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Author Topic: [ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet  (Read 966178 times)
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October 22, 2014, 03:29:26 AM
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Hey guys, do you plan to have an android app with full support (spending).

It would be very nice since I travel lot and do not want  to take my workstation.

Kind regards.

i read somewhee in this topic that there is an trezor-android github or sopething. Would be nice indeed.
Also, the MyTrezor app only supports USD. Would be nice to see all currencies from bitcoinaverage.com implemented...



What do you mean it only supports USD, I have only seen the balances in BTC every time I have used it
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October 22, 2014, 04:30:10 AM
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Hey guys, do you plan to have an android app with full support (spending).

It would be very nice since I travel lot and do not want  to take my workstation.

Kind regards.

I think I read mycelium guys are considering trezor support. After they implemented the necessary BIPs for HD and mnemonic, integrating https://github.com/trezor/trezor-android doesn't seem far-fetched.

Don't expect satoshilabs to come up with more wallet software... they've done their part, I'd say (and pretty well, too). Division of labor!

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October 22, 2014, 08:44:13 AM
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Also, the MyTrezor app only supports USD. Would be nice to see all currencies from bitcoinaverage.com implemented...



What do you mean it only supports USD, I have only seen the balances in BTC every time I have used it

App as in the "myTrezor Lite" Android app.
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October 22, 2014, 02:45:53 PM
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i got two accounts in my trezor
one now is desappeared, i do not know why
how to recovery it?? Huh

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October 22, 2014, 02:46:09 PM
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Also, the MyTrezor app only supports USD. Would be nice to see all currencies from bitcoinaverage.com implemented...



What do you mean it only supports USD, I have only seen the balances in BTC every time I have used it

App as in the "myTrezor Lite" Android app.
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i installed the app, do not work. when i scan the qrcode givse me error
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October 22, 2014, 02:51:55 PM
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what's app if i click this   Huh Huh
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October 22, 2014, 03:00:06 PM
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what's app if i click this   Huh Huh

It will wipe your Trezor and you can run the setup wizard again, just like when you first got it.

I decided to no longer use a signature, because people were trolling me about it.
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October 22, 2014, 03:24:43 PM
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what's app if i click this  Huh Huh

It will wipe your Trezor and you can run the setup wizard again, just like when you first got it.

holy fck! so i'll loose all my existing wallett if i click it?
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October 22, 2014, 03:36:50 PM
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what's app if i click this  Huh Huh

It will wipe your Trezor and you can run the setup wizard again, just like when you first got it.

holy fck! so i'll loose all my existing wallett if i click it?


no you won't lose your coins, but you will need to restore the coins with the recovery seed.   I have never done this yet, but the process looks pretty self explanatory...
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October 22, 2014, 06:03:59 PM
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what's app if i click this  Huh Huh

It will wipe your Trezor and you can run the setup wizard again, just like when you first got it.

holy fck! so i'll loose all my existing wallett if i click it?


Given your response, it seems unlikely you are in possesion of a Trezor, otherwise you wouldn't ask such a stupid question. If you have written down your seed, you cannot loose your btc when wiping the device.

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October 22, 2014, 06:19:07 PM
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But I think, that it should be wise to drop "Bits Of Proof" if that's the "so called backend" and replace it with something more decent, perhaps "chain.com" can be a contender?

Unfortunately no other blockchain explorers understand BIP32 ...

Is that necessary or even desirable? Is the root xpub uploaded to mytrezor.com servers for balance check? That's pretty bad for privacy, no?

Yes horrible privacy, trezor has many mistakes like this that harms the product privacy. The faster electrum can get out of beta the better!

you mean "myTrezor.com".


Yes mytrezor.com
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October 22, 2014, 06:43:05 PM
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what's app if i click this  Huh Huh

It will wipe your Trezor and you can run the setup wizard again, just like when you first got it.

holy fck! so i'll loose all my existing wallett if i click it?


dude, you wrote down those seed words when you setup your trezor, didn't you?

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October 22, 2014, 08:12:48 PM
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That armory dude just needs to read the manual. Or RTFM for short

https://www.buytrezor.com?a=55c37b866c11   well sir, I like it!
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October 22, 2014, 08:43:30 PM
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I've just put together a guide for running python-Trezor on a cold offline Raspberry Pi
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2k0zjt/guide_pythontrezor_on_cold_offline_raspberry_pi/
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October 22, 2014, 11:10:33 PM
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i got two accounts in my trezor
one now is desappeared, i do not know why
how to recovery it?? Huh



do you have balances in both accounts?   It says you have to have a balance in the 1 to have a 2nd account, and so forth...
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October 23, 2014, 01:55:00 AM
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i got two accounts in my trezor
one now is desappeared, i do not know why
how to recovery it?? Huh



do you have balances in both accounts?   It says you have to have a balance in the 1 to have a 2nd account, and so forth...

Yes. You can add an account but if it does not receive anything it hides till you are ready to use it.

https://www.buytrezor.com?a=55c37b866c11   well sir, I like it!
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October 23, 2014, 03:00:31 AM
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But I think, that it should be wise to drop "Bits Of Proof" if that's the "so called backend" and replace it with something more decent, perhaps "chain.com" can be a contender?

Unfortunately no other blockchain explorers understand BIP32 ...

Bits of Proof delivered a software without not a single TREZOR would have been useful or sold until now.

It supports your technology just as you wished for. It serves hundreds of your customer in every moment for more than a half a year.

You could be regarded fortunate having such a partner. Unfortunately you do not see it.
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October 23, 2014, 03:12:45 AM
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But I think, that it should be wise to drop "Bits Of Proof" if that's the "so called backend" and replace it with something more decent, perhaps "chain.com" can be a contender?

Unfortunately no other blockchain explorers understand BIP32 ...

Bits of Proof delivered a software without not a single TREZOR would have been useful or sold until now.

It supports your technology just as you wished for. It serves hundreds of your customer in every moment for more than a half a year.

You could be regarded fortunate having such a partner. Unfortunately you do not see it.

Just a hint for both of you: this is not the place for this discussion, it makes both of your companies look bad.
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October 23, 2014, 03:28:11 AM
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But I think, that it should be wise to drop "Bits Of Proof" if that's the "so called backend" and replace it with something more decent, perhaps "chain.com" can be a contender?

Unfortunately no other blockchain explorers understand BIP32 ...

Bits of Proof delivered a software without not a single TREZOR would have been useful or sold until now.

It supports your technology just as you wished for. It serves hundreds of your customer in every moment for more than a half a year.

You could be regarded fortunate having such a partner. Unfortunately you do not see it.

Stick you don't need a blockchain explorer to know anything about BIP32 or BIP44. Just generate 100 addresses at a time, don't show the ones with no transactions, unless the next address has transaction or a balance. Chain.com can handle this pretty easily and probably can be done all in javascript client side, not leaking the BIP32 Xpub key making it extremely more private.

They even have web hooks (https://chain.com/docs#webhooks-receiving) that you can use to push transactions to every user using websockets and have the javascript client side parse it and update the view. You could even just websockets the addresses changed in the transactions and if that matches an address the javascript client has, then update the transaction list and balances.

You don't need a block explorer to speak bip32!
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October 23, 2014, 04:48:38 AM
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But I think, that it should be wise to drop "Bits Of Proof" if that's the "so called backend" and replace it with something more decent, perhaps "chain.com" can be a contender?

Unfortunately no other blockchain explorers understand BIP32 ...

Bits of Proof delivered a software without not a single TREZOR would have been useful or sold until now.

It supports your technology just as you wished for. It serves hundreds of your customer in every moment for more than a half a year.

You could be regarded fortunate having such a partner. Unfortunately you do not see it.

Stick you don't need a blockchain explorer to know anything about BIP32 or BIP44. Just generate 100 addresses at a time, don't show the ones with no transactions, unless the next address has transaction or a balance. Chain.com can handle this pretty easily and probably can be done all in javascript client side, not leaking the BIP32 Xpub key making it extremely more private.

They even have web hooks (https://chain.com/docs#webhooks-receiving) that you can use to push transactions to every user using websockets and have the javascript client side parse it and update the view. You could even just websockets the addresses changed in the transactions and if that matches an address the javascript client has, then update the transaction list and balances.

You don't need a block explorer to speak bip32!

There's more alternative infrastructure that could potentially be used: electrum-server, obelisk and probably more.

In my view however, myTrezor was (is) just an interim solution deployed while wallet devs implemented trezor support. Once enough alternatives exist, myTrezor.com can be replaced by a static page with links to supporting wallets.

So I would just run with the (almost) working BoP backend, attack those issues and wait it out. I don't know where exactly the problems stem from, but it surely casts a bad light on BoP that claims to be "enterprise ready". Graus attitude displayed here ("without BoP myTrezor wouldn't work", "you should feel fortunate") doesn't help the cause, either. The fact that communications between grau and stick are conducted here in public is not a good sign.

As always let me add that I'm tremendously happy with electrum + trezor myself, so I'm "not affected", so to speak.

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