[OLD THREAD] Silk Network: Silk, DarkSilk and Weaver

[traK4Ubitl]

I'm not assuming anything.  My opinions have been made by literal statements most entirely from Spencer that don't add up.  You're just the icing on the cake talking circles to bury anything 'undesirable'. Do I seriously have to start quoting more posts? This is the info you guys have given me that continue to enrage and infuriate Mr based on the length conversations I had with arteleis you guys are now calling a liar.  
   Yes.  It is bipolar in here.

Im burying undesirables because they don't hold up. Instead of comprehending the statements you take things out of context and twist words to suit your agende. Again you keep aiming at Spencer blindly as if he has all the answers. Again if you would go in length with me you would notice that everything you talked about with Arteleis is still here. But you shy away every time and keep getting at the developer...

You claim to be here for Silkcoin holders, then we should be on mutual grounds. That has always been my main concern, but alas you stand alone...

To my horror I read that Silkcoin. Is no longer being actively developed and will eventually be silk..  which it is currently by ticker. SILK! The only difference is..  is that some corporation claims the rights to kill the coin and the chain.  I'm not seeing that anywhere and this team is not provided proof of it.  I was initially pissed off that my coins would be forced off poloniex to an unknown exchange called the Weaver. That I would be FORCED to trust..  so believe me.. I will be asking as many questions as I want to.. and will not take circle talk as answers.

Edit: mark take your silk(coin?) Goggles off and reread my posts..  and see if I am the one twisting things here..

[SLievensDRKSLK]

So Trak, if Arteleis is the one who pissed in your Cheerios, wouldn't he be the one you'd want to go after???  That being said, that is setting all other things aside in this forum...

Sounds like he was the main one that influenced you from what you posted and you made a choice base on conversations with him.

Did you talk to anyone else in the development team?  Or did you just dive right in...  Maybe you should have chatted with the whole team?

Sounds to me like Aterleis told you things that weren't totally on the marker?

Nope arteleis was the developer who appears to have been railroaded by this team.  And yes he is the reason I am here. And why I get more and more pissed off Everytime I read more lies.  But your right.  Arteleis maybe was a liar too.  Which makes things worse.  

 Spencer did arteleis not pay you a shitload of money to develop Silkcoin? Why are you here and why is he not? Doesn't make sense like I said to shut down the thread because of me.. he seemed a troll killer and I admired him.. this is far beyond money now though.  Entirely principle and good old eye for an eye Christian values.

Your quote of mine shows that I said we have access to SilkCoinTemple, maybe not directly but through PalmD, Bishop or Arteleis.

Arteleis donated a living amount of btc per week for 6 months from April last year to me weekly/biweekly. I am here because I believed that the community deserved an honest developer and team that I could bring to the table. He has vanished after his last post on the old thread and no-one I know has heard from him since, also no-one has the faintest idea why he has disappeared.

Also, for the record, Arteleis is not a developer.

It may appear I am sometimes talking in circles, reiterating the same thing in a different way, but this is simply because we don't want to let every idea out and give up the game.

Arteleis was not a developer? Fuck man.. go back to the thread when silk died and he saved it.. get your head out of your ass.. not only did he save this coin.. he paid you a shitload of money to develop it..  which you now say is dead and you never received a dime..  you gave no idea who I am and how many conversations I've had with him! Stop lying bro!

I am not lying. He isn't a developer, otherwise he would of done it himself, surely? He has paid me a few thousand dollars for 6 months and now after about 9/10 months since I last got payment I am still working on it. I also didn't say I never received a dime or said it was dead. You are right I have no idea who you are as you won't talk to me directly or act publicly. I have multiple witnesses who were around when me and Arteleis spoke and are fully aware of the agreement I had with him, which was to resurrect Silkcoin with a new coin and swap out. But I wanted to take it further with a platform as well. Then it was decided to keep Silkcoin and launch Silk and have a second coin DarkSilk as well. I haven't lied once throughout my time developing, I may of giving some timeframes that were off, but that is all.

[SLievensDRKSLK]

I'm not assuming anything.  My opinions have been made by literal statements most entirely from Spencer that don't add up.  You're just the icing on the cake talking circles to bury anything 'undesirable'. Do I seriously have to start quoting more posts? This is the info you guys have given me that continue to enrage and infuriate Mr based on the length conversations I had with arteleis you guys are now calling a liar.  
   Yes.  It is bipolar in here.

Im burying undesirables because they don't hold up. Instead of comprehending the statements you take things out of context and twist words to suit your agende. Again you keep aiming at Spencer blindly as if he has all the answers. Again if you would go in length with me you would notice that everything you talked about with Arteleis is still here. But you shy away every time and keep getting at the developer...

You claim to be here for Silkcoin holders, then we should be on mutual grounds. That has always been my main concern, but alas you stand alone...

To my horror I read that Silkcoin. Is no longer being actively developed and will eventually be silk..  which it is currently by ticker. SILK! The only difference is..  is that some corporation claims the rights to kill the coin and the chain.  I'm not seeing that anywhere and this team is not provided proof of it.  I was initially pissed off that my coins would be forced off poloniex to an unknown exchange called the Weaver. That I would be FORCED to trust..  so believe me.. I will be asking as many questions as I want to.. and will not take circle talk as answers.

We decided to kill the coin and chain as a community and development team long before we formed Silk Network Ltd on the 21st of December 2015.

Also, your coins won't be "forced" off Poloniex, you have to move them yourself, you have control of them.

[traK4Ubitl]

So Trak, if Arteleis is the one who pissed in your Cheerios, wouldn't he be the one you'd want to go after???  That being said, that is setting all other things aside in this forum...

Sounds like he was the main one that influenced you from what you posted and you made a choice base on conversations with him.

Did you talk to anyone else in the development team?  Or did you just dive right in...  Maybe you should have chatted with the whole team?

Sounds to me like Aterleis told you things that weren't totally on the marker?

Nope arteleis was the developer who appears to have been railroaded by this team.  And yes he is the reason I am here. And why I get more and more pissed off Everytime I read more lies.  But your right.  Arteleis maybe was a liar too.  Which makes things worse.  

 Spencer did arteleis not pay you a shitload of money to develop Silkcoin? Why are you here and why is he not? Doesn't make sense like I said to shut down the thread because of me.. he seemed a troll killer and I admired him.. this is far beyond money now though.  Entirely principle and good old eye for an eye Christian values.

Your quote of mine shows that I said we have access to SilkCoinTemple, maybe not directly but through PalmD, Bishop or Arteleis.

Arteleis donated a living amount of btc per week for 6 months from April last year to me weekly/biweekly. I am here because I believed that the community deserved an honest developer and team that I could bring to the table. He has vanished after his last post on the old thread and no-one I know has heard from him since, also no-one has the faintest idea why he has disappeared.

Also, for the record, Arteleis is not a developer.

It may appear I am sometimes talking in circles, reiterating the same thing in a different way, but this is simply because we don't want to let every idea out and give up the game.

Arteleis was not a developer? Fuck man.. go back to the thread when silk died and he saved it.. get your head out of your ass.. not only did he save this coin.. he paid you a shitload of money to develop it..  which you now say is dead and you never received a dime..  you gave no idea who I am and how many conversations I've had with him! Stop lying bro!

I am not lying. He isn't a developer, otherwise he would of done it himself, surely? He has paid me a few thousand dollars for 6 months and now after about 9/10 months since I last got payment I am still working on it. I also didn't say I never received a dime or said it was dead. You are right I have no idea who you are as you won't talk to me directly or act publicly. I have multiple witnesses who were around when me and Arteleis spoke and are fully aware of the agreement I had with him, which was to resurrect Silkcoin with a new coin and swap out. But I wanted to take it further with a platform as well. Then it was decided to keep Silkcoin and launch Silk and have a second coin DarkSilk as well. I haven't lied once throughout my time developing, I may of giving some timeframes that were off, but that is all.

A few thousand dollars eh? Only ten times off what he told me bro.. stop lying... I really hope he responds to my messaged eventually..  as currently you're calling the developer of silkcoin a liar.  As you've stated clearly.  You are not the developer of silkcoin and it it is entirely up for grabs. Res nullius

[SLievensDRKSLK]

So Trak, if Arteleis is the one who pissed in your Cheerios, wouldn't he be the one you'd want to go after???  That being said, that is setting all other things aside in this forum...

Sounds like he was the main one that influenced you from what you posted and you made a choice base on conversations with him.

Did you talk to anyone else in the development team?  Or did you just dive right in...  Maybe you should have chatted with the whole team?

Sounds to me like Aterleis told you things that weren't totally on the marker?

Nope arteleis was the developer who appears to have been railroaded by this team.  And yes he is the reason I am here. And why I get more and more pissed off Everytime I read more lies.  But your right.  Arteleis maybe was a liar too.  Which makes things worse.  

 Spencer did arteleis not pay you a shitload of money to develop Silkcoin? Why are you here and why is he not? Doesn't make sense like I said to shut down the thread because of me.. he seemed a troll killer and I admired him.. this is far beyond money now though.  Entirely principle and good old eye for an eye Christian values.

Your quote of mine shows that I said we have access to SilkCoinTemple, maybe not directly but through PalmD, Bishop or Arteleis.

Arteleis donated a living amount of btc per week for 6 months from April last year to me weekly/biweekly. I am here because I believed that the community deserved an honest developer and team that I could bring to the table. He has vanished after his last post on the old thread and no-one I know has heard from him since, also no-one has the faintest idea why he has disappeared.

Also, for the record, Arteleis is not a developer.

It may appear I am sometimes talking in circles, reiterating the same thing in a different way, but this is simply because we don't want to let every idea out and give up the game.

Arteleis was not a developer? Fuck man.. go back to the thread when silk died and he saved it.. get your head out of your ass.. not only did he save this coin.. he paid you a shitload of money to develop it..  which you now say is dead and you never received a dime..  you gave no idea who I am and how many conversations I've had with him! Stop lying bro!

I am not lying. He isn't a developer, otherwise he would of done it himself, surely? He has paid me a few thousand dollars for 6 months and now after about 9/10 months since I last got payment I am still working on it. I also didn't say I never received a dime or said it was dead. You are right I have no idea who you are as you won't talk to me directly or act publicly. I have multiple witnesses who were around when me and Arteleis spoke and are fully aware of the agreement I had with him, which was to resurrect Silkcoin with a new coin and swap out. But I wanted to take it further with a platform as well. Then it was decided to keep Silkcoin and launch Silk and have a second coin DarkSilk as well. I haven't lied once throughout my time developing, I may of giving some timeframes that were off, but that is all.

A few thousand dollars eh? Only ten times off what he told me bro.. stop lying... I really hope he responds to my messaged eventually..  as currently you're calling the developer of silkcoin a liar.  As you've stated clearly.  You are not the developer of silkcoin and it it is entirely up for grabs. Res nullius

I wish I had been paid that amount, I also hope he replies, However there is an active user in the thread that will reply when reading this as he was about when Arteleis made the deal with me, when he was paying me and was actively talking to Arteleis throughout that time. So I will be interested to see what both have to say about your claims. For the record I have had Arteleis donate me around $200 per week for a 6 month period which equates to around $4800. There may of been a few times he sent me BTC as I had no money after paying rent so I could eat, but trust me, I am not lying.

[traK4Ubitl]

I'm not assuming anything.  My opinions have been made by literal statements most entirely from Spencer that don't add up.  You're just the icing on the cake talking circles to bury anything 'undesirable'. Do I seriously have to start quoting more posts? This is the info you guys have given me that continue to enrage and infuriate Mr based on the length conversations I had with arteleis you guys are now calling a liar.  
   Yes.  It is bipolar in here.

Im burying undesirables because they don't hold up. Instead of comprehending the statements you take things out of context and twist words to suit your agende. Again you keep aiming at Spencer blindly as if he has all the answers. Again if you would go in length with me you would notice that everything you talked about with Arteleis is still here. But you shy away every time and keep getting at the developer...

You claim to be here for Silkcoin holders, then we should be on mutual grounds. That has always been my main concern, but alas you stand alone...

To my horror I read that Silkcoin. Is no longer being actively developed and will eventually be silk..  which it is currently by ticker. SILK! The only difference is..  is that some corporation claims the rights to kill the coin and the chain.  I'm not seeing that anywhere and this team is not provided proof of it.  I was initially pissed off that my coins would be forced off poloniex to an unknown exchange called the Weaver. That I would be FORCED to trust..  so believe me.. I will be asking as many questions as I want to.. and will not take circle talk as answers.

We decided to kill the coin and chain as a community and development team long before we formed Silk Network Ltd on the 21st of December 2015.

Also, your coins won't be "forced" off Poloniex, you have to move them yourself, you have control of them.

Hmm 'we' decided to kill the coin eh? Thats what you were paid for? Why would someone pay you 30 grand to kill the coin.. as a community? First I read of it was recently.. aka shocked and appalled.

  No my coins won't be forced off.. the only market for Silkcoin will be shut down.. unless I go to the Weaver aka your corporation.  Define.  Forced.

[traK4Ubitl]

So Trak, if Arteleis is the one who pissed in your Cheerios, wouldn't he be the one you'd want to go after???  That being said, that is setting all other things aside in this forum...

Sounds like he was the main one that influenced you from what you posted and you made a choice base on conversations with him.

Did you talk to anyone else in the development team?  Or did you just dive right in...  Maybe you should have chatted with the whole team?

Sounds to me like Aterleis told you things that weren't totally on the marker?

Nope arteleis was the developer who appears to have been railroaded by this team.  And yes he is the reason I am here. And why I get more and more pissed off Everytime I read more lies.  But your right.  Arteleis maybe was a liar too.  Which makes things worse.  

 Spencer did arteleis not pay you a shitload of money to develop Silkcoin? Why are you here and why is he not? Doesn't make sense like I said to shut down the thread because of me.. he seemed a troll killer and I admired him.. this is far beyond money now though.  Entirely principle and good old eye for an eye Christian values.

Your quote of mine shows that I said we have access to SilkCoinTemple, maybe not directly but through PalmD, Bishop or Arteleis.

Arteleis donated a living amount of btc per week for 6 months from April last year to me weekly/biweekly. I am here because I believed that the community deserved an honest developer and team that I could bring to the table. He has vanished after his last post on the old thread and no-one I know has heard from him since, also no-one has the faintest idea why he has disappeared.

Also, for the record, Arteleis is not a developer.

It may appear I am sometimes talking in circles, reiterating the same thing in a different way, but this is simply because we don't want to let every idea out and give up the game.

Arteleis was not a developer? Fuck man.. go back to the thread when silk died and he saved it.. get your head out of your ass.. not only did he save this coin.. he paid you a shitload of money to develop it..  which you now say is dead and you never received a dime..  you gave no idea who I am and how many conversations I've had with him! Stop lying bro!

I am not lying. He isn't a developer, otherwise he would of done it himself, surely? He has paid me a few thousand dollars for 6 months and now after about 9/10 months since I last got payment I am still working on it. I also didn't say I never received a dime or said it was dead. You are right I have no idea who you are as you won't talk to me directly or act publicly. I have multiple witnesses who were around when me and Arteleis spoke and are fully aware of the agreement I had with him, which was to resurrect Silkcoin with a new coin and swap out. But I wanted to take it further with a platform as well. Then it was decided to keep Silkcoin and launch Silk and have a second coin DarkSilk as well. I haven't lied once throughout my time developing, I may of giving some timeframes that were off, but that is all.

A few thousand dollars eh? Only ten times off what he told me bro.. stop lying... I really hope he responds to my messaged eventually..  as currently you're calling the developer of silkcoin a liar.  As you've stated clearly.  You are not the developer of silkcoin and it it is entirely up for grabs. Res nullius

I wish I had been paid that amount, I also hope he replies, However there is an active user in the thread that will reply when reading this as he was about when Arteleis made the deal with me, when he was paying me and was actively talking to Arteleis throughout that time. So I will be interested to see what both have to say about your claims. For the record I have had Arteleis donate me around $200 per week for a 6 month period which equates to around $4800. There may of been a few times he sent me BTC as I had no money after paying rent so I could eat, but trust me, I am not lying.

Stop lying.

[SLievensDRKSLK]

$30,000 lolololol, your fucking mental.

Or have been badly misinformed.

Or you haven't listened correctly.

Hahahahahahahhahahaha

$30,000

Fuck man.

[SLievensDRKSLK]

There were periods I wasn't eating and I am currently over £2000 in rent arrears.

So fuck you. Fuck you very much.

[SLievensDRKSLK]

Arteleis was the community leader and a bloody good one at that.

[traK4Ubitl_boyfriend]

No Spencer!  Track balls is a famous programmer and has run many projects much bigger than this one.  He is the best so should run silk much better than you.  Track already invested over $50,000 on this coin directly to you, no lie this time.  That is why he is so mad.

[traK4Ubitl]

$30,000 lolololol, your fucking mental.

Or have been badly misinformed.

Or you haven't listened correctly.

Hahahahahahahhahahaha

$30,000

Fuck man.

Right.  Arteleis is a. Liar and you're the man.  Good work on Passing the block explorer off to someone else who literally didn't get paid.

[traK4Ubitl]

No Spencer!  Track balls is a famous programmer and has run many projects much bigger than this one.  He is the best so should run silk much better than you.  Track already invested over $50,000 on this coin directly to you, no lie this time.  That is why he is so mad.

Thanks honey.  You tell him.

[traK4Ubitl]

Arteleis was the community leader and a bloody good one at that.

100% agree.  But also the guy that developed and coughed up all the money.. which guys like you ate and produced shit.

[SLievensDRKSLK]

$30,000 lolololol, your fucking mental.

Or have been badly misinformed.

Or you haven't listened correctly.

Hahahahahahahhahahaha

$30,000

Fuck man.

Right.  Arteleis is a. Liar and you're the man.  Good work on Passing the block explorer off to someone else who literally didn't get paid.

I'm a little confused by this post. But do you mean me asking Matthew Langdon to get the block explorer up and running?

[traK4Ubitl]

There were periods I wasn't eating and I am currently over £2000 in rent arrears.

So fuck you. Fuck you very much.

Then get a job like the rest of the world and stop receiving whatever welfare you mentioned for whatever mental condition you didn't..

[nzminer]

So Trak, if Arteleis is the one who pissed in your Cheerios, wouldn't he be the one you'd want to go after???  That being said, that is setting all other things aside in this forum...

Sounds like he was the main one that influenced you from what you posted and you made a choice base on conversations with him.

Did you talk to anyone else in the development team?  Or did you just dive right in...  Maybe you should have chatted with the whole team?

Sounds to me like Aterleis told you things that weren't totally on the marker?

Nope arteleis was the developer who appears to have been railroaded by this team.  And yes he is the reason I am here. And why I get more and more pissed off Everytime I read more lies.  But your right.  Arteleis maybe was a liar too.  Which makes things worse.  

 Spencer did arteleis not pay you a shitload of money to develop Silkcoin? Why are you here and why is he not? Doesn't make sense like I said to shut down the thread because of me.. he seemed a troll killer and I admired him.. this is far beyond money now though.  Entirely principle and good old eye for an eye Christian values.

Your quote of mine shows that I said we have access to SilkCoinTemple, maybe not directly but through PalmD, Bishop or Arteleis.

Arteleis donated a living amount of btc per week for 6 months from April last year to me weekly/biweekly. I am here because I believed that the community deserved an honest developer and team that I could bring to the table. He has vanished after his last post on the old thread and no-one I know has heard from him since, also no-one has the faintest idea why he has disappeared.

Also, for the record, Arteleis is not a developer.

It may appear I am sometimes talking in circles, reiterating the same thing in a different way, but this is simply because we don't want to let every idea out and give up the game.

Arteleis was not a developer? Fuck man.. go back to the thread when silk died and he saved it.. get your head out of your ass.. not only did he save this coin.. he paid you a shitload of money to develop it..  which you now say is dead and you never received a dime..  you gave no idea who I am and how many conversations I've had with him! Stop lying bro!

I am not lying. He isn't a developer, otherwise he would of done it himself, surely? He has paid me a few thousand dollars for 6 months and now after about 9/10 months since I last got payment I am still working on it. I also didn't say I never received a dime or said it was dead. You are right I have no idea who you are as you won't talk to me directly or act publicly. I have multiple witnesses who were around when me and Arteleis spoke and are fully aware of the agreement I had with him, which was to resurrect Silkcoin with a new coin and swap out. But I wanted to take it further with a platform as well. Then it was decided to keep Silkcoin and launch Silk and have a second coin DarkSilk as well. I haven't lied once throughout my time developing, I may of giving some timeframes that were off, but that is all.

A few thousand dollars eh? Only ten times off what he told me bro.. stop lying... I really hope he responds to my messaged eventually..  as currently you're calling the developer of silkcoin a liar.  As you've stated clearly.  You are not the developer of silkcoin and it it is entirely up for grabs. Res nullius

I wish I had been paid that amount, I also hope he replies, However there is an active user in the thread that will reply when reading this as he was about when Arteleis made the deal with me, when he was paying me and was actively talking to Arteleis throughout that time. So I will be interested to see what both have to say about your claims. For the record I have had Arteleis donate me around $200 per week for a 6 month period which equates to around $4800. There may of been a few times he sent me BTC as I had no money after paying rent so I could eat, but trust me, I am not lying.

Stop lying.

Arteleis was NOT a dev and never professed to! He only ever said that he was learning.
He put alot of his time and money in to this to find devs and get volunteers to work on this coin, he in fact did pay devs himself to get this up and running again.

He was in good contact with me for some time and I worked with him and a couple of new devs to get this wallet back up and working. I did all the graphic design and designed new logos etc.

[SLievensDRKSLK]

Arteleis was the community leader and a bloody good one at that.

100% agree.  But also the guy that developed and coughed up all the money.. which guys like you ate and produced shit.

We haven't released. The new Silk and DarkSilk wallets will be far from shit and Weaver will be a secure and trusted platform.

The original developer of Silkcoin, as far as I know screwed the community and then Arteleis showed up and took over.

[traK4Ubitl]

$30,000 lolololol, your fucking mental.

Or have been badly misinformed.

Or you haven't listened correctly.

Hahahahahahahhahahaha

$30,000

Fuck man.

Right.  Arteleis is a. Liar and you're the man.  Good work on Passing the block explorer off to someone else who literally didn't get paid.

I'm a little confused by this post. But do you mean me asking Matthew Langdon to get the block explorer up and running?

Yeh.  I could believe that synn actually didn't get paid for any lf the work you passed off to him.. while getting paid to do work you didn't complete.  Anyways.. I'm sick of this circle jerk.  Stop talking to me and maybe I'll go away.  Here's and idea.  Develop something.

[SLievensDRKSLK]

$30,000 lolololol, your fucking mental.

Or have been badly misinformed.

Or you haven't listened correctly.

Hahahahahahahhahahaha

$30,000

Fuck man.

Right.  Arteleis is a. Liar and you're the man.  Good work on Passing the block explorer off to someone else who literally didn't get paid.

I'm a little confused by this post. But do you mean me asking Matthew Langdon to get the block explorer up and running?

Yeh.  I could believe that synn actually didn't get paid for any lf the work you passed off to him.. while getting paid to do work you didn't complete.  Anyways.. I'm sick of this circle jerk.  Stop talking to me and maybe I'll go away.  Here's and idea.  Develop something.

I have paid Synnn, who is actually like a brother to me and we have worked together for 3 years now. He has been paid for work as well. I also split some payments to him from Arteleis as well. Development hasn't ceased. I think what you meant to say is, release something.

When it is ready, we will.