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June 15, 2020, 05:30:44 AM
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You're welcome!
Actually, the link I have shared with you is about the Howard thing.  Grin
I hope you are updated also about the news in States that are going through mayhem because of this racism issue.
Fire, looting, etc..
Oh boy, I missed that  Grin. My apologies


TLDR, it seems he agree with Kyrie's voice out. Problem is that, the league had decided to resume the game having all the votes except Portland (Dunno about their certain reason than 20 teams, it ain't plausible though, anyway). Either way, July 30, IMO would be clearly a resume of the game no matter how against the several players are, with such ideology.
It is actually a problem because we have many African Americans in the NBA.
Just look at it this way.
Howard, Kyrie, and lot more supporting the African American fight against racism and then someone with the same color is playing while they are fighting for it.
How will you're about it?
They want to finish the battle of racism first before they could feel comfort in playing the game.

Yeah, I agree, man. The dilemma Undecided , this would be a difficult choice for players... on which weigh more. But anyway it is still up for 'em to decide considering they will face no consequences other than a salary cut or whatever it is called. Problem is, it would be no fun to watch NBA games without those starters if they decided not to play at all  Sad.

Just to add, look what I found recently on twitter:

Source: https://twitter.com/patbev21/status/1272254786268618752?s=19

Am not sure how to look this at, it feels that it has two sides.
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June 15, 2020, 05:54:15 AM
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I think that issue will slowly be resolved while they resume the season, I mean, I am a bit bias as I can't wait for the NBA season to resume but I understand how the business runs, and just like the NBA plan to resume even if the covid-19 cases are still increasing, the reason is the economy itself, it has to be properly balance, otherwise USA as a great country will collapse if they only focus on security against covid and will not take care of the economy. I'm just talking here on the general point of view.

I agree, we are bias here but for good. 
Just want to watch the game again and of course to bet in our rooted team.

The USA must make a profound change, and they are already taking their first step through peaceful protests. It is a situation that must solve this longstanding racism problem. The solution should be through voting and eliminating racism and discrimination. I hope, like you, that the violence will also cease, and we can see a spirit of optimism with the resumption of the season with the 22 teams.

https://www.nba.com/article/2020/06/04/board-of-governors-approves-nba-return-official-release
We all wish for that.
Not just for African American but everyone which is being discriminated in the globe.
Let's stop the color division. Yellow, Brown, Black or White. We are all human.

They should create a bill that will protect us whenever it happens again.
It should reach the players too. They could use NBA as a tool to be heard and to stop the bad ways that could also harm the innocent.

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June 15, 2020, 06:13:59 AM
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I agree with Kyrie (Irving). Basketball, or entertainment period, isn’t needed at this moment, and will only be a distraction..."
Source: https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protests-06-13-20/h_84500290de6c422310dc94e3d71b93ab
Since those issues are deep and complicated, and won't be solved in  a few weeks or month, is Dwight Howard, and all the other players ready not to get salary for years, until all this get sorted? Somehow I doubt they would be ready to do that, to put NBA on hold  for longer period if their livelihood gets endangered.

I don't know, somehow I have a feeling that a lot of these NBA players simply jump onto wagon, while they were not so loud in the past in regard of these issues. The one I know was always talking about these issues is LeBron James, but now we can see even Jordan giving hundreds of million, while he didn't want to endorse Harvey Gantt when he went against Jesse Helms, who was known racist. I guess he feels stupid and ashamed now for saying "republicans buy sneakers too".


Austin Rivers though have a new idea.
https://abc7ny.com/sports/austin-rivers-nba-players-can-use-money-from-season-to-support-black-lives-matter/6246502/
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Houston Rockets guard Austin Rivers made the case on Instagram that NBA players earning their salaries would be able to financially aid the cause while continuing to devote time and energy to the movement.
Now this makes sense. Do your job, as there are bunch of other ways to support something you believe in, world doesn't have to stop. I mean I would understand if players go on strike in case there is systematic racism inside NBA organization. But in this situation, play the game, and then use money  and influence  to support whatever you want.  

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Austin Rivers though have a new idea.
https://abc7ny.com/sports/austin-rivers-nba-players-can-use-money-from-season-to-support-black-lives-matter/6246502/
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Houston Rockets guard Austin Rivers made the case on Instagram that NBA players earning their salaries would be able to financially aid the cause while continuing to devote time and energy to the movement.
Now this makes sense. Do your job, as there are bunch of other ways to support something you believe in, world doesn't have to stop. I mean I would understand if players go on strike in case there is systematic racism inside NBA organization. But in this situation, play the game, and then use money  and influence  to support whatever you want.  

In the end, they will still struggle if they continue to go with their principle, the world needs to continue just like that even in the current situation we are now, the government still allow business to resume as we need our economy to survive.

That racism issue does not only happen now, it happen in the past already and NBA is not tolerating that.
as you can see:

Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Banned for Life from NBA for Racist Remarks

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June 15, 2020, 08:30:44 AM
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Is that a news youtube channel for sports? that's a good if there is no punishment regarding the disagreement of players whenever they have a match.
From what I found, the league would reduced their salaries  Undecided.

To confirm it. I found this article:
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The league is reportedly not requiring its players to participate in the season restart if they are uncomfortable doing so. Players who voluntarily sit out would lose a portion of their salaries, but would otherwise face no consequences.
Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/.amp/nba/2020/06/13/kyrie-irving-nba-season-restart-orlando
(Phrase in bold is what confirms it)

Much better than going to into any sort of legalities. And it is understandable considering the situation they have right now in their country. Loads of confirmed cases, and an on-going protest against racism in some other state. Well, some players like Malcolm Brogdon, and Jaylen Brown, you name it have found participating in the protest.
It's good that this isn't compulsory but I'm sure the spirit of players that wants to play again is always there. Those that have enough savings can easily sit at their homes and watch their team compete.

I'd rather choose health but everyone doesn't have the same situation.



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That racism issue does not only happen now, it happen in the past already and NBA is not tolerating that.
as you can see:
Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Banned for Life from NBA for Racist Remarks
Yeah I am familar with that case, and it is another example how NBA deals with racism, and it doesn't tolerate it at all. So why hurt NBA then, by refusing to continue with season? Some of these players keep forgetting that many people will loose their jobs if NBA doesn't continue for a 6 month or a year. NBA is huge business, and many are dependent on that. Are they wiling to support all those people when they get fired?

Another thing, if something as trivial as basketball  can distract people so much from something as important, are they genuine in their protests? Even LeBron, who is usually very loud on the subject of racism, wants to continue this season without any further delay, as he realizes that there is room for both things at the same time, one doesn't exclude the other.

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June 15, 2020, 10:08:29 AM
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That racism issue does not only happen now, it happen in the past already and NBA is not tolerating that.
as you can see:
Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Banned for Life from NBA for Racist Remarks
Yeah I am familar with that case, and it is another example how NBA deals with racism, and it doesn't tolerate it at all. So why hurt NBA then, by refusing to continue with season? Some of these players keep forgetting that many people will loose their jobs if NBA doesn't continue for a 6 month or a year. NBA is huge business, and many are dependent on that. Are they wiling to support all those people when they get fired?

Another thing, if something as trivial as basketball  can distract people so much from something as important, are they genuine in their protests? Even LeBron, who is usually very loud on the subject of racism, wants to continue this season without any further delay, as he realizes that there is room for both things at the same time, one doesn't exclude the other.

Exactly, man. As if the league haven't been facing several problems back then. Am not sure, but looking upon their perspective I don't see any convincing reason to set aside the game just to push through their voices out, as if it would make things over right away  Huh. Not tryin' to mock them or what, maybe they do wanna just join the hype for the sake of getting entitled that they support the protest more than anybody else.

Couldn't blame for being mad about the on-going issue but cancelling the NBA as a whole is a different thing. People who tryin' to get paid to solve their financial problem needed to resume the game, as much as Dwight and Kyrie is concerned about the protest.

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June 15, 2020, 10:53:53 AM
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That racism issue does not only happen now, it happen in the past already and NBA is not tolerating that.
as you can see:

Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Banned for Life from NBA for Racist Remarks

That is April 2014.
Next to that is Jordan admitting he is racist at his young age.
May 2014 with the same source of article.  Grin
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2054700-michael-jordan-admits-he-considered-himself-a-racist-as-a-child

Happens to everyone when you experience a bad behaviour from another race or color.
I don't think this can be ended since there is still hatred living on each child or each person.

They should still resume NBA and let people know that there could be peace whatever color you may be.
You could be team mates or even better, brothers.

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June 15, 2020, 11:24:23 AM
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That racism issue does not only happen now, it happen in the past already and NBA is not tolerating that.
as you can see:

Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Banned for Life from NBA for Racist Remarks

That is April 2014.
Next to that is Jordan admitting he is racist at his young age.
May 2014 with the same source of article.  Grin
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2054700-michael-jordan-admits-he-considered-himself-a-racist-as-a-child

Happens to everyone when you experience a bad behaviour from another race or color.
I don't think this can be ended since there is still hatred living on each child or each person.

They should still resume NBA and let people know that there could be peace whatever color you may be.
You could be team mates or even better, brothers.

I'm pretty sure the NBA organization wants the season to resume, players can't stop them even with these controversy now.

Actually, they have to be professional as they are "professional player" NBA organization has nothing to do with racism as the organization itself has even ban an NBA team owner for just a racist remark.

What else do they need to see?

They belong in an organization that accepts different races, in fact, NBA opens up the organization for talents from different countries, that's why we've seen a lot of international players being popular in NBA, some example are, Luka Doncic, Dirk Nowitzki, Tony Parker, Manu Ginóbili, and many more.

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June 15, 2020, 02:46:06 PM
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Just to add, look what I found recently on twitter:

Source: https://twitter.com/patbev21/status/1272254786268618752?s=19

Am not sure how to look this at, it feels that it has two sides.

Looks like it. It feels sarcastic for me.
If it is not, then great.
Austin Rivers though have a new idea.
https://abc7ny.com/sports/austin-rivers-nba-players-can-use-money-from-season-to-support-black-lives-matter/6246502/
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Houston Rockets guard Austin Rivers made the case on Instagram that NBA players earning their salaries would be able to financially aid the cause while continuing to devote time and energy to the movement.
Now this makes sense. Do your job, as there are bunch of other ways to support something you believe in, world doesn't have to stop. I mean I would understand if players go on strike in case there is systematic racism inside NBA organization. But in this situation, play the game, and then use money  and influence  to support whatever you want.  

It is like being employed in an office job.
If they want a leave of absence then do it.
But they will need to go back if they want their teams to stay on top.
Especially those who are on the 8th-12th seed. I bet they want to participate in playoffs so badly which is why they need to play.
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June 15, 2020, 04:09:20 PM
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Looks like it. It feels sarcastic for me.
If it is not, then great.

He really likes to tease all star players LOL  Grin.


It's good that this isn't compulsory but I'm sure the spirit of players that wants to play again is always there. Those that have enough savings can easily sit at their homes and watch their team compete.

I'd rather choose health but everyone doesn't have the same situation.

Definitely, man. Talk about, the spirit to play again.

I happen to stumble across this recent news from Bleacher Report:
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Sure thing, Bron is dedicated to take the championship ring this season though. He needs to take this in to a new level before those young promising guys take over the league, his chances are getting slimmer as time passes by.
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June 15, 2020, 04:25:38 PM
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I bet Lakers or Clippers will be champions.

But let's see who will be in better shape both physically and emotionally after the global crisis.
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June 15, 2020, 06:01:44 PM
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Pattrick Beverley definitely did it sarcastically. If Lebron James suits up, if Los Angeles Lakers which is probably one of the most profitable and most known organizations in the world comes to court and NBA will allow all the games to continue without question, if you are a player who do not want to join, you are going to be forced to forfeit part of your salary and leave it on the table and probably not even going to get that much love from fans of the team neither.

So, we agree that there is a systematic racism towards blacks in their nation and that is bad but the better idea would be to play, and play it in a way that you wear shirts with "I can't breath" once again, hell even have black and white jerseys with that sentence written on it on all games, have flags of him everywhere and basically protest as much as you can while earning millions and give that to people in need. When you look at it, playing makes more sense.
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June 15, 2020, 06:24:19 PM
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I bet Lakers or Clippers will be champions.
Good choice. Grin

But let's see who will be in better shape both physically and emotionally after the global crisis.
Yeah, some of the players don't agree for continuing the season or let's say not fully confident to play when the NBA start. But yeah, who knows what will happen when the day comes.

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June 16, 2020, 08:15:27 AM
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Many people here consider Lakers and Clippers to be the championship favorites. A few pages earlier there was also a discussion about the rivalry of Lebron and Kawhi. See what Danny Green, guy who played with them both, says about both leaders.

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1272689341027024899

What type of leader would you prefer in a team? Louder like LBJ or more uncommunicative like KL? Personally, I think I would choose Lebron, although his huge charisma can be a great advantage, but sometimes it can also have a bad effect on the team. Anyway, I hope to see these players compete in the conference finals.

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June 16, 2020, 09:22:17 AM
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Many people here consider Lakers and Clippers to be the championship favorites. A few pages earlier there was also a discussion about the rivalry of Lebron and Kawhi. See what Danny Green, guy who played with them both, says about both leaders.

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1272689341027024899

What type of leader would you prefer in a team? Louder like LBJ or more uncommunicative like KL? Personally, I think I would choose Lebron, although his huge charisma can be a great advantage, but sometimes it can also have a bad effect on the team. Anyway, I hope to see these players compete in the conference finals.


There's no denying that they're both good. Experience wise I'd pick Bron over Kawhi, obviously because Bron had been on different teams, and had already been involve with more and different names than Kawhi, not to mention that he has been in playoffs numerous time in which gameplays are far more intense than regular season. Though imo Bron is a better a leader but it doesn't make Kawhi any less, there's still a lot of room for him to grow.

On the other hand, I think being a good leader knows how communicate with his team very well. Unfortunately Kawhi falls short in this aspect but anyway, as mentioned by Danny Green on the video he's becoming more vocal now, and that's a good thing. Imagine Kawhi being talkative  Grin.
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Many people here consider Lakers and Clippers to be the championship favorites. A few pages earlier there was also a discussion about the rivalry of Lebron and Kawhi. See what Danny Green, guy who played with them both, says about both leaders.

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1272689341027024899

What type of leader would you prefer in a team? Louder like LBJ or more uncommunicative like KL? Personally, I think I would choose Lebron, although his huge charisma can be a great advantage, but sometimes it can also have a bad effect on the team. Anyway, I hope to see these players compete in the conference finals.


LeBron's leadership has been proven, though what makes him put in the bad light, is that he's always surrounded with superstars. He might not be recruiting them, but some of them would love to play along with him.
Leonard on the other hand, isn't that good as a leader of the squad. He's just an excellent both offensive and defensive player, he's the best asset a team could ever had. But, If we're talking about leadership, I would also choose LeBron over Leonard.

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Many people here consider Lakers and Clippers to be the championship favorites. A few pages earlier there was also a discussion about the rivalry of Lebron and Kawhi. See what Danny Green, guy who played with them both, says about both leaders.

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1272689341027024899

What type of leader would you prefer in a team? Louder like LBJ or more uncommunicative like KL? Personally, I think I would choose Lebron, although his huge charisma can be a great advantage, but sometimes it can also have a bad effect on the team. Anyway, I hope to see these players compete in the conference finals.


LeBron's leadership has been proven, though what makes him put in the bad light, is that he's always surrounded with superstars. He might not be recruiting them, but some of them would love to play along with him.
Leonard on the other hand, isn't that good as a leader of the squad. He's just an excellent both offensive and defensive player, he's the best asset a team could ever had. But, If we're talking about leadership, I would also choose LeBron over Leonard.

I don't need to watch the 2 minutes video but I presume that Green will say that Lebron is the better player than Leonard since he is currently playing with Lebron now in the LA Lakers. If my personal view will count to you guys, lol... I would choose Kawhi Leonard over Lebron James as he is more clutch and can be trusted to give a win to his team, many times I've seen him take the last shot or bring the ball to score for his team in crucial times, so I would choose him over Lebron who would just pass the ball. Sorry, no offense to the Lebron fans but this is just my bias opinion.
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June 16, 2020, 10:55:15 AM
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It's good that this isn't compulsory but I'm sure the spirit of players that wants to play again is always there. Those that have enough savings can easily sit at their homes and watch their team compete.

I'd rather choose health but everyone doesn't have the same situation.

Definitely, man. Talk about, the spirit to play again.

I happen to stumble across this recent news from Bleacher Report:
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"LeBron is going to make sure those games [in Orlando] are played, because he knows they could have a huge impact on his legacy,"
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"He knows picking up one or two more titles is the potential tipping point, and he's determined to go for it."
Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2896224-nba-exec-lebron-james-will-make-sure-nba-returns-because-it-could-impact-legacy.amp.html

Sure thing, Bron is dedicated to take the championship ring this season though. He needs to take this in to a new level before those young promising guys take over the league, his chances are getting slimmer as time passes by.
Lebron sure is determined for this season because he knows that he's taking the crown and we're all believing that it's really for him this time. I just wish him to be at his best fit while taking this risk for his goal.



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June 16, 2020, 11:18:23 AM
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Many people here consider Lakers and Clippers to be the championship favorites. A few pages earlier there was also a discussion about the rivalry of Lebron and Kawhi. See what Danny Green, guy who played with them both, says about both leaders.

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1272689341027024899

What type of leader would you prefer in a team? Louder like LBJ or more uncommunicative like KL? Personally, I think I would choose Lebron, although his huge charisma can be a great advantage, but sometimes it can also have a bad effect on the team. Anyway, I hope to see these players compete in the conference finals.


LeBron's leadership has been proven, though what makes him put in the bad light, is that he's always surrounded with superstars. He might not be recruiting them, but some of them would love to play along with him.
Leonard on the other hand, isn't that good as a leader of the squad. He's just an excellent both offensive and defensive player, he's the best asset a team could ever had. But, If we're talking about leadership, I would also choose LeBron over Leonard.

I don't need to watch the 2 minutes video but I presume that Green will say that Lebron is the better player than Leonard since he is currently playing with Lebron now in the LA Lakers. If my personal view will count to you guys, lol... I would choose Kawhi Leonard over Lebron James as he is more clutch and can be trusted to give a win to his team, many times I've seen him take the last shot or bring the ball to score for his team in crucial times, so I would choose him over Lebron who would just pass the ball. Sorry, no offense to the Lebron fans but this is just my bias opinion.

I'm with you, Lebron is good but in terms of Leadership I like "THE CLAW" Kawhi Leonard as he is willing to take the last shot, the last season, in the playoffs and NBA finals, there's a lot of highlights we can see how Leonard carry his team, including a thrilling win over the sixers as after that win, they never struggle anymore winning the NBA Finals.

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