 2022 and should pose more
of a threat to everyone including Djokovic.
2023 will be even better for Alcaraz. Born after 2000 and reaching the No.1 position is really big thing in Tennis. When we talk of the experience from Djokovic, he have got almost double the years of Alcaraz age. So, the matches will be between the experience and the young ones. For now one match is being faced by the two. So, upcoming matches between them will have big expectation.
I'm expecting 2023 to be a really exciting season for tennis, a lot of players will be back and probably play more than they did in 2022, we didn't see a lot from Alexander Zverev and Dominik thiem who were on fire before, injuries and the pandemic really ruined it for them, but I'm expecting them to get back strong next yea for sure.

Yea it should be a massive year with things more or less back to normal and big players
back in action again, Djokovicunrestricted, Zverev and Thiem, Nadal should
be fresh.

Hard court season starts next week in Adelaide Australia ending on the 8th and the first
GS of the season starting on the 16th. Can't wait!

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 #12812

The indirect successor of the Hopman Cup in Australia starts at Thursday. Some interesting players starts at the United Cup and use this tournament as preparation for the Australian Open. One of them is Alexander Zverev who will be back in action after his injury. Furthermore, Kyrgios will be there, who of course, as an Australian, cannot be missed. His first match will be against Norrie.

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I haven't paid too much attention to the United Cup before. It seems like the players play
in teams per country. Kyrgios was indeed set to play but has pulled out, which is a bit
of a shocker I think.

Everyone knows he doesn't play a full season, he skips tournaments but was expected
to play this as it's a home tournament.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/dec/28/nick-kyrgios-stuns-united-cup-teammates-by-withdrawing-at-11th-hour

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World No 22 Kyrgios was expected to spearhead the Australian team, facing Great Britain’s
Cameron Norrie in Sydney on Thursday night, but withdrew from the mixed-gender
tournament just before Wednesday’s scheduled press conference.

Kyrgios was also due to play Rafael Nadal in the most eagerly anticipated match-up
of the event when Australia meet Spain next week.

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December 29, 2022, 01:14:01 AM
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The indirect successor of the Hopman Cup in Australia starts at Thursday. Some interesting players starts at the United Cup and use this tournament as preparation for the Australian Open. One of them is Alexander Zverev who will be back in action after his injury. Furthermore, Kyrgios will be there, who of course, as an Australian, cannot be missed. His first match will be against Norrie.

It is going to be exciting to watch how Kyrgios performs during the tournament. There is no doubt that the players will use this as a warm-up for the Australian Open. Alexander Zverev is going to be very determined to prove that he is still the number one player in the world after suffering that injury. I am looking forward to seeing him perform well at the Hopman Cup next season.

Kyrgios is expected to win his first match against Norrie, according to my predictions.

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December 29, 2022, 06:51:26 AM
Last edit: December 29, 2022, 07:06:19 AM by aoluain
 #12815

The indirect successor of the Hopman Cup in Australia starts at Thursday. Some interesting players starts at the United Cup and use this tournament as preparation for the Australian Open. One of them is Alexander Zverev who will be back in action after his injury. Furthermore, Kyrgios will be there, who of course, as an Australian, cannot be missed. His first match will be against Norrie.

It is going to be exciting to watch how Kyrgios performs during the tournament. There is no doubt that the players will use this as a warm-up for the Australian Open. Alexander Zverev is going to be very determined to prove that he is still the number one player in the world after suffering that injury. I am looking forward to seeing him perform well at the Hopman Cup next season.

Kyrgios is expected to win his first match against Norrie, according to my predictions.

Take a look at my previous post it renders your predictions void!



The first set of matches have started, USA v CZE. USA with Fritz and Keys win 2-0.

This is an interesting tournament being a mixed gender team event.

Having a quick look at the betting format on Rollbit, it looks like there are bets possible
on country v country and on the players themselves.


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December 29, 2022, 09:31:45 PM
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I haven't paid too much attention to the United Cup before. It seems like the players play
in teams per country. Kyrgios was indeed set to play but has pulled out, which is a bit
of a shocker I think.

Everyone knows he doesn't play a full season, he skips tournaments but was expected
to play this as it's a home tournament.

Yes, the format is really interesting. But the last minute cancellation of Kyrgios is not good. I read that he got an injury on his foot at the tournament in Dubai and it is probably not completely healed yet. So of course it is better if he does not play to be fit and healthy for the Australian Open.

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December 29, 2022, 11:32:49 PM
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I haven't paid too much attention to the United Cup before. It seems like the players play
in teams per country. Kyrgios was indeed set to play but has pulled out, which is a bit
of a shocker I think.

Everyone knows he doesn't play a full season, he skips tournaments but was expected
to play this as it's a home tournament.

Yes, the format is really interesting. But the last minute cancellation of Kyrgios is not good. I read that he got an injury on his foot at the tournament in Dubai and it is probably not completely healed yet. So of course it is better if he does not play to be fit and healthy for the Australian Open.
Injuries were big problem with every sportsman. This break could keep him from Australian Open and we don't know how long his rest gets continued. The worst part, after recovery it takes him little time to make himself with a comeback. The form once disturbed out of injury is a big setback for the player.

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December 29, 2022, 11:45:11 PM
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I am not easily concerned about Djokovic's health. And corona now also seems to have largely disappeared from the face of the earth. This means that we no longer have to work with certain vaccinations. That would be very beneficial for Djokovic, as I don't think he will be vaccinated again. So if Corona comes back, we can be pretty sure that Djokovic will be banned from certain tournaments again. Own choice and own responsibility of course. But he has an exemplary role and has made quite a mess.
Wasn't Djokovic banned from attending the Australian Open for atleast 2023 season?
Thought I seen him mentioning at a press conference earlier today talking about playing in this one.
But he can't appeal with the ATP to attend and play at a tournament that he has been previously banned from could he?

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December 30, 2022, 08:32:10 AM
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I am not easily concerned about Djokovic's health. And corona now also seems to have largely disappeared from the face of the earth. This means that we no longer have to work with certain vaccinations. That would be very beneficial for Djokovic, as I don't think he will be vaccinated again. So if Corona comes back, we can be pretty sure that Djokovic will be banned from certain tournaments again. Own choice and own responsibility of course. But he has an exemplary role and has made quite a mess.
Wasn't Djokovic banned from attending the Australian Open for atleast 2023 season?
Thought I seen him mentioning at a press conference earlier today talking about playing in this one.
But he can't appeal with the ATP to attend and play at a tournament that he has been previously banned from could he?

He was barred from entering the country until 2025 after being deported this year but
back in November I think that order was reversed and he is allowed back for the 2023
season. I recon there will be mixed reaction to this closer to the tournament, I would say
this has been missed by a lot of Tennis enthusiasts.

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December 30, 2022, 08:55:12 AM
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I am not easily concerned about Djokovic's health. And corona now also seems to have largely disappeared from the face of the earth. This means that we no longer have to work with certain vaccinations. That would be very beneficial for Djokovic, as I don't think he will be vaccinated again. So if Corona comes back, we can be pretty sure that Djokovic will be banned from certain tournaments again. Own choice and own responsibility of course. But he has an exemplary role and has made quite a mess.
Wasn't Djokovic banned from attending the Australian Open for atleast 2023 season?
Thought I seen him mentioning at a press conference earlier today talking about playing in this one.
But he can't appeal with the ATP to attend and play at a tournament that he has been previously banned from could he?

He was barred from entering the country until 2025 after being deported this year but
back in November I think that order was reversed and he is allowed back for the 2023
season. I recon there will be mixed reaction to this closer to the tournament, I would say
this has been missed by a lot of Tennis enthusiasts.

Yes, but I think Djokovic status has been reversed, so he is allowed for next year and obviously he is going to compete. And with the Corona virus outbreak almost a foregone conclusion one and Djokovic sticking to his believed on Covid flu shot that makes him very controversial and affected his tennis to some countries including Australia, I think it has been settled already.

So come next year I'm expecting Djokovic to be battle ready in the next Australian Open, sort of revenge time for him and with the new generations, it will be a great battle.

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