2024 NBA Season

[danherbias07]

"LeBron is going to make sure those games [in Orlando] are played, because he knows they could have a huge impact on his legacy,"
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"He knows picking up one or two more titles is the potential tipping point, and he's determined to go for it."

Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2896224-nba-exec-lebron-james-will-make-sure-nba-returns-because-it-could-impact-legacy.amp.html

Sure thing, Bron is dedicated to take the championship ring this season though. He needs to take this in to a new level before those young promising guys take over the league, his chances are getting slimmer as time passes by.

That's good news indeed.
They might be on the top but there is no reason to not play all those remaining games.
We all want to see the stars and that could gain more customers for PPV.  

I'm with you, Lebron is good but in terms of Leadership I like "THE CLAW" Kawhi Leonard as he is willing to take the last shot, the last season, in the playoffs and NBA finals, there's a lot of highlights we can see how Leonard carry his team, including a thrilling win over the sixers as after that win, they never struggle anymore winning the NBA Finals.

Now that's something.
I thought I am going to see comments of pure Lebron fans only.  

IMO, they are different when compared to leadership.
I don't see Kawhi talking a lot when it comes to crucial minutes which is the opposite of Lebron.
Kawhi will just let the coach do the work while Lebron could change the view of a coach.

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[Finestream]

I'm with you, Lebron is good but in terms of Leadership I like "THE CLAW" Kawhi Leonard as he is willing to take the last shot, the last season, in the playoffs and NBA finals, there's a lot of highlights we can see how Leonard carry his team, including a thrilling win over the sixers as after that win, they never struggle anymore winning the NBA Finals.

Now that's something.
I thought I am going to see comments of pure Lebron fans only.  

IMO, they are different when compared to leadership.
I don't see Kawhi talking a lot when it comes to crucial minutes which is the opposite of Lebron.
Kawhi will just let the coach do the work while Lebron could change the view of a coach.

That's the difference, Kawhi still consider himself as a player, unlike Lebron who fired and like to fire a coach because he chooses his coach, he seem to think that he is really the most valuable in a team.

you can read this interesting article

https://fadeawayworld.net/2019/04/13/the-lebron-curse-all-coaches-that-were-fired-while-coaching-lebron-james/

Here's the list from the article.

1) Paul Silas
2) Brendan Malone
3) Mike Brown
4) David Blatt
5) Luke Walton

[dwminer1]

Many people here consider Lakers and Clippers to be the championship favorites. A few pages earlier there was also a discussion about the rivalry of Lebron and Kawhi. See what Danny Green, guy who played with them both, says about both leaders.

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1272689341027024899

What type of leader would you prefer in a team? Louder like LBJ or more uncommunicative like KL? Personally, I think I would choose Lebron, although his huge charisma can be a great advantage, but sometimes it can also have a bad effect on the team. Anyway, I hope to see these players compete in the conference finals.

LeBron's leadership has been proven, though what makes him put in the bad light, is that he's always surrounded with superstars. He might not be recruiting them, but some of them would love to play along with him.
Leonard on the other hand, isn't that good as a leader of the squad. He's just an excellent both offensive and defensive player, he's the best asset a team could ever had. But, If we're talking about leadership, I would also choose LeBron over Leonard.

I don't need to watch the 2 minutes video but I presume that Green will say that Lebron is the better player than Leonard since he is currently playing with Lebron now in the LA Lakers. If my personal view will count to you guys, lol... I would choose Kawhi Leonard over Lebron James as he is more clutch and can be trusted to give a win to his team, many times I've seen him take the last shot or bring the ball to score for his team in crucial times, so I would choose him over Lebron who would just pass the ball. Sorry, no offense to the Lebron fans but this is just my bias opinion.

I'm with you, Lebron is good but in terms of Leadership I like "THE CLAW" Kawhi Leonard as he is willing to take the last shot, the last season, in the playoffs and NBA finals, there's a lot of highlights we can see how Leonard carry his team, including a thrilling win over the sixers as after that win, they never struggle anymore winning the NBA Finals.

I agree that Kawhi can be a team leader on the field. He showed it many times in matches of the regular season, as well as in the finals - in San Antonio beating LBJ or later in Raptors. However, Kawhi lacks the expression and charisma that a leader should have. The leader should be able to raise the team's morale not only by playing well, but sometimes also by some kind of behavior, I don't know, big dunk or a some gesture towards the fans. A bit of the character of a showman who can inspire the whole arena. Kawhi doesn't have it or shows it extremely rarely.

[arwin100]

Many people here consider Lakers and Clippers to be the championship favorites. A few pages earlier there was also a discussion about the rivalry of Lebron and Kawhi. See what Danny Green, guy who played with them both, says about both leaders.

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1272689341027024899

What type of leader would you prefer in a team? Louder like LBJ or more uncommunicative like KL? Personally, I think I would choose Lebron, although his huge charisma can be a great advantage, but sometimes it can also have a bad effect on the team. Anyway, I hope to see these players compete in the conference finals.

LeBron's leadership has been proven, though what makes him put in the bad light, is that he's always surrounded with superstars. He might not be recruiting them, but some of them would love to play along with him.
Leonard on the other hand, isn't that good as a leader of the squad. He's just an excellent both offensive and defensive player, he's the best asset a team could ever had. But, If we're talking about leadership, I would also choose LeBron over Leonard.

I don't need to watch the 2 minutes video but I presume that Green will say that Lebron is the better player than Leonard since he is currently playing with Lebron now in the LA Lakers. If my personal view will count to you guys, lol... I would choose Kawhi Leonard over Lebron James as he is more clutch and can be trusted to give a win to his team, many times I've seen him take the last shot or bring the ball to score for his team in crucial times, so I would choose him over Lebron who would just pass the ball. Sorry, no offense to the Lebron fans but this is just my bias opinion.

I'm with you, Lebron is good but in terms of Leadership I like "THE CLAW" Kawhi Leonard as he is willing to take the last shot, the last season, in the playoffs and NBA finals, there's a lot of highlights we can see how Leonard carry his team, including a thrilling win over the sixers as after that win, they never struggle anymore winning the NBA Finals.

I agree that Kawhi can be a team leader on the field. He showed it many times in matches of the regular season, as well as in the finals - in San Antonio beating LBJ or later in Raptors. However, Kawhi lacks the expression and charisma that a leader should have. The leader should be able to raise the team's morale not only by playing well, but sometimes also by some kind of behavior, I don't know, big dunk or a some gesture towards the fans. A bit of the character of a showman who can inspire the whole arena. Kawhi doesn't have it or shows it extremely rarely.

I don't agree with that do you see how big is the impact when he is on the floor? he always change the phase and his teammate will became more confident when he is on the court and look what happen in raptors he brought up the team to the finals and they win their chip. Maybe you mean he's so silent and that what makes him unique he became more famous for his attitude since people will find it mystery especially when he smiles.

[yazher]

I'm with you, Lebron is good but in terms of Leadership I like "THE CLAW" Kawhi Leonard as he is willing to take the last shot, the last season, in the playoffs and NBA finals, there's a lot of highlights we can see how Leonard carry his team, including a thrilling win over the sixers as after that win, they never struggle anymore winning the NBA Finals.

Yeah, you're right, there's no doubt how good player Lebron is, but when it comes to leadership with the team, he lacks the skills and he always choose the best of the players out there. unlike Leonard, he is one of the reasons why we know the other players in Raptors like Siakam and the others. He proved that everyone can do his own game if given chance to play well. no sugar coating but I like how Leonard passes the ball to let his teammates shine on every game.

[Finestream]

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I agree that Kawhi can be a team leader on the field. He showed it many times in matches of the regular season, as well as in the finals - in San Antonio beating LBJ or later in Raptors. However, Kawhi lacks the expression and charisma that a leader should have. The leader should be able to raise the team's morale not only by playing well, but sometimes also by some kind of behavior, I don't know, big dunk or a some gesture towards the fans. A bit of the character of a showman who can inspire the whole arena. Kawhi doesn't have it or shows it extremely rarely.

We might not seeing him talking to his teammates when he is playing, but as we see, whatever teams Leonard plays with, the team will improve and become a playoff contender and even a championship contender, what he did with the Toronto Raptors was a big achievement already, he gave the Raptors their first championship in their history (correct me if I'm wrong) and we even underestimate the Raptors with Leonard but Leonard proved us wrong.

The Raptors are undeniably having a good coach as they are still a contender now, but good them they have Leonard who listened and respect his coach so there's no division within the team.

Coach job is to design the play and players will follow whether you are a star or not.

[Reid]

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Looks like it. It feels sarcastic for me.
If it is not, then great.

He really likes to tease all star players LOL  .

Yeah, it's annoying but that is his strategy and it did help the Clippers a lot like when they fought GSW defending the unstoppable Durant.  

I don't agree with that do you see how big is the impact when he is on the floor? he always change the phase and his teammate will became more confident when he is on the court and look what happen in raptors he brought up the team to the finals and they win their chip. Maybe you mean he's so silent and that what makes him unique he became more famous for his attitude since people will find it mystery especially when he smiles.

I guess we are going back to the Kawhi, Lebron discussion.  
The mystery of Kawhi.
Silent but deadly.
Defensive player of the Year. That is one hell of a tough achievement.
Even Jordan was exhausted just reaching it.
It tells how a man pursues efforts in guarding every player at the highest level.

With Lebron, he is a pace changer, especially in his younger years.
He can just push offensively and pull his teammates by the rhythm.

It's difficult to pick if these two are being compared.
But if forced to do so, I am with Kawhi.

[Golftech]

What type of leader would you prefer in a team? Louder like LBJ or more uncommunicative like KL? Personally, I think I would choose Lebron, although his huge charisma can be a great advantage, but sometimes it can also have a bad effect on the team. Anyway, I hope to see these players compete in the conference finals.

Lebron's ways personally is the best as it's also how super star like MJ and Kobe works, they wanted to boost the energy to come out their teammates, to some players who have egos might be not that good, but for players who knows how to adjust it's okay.

Players willingness to win allows them to listen whatever types of leadership lebron will implement as long as they've got same goals.

[Harlot]

I'm with you, Lebron is good but in terms of Leadership I like "THE CLAW" Kawhi Leonard as he is willing to take the last shot, the last season, in the playoffs and NBA finals, there's a lot of highlights we can see how Leonard carry his team, including a thrilling win over the sixers as after that win, they never struggle anymore winning the NBA Finals.

Yeah, you're right, there's no doubt how good player Lebron is, but when it comes to leadership with the team, he lacks the skills and he always choose the best of the players out there. unlike Leonard, he is one of the reasons why we know the other players in Raptors like Siakam and the others. He proved that everyone can do his own game if given chance to play well. no sugar coating but I like how Leonard passes the ball to let his teammates shine on every game.

I couldn't say that I can agree on both of you. Lebron James is somehow a good leader and it has been proven a lot on some of his videos found in Youtube (mostly in CAVS uniform) that when he is in the sidelines he sometimes is the one making plays and not the coach, during time outs you will see him making strategies, while he is a point guard you will see him calling out plays, while he is in the bench you will see him cheer and sometimes be hype up when his teammates make an awesome play. These are just a few examples showing that Lebron is indeed a good leader.

[Sanitough]

What type of leader would you prefer in a team? Louder like LBJ or more uncommunicative like KL? Personally, I think I would choose Lebron, although his huge charisma can be a great advantage, but sometimes it can also have a bad effect on the team. Anyway, I hope to see these players compete in the conference finals.

Lebron's ways personally is the best as it's also how super star like MJ and Kobe works, they wanted to boost the energy to come out their teammates, to some players who have egos might be not that good, but for players who knows how to adjust it's okay.

Players willingness to win allows them to listen whatever types of leadership lebron will implement as long as they've got same goals.

Both Lebron and Kawhi are MVP's and undeniable that they are the most popular complete players now in the NBA.
In terms of achievement, Lebron has a lot because he has a lot of attempts in the NBA finals compared to Leonard but the success rate favors to Leonard.

we can check their full comparison here.

https://www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/lebron_james_vs_kawhi_leonard.htm

[asu]

What type of leader would you prefer in a team? Louder like LBJ or more uncommunicative like KL? Personally, I think I would choose Lebron, although his huge charisma can be a great advantage, but sometimes it can also have a bad effect on the team. Anyway, I hope to see these players compete in the conference finals.

Lebron got drafted at year 2003.
Kawhi got drafted at year 2011.
- That's a huge gap difference were talking about.

Lebron is far more experienced player and if we will look today, Kawhi is absolutely at his prime (for me), but the interesting part here is Lebron still managed his team to be on the top 1 standing and that earns him great leadership.

Both Lebron and Kawhi are MVP's and undeniable that they are the most popular complete players now in the NBA.
In terms of achievement, Lebron has a lot because he has a lot of attempts in the NBA finals compared to Leonard but the success rate favors to Leonard.

Yeah, but that's because Lebron had played NBA more earlier than Kawhi. I think it's best to compare their both achievements in their 10 season.

[Sanitough]

Both Lebron and Kawhi are MVP's and undeniable that they are the most popular complete players now in the NBA.
In terms of achievement, Lebron has a lot because he has a lot of attempts in the NBA finals compared to Leonard but the success rate favors to Leonard.

Yeah, but that's because Lebron had played NBA more earlier than Kawhi. I think it's best to compare their both achievements in their 10 season.

That's the reason I mentioned that Kawhi has a high success rate compared to Lebron in winning the NBA finals.
Doing a simple math here for NBA championship achievement.

Lebron James has been to the finals 9 times, and won 3 of them, so that would be 33.33% success rate.

Kawhi Leonard has been to the finals 3 times (2 in San Antonio, and 1 in Toronto) and won 2 of them, so that is 66.67%

That's how good Leonard is.

[chaser15]

Lebron James has been to the finals 9 times, and won 3 of them, so that would be 33.33% success rate.

Kawhi Leonard has been to the finals 3 times (2 in San Antonio, and 1 in Toronto) and won 2 of them, so that is 66.67%

That's how good Leonard is.

Is that the basis that Kawhi is more good?

It's better to compare the winning championship stats if Leonard will also be in finals 9 times. Let's wait for more years.

Lebron is already known for carrying a whole team. Kawhi didn't experience that yet so maybe once he transfers to another team we can see how good his leadership is. He is not the team leader on Spurs, Raptors, and Clippers but just doing his role. Kawhi is still young and he can beat the hell out of records out there, not just against Lebron but to other superstars as well.

[Botnake]

He is not the team leader on Spurs, Raptors, and Clippers but just doing his role. Kawhi is still young and he can beat the hell out of records out there, not just against Lebron but to other superstars as well.

I beg to disagree on this, Leonard might not be a Team leader on Spurs as he played most of his rookie years with the Spurs but he got his first championship with the spurs and his first Finals MVP, that says a lot to me, the only reason we don't see his leadership because he is a humble player in the court, he doesn't talk a lot, he is more action than words. 

However, with the Raptors and the Clippers, I think I saw his leadership, if you saw how he played last playoffs and NBA finals, you'll see that he is the main man in the team and he is good in getting his teammates involve so they have success together.

Now that he is playing with the Clippers, they maybe not the number 1 team but they will be a great contender comes the playoffs.
I have a feeling that since LA Clippers is just sitting next to the Lakers, if both will beat their opponents, they will meet in the West Finals and then we can prove who is the better player between the two.

I can say as of now that they are even as in the NBA finals, When Lebron was still playing with the Heat, both met 2 times and they are 1-1 in win record.

[chaser15]

He is not the team leader on Spurs, Raptors, and Clippers but just doing his role. Kawhi is still young and he can beat the hell out of records out there, not just against Lebron but to other superstars as well.

I beg to disagree on this, Leonard might not be a Team leader on Spurs as he played most of his rookie years with the Spurs but he got his first championship with the spurs and his first Finals MVP, that says a lot to me, the only reason we don't see his leadership because he is a humble player in the court, he doesn't talk a lot, he is more action than words. 

However, with the Raptors and the Clippers, I think I saw his leadership, if you saw how he played last playoffs and NBA finals, you'll see that he is the main man in the team and he is good in getting his teammates involve so they have success together.

You might have the wrong impression of being the main man, it's not always the leader. In Raptor's case, that's not the case. The one who is making plays for them is Kyle Lowry and he is the leader, not Kawhi. Since Kawhi is the main scorer, therefore Lowry will put the center of offense to him. Kawhi is not a leader but he is just doing his job to the role assigned to him. Raptors trusted him.

Another example, Steve Nash. He is the leader way back in Suns but the center of the offense goes to Amare Stoudamire. Jason Kidd is also a leader on Nets but the center of offense came from Kenyon Martin, Richard Jefferson, and back when Vince Carter back when he is teamed up with him. Chauncey Billups of Detroit but the offense mostly came from Hamilton and Prince. There are lots of examples out there.

[asu]

However, with the Raptors and the Clippers, I think I saw his leadership, if you saw how he played last playoffs and NBA finals, you'll see that he is the main man in the team and he is good in getting his teammates involve so they have success together.

In other words. Bringing the 1st fight NBA championship of the Raptors says it all.

I can say as of now that they are even as in the NBA finals, When Lebron was still playing with the Heat, both met 2 times and they are 1-1 in win record.

Pretty much. However, Lebron faced a young Kawhi at that time and that's the interesting part why lots of fans love to see this rivalry.

[harizen]

..unlike Leonard, he is one of the reasons why we know the other players in Raptors like Siakam and the others. He proved that everyone can do his own game if given chance to play well.

Not in my case. It might be those people who are just watching the finals. Raptors is always been at the top of Eastern Conference before Kawhi's arrival. They are not a team that is always left behind the Eastern Conference competition.  Their players are popular so it's not about Kawhi why Siakam or others got noticed.

What I like to Kawhi is, he is really fit for the Raptors system. I mean, Raptor's core players are already good, and with Kawhi on the floor, they are even better. We have seen the improvement of Raptors' core players year by year. They always comes back as a better team after every playoff choked lol. And take note, Raptors do have a good record even Kawhi is out on the floor (load management) so let's give credits to the whole Raptors why they achieved that success. I'm also hoping that they will meet the Bucks again on the playoffs to see how they can deal with Giannis without Kawhi.

[Natalim]

You might have the wrong impression of being the main man, it's not always the leader. In Raptor's case, that's not the case. The one who is making plays for them is Kyle Lowry and he is the leader, not Kawhi. Since Kawhi is the main scorer, therefore Lowry will put the center of offense to him. Kawhi is not a leader but he is just doing his job to the role assigned to him. Raptors trusted him.

A lot of people does not know the role of a player, yes Kyle Lowry is the leader as per his role, and normally a PG is the leader of the team as he is the one who makes the plays for the team, but what they are seeing is the Raptors have change when Leonard play with them and they got their first championship.

If I am just an average fan, I would also think that Leonard is the leader of the team as Raptors always messed up before Leonard arrive.

[Botnake]

He is not the team leader on Spurs, Raptors, and Clippers but just doing his role. Kawhi is still young and he can beat the hell out of records out there, not just against Lebron but to other superstars as well.

I beg to disagree on this, Leonard might not be a Team leader on Spurs as he played most of his rookie years with the Spurs but he got his first championship with the spurs and his first Finals MVP, that says a lot to me, the only reason we don't see his leadership because he is a humble player in the court, he doesn't talk a lot, he is more action than words.  

However, with the Raptors and the Clippers, I think I saw his leadership, if you saw how he played last playoffs and NBA finals, you'll see that he is the main man in the team and he is good in getting his teammates involve so they have success together.

You might have the wrong impression of being the main man, it's not always the leader. In Raptor's case, that's not the case. The one who is making plays for them is Kyle Lowry and he is the leader, not Kawhi. Since Kawhi is the main scorer, therefore Lowry will put the center of offense to him. Kawhi is not a leader but he is just doing his job to the role assigned to him. Raptors trusted him.

I know that Lowry is the captain ball of the team, but they usually give the ball to Leonard in crucial times and it seems like it's Leonard is already manning the ball most of the time. Just like Kobe Bryant role, he is not the PG of the team but once he has the ball, he can decide to shoot it or to pass it. We may have different point of view, I respect your opinion but that is my opinion too.

However, with the Raptors and the Clippers, I think I saw his leadership, if you saw how he played last playoffs and NBA finals, you'll see that he is the main man in the team and he is good in getting his teammates involve so they have success together.

In other words. Bringing the 1st fight NBA championship of the Raptors says it all.

Yes because he is not vocal but he always prove to be one of the best in the NBA, and yet he is still underrated now.
Maybe when Lebron retires, that will be his time to shine more, but I really like his consistency and his humbleness and he keeps proving he can beat any opponent who will guard and which he will guard.

I can say as of now that they are even as in the NBA finals, When Lebron was still playing with the Heat, both met 2 times and they are 1-1 in win record.

Pretty much. However, Lebron faced a young Kawhi at that time and that's the interesting part why lots of fans love to see this rivalry.

Kawhi was still young that time but he beat Lebron in their duel.

Let's reminisce the performance of Leonard last 2014 finals when spurs won.

Throwback: Kawhi Leonard Full Series Highlights vs Miami Heat (2014 NBA Finals) - Finals MVP! HD

ps: not my video

[Reid]

..unlike Leonard, he is one of the reasons why we know the other players in Raptors like Siakam and the others. He proved that everyone can do his own game if given chance to play well.

Not in my case. It might be those people who are just watching the finals. Raptors is always been at the top of Eastern Conference before Kawhi's arrival. They are not a team that is always left behind the Eastern Conference competition.  Their players are popular so it's not about Kawhi why Siakam or others got noticed.

What I like to Kawhi is, he is really fit for the Raptors system. I mean, Raptor's core players are already good, and with Kawhi on the floor, they are even better. We have seen the improvement of Raptors' core players year by year. They always comes back as a better team after every playoff choked lol. And take note, Raptors do have a good record even Kawhi is out on the floor (load management) so let's give credits to the whole Raptors why they achieved that success. I'm also hoping that they will meet the Bucks again on the playoffs to see how they can deal with Giannis without Kawhi.

Correct. Let us also add the arrival of Nick Nurse.
They became a different Raptors team afterward.
I can still remember how bad it was with Dwane Casey.
The moment he sat down DeRozan when the offense was really needed in a win or go home playoff game tells everything.
Forgot the details but there was a lot of time on the clock, the lead of the opponent is not that far and yet he sat him down until the buzzer sound. 
I don't know if he's protecting DeRozan or the management told him to, for the upcoming trade (Kawhi) but it was really a bad call.