[ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet

[OmegaStarScream]

I find there a new version of Firmware.
So, after updating, device memory will be cleared and I need to reactivate device with seed? Right?
Can't it be updated without clearing memory?

Not necessarily, I remember making updates in the past without the need of re-typing my seed after finishing but yes, make sure you always have it before updating. If you don't, move your funds elsewhere, update and then move them back.

[jackbox]

I find there a new version of Firmware.
So, after updating, device memory will be cleared and I need to reactivate device with seed? Right?
Can't it be updated without clearing memory?

The latest update worked this way for me.

Trezor T - updated with no issues

Trezor One (two units) - both units the upate completely wiped memory and warned me first that I had to have my recovery words or move coins to another wallet first. I recovered both units after the update with their 24 words seeds.

[milewilda]

I find there a new version of Firmware.
So, after updating, device memory will be cleared and I need to reactivate device with seed? Right?
Can't it be updated without clearing memory?

The latest update worked this way for me.

Trezor T - updated with no issues

Trezor One (two units) - both units the upate completely wiped memory and warned me first that I had to have my recovery words or move coins to another wallet first. I recovered both units after the update with their 24 words seeds.

I have Trezor One and updated and thank goodness on that prompt message about transferring funds into other wallet.If not then i might lose and together been wiped out on such update.

[jackbox]

I find there a new version of Firmware.
So, after updating, device memory will be cleared and I need to reactivate device with seed? Right?
Can't it be updated without clearing memory?

The latest update worked this way for me.

Trezor T - updated with no issues

Trezor One (two units) - both units the upate completely wiped memory and warned me first that I had to have my recovery words or move coins to another wallet first. I recovered both units after the update with their 24 words seeds.

I have Trezor One and updated and thank goodness on that prompt message about transferring funds into other wallet.If not then i might lose and together been wiped out on such update.

You don't have your seed words backed up? There should be an offline, hand written copy put somewhere in a safe place. If you use a device like a Trezor or Ledger there is always a chance it can go bad. If you do not have your seed words all your coins would be lost. Not a very good practice.

[milewilda]

I find there a new version of Firmware.
So, after updating, device memory will be cleared and I need to reactivate device with seed? Right?
Can't it be updated without clearing memory?

The latest update worked this way for me.

Trezor T - updated with no issues

Trezor One (two units) - both units the upate completely wiped memory and warned me first that I had to have my recovery words or move coins to another wallet first. I recovered both units after the update with their 24 words seeds.

I have Trezor One and updated and thank goodness on that prompt message about transferring funds into other wallet.If not then i might lose and together been wiped out on such update.

You don't have your seed words backed up? There should be an offline, hand written copy put somewhere in a safe place. If you use a device like a Trezor or Ledger there is always a chance it can go bad. If you do not have your seed words all your coins would be lost. Not a very good practice.

There would always be a time where i do get confident too much with the security of my Hardware wallets which i do tend not to make offline backups of seeds which is basically a very very dangerous thing for us to neglect. Due on having a very busy life i had neglected to do such offline back-up even it is just a basic stuff to remember i do still failed up but now i had secured it out.
Writing in a paper and having also a notepad stored on 2-3 usb copies. 

[Bombardier]

I find there a new version of Firmware.
So, after updating, device memory will be cleared and I need to reactivate device with seed? Right?
Can't it be updated without clearing memory?

The latest update worked this way for me.

Trezor T - updated with no issues

Trezor One (two units) - both units the upate completely wiped memory and warned me first that I had to have my recovery words or move coins to another wallet first. I recovered both units after the update with their 24 words seeds.

I have Trezor One and updated and thank goodness on that prompt message about transferring funds into other wallet.If not then i might lose and together been wiped out on such update.

You don't have your seed words backed up? There should be an offline, hand written copy put somewhere in a safe place. If you use a device like a Trezor or Ledger there is always a chance it can go bad. If you do not have your seed words all your coins would be lost. Not a very good practice.

There would always be a time where i do get confident too much with the security of my Hardware wallets which i do tend not to make offline backups of seeds which is basically a very very dangerous thing for us to neglect. Due on having a very busy life i had neglected to do such offline back-up even it is just a basic stuff to remember i do still failed up but now i had secured it out.
Writing in a paper and having also a notepad stored on 2-3 usb copies.  

pro tip: invert few words or write all words except 1 or 2 or 3 but make sure to remember. in this way, if someone have your incomplete seed they can do nothing.

[jackbox]

I find there a new version of Firmware.
So, after updating, device memory will be cleared and I need to reactivate device with seed? Right?
Can't it be updated without clearing memory?

The latest update worked this way for me.

Trezor T - updated with no issues

Trezor One (two units) - both units the upate completely wiped memory and warned me first that I had to have my recovery words or move coins to another wallet first. I recovered both units after the update with their 24 words seeds.

I have Trezor One and updated and thank goodness on that prompt message about transferring funds into other wallet.If not then i might lose and together been wiped out on such update.

You don't have your seed words backed up? There should be an offline, hand written copy put somewhere in a safe place. If you use a device like a Trezor or Ledger there is always a chance it can go bad. If you do not have your seed words all your coins would be lost. Not a very good practice.

There would always be a time where i do get confident too much with the security of my Hardware wallets which i do tend not to make offline backups of seeds which is basically a very very dangerous thing for us to neglect. Due on having a very busy life i had neglected to do such offline back-up even it is just a basic stuff to remember i do still failed up but now i had secured it out.
Writing in a paper and having also a notepad stored on 2-3 usb copies.  

pro tip: invert few words or write all words except 1 or 2 or 3 but make sure to remember. in this way, if someone have your incomplete seed they can do nothing.

If I did that I would certainly forget the few missing words.

[milewilda]

I find there a new version of Firmware.
So, after updating, device memory will be cleared and I need to reactivate device with seed? Right?
Can't it be updated without clearing memory?

The latest update worked this way for me.

Trezor T - updated with no issues

Trezor One (two units) - both units the upate completely wiped memory and warned me first that I had to have my recovery words or move coins to another wallet first. I recovered both units after the update with their 24 words seeds.

I have Trezor One and updated and thank goodness on that prompt message about transferring funds into other wallet.If not then i might lose and together been wiped out on such update.

You don't have your seed words backed up? There should be an offline, hand written copy put somewhere in a safe place. If you use a device like a Trezor or Ledger there is always a chance it can go bad. If you do not have your seed words all your coins would be lost. Not a very good practice.

There would always be a time where i do get confident too much with the security of my Hardware wallets which i do tend not to make offline backups of seeds which is basically a very very dangerous thing for us to neglect. Due on having a very busy life i had neglected to do such offline back-up even it is just a basic stuff to remember i do still failed up but now i had secured it out.
Writing in a paper and having also a notepad stored on 2-3 usb copies.  

pro tip: invert few words or write all words except 1 or 2 or 3 but make sure to remember. in this way, if someone have your incomplete seed they can do nothing.

If I did that I would certainly forget the few missing words.

A considerable pro tip but most likely a very risky one specially when you stored up those coins in a wallet for a very long time where it would possibly come to a point that you would miss out that single word of yours on your seed thats would really be a devastating part.
Even infos stores on my USB's do still at risk yet anytime those things will malfunction thats why i decide to make 3 copies atleast you do have a back up when a certain back up had failed out.

[Bombardier]

I find there a new version of Firmware.
So, after updating, device memory will be cleared and I need to reactivate device with seed? Right?
Can't it be updated without clearing memory?

The latest update worked this way for me.

Trezor T - updated with no issues

Trezor One (two units) - both units the upate completely wiped memory and warned me first that I had to have my recovery words or move coins to another wallet first. I recovered both units after the update with their 24 words seeds.

I have Trezor One and updated and thank goodness on that prompt message about transferring funds into other wallet.If not then i might lose and together been wiped out on such update.

You don't have your seed words backed up? There should be an offline, hand written copy put somewhere in a safe place. If you use a device like a Trezor or Ledger there is always a chance it can go bad. If you do not have your seed words all your coins would be lost. Not a very good practice.

There would always be a time where i do get confident too much with the security of my Hardware wallets which i do tend not to make offline backups of seeds which is basically a very very dangerous thing for us to neglect. Due on having a very busy life i had neglected to do such offline back-up even it is just a basic stuff to remember i do still failed up but now i had secured it out.
Writing in a paper and having also a notepad stored on 2-3 usb copies.  

pro tip: invert few words or write all words except 1 or 2 or 3 but make sure to remember. in this way, if someone have your incomplete seed they can do nothing.

If I did that I would certainly forget the few missing words.

A considerable pro tip but most likely a very risky one specially when you stored up those coins in a wallet for a very long time where it would possibly come to a point that you would miss out that single word of yours on your seed thats would really be a devastating part.
Even infos stores on my USB's do still at risk yet anytime those things will malfunction thats why i decide to make 3 copies atleast you do have a back up when a certain back up had failed out.

and encrypt all USBs using truecrypt.

[examplens]

I find there a new version of Firmware.
So, after updating, device memory will be cleared and I need to reactivate device with seed? Right?
Can't it be updated without clearing memory?

The latest update worked this way for me.

Trezor T - updated with no issues

Trezor One (two units) - both units the upate completely wiped memory and warned me first that I had to have my recovery words or move coins to another wallet first. I recovered both units after the update with their 24 words seeds.

I have Trezor One and updated and thank goodness on that prompt message about transferring funds into other wallet.If not then i might lose and together been wiped out on such update.

You don't have your seed words backed up? There should be an offline, hand written copy put somewhere in a safe place. If you use a device like a Trezor or Ledger there is always a chance it can go bad. If you do not have your seed words all your coins would be lost. Not a very good practice.

Yes, I have backed up my seed, of course, just have not enough time if something went wrong.
I never tried my seed, and I don't want to experiment with funds on them.

[jackbox]

I find there a new version of Firmware.
So, after updating, device memory will be cleared and I need to reactivate device with seed? Right?
Can't it be updated without clearing memory?

The latest update worked this way for me.

Trezor T - updated with no issues

Trezor One (two units) - both units the upate completely wiped memory and warned me first that I had to have my recovery words or move coins to another wallet first. I recovered both units after the update with their 24 words seeds.

I have Trezor One and updated and thank goodness on that prompt message about transferring funds into other wallet.If not then i might lose and together been wiped out on such update.

You don't have your seed words backed up? There should be an offline, hand written copy put somewhere in a safe place. If you use a device like a Trezor or Ledger there is always a chance it can go bad. If you do not have your seed words all your coins would be lost. Not a very good practice.

Yes, I have backed up my seed, of course, just have not enough time if something went wrong.
I never tried my seed, and I don't want to experiment with funds on them.

There is now a recovery trial run to make sure your seed is valid. If you have a Trezor T the words are input on the device itself so never exposed to a computer. Also, now the Trezor One has an advanced recovery with a T9 style keyboard displayed on the device that changes every word so again the key is not exposed to the real world. You can do a trial run with advanced recovery to confirm your seed words are correct.

[GunsN]

Hello everyone, I couldn't receive DGB any more, there is some error message that the address isnot correct.

look at the picture please and does anybody know what is the problem? the firmware has already updated.
thanks

[Rath_]

Hello everyone, I couldn't receive DGB any more, there is some error message that the address isnot correct.

look at the picture please and does anybody know what is the problem? the firmware has already updated.
thanks

I have just checked DigiByte Core's changelog and it looks like they have changed the prefix of nested SegWit addresses from 3 to S. You could try replacing S with 3, but I don't guarantee that your coins will be in your wallet once you withdraw them. You can test it out with a small amount of coins. The same thing happened to Litecoin. TREZOR provides an external website to convert between the available formats of Litecoin addresses.

[jackbox]

Hello everyone, I couldn't receive DGB any more, there is some error message that the address isnot correct.

look at the picture please and does anybody know what is the problem? the firmware has already updated.
thanks

I have just checked DigiByte Core's changelog and it looks like they have changed the prefix of nested SegWit addresses from 3 to S. You could try replacing S with 3, but I don't guarantee that your coins will be in your wallet once you withdraw them. You can test it out with a small amount of coins. The same thing happened to Litecoin. TREZOR provides an external website to convert between the available formats of Litecoin addresses.

If you use Trezor wallet website you can go into settings and set the backend to https://explorer.digibyteprojects.com for DGB. Save and reload. This is showing the new Segwit addresses with the "S" prefix. All my old addresses were automatically changed in the history and if you generate a new receive address it will be in the proper format. Do that and try your withdrawal again.

[MadGamer]

Trezor is now supporting MetaMask, I believe It's the first hardware wallet that support that.

https://blog.trezor.io/trezor-metamask-ethereum-dapps-smart-contracts-announcement-dac153caa66c

[lavara]

Interesting design, a purse so kroshenok where you can see the technical specifications - you can duplicate if it's not difficult. I understand it is very compact and it will be possible to carry it with you? This is a good decision, what is the price of such a device-for example, at least, and how are you going to implement it?

[Rath_]

This is a good decision, what is the price of such a device-for example, at least, and how are you going to implement it?

TREZOR has been available for sale for quite a long time. They even released a new model with completely rewritten software, larger touchscreen and micro-SD slot. You can order it from their official shop. The first model costs 89 EUR and the other 149 EUR. I am surprised that you haven't heard of it.

[roslinpl]

Hey,

I found something interesting,

Case scenario:
  1. Plug-in your Trezor One.
  2. Go to "Receive" Tab.
  3. Click "Show full address".
  4. Don't "Check address on TREZOR".
  5. Close your browser / disconnect from wallet.trezor.io.
  6. Don't unplug your Trezor One.
  7. Open wallet.trezor.io again - even after a day or more.
  8. You can login without entering the PIN.

What do you think about it? Safe or need an update?  ;-)


Best wishes.

[jackbox]

Hey,

I found something interesting,

Case scenario:
  1. Plug-in your Trezor One.
  2. Go to "Receive" Tab.
  3. Click "Show full address".
  4. Don't "Check address on TREZOR".
  5. Close your browser / disconnect from wallet.trezor.io.
  6. Don't unplug your Trezor One.
  7. Open wallet.trezor.io again - even after a day or more.
  8. You can login without entering the PIN.

What do you think about it? Safe or need an update?  ;-)


Best wishes.

You enter your pin to enable the USB interface from the Trezor one to computer. It is up to your own personal security to unplug the Trezor one to log it out. I would never leave mine plugged in all day or overnight like that. When I finish the current transaction I unplug it straight away.

[Rath_]

What do you think about it? Safe or need an update?  ;-)

It seems to be the same for my TREZOR One which has the latest firmware. When I open the wallet again, the website asks me to enter only my passphrase. "You’ll then need to enter this same PIN each time you are about the do the first transaction using your freshly plugged-in TREZOR." - after a while of testing I noticed that the device lock timer stops on "Show full address" and resets when you confirm on the TREZOR that the address is correct. It seems to be a bug.

It is up to your own personal security to unplug the Trezor one to log it out.

TREZOR locks itself after 10 minutes of inactivity by default.