[$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][TOR/i2P][no premine/ico!]

[g0ldm0ney10]

I just reached out to Kraken, Bitfinex, Yunbi, BTC-e to see what we could do to try and get on their exchanges.  I will see if we get any to response.

[ttookk]

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To incentivize running an i2p node, and to get those who run i2p nodes to simultaneously mine Verge, require running an i2p node in order to mine Verge? Also, enable wallet users to run an i2p node in the interface.

Hmm, that's actually an interesting idea: Somehow reward those who run I2P nodes with Verge. Maybe by giving them a higher block reward or something?

I'm not too familiar with I2P technology, but I guess as with Tor, the more nodes you have, the better. Incentivising running nodes by paying rewards to those who do sounds interesting. I'm not too sure whether Verge is the right coin for that job, though. That sounds more like a PoS/DPoS thing. Although: Maybe you could give PoS/DPoS rewards to node providers and have PoW secure the blockchain "from outside"? Hmmm…

Hey dogedarkdev, wanna chime in on that one?

I'm not sure whether I2P is the best thing to use this on, but I like the idea of using Verge as a means to encourage people to set up I2P/Tor/whatever nodes.

Especially if you combine this with mining/coin creation using aforementioned networks, you'd have Verge that doesn't have to enter those networks at some point, it would be created and used withing those networks. This might cancel out another attack vector.

Admittedly, I don't have much knowledge on those matters, so anything I write could be utter nonense. If it is, tell me

[Dogedarkdev]

(snip)

To incentivize running an i2p node, and to get those who run i2p nodes to simultaneously mine Verge, require running an i2p node in order to mine Verge? Also, enable wallet users to run an i2p node in the interface.

Hmm, that's actually an interesting idea: Somehow reward those who run I2P nodes with Verge. Maybe by giving them a higher block reward or something?

I'm not too familiar with I2P technology, but I guess as with Tor, the more nodes you have, the better. Incentivising running nodes by paying rewards to those who do sounds interesting. I'm not too sure whether Verge is the right coin for that job, though. That sounds more like a PoS/DPoS thing. Although: Maybe you could give PoS/DPoS rewards to node providers and have PoW secure the blockchain "from outside"? Hmmm…

Hey dogedarkdev, wanna chime in on that one?

I'm not sure whether I2P is the best thing to use this on, but I like the idea of using Verge as a means to encourage people to set up I2P/Tor/whatever nodes.

Especially if you combine this with mining/coin creation using aforementioned networks, you'd have Verge that doesn't have to enter those networks at some point, it would be created and used withing those networks. This might cancel out another attack vector.

Admittedly, I don't have much knowledge on those matters, so anything I write could be utter nonense. If it is, tell me

well the next wallets will have a version with i2p built in, and you are a node whenever you are running a wallet..  and another wallet will have tor built in

[ttookk]

(snip)

To incentivize running an i2p node, and to get those who run i2p nodes to simultaneously mine Verge, require running an i2p node in order to mine Verge? Also, enable wallet users to run an i2p node in the interface.

Hmm, that's actually an interesting idea: Somehow reward those who run I2P nodes with Verge. Maybe by giving them a higher block reward or something?

I'm not too familiar with I2P technology, but I guess as with Tor, the more nodes you have, the better. Incentivising running nodes by paying rewards to those who do sounds interesting. I'm not too sure whether Verge is the right coin for that job, though. That sounds more like a PoS/DPoS thing. Although: Maybe you could give PoS/DPoS rewards to node providers and have PoW secure the blockchain "from outside"? Hmmm…

Hey dogedarkdev, wanna chime in on that one?

I'm not sure whether I2P is the best thing to use this on, but I like the idea of using Verge as a means to encourage people to set up I2P/Tor/whatever nodes.

Especially if you combine this with mining/coin creation using aforementioned networks, you'd have Verge that doesn't have to enter those networks at some point, it would be created and used withing those networks. This might cancel out another attack vector.

Admittedly, I don't have much knowledge on those matters, so anything I write could be utter nonense. If it is, tell me

well the next wallets will have a version with i2p built in, and you are a node whenever you are running a wallet..  and another wallet will have tor built in

Wow, that I2P node thing is nice

I can't help but point out that this, combined with a PoS coin would be VERY interesting.
And no, this is not an attempt at stirring up the old "Verge should go PoS" argument again.

[Dogedarkdev]

(snip)

To incentivize running an i2p node, and to get those who run i2p nodes to simultaneously mine Verge, require running an i2p node in order to mine Verge? Also, enable wallet users to run an i2p node in the interface.

Hmm, that's actually an interesting idea: Somehow reward those who run I2P nodes with Verge. Maybe by giving them a higher block reward or something?

I'm not too familiar with I2P technology, but I guess as with Tor, the more nodes you have, the better. Incentivising running nodes by paying rewards to those who do sounds interesting. I'm not too sure whether Verge is the right coin for that job, though. That sounds more like a PoS/DPoS thing. Although: Maybe you could give PoS/DPoS rewards to node providers and have PoW secure the blockchain "from outside"? Hmmm…

Hey dogedarkdev, wanna chime in on that one?

I'm not sure whether I2P is the best thing to use this on, but I like the idea of using Verge as a means to encourage people to set up I2P/Tor/whatever nodes.

Especially if you combine this with mining/coin creation using aforementioned networks, you'd have Verge that doesn't have to enter those networks at some point, it would be created and used withing those networks. This might cancel out another attack vector.

Admittedly, I don't have much knowledge on those matters, so anything I write could be utter nonense. If it is, tell me

well the next wallets will have a version with i2p built in, and you are a node whenever you are running a wallet..  and another wallet will have tor built in

Wow, that I2P node thing is nice

I can't help but point out that this, combined with a PoS coin would be VERY interesting.
And no, this is not an attempt at stirring up the old "Verge should go PoS" argument again.

no, i understand. i think after pow, we will switch to some sort of non-work system.. maybe a proof of stake, but equal rewarding, instead of % of holdings..

[Dogedarkdev]

(snip)

To incentivize running an i2p node, and to get those who run i2p nodes to simultaneously mine Verge, require running an i2p node in order to mine Verge? Also, enable wallet users to run an i2p node in the interface.

Hmm, that's actually an interesting idea: Somehow reward those who run I2P nodes with Verge. Maybe by giving them a higher block reward or something?

I'm not too familiar with I2P technology, but I guess as with Tor, the more nodes you have, the better. Incentivising running nodes by paying rewards to those who do sounds interesting. I'm not too sure whether Verge is the right coin for that job, though. That sounds more like a PoS/DPoS thing. Although: Maybe you could give PoS/DPoS rewards to node providers and have PoW secure the blockchain "from outside"? Hmmm…

Hey dogedarkdev, wanna chime in on that one?

I'm not sure whether I2P is the best thing to use this on, but I like the idea of using Verge as a means to encourage people to set up I2P/Tor/whatever nodes.

Especially if you combine this with mining/coin creation using aforementioned networks, you'd have Verge that doesn't have to enter those networks at some point, it would be created and used withing those networks. This might cancel out another attack vector.

Admittedly, I don't have much knowledge on those matters, so anything I write could be utter nonense. If it is, tell me

well the next wallets will have a version with i2p built in, and you are a node whenever you are running a wallet..  and another wallet will have tor built in

Wow, that I2P node thing is nice

I can't help but point out that this, combined with a PoS coin would be VERY interesting.
And no, this is not an attempt at stirring up the old "Verge should go PoS" argument again.

no, i understand. i think after pow, we will switch to some sort of non-work system.. maybe a proof of stake, but equal rewarding, instead of % of holdings..

If the stakes are public that seems like the opposite of private. If rewards are equal then every wallet would hold the minimum value. I'm not getting how this would improve Verge. Like, if it's not broke don't fix it kind of thing.

i said after pow. thats like, decades away.

[Beachguy]

Wow it really is....the 3,125 XVG reward halves again at block 714,000.
Then we go from 714,000 to 2,124,000 at 1,560 XVG reward.
That's 1,410,000 blocks.
That's going to take some time guys. 

[g0ldm0ney10]

I just reached out to Kraken, Bitfinex, Yunbi, BTC-e to see what we could do to try and get on their exchanges.  I will see if we get any to response.

UPDATE 7/29/16

Kraken - reached back out and here is there response.

Hello,

We do not have a formal way to request a coin, but judge coins based on many parameters.

Best,

Josh

My response - Our page here so they can review with our website, blockchain and highlights on why Verge is the coin to change the world.

Their response was  Hello,

Thanks for the suggestion, I will make a note of your request, but to be clear we don't have any plans to add it at this time and are only considering it as a feature request that we may or may not accommodate.

Best,

Josh

Bitfinex - reached back out and here is there response.  

Thanks for your message

We have no plans to list any additional coins in the immediate future

The volume of a coin plays a large part in any decision to list a coin -- and this has to be substantial

We constantly monitor the market but as of right now , no coin ( that we have not already listed) comes even close to matching our criteria

My response:  Our page here and how we have been number 1 on Bittrex at times before with 500 BTC volume and that we are looking to grow with other exchanges, so we will see if they say anything back.

Yunbi - reached back out and here is there response.

Thank you for reaching us.
Yunbi will only list crypto coins which may have a chance to change the world.
If you are interested, you can give us some background information.
We will do the research work.

My response: Our page here so they can review with our website, blockchain and highlights on why Verge is the coin to change the world.  This seems promising and hoping we can get onto Yunbi soon!!  I will see what they say we need to do in the future.

BTC-e - Reached back out with just a hello for now so still need to try and get in touch with them.


Stayed tuned!!  

[nubbins7]

Good work bro thanks for getting the word out to other exchanges.

[TheSignsGuy]

Wow it really is....the 3,125 XVG reward halves again at block 714,000.
Then we go from 714,000 to 2,124,000 at 1,560 XVG reward.
That's 1,410,000 blocks.
That's going to take some time guys. 

It seems to me that it will take some time to reach the end of the scheduled block rewards, but not too much.

I did the math a while ago and believe that I came up with the end of the block rewards to be about three or four years out.
Kind of wondering what happens after block 4,248,000 though.
I plan on sticking around to see.

One of the things that attracted me to this currency was that it was stated to be a secure, private and evolving one.

That kind of keeps the door open for XVG to be what it is needed to be at the time, without being "locked" into any certain criteria.

Maybe a new reward system coming at the end, to fit what is needed, then.

[A_McGriff]

It seems to me that it will take some time to reach the end of the scheduled block rewards, but not too much.

I did the math a while ago and believe that I came up with the end of the block rewards to be about three or four years out.
Kind of wondering what happens after block 4,248,000 though.
I plan on sticking around to see.

One of the things that attracted me to this currency was that it was stated to be a secure, private and evolving one.

That kind of keeps the door open for XVG to be what it is needed to be at the time, without being "locked" into any certain criteria.

Maybe a new reward system coming at the end, to fit what is needed, then.

“Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own.” -Bruce Lee

[Dogedarkdev]

It seems to me that it will take some time to reach the end of the scheduled block rewards, but not too much.

I did the math a while ago and believe that I came up with the end of the block rewards to be about three or four years out.
Kind of wondering what happens after block 4,248,000 though.
I plan on sticking around to see.

One of the things that attracted me to this currency was that it was stated to be a secure, private and evolving one.

That kind of keeps the door open for XVG to be what it is needed to be at the time, without being "locked" into any certain criteria.

Maybe a new reward system coming at the end, to fit what is needed, then.

“Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own.” -Bruce Lee

i concur!

[ljconstructionpa]

Any update on the ANDROID wallet? 

[Dogedarkdev]

Any update on the ANDROID wallet? 

yeah im still working on it. i think itll be done before the end of the month.

[tacocat]

Yo dev,

Found a really sketchy website that i think is scraping info about random cryptos and making fake articles that link to malware including articles about XVG. I think it makes really short fake "Articles" about XVG and then redirects to an ad site, and then finally a fake facebook site.

FAKE NEWS SITE:  https://cryptozap.wordpress.com/2016/02/29/verge-xvg-the-next-big-crypto-currency-is-here-for-2016-says-the-alt-coin-experts-of-bitcoin-talk/

Its pretty crazy because it has like "suggested articles for XVG" but they are all short and link to what is clearly a site that's gonna steal information/give you a virus.

Thought people show know just in case.

[Dogedarkdev]

Yo dev,

Found a really sketchy website that i think is scraping info about random cryptos and making fake articles that link to malware including articles about XVG. I think it makes really short fake "Articles" about XVG and then redirects to an ad site, and then finally a fake facebook site.

FAKE NEWS SITE:  https://cryptozap.wordpress.com/2016/02/29/verge-xvg-the-next-big-crypto-currency-is-here-for-2016-says-the-alt-coin-experts-of-bitcoin-talk/

Its pretty crazy because it has like "suggested articles for XVG" but they are all short and link to what is clearly a site that's gonna steal information/give you a virus.

Thought people show know just in case.

i'll have a look n find out who's behind it. if i get info, ill post it here. thanks for reporting this man!

[bitLeap]

just wanted to say hi to all of you who support Verge I'm away but I'm sure this coin is doing great and will surprise a lot of people in the future. 

[nubbins7]

Yo dev,

Found a really sketchy website that i think is scraping info about random cryptos and making fake articles that link to malware including articles about XVG. I think it makes really short fake "Articles" about XVG and then redirects to an ad site, and then finally a fake facebook site.

FAKE NEWS SITE:  https://cryptozap.wordpress.com/2016/02/29/verge-xvg-the-next-big-crypto-currency-is-here-for-2016-says-the-alt-coin-experts-of-bitcoin-talk/

Its pretty crazy because it has like "suggested articles for XVG" but they are all short and link to what is clearly a site that's gonna steal information/give you a virus.

Thought people show know just in case.

WOW thats messed up.

[Dogedarkdev]

helped someone with an issue they were having on the web wallet, they had lost their google 2fa.. and guess what?! i realized there are over 300 users on the web wallet now.

:mind blown:

made a few updates to the electrum server, android wallet will be back up shortly, along with multiple electrum servers coming up.

[Dogedarkdev]

so if you haven't noticed, i've been around a bit more past few days.. just finished up a long contract, and now im excited to say i have a few weeks to spend on my babe, xvg!

so, prepare for non stop, coffee-fueled, spontaneously-timed releases over the next couple of weeks.