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Daniel Ricciardo is positive to COVID.
If he can't recover Oscar Piastri will be probably his substitute for the race, borrowed from ALPINE.

He is an elite driver.

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[LTU_btc]

Daniel Ricciardo is positive to COVID.
If he can't recover Oscar Piastri will be probably his substitute for the race, borrowed from ALPINE.

He is an elite driver.

I think it's unlikely that Ricciardo won't recover until the new season, though it would be interesting to see Piastri. It's a bit shity situation to get Covid and miss tests with completely new car, but still, it's probably better than getting Covid during the season and miss race because of it.

[Davian144]

Carlos Checa also predicts that Yamaha will be strong in Mandalika... Fyi, before the track resurfacing Honda is strong in Mandalika. But, as Checa said, Mandalika's pre-season test results were "no longer valid" because they had been (partially) re-paved + the track was very dirty at the time. Then how about this weekend, will there be a difference
^{Quoted from: https://www.instagram.com/p/CbCbSDnJigi/}

In this case I slightly agree and agree with what Checa said because in general Yamaha will be helped by the many corners at the Mandalika circuit and also the not too long straight on the Mandalika circuit so that the Ducati factory will find it a little difficult to bring out the potential of the bike. although they have a lot of power in the engine, but considering the straight track is not as long as in Qatar, then there is also truth in Checa's prediction that Ducati will have difficulties again in Mandalika.

[el kaka22]

I don't want to draw any conclusions from testing. It's difficult to talk about real potential of teams - they are hiding some things before the season. Though, Ferrari indeed looks impressive. What do you think about Hamilton words that in season start they aren't ready to compete for the wins? For me it looks like sandbagging, something similar like ''Bono, my tires is gone''
Can't believe that season starts next week, can't wait for it.

I do not think that they are making a big deal. People are just taking his words out of context and making it sound like Mercedes is at the end of the grid right now. This is more about "there is more potential left in the car that we haven't tapped yet, it could get better" and that's it. Sure, they are not at 100% right now, and sure maybe Ferrari is better right now. But, that could also mean that Ferrari is using 100% and doing well whereas Mercedes haven't found their 100% yet, and in a few races they could find it. So the more they race, the better they will get for sure. Remember how Red Bull had like 5+ games winning streak against Mercedes.

At certain point, Max was like 30+ seconds ahead of everyone. What happened? Mercedes still won the constructors and lost the drivers with one call. So we should not overestimate things Hamilton says. It just means they are not at max capacity and it may take a while but they will get there.

[Cnut237]

At certain point, Max was like 30+ seconds ahead of everyone. What happened? Mercedes still won the constructors and lost the drivers with one call. So we should not overestimate things Hamilton says. It just means they are not at max capacity and it may take a while but they will get there.

I think last season, Mercedes started at a disadvantage because of how the new rules affected low- and high-rake cars differently. It took them some time to sort that out. But also some of the Red Bull advantage was due to their flexing wing, which IIRC was deemed illegal and they had to stop using it... so by the end of the season the Merc was on a par or even slightly better than them.

As for this season, Mercedes are a big unknown. It does look like they genuinely have some problems at the moment. But equally, if they can make their crazy new design work, they could end up with the best car... we just don't know. The only thing pre-season can really show is which cars have problems. Ferrari and Red Bull look fine, Merc a little less so.

[Luzin]

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Maybe this Mandalika series will be the first time I see a Moto GP race done during the day, with a time difference of 2 hours in my province. Although I won't see it in person, I'm looking forward to this moment. Of course I will feel proud, maybe this is the first time I know MotoGP is done in my country, although if I read there was once a MotoGP event in Indonesia.
The chances of a race result are probably me to remain favourites for the bike with great power. The results of the trial conducted by Pol Espargaro became the fastest rider in quartararo. But maybe for the main series it will be very different because the speed of each lap does not necessarily determine the outcome of the race.

[tokeweed]

Daniel Ricciardo is positive to COVID.
If he can't recover Oscar Piastri will be probably his substitute for the race, borrowed from ALPINE.

He is an elite driver.

I think it's unlikely that Ricciardo won't recover until the new season, though it would be interesting to see Piastri. It's a bit shity situation to get Covid and miss tests with completely new car, but still, it's probably better than getting Covid during the season and miss race because of it.

Covid is mostly overrated although there are strains that really could knock you down more than the flu.  I had a couple of friends and their families who had it.  Symptoms were mostly mild but the couple of people who had it like a really bad flu and they couldn't get out of bed for a few days or so.  But all in all nothing life threatening.

Anyway, just claimed my free bet at Sportsbet and looking to bet it on the season opener.  I think it's one of the Ferraris who wins the race.  LecLerc at 6, Sainz at 9.  Hmmm.. I think Carlos Sainz gets it.  What do you guys think?

[Cnut237]

looking to bet it on the season opener.  I think it's one of the Ferraris who wins the race.  LecLerc at 6, Sainz at 9.  Hmmm.. I think Carlos Sainz gets it.  What do you guys think?

If I had to put a bet on right now, then I'd go with a Ferrari, yes, or maybe Max depending on what the odds are.
But I'm not willing to bet at the moment, as I just don't think we'll have anything like a clear picture until after qualifying. This season is the start of a new era, and there are too many unknowns.
I'd go Ferrari if I had to, but that's largely guessing.

[RealMalatesta]

Daniel Ricciardo is positive to COVID.
If he can't recover Oscar Piastri will be probably his substitute for the race, borrowed from ALPINE.

He is an elite driver.

I think it's unlikely that Ricciardo won't recover until the new season, though it would be interesting to see Piastri. It's a bit shity situation to get Covid and miss tests with completely new car, but still, it's probably better than getting Covid during the season and miss race because of it.

I would guess that the "never get it" option would be even better Obviously big get well soon to Danny and hopefully he gets better until the new season starts. We saw what we can see from the cars already and from here on out I believe that it is all about just getting a bit more racing done.

Lando got in a lot of racing thanks to being out there all day. They had to keep getting the car in and out all the time and that is of course not great for getting used to the car but I also believe that the reason why they did that was the fact that they had a lot of testing for Bahrain as well, so they micro managed the car and made it as perfect as it could be probably.

[LTU_btc]

I already wanted to check weather forecast for upcoming race, but forgot that we're in Bahrain . Anyway, seems that it won't be that hot, 24-26°C during Saturday and Sunday. So, maybe teams won't have problems with overheating brakes.

I would guess that the "never get it" option would be even better Obviously big get well soon to Danny and hopefully he gets better until the new season starts. We saw what we can see from the cars already and from here on out I believe that it is all about just getting a bit more racing done.

Yeah, option "never get it" is the best one. But probably it's only matter of time when most us will get covid. From all my friends, colleagues, family, there is very few left who still didn't had covid.

[Davian144]

It is planned that the Mandalika MotoGP Race will be held for 27 laps, for Moto2: 25 laps, Moto3: 23 laps and ATC: 16 laps

MotoGP : 27 laps (116.1 Km)
Moto2 : 25 laps (107.5 km)
Moto3 : 23 laps (98.9 km)

^{Source: motorsport & gpcornercom}

When I saw the number of laps, it immediately occurred to me that the area of the Mandalikan circuit is not too big, it looks like the Qatar Circuit because from several races I have seen, the smaller the size of the circuit, the more laps there will be, and vice versa. Is that true ?

[Koal-84]

It is planned that the Mandalika MotoGP Race will be held for 27 laps, for Moto2: 25 laps, Moto3: 23 laps and ATC: 16 laps

MotoGP : 27 laps (116.1 Km)
Moto2 : 25 laps (107.5 km)
Moto3 : 23 laps (98.9 km)

^{Source: motorsport & gpcornercom}

When I saw the number of laps, it immediately occurred to me that the area of the Mandalikan circuit is not too big, it looks like the Qatar Circuit because from several races I have seen, the smaller the size of the circuit, the more laps there will be, and vice versa. Is that true ?

At the Mandalika MotoGP Grand Prix, I'm more curious to see if the officials have managed to get the circuit in optimal condition to ensure the safety of the riders. The layout of the Grand Prix doesn't look so fast, so the Yamaha riders might not have such a big disadvantage, but I don't think they can fight for the victory.

Layout of the Mandalika Grand Prix.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandalika_International_Street_Circuit

[Davian144]

At the Mandalika MotoGP Grand Prix, I'm more curious to see if the officials have managed to get the circuit in optimal condition to ensure the safety of the riders. The layout of the Grand Prix doesn't look so fast, so the Yamaha riders might not have such a big disadvantage, but I don't think they can fight for the victory.

I also see that for Yamaha, but if the Yamaha factory riders can continue to put pressure on their opponents during the Race, then victory is still very possible to achieve even though it is not an easy thing for Yamaha, let alone having to devour 27 Laps during the Race. Which is very demanding of the racers in terms of maintaining their tires very well.

[Koal-84]

At the Mandalika MotoGP Grand Prix, I'm more curious to see if the officials have managed to get the circuit in optimal condition to ensure the safety of the riders. The layout of the Grand Prix doesn't look so fast, so the Yamaha riders might not have such a big disadvantage, but I don't think they can fight for the victory.

I also see that for Yamaha, but if the Yamaha factory riders can continue to put pressure on their opponents during the Race, then victory is still very possible to achieve even though it is not an easy thing for Yamaha, let alone having to devour 27 Laps during the Race. Which is very demanding of the racers in terms of maintaining their tires very well.

I don't see the chances for Yamaha like that, but there are only a few days left until the Grand Prix, on Saturday after the qualifying we will already know more if the Yamaha riders have a chance on the podium, last year Yamaha also had problems with the tyres for a long time. It will take a bit of luck to choose the right tyres for the many laps including corners. At Mandalika it could easily be that the Suzuki riders could be the secret favourites.

[Cnut237]

I already wanted to check weather forecast for upcoming race, but forgot that we're in Bahrain . Anyway, seems that it won't be that hot, 24-26°C during Saturday and Sunday. So, maybe teams won't have problems with overheating brakes.

I imagine teams will have all sorts of problems, as these are brand new car designs that haven't been properly tested in a full-speed race situation yet. I'm expecting a few retirements, as there are a few teams who have had reliability issues in the pre-season. We've still yet to see really whether the closer racing is possible or how much of an issue tyre deg will be, too.

But the new season is nearly here now... can't wait!

[Davian144]

I don't see the chances for Yamaha like that, but there are only a few days left until the Grand Prix, on Saturday after the qualifying we will already know more if the Yamaha riders have a chance on the podium, last year Yamaha also had problems with the tyres for a long time. It will take a bit of luck to choose the right tyres for the many laps including corners. At Mandalika it could easily be that the Suzuki riders could be the secret favourites.

The engine character between Suzuki and Yamaha is not much different and last year only Fabio Quartararo was able to keep the tires very well so he could win several races, but for Mandalika there is no record of any races (especially MotoGP) except SuperBike.
So if Suzuki can steal the show in secret, then I'm also sure that Yamaha can do it well too.

[AakZaki]

At the Mandalika MotoGP Grand Prix, I'm more curious to see if the officials have managed to get the circuit in optimal condition to ensure the safety of the riders. The layout of the Grand Prix doesn't look so fast, so the Yamaha riders might not have such a big disadvantage, but I don't think they can fight for the victory.

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My favourite remains on Ducati, Honda or KTM. I'm not too sure about the condition of Yamaha if you look at the qatar series. Indeed the character of the circuit is different but the dominance of motor power will be very profitable here.
Regarding the preparation of asphalt coating, it seems to have been done. That's faster than the target. I don't think any drivers are complaining. The guided stands are also seen finished installation.
Here is one of the appearances of asphalt coating results. 



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[Koal-84]

I don't see the chances for Yamaha like that, but there are only a few days left until the Grand Prix, on Saturday after the qualifying we will already know more if the Yamaha riders have a chance on the podium, last year Yamaha also had problems with the tyres for a long time. It will take a bit of luck to choose the right tyres for the many laps including corners. At Mandalika it could easily be that the Suzuki riders could be the secret favourites.

The engine character between Suzuki and Yamaha is not much different and last year only Fabio Quartararo was able to keep the tires very well so he could win several races, but for Mandalika there is no record of any races (especially MotoGP) except SuperBike.
So if Suzuki can steal the show in secret, then I'm also sure that Yamaha can do it well too.

Everything will come up, but unlike Yamaha, Suzuki has made a step forward with the engine. This was best seen at the last Grand Prix, where Suzuki was able to overtake a Honda from the slipstream on the straight, which would have been almost impossible last year, and almost impossible for Yamaha this year. Suzuki has improved the power of its engines and found something in contrast to Yamaha.

[tokeweed]

looking to bet it on the season opener.  I think it's one of the Ferraris who wins the race.  LecLerc at 6, Sainz at 9.  Hmmm.. I think Carlos Sainz gets it.  What do you guys think?

If I had to put a bet on right now, then I'd go with a Ferrari, yes, or maybe Max depending on what the odds are.
But I'm not willing to bet at the moment, as I just don't think we'll have anything like a clear picture until after qualifying. This season is the start of a new era, and there are too many unknowns.
I'd go Ferrari if I had to, but that's largely guessing.

Decent odds for Max Verstappen actually.  He's is at 3.00 the last time I looked with Hamilton around 3.45.  And yeah that's the thing, we're all guessing here...  Even the sports betting sites are guessing here.    It's why I think some value could be had before qualifying.  And the sportsbetting sites could also be slow in adjusting the lines for the next couple of races if either of the Ferraris win at Bahrain.

[tygeade]

I already wanted to check weather forecast for upcoming race, but forgot that we're in Bahrain . Anyway, seems that it won't be that hot, 24-26°C during Saturday and Sunday. So, maybe teams won't have problems with overheating brakes.

I imagine teams will have all sorts of problems, as these are brand new car designs that haven't been properly tested in a full-speed race situation yet. I'm expecting a few retirements, as there are a few teams who have had reliability issues in the pre-season. We've still yet to see really whether the closer racing is possible or how much of an issue tyre deg will be, too.

But the new season is nearly here now... can't wait!

They do testing in the factories as well and even though it has been said that it is illegal to do more than a certain hour, I guarantee you that Toto and Horner probably have those cars replica versions at their home with an inbuilt testing lol.

I mean it is clear to me that we are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars worth teams and there must be some rules broken and testing seems to be one of the main ones. They have proposing problem right now and that requires insane amount of testing to figure out the best possible method and in order to find that, you gotta do a lot of testing. Could be done in a week if they do it illegally and not follow the hours rule.