2024 NBA Season

[Finestream]

Maybe the NBA’s Return Won’t Be As Easy As It Seemed

Not to burst your bubble, but players are beginning to voice unease over restrictions and health protocols in the “campus environment” at Disney World

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/6/12/21289757/nba-return-bubble

Sums up one thing.
United States is not that united right now because there are so many components that need to be talked.
Player voices was not heard. The voting of the July tip-off just came from NBA management without regards to what the players feel. They are like front liners for entertainment in this case. They will be dealing with different people in Orlando.
George Floyd's case which divided USA once again from the issue of racism. Some players are joining that battle.

I think they will need to sit down and talk about this to clear everything.
With social distancing in one place.

I think that issue will slowly be resolved while they resume the season, I mean, I am a bit bias as I can't wait for the NBA season to resume but I understand how the business runs, and just like the NBA plan to resume even if the covid-19 cases are still increasing, the reason is the economy itself, it has to be properly balance, otherwise USA as a great country will collapse if they only focus on security against covid and will not take care of the economy. I'm just talking here on the general point of view.

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[boyptc]

Maybe the NBA’s Return Won’t Be As Easy As It Seemed

Not to burst your bubble, but players are beginning to voice unease over restrictions and health protocols in the “campus environment” at Disney World

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/6/12/21289757/nba-return-bubble

There are now those players that don't want to proceed with the restart because of having no audience. Having supporters cheering for their team really is a big factor.

Especially if they are on their home court shouting their names which boosts their gaming confidence.

[Sanitough]

Maybe the NBA’s Return Won’t Be As Easy As It Seemed

Not to burst your bubble, but players are beginning to voice unease over restrictions and health protocols in the “campus environment” at Disney World

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/6/12/21289757/nba-return-bubble

There are now those players that don't want to proceed with the restart because of having no audience. Having supporters cheering for their team really is a big factor.

They are under on a contract, they will have to participate as that is part of their job, they will only be excuse if they have a valid reason.
If they will not participate they will break the contract and they will be sued which might affect their future in the NBA.
We are talking of huge money here as per their contract, especially the star players so it's a big lost for the players as NBA can always find a player that would play for a certain team.

Especially if they are on their home court shouting their names which boosts their gaming confidence.

There's no home court when the NBA will resume, it has been posted in the previous pages already.

For more details, read more on. 

The NBA’s Plan to Resume the Season at Disney World

[Rosilito]

Jokic is not KD, he doesn't have the ability like Durant has and he is playing as a center, so he need to be more dominant inside to create points and be effective with his defense as well, I don't think his fans like the way he look like now, but still we need to see on his performance if that would really help him improve as a player, remember he already is in the star status in the NBA, if he can't maintain that, people will be disappointed because he loss weight.

Yeah, my apologies  . I wasn't tryin' to compare the two as they have entirely different playstyle. I was just imagining what speed Jokic would get with his body shape he has now  , and I think it wasn't a bad thing.

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There are now those players that don't want to proceed with the restart because of having no audience. Having supporters cheering for their team really is a big factor.

They are under on a contract, they will have to participate as that is part of their job, they will only be excuse if they have a valid reason.
If they will not participate they will break the contract and they will be sued which might affect their future in the NBA.
We are talking of huge money here as per their contract, especially the star players so it's a big lost for the players as NBA can always find a player that would play for a certain team.

Exactly, man. It was already been decided, and I think their voice/petition wouldn't change much anything. It'll just bring 'em in a bad situation. But whatever, they knew it better what would might happen to them if they decided not to play in such date.

Besides, the league followed did a strict demeanor to as much possible avoid the possibilities of spreading the virus. Like their on-going plan about testing stuff against the virus.

[boyptc]

Maybe the NBA’s Return Won’t Be As Easy As It Seemed

Not to burst your bubble, but players are beginning to voice unease over restrictions and health protocols in the “campus environment” at Disney World

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/6/12/21289757/nba-return-bubble

There are now those players that don't want to proceed with the restart because of having no audience. Having supporters cheering for their team really is a big factor.

They are under on a contract, they will have to participate as that is part of their job, they will only be excuse if they have a valid reason.
If they will not participate they will break the contract and they will be sued which might affect their future in the NBA.
We are talking of huge money here as per their contract, especially the star players so it's a big lost for the players as NBA can always find a player that would play for a certain team.

Yes, they have no choice but their voice might also be heard. As per the article, it's a 'faction' of players so they will also be noticed but talking with the contract rules. It is true that they might break contract rules.

Especially if they are on their home court shouting their names which boosts their gaming confidence.

There's no home court when the NBA will resume, it has been posted in the previous pages already.

For more details, read more on. 

The NBA’s Plan to Resume the Season at Disney World

I haven't followed NBA updates for a while so not aware of that but the factor that I've mentioned cheering them is big for them which is this faction is complaining about.

[Captain Corporate]

 I am sure this will turn out to be a bigger deal and there were other players but whenever I see Kyrie Irving name I just can't take it seriously, he was the guy who kept saying the earth is flat. He declined to answer if what he thought was earth is flat or was it more like do your own research on subjects idealogy that he was promoting but at the same time its still saying earth is flat so I can't take him seriously. Over the course of years he has said sooooo many idiotic things that even when he says something as serious as this, I can't take him seriously

[Reid]

 I am sure this will turn out to be a bigger deal and there were other players but whenever I see Kyrie Irving name I just can't take it seriously, he was the guy who kept saying the earth is flat. He declined to answer if what he thought was earth is flat or was it more like do your own research on subjects idealogy that he was promoting but at the same time its still saying earth is flat so I can't take him seriously. Over the course of years he has said sooooo many idiotic things that even when he says something as serious as this, I can't take him seriously

We cannot base an individual working brain just because of what he believe in.
An election happened before he became VP of the players association so I think many players do believe on his insights.

On another note, I haven't thought players have that kind of gripe over the NBA decision. I thought it was all okay for them and they are preparing.
They should've come forward earlier for this to be discussed longer.
But I think they found George Floyd matter as more important than it, which is cool for me.

Will this heat up the discussion and amend the date for the game to be resumed or will they just abide by the decision the NBA made?

[TheGreatPython]

This argument is not only over players coming back during this pandemic process which is still a bad thing and players should be protected with the upmost importance and should spend millions of dollars just for the safety of the players.

However this is also about George Floyd, this is about police brutality, this is about players having one platform which is games that they can use to voice their concerns with the world and by not playing and sitting out they could easily get a lot of attention. When one guy kneels you can discredit him, when an entire league decides to not play you can't just discredit the entire league (well you can try, but only your followers will listen while others mock you). So all in all this is a stand up against the system as well.

[LogitechMouse]

Maybe the NBA’s Return Won’t Be As Easy As It Seemed

Not to burst your bubble, but players are beginning to voice unease over restrictions and health protocols in the “campus environment” at Disney World

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/6/12/21289757/nba-return-bubble

There are now those players that don't want to proceed with the restart because of having no audience. Having supporters cheering for their team really is a big factor.

They are under on a contract, they will have to participate as that is part of their job, they will only be excuse if they have a valid reason.
If they will not participate they will break the contract and they will be sued which might affect their future in the NBA.
We are talking of huge money here as per their contract, especially the star players so it's a big lost for the players as NBA can always find a player that would play for a certain team.

I have watched a video on youtube saying that if the player will not be punished if they don't want to play this time. Yes it is part of their job as a player and they are under a contract but I think the health of every player is more important right now than the contract. Players didn't want this to happen and no one want too but if I'm on their situation, I will not risk my life too unless there are very strict guidelines that will be implemented but I'm not in a 100% condition still.

[Reid]

Maybe the NBA’s Return Won’t Be As Easy As It Seemed

Not to burst your bubble, but players are beginning to voice unease over restrictions and health protocols in the “campus environment” at Disney World

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/6/12/21289757/nba-return-bubble

There are now those players that don't want to proceed with the restart because of having no audience. Having supporters cheering for their team really is a big factor.

They are under on a contract, they will have to participate as that is part of their job, they will only be excuse if they have a valid reason.
If they will not participate they will break the contract and they will be sued which might affect their future in the NBA.
We are talking of huge money here as per their contract, especially the star players so it's a big lost for the players as NBA can always find a player that would play for a certain team.

I have watched a video on youtube saying that if the player will not be punished if they don't want to play this time. Yes it is part of their job as a player and they are under a contract but I think the health of every player is more important right now than the contract. Players didn't want this to happen and no one want too but if I'm on their situation, I will not risk my life too unless there are very strict guidelines that will be implemented but I'm not in a 100% condition still.

True.
One good example is your kids as students in their respective schools.
Will you really let them go to school while you know there is no vaccine yet? I won't.

I know these players want to play ball but they need security too.
It is just one factor of what they are aiming for this season to start again.
There are others which had been discussed just above our posts.

Even if they are to breach the contract, it is not their fault. We can discuss this in court but yet players can still win it because of enough reasons to not play during a pandemic.
In the end, it will still be their decision. IMHO.
Their lives are more important, right?

[boyptc]

I have watched a video on youtube saying that if the player will not be punished if they don't want to play this time. Yes it is part of their job as a player and they are under a contract but I think the health of every player is more important right now than the contract. Players didn't want this to happen and no one want too but if I'm on their situation, I will not risk my life too unless there are very strict guidelines that will be implemented but I'm not in a 100% condition still.

Is that a news youtube channel for sports? that's a good if there is no punishment regarding the disagreement of players whenever they have a match.

They can't really push a player to play if he don't want even there is a contract.

[Bttzed03]

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Player voices was not heard. The voting of the July tip-off just came from NBA management without regards to what the players feel.

It was only right for the NBA management to craft the format first before talking to the player's association. If I read the NBPA's statement correctly, they all approved the resumption but they have issues with its implementation.

The Board of Player Representatives of the National Basketball Players Association (NBPA) has approved further negotiations with the NBA on a 22-team return to play scenario to restart the 2019-20 NBA season. Various details remain to be negotiated and the acceptance of the scenario would still require that all parties reach agreement on all issues relevant to resuming play.

I'm confident the NBA and NBPA will sort these things out.


I don't know who are the concerned players who wants strict health protocols in place but if any one of them already participated in mass gatherings, they shouldn't be complaining. They shouldn't play either.

[Rosilito]

I have watched a video on youtube saying that if the player will not be punished if they don't want to play this time. Yes it is part of their job as a player and they are under a contract but I think the health of every player is more important right now than the contract. Players didn't want this to happen and no one want too but if I'm on their situation, I will not risk my life too unless there are very strict guidelines that will be implemented but I'm not in a 100% condition still.

Is that a news youtube channel for sports? that's a good if there is no punishment regarding the disagreement of players whenever they have a match.

From what I found, the league would reduced their salaries  .

To confirm it. I found this article:

The league is reportedly not requiring its players to participate in the season restart if they are uncomfortable doing so. Players who voluntarily sit out would lose a portion of their salaries, but would otherwise face no consequences.

Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/.amp/nba/2020/06/13/kyrie-irving-nba-season-restart-orlando
(Phrase in bold is what confirms it)

Much better than going to into any sort of legalities. And it is understandable considering the situation they have right now in their country. Loads of confirmed cases, and an on-going protest against racism in some other state. Well, some players like Malcolm Brogdon, and Jaylen Brown, you name it have found participating in the protest.

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Player voices was not heard. The voting of the July tip-off just came from NBA management without regards to what the players feel.

It was only right for the NBA management to craft the format first before talking to the player's association. If I read the NBPA's statement correctly, they all approved the resumption but they have issues with its implementation.

Am not sure, and I don't quite follow. Is this about Kyrie's concern? Or was it a different story? (Please enlighten me with this one  , Thank you)

[Reid]

Am not sure, and I don't quite follow. Is this about Kyrie's concern? Or was it a different story? (Please enlighten me with this one  , Thank you)

Different issues, different reasons.
Some of them are joining the Black Lives Matter movement like this one.

https://clutchpoints.com/lakers-news-dwight-howard-supports-kyrie-irving-refuses-play-basketball/

Some have issues the way management of Disney World is doing things.
Security, test, and staff. Those kinds of issues.

They all agree back in March and April until George Floyd's questionable death in the street.
Some players are shaken and others are trying to be in the middle of the racism issue.

The most fearful thing that could happen is... if this racism talk goes inside the players and management while at play.
I am sure there will be times it will be discussed and there may be a misunderstanding that would lead to a bad end.

Remember the Michael Porter Jr tweet which was bashed by different NBA players just like that.
It was not a bad tweet. It talks about prayer for both sides. I think I shared it here. I will try to dig it.
Edit:
Here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1220979.msg54518130#msg54518130
Imagine if that happens in one team.

[Golftech]

I have watched a video on youtube saying that if the player will not be punished if they don't want to play this time. Yes it is part of their job as a player and they are under a contract but I think the health of every player is more important right now than the contract. Players didn't want this to happen and no one want too but if I'm on their situation, I will not risk my life too unless there are very strict guidelines that will be implemented but I'm not in a 100% condition still.

Is that a news youtube channel for sports? that's a good if there is no punishment regarding the disagreement of players whenever they have a match.

They can't really push a player to play if he don't want even there is a contract.

Case to case basis, if the player/s are concern about his physical health no one can force him to play, knowing that the virus still infecting more
people, if he don't want to risk his health then no one can force him.

There's reason behind and it's not simple even there's contract behind but reason can be contest since it's all about health security
that in risk.

[Rosilito]

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Different issues, different reasons.
Some of them are joining the Black Lives Matter movement like this one.

https://clutchpoints.com/lakers-news-dwight-howard-supports-kyrie-irving-refuses-play-basketball/

Some have issues the way management of Disney World is doing things.
Security, test, and staff. Those kinds of issues.

They all agree back in March and April until George Floyd's questionable death in the street.
Some players are shaken and others are trying to be in the middle of the racism issue.

Thanks for the clarification, man. But I don't see any report against the implementation of it except Portland who might be against the 22 teams, and prefer 20 teams to be invited with; (might be because Dame wouldn't play on the remaining 8 games  ). More over, there were protest as you mentioned, that is on-going issue about "Black Lives Matter" have in US   .

Talk about the protest, I stumble upon this latest statement about Howard in Reddit.
And here's what I got upon clicking the news:

"I agree with Kyrie (Irving). Basketball, or entertainment period, isn’t needed at this moment, and will only be a distraction. "I agree with Kyrie (Irving). Basketball, or entertainment period, isn’t needed at this moment, and will only be a distraction..."

Source: https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protests-06-13-20/h_84500290de6c422310dc94e3d71b93ab

TLDR, it seems he agree with Kyrie's voice out. Problem is that, the league had decided to resume the game having all the votes except Portland (Dunno about their certain reason than 20 teams, it ain't plausible though, anyway). Either way, July 30, IMO would be clearly a resume of the game no matter how against the several players are, with such ideology.

[Reid]

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Different issues, different reasons.
Some of them are joining the Black Lives Matter movement like this one.

https://clutchpoints.com/lakers-news-dwight-howard-supports-kyrie-irving-refuses-play-basketball/

Some have issues the way management of Disney World is doing things.
Security, test, and staff. Those kinds of issues.

They all agree back in March and April until George Floyd's questionable death in the street.
Some players are shaken and others are trying to be in the middle of the racism issue.

Thanks for the clarification, man. But I don't see any report against the implementation of it except Portland who might be against the 22 teams, and prefer 20 teams to be invited with; (might be because Dame wouldn't play on the remaining 8 games  ). More over, there were protest as you mentioned, that is on-going issue about "Black Lives Matter" have in US   .

Talk about the protest, I stumble upon this latest statement about Howard in Reddit.
And here's what I got upon clicking the news:

"I agree with Kyrie (Irving). Basketball, or entertainment period, isn’t needed at this moment, and will only be a distraction. "I agree with Kyrie (Irving). Basketball, or entertainment period, isn’t needed at this moment, and will only be a distraction..."

Source: https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protests-06-13-20/h_84500290de6c422310dc94e3d71b93ab

You're welcome!
Actually, the link I have shared with you is about the Howard thing.  
I hope you are updated also about the news in States that are going through mayhem because of this racism issue.
Fire, looting, etc..

TLDR, it seems he agree with Kyrie's voice out. Problem is that, the league had decided to resume the game having all the votes except Portland (Dunno about their certain reason than 20 teams, it ain't plausible though, anyway). Either way, July 30, IMO would be clearly a resume of the game no matter how against the several players are, with such ideology.

It is actually a problem because we have many African Americans in the NBA.
Just look at it this way.
Howard, Kyrie, and lot more supporting the African American fight against racism and then someone with the same color is playing while they are fighting for it.
How will you're about it?
They want to finish the battle of racism first before they could feel comfort in playing the game.

Austin Rivers though have a new idea.
https://abc7ny.com/sports/austin-rivers-nba-players-can-use-money-from-season-to-support-black-lives-matter/6246502/

Houston Rockets guard Austin Rivers made the case on Instagram that NBA players earning their salaries would be able to financially aid the cause while continuing to devote time and energy to the movement.

[FanEagle]

It is a very tricky subject to go against and criticize the players as well, you can't say anything because if you do either you are a bigot who doesn't understand science or the other one is you are racist and hate blacks. For example, I would like to say something like ; these players have gone outside to protest what has happened to blacks in the nation, yet they do not want to play in NBA with a fear of getting the said sickness, if you are afraid of the sickness why did you go out to protest?

Now this doesn't say you hate blacks, this doesn't say players should play neither, this just talks about a dilemma and whenever you say something like this people blame you for being a bigot and racist, when you are the one who has supported these people for over 2 decades but nobody knows that.

[Reid]

It is a very tricky subject to go against and criticize the players as well, you can't say anything because if you do either you are a bigot who doesn't understand science or the other one is you are racist and hate blacks. For example, I would like to say something like ; these players have gone outside to protest what has happened to blacks in the nation, yet they do not want to play in NBA with a fear of getting the said sickness, if you are afraid of the sickness why did you go out to protest?

Now this doesn't say you hate blacks, this doesn't say players should play neither, this just talks about a dilemma and whenever you say something like this people blame you for being a bigot and racist, when you are the one who has supported these people for over 2 decades but nobody knows that.

Indeed.
It's difficult to be in the position of NBA management.
They want to entertain people and yet they also want to respect decisions from NBA players who want to join the movement.

A huge portion of NBA players are African Americans and if you include people behind the scenes like security personnel and maintenance, there's a lot more.
As NBA players, they are role models for the mass and I think they are trying to show that by supporting the movement and to protect their race against discrimination.

[verita1]

The USA must make a profound change, and they are already taking their first step through peaceful protests. It is a situation that must solve this longstanding racism problem. The solution should be through voting and eliminating racism and discrimination. I hope, like you, that the violence will also cease, and we can see a spirit of optimism with the resumption of the season with the 22 teams.

https://www.nba.com/article/2020/06/04/board-of-governors-approves-nba-return-official-release