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[suchmoon]

wtf happened!  I bought ton of ION, went to sleep so happy! wake up with half my fortune!!! OMG!!!!

Why?

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[TraderCal11]

I contacted the devs about this but they told me that they have told Yobit staff to update their wallet repeatedly and they refused.

[o0o0]

wtf happened!  I bought ton of ION, went to sleep so happy! wake up with half my fortune!!! OMG!!!!

it was clearly a pump group. this topic had that stated earlier. read topics before deciding ratherthan buying then going to a topic to whinge.

did you seriously think it was free money?

[suchmoon]

wtf happened!  I bought ton of ION, went to sleep so happy! wake up with half my fortune!!! OMG!!!!

it was clearly a pump group. this topic had that stated earlier. read topics before deciding ratherthan buying then going to a topic to whinge.

did you seriously think it was free money?

It's on Twitter so it must be true!!

https://twitter.com/robin_f_hill?lang=en


Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image

LOL... It's like a time machine. 2014 all over again. Prime Controllers are the bestest coin-shitting controllers ever.

[CryptoBuds]

wtf happened!  I bought ton of ION, went to sleep so happy! wake up with half my fortune!!! OMG!!!!

it was clearly a pump group. this topic had that stated earlier. read topics before deciding ratherthan buying then going to a topic to whinge.

did you seriously think it was free money?

It's on Twitter so it must be true!!

https://twitter.com/robin_f_hill?lang=en



LOL... It's like a time machine. 2014 all over again. Prime Controllers are the bestest coin-shitting controllers ever.

That robin chick is advertising $1700 monthly profits. What she is telling us is that the market will absorb daily masternode dumps without lowering the price. It's nice to see they're all deluded rather equally. She's almost a bigger shill than MrCoins himself. Husband and wife perhaps?

I also find it funny that she thinks a person bought $500,000 dollars worth of ION because of its own merit, even Gravity perhaps? Again deluded. Didn't realize the pumpers picked a coin they could easily control and exploit a pump on. Not a single Ionite could take advantage of that recent surge, so why are they gushing over it? I guess I just don't understand.

[suchmoon]

That robin chick is advertising $1700 monthly profits. What she is telling us is that the market will absorb daily masternode dumps without lowering the price. It's nice to see they're all deluded rather equally. She's almost a bigger shill than MrCoins himself. Husband and wife perhaps?

I also find it funny that she thinks a person bought $500,000 dollars worth of ION because of its own merit, even Gravity perhaps? Again deluded. Didn't realize the pumpers picked a coin they could easily control and exploit a pump on. Not a single Ionite could take advantage of that recent surge, so why are they gushing over it? I guess I just don't understand.

I think "Robin" is the one on the right, although him being MrCoins' wife would explain a lot. A brief interaction on slack today displayed r0b1nuk's complete detachment from reality that would be a perfect fit for an "SEC approved" household.

And what's with the penchant for pictures of fancy cars among paycoiners...

https://www.bitrated.com/r0b1nuk

[korvas128]

wtf happened!  I bought ton of ION, went to sleep so happy! wake up with half my fortune!!! OMG!!!!

it was clearly a pump group. this topic had that stated earlier. read topics before deciding ratherthan buying then going to a topic to whinge.

did you seriously think it was free money?

It's on Twitter so it must be true!!

https://twitter.com/robin_f_hill?lang=en



LOL... It's like a time machine. 2014 all over again. Prime Controllers are the bestest coin-shitting controllers ever.

Nothing like prime controllers. Prime controllers do nothing but generate coin just like any POW miner

Masternodes though form an integral part of the ION Network, nodes generate coin but also do a job

Read the whitepaper  https://github.com/ionomy/ion/wiki/ION-Technical-Whitepaper#masternodes

Apart from the masternodes section I also suggest you read the part titled Proof of work vs Static proof of stake

[CryptoBuds]

The only problem with reading the white paper is deciding what to believe. For example, there should be 13-14 games released by now, but there isn't. See, it's tough to decipher what is to be considered valid or not in the white paper.

Maybe a little consistency? If we are gonna reference the white paper, we need to assume that everything is either 100% valid or 100% false.

[korvas128]

The only problem with reading the white paper is deciding what to believe. For example, there should be 13-14 games released by now, but there isn't. See, it's tough to decipher what is to be considered valid or not in the white paper.

Maybe a little consistency? If we are gonna reference the white paper, we need to assume that everything is either 100% valid or 100% false.

Who is we ? and why would a games list be part of a whitepaper titled  ION Technical Whitepaper The white paper is 100% accurate. if it's not then let me know where ?

You know the decision taken months ago about game development 

[suchmoon]

Nothing like prime controllers. Prime controllers do nothing but generate coin just like any POW miner

Masternodes though form an integral part of the ION Network, nodes generate coin but also do a job

Read the whitepaper  https://github.com/ionomy/ion/wiki/ION-Technical-Whitepaper#masternodes

Apart from the masternodes section I also suggest you read the part titled Proof of work vs Static proof of stake

I think we are reasonably aware that the "team" happened to clone masternode tech from dash/tx... doesn't change the fact that y'all whales are shilling it solely as some sort of "income".

Funny part about instant tx and darksend is that the "team" also heavily promotes centralization. All these forks don't help either and who knows what they will "rebase" it to next year. The previous clone was also supposed to be the best clone with the best masternodes, see how that turned out

But thanks for the laugh, we missed you korvas.

[korvas128]

Nothing like prime controllers. Prime controllers do nothing but generate coin just like any POW miner

Masternodes though form an integral part of the ION Network, nodes generate coin but also do a job

Read the whitepaper  https://github.com/ionomy/ion/wiki/ION-Technical-Whitepaper#masternodes

Apart from the masternodes section I also suggest you read the part titled Proof of work vs Static proof of stake

I think we are reasonably aware that the "team" happened to clone masternode tech from dash/tx... doesn't change the fact that y'all whales are shilling it solely as some sort of "income".

Funny part about instant tx and darksend is that the "team" also heavily promotes centralization. All these forks don't help either and who knows what they will "rebase" it to next year. The previous clone was also supposed to be the best clone with the best masternodes, see how that turned out

But thanks for the laugh, we missed you korvas.

I know you know  I'm just responding to your prime controllers comment.

Where is the heavy promotion in centralisation ? About centralisation ever thought to ask What or why an element exists ?

How many other companies have developed an API that links Google, Apple and of course their own platform together. When i say ION $90 I'm just as serious as when I said $.5 or $1. When you have foundations like this then the sky truly is the limit.

I'm so glad I make you laugh as trolling can be tiring but when you laugh you use less muscles in your face. Making you laugh makes me laugh too so I get a bit of a rest as in the real world I don't do enough of it.

Hope your having a nice weekend
 

[suchmoon]

Where is the heavy promotion in centralisation ? About centralisation ever thought to ask What or why an element exists ?

Really? 

PNGs.
Ionomy shared wallet.
"We're gonna fork so better keep your coins on our website".
Hosted masternodes.
In-game tokens.
The "team" holds ~75% of the total coin supply.

All about centralization and none of these things is positive in any way for the blockchain technology.

[korvas128]

Where is the heavy promotion in centralisation ? About centralisation ever thought to ask What or why an element exists ?

Really? 

PNGs.
Ionomy shared wallet.
"We're gonna fork so better keep your coins on our website".
Hosted masternodes.
In-game tokens.
The "team" holds ~75% of the total coin supply.

All about centralization and none of these things is positive in any way for the blockchain technology.

Have you ever seen this before...

 

Where do you think crypto sits today. I think it's still in the innovators segment so offering stuff like hosted masternode is something that will appeal to the early adopter.

I'll pick out a couple of your points

Hosted masternodes - The best way as you know is to remotely host a masternode then leave it to run 24/7. Not everyone has the technical knowledge or inclination to setup their own remotely hosted masternode. Hosted masternodes is a service that is a take it or leave it option. Do it yourself, use a company or use ionomy. The Crypto user will at some point no longer just be the innovator. One day the early majority will use the blockchain and they probably won't know what it is they'll just benefit from what it does.   

For the fork it was an option to send all your coins to ionomy then the not so technical had the peace of mind in the knowledge that their coins were safe again a take it or leave it option.

Not just technical innovation is needed to bring the blockchain to the masses. 

[suchmoon]

Where is the heavy promotion in centralisation ? About centralisation ever thought to ask What or why an element exists ?

Really?  

PNGs.
Ionomy shared wallet.
"We're gonna fork so better keep your coins on our website".
Hosted masternodes.
In-game tokens.
The "team" holds ~75% of the total coin supply.

All about centralization and none of these things is positive in any way for the blockchain technology.

Have you ever seen this before...

 

Where do you think crypto sits today. I think it's still in the innovators segment so offering stuff like hosted masternode is something that will appeal to the early adopter.

I'll pick out a couple of your points

Hosted masternodes - The best way as you know is to remotely host a masternode then leave it to run 24/7. Not everyone has the technical knowledge or inclination to setup their own remotely hosted masternode. Hosted masternodes is a service that is a take it or leave it option. Do it yourself, use a company or use ionomy. The Crypto user will at some point no longer just be the innovator. One day the early majority will use the blockchain and they probably won't know what it is they'll just benefit from what it does.  

For the fork it was an option to send all your coins to ionomy then the not so technical had the peace of mind in the knowledge that their coins were safe again a take it or leave it option.

Not just technical innovation is needed to bring the blockchain to the masses.  

The point is decentralization, which is the fundamental principle behind crypto/blockchain/etc. Without it you're trusting someone else with your coins. You don't need crypto for that. You might as well go to the bank and give them your money. Or buy penny stocks if being an early adopter in a shady scheme is important to you.

Actually that's unfair to banks - this centralized crypto cancer is far worse since there is no deposit insurance or any other protection AND the risks of hacking or other types of catastrophic loss are much higher. The worst of crypto and the worst of fiat combined.

The real blockchain innovation is moving in the other direction - towards eliminating the remaining centralized "choke points", such as exchanges.

Re hosted masternodes - look at coins that have multisig staking pools. Basically you can benefit from someone's 24/7 service AND you still get to keep full control of your funds. That's a feature ionomy should have cloned instead of their 1990s solution.

[korvas128]

Where is the heavy promotion in centralisation ? About centralisation ever thought to ask What or why an element exists ?

Really?  

PNGs.
Ionomy shared wallet.
"We're gonna fork so better keep your coins on our website".
Hosted masternodes.
In-game tokens.
The "team" holds ~75% of the total coin supply.

All about centralization and none of these things is positive in any way for the blockchain technology.

Have you ever seen this before...

 

Where do you think crypto sits today. I think it's still in the innovators segment so offering stuff like hosted masternode is something that will appeal to the early adopter.

I'll pick out a couple of your points

Hosted masternodes - The best way as you know is to remotely host a masternode then leave it to run 24/7. Not everyone has the technical knowledge or inclination to setup their own remotely hosted masternode. Hosted masternodes is a service that is a take it or leave it option. Do it yourself, use a company or use ionomy. The Crypto user will at some point no longer just be the innovator. One day the early majority will use the blockchain and they probably won't know what it is they'll just benefit from what it does.  

For the fork it was an option to send all your coins to ionomy then the not so technical had the peace of mind in the knowledge that their coins were safe again a take it or leave it option.

Not just technical innovation is needed to bring the blockchain to the masses.  

The point is decentralization, which is the fundamental principle behind crypto/blockchain/etc. Without it you're trusting someone else with your coins. You don't need crypto for that. You might as well go to the bank and give them your money. Or buy penny stocks if being an early adopter in a shady scheme is important to you.

Actually that's unfair to banks - this centralized crypto cancer is far worse since there is no deposit insurance or any other protection AND the risks of hacking or other types of catastrophic loss are much higher. The worst of crypto and the worst of fiat combined.

The real blockchain innovation is moving in the other direction - towards eliminating the remaining centralized "choke points", such as exchanges.

Re hosted masternodes - look at coins that have multisig staking pools. Basically you can benefit from someone's 24/7 service AND you still get to keep full control of your funds. That's a feature ionomy should have cloned instead of their 1990s solution.

Your trying to push me into a corner   why would I or Ionomy be against the crypto cornerstone of decentralisation.

Bitcoin opened Pandora's box. today a multitude of solutions are being developed to deliver true decentralisation across the entire food chain, like you say stuff like the integration of an exchange into a blockchain



If you compare decentralisation to human evolution today it would be the a man carrying a spear  

Like you I too can talk out of my arse and just state the obvious

   penny stocks   all coins once started life as a penny stock

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korvas why have no third party other devs built games for ion in the 1+ years its been going. if its so innovative and game centric particularly mobile games then why else is nobody onboard or advertising their use of it? i know game credirs has some. one can only assume ionomy isnt appealing to devs so therefore not so great?

[suchmoon]

Your trying to push me into a corner   why would I or Ionomy be against the crypto cornerstone of decentralisation.

You painted yourself into that corner. I posted a list of ionomy features that are clearly centralized. They don't seem to be moving at all in a direction that would support and enhance decentralization. You tell me why. I'd guess that's because they lack the competence but feel free to prove otherwise.

You tried to explain the hosted masternode feature as something that would make it easier to use. Yet there are ways to do that without sacrificing decentralization. Why didn't ionomy choose that path?

Bitcoin opened Pandora's box. today a multitude of solutions are being developed to deliver true decentralisation across the entire food chain, like you say stuff like the integration of an exchange into a blockchain

https://i.gyazo.com/282ef1322a78cbd254e9d2d2cc5d7a0c.png

If you compare decentralisation to human evolution today it would be the a man carrying a spear  

Like you I too can talk out of my arse and just state the obvious

   penny stocks   all coins once started life as a penny stock

Again, that's meaningless in ionomy's context, who are deliberately moving in the opposite direction towards the ape who can barely stand up. The game interacts with a centralized website instead of moving electrons and other trinkets on a blockchain or via smart contract or some other similar contraption.

Same can be said about ionomy's other touted features. Could be done properly if ionomy cared for decentralization and had the chops.

[korvas128]

korvas why have no third party other devs built games for ion in the 1+ years its been going. if its so innovative and game centric particularly mobile games then why else is nobody onboard or advertising their use of it? i know game credirs has some. one can only assume ionomy isnt appealing to devs so therefore not so great?

Early days............... this time last year ionomy were working on the gaming API and everyone here was saying how impossible it would be to deliver something to both Apple and Google ecosystems.... they did it

Step 1 make the gaming API available to devs, just cuz they haven't announced anything doesn't mean stuffs not happening !!!

They have ICO money & identifiable revenue streams so they can just focus on delivery/implementation no need to hype. Today hyping would see a spike in the price and it would would telegraph any competitive advantage they have....... doesn't make business sense if you plan to be in business for the longterm

Talking about gamecredits Fragoria anyone played it.....is it any good ?    

[korvas128]

Your trying to push me into a corner   why would I or Ionomy be against the crypto cornerstone of decentralisation.

You painted yourself into that corner. I posted a list of ionomy features that are clearly centralized. They don't seem to be moving at all in a direction that would support and enhance decentralization. You tell me why. I'd guess that's because they lack the competence but feel free to prove otherwise.

You tried to explain the hosted masternode feature as something that would make it easier to use. Yet there are ways to do that without sacrificing decentralization. Why didn't ionomy choose that path?

Bitcoin opened Pandora's box. today a multitude of solutions are being developed to deliver true decentralisation across the entire food chain, like you say stuff like the integration of an exchange into a blockchain

https://i.gyazo.com/282ef1322a78cbd254e9d2d2cc5d7a0c.png

If you compare decentralisation to human evolution today it would be the a man carrying a spear  

Like you I too can talk out of my arse and just state the obvious

   penny stocks   all coins once started life as a penny stock

Again, that's meaningless in ionomy's context, who are deliberately moving in the opposite direction towards the ape who can barely stand up. The game interacts with a centralized website instead of moving electrons and other trinkets on a blockchain or via smart contract or some other similar contraption.

Same can be said about ionomy's other touted features. Could be done properly if ionomy cared for decentralization and had the chops.

Okay let me phrase this another way..... you don't evolve from ape to fat man in one generation and ionomy isn't a charity.

It's a business that is developing and implementing a WIN WIN WIN business model. I along with ionomy are just as pro decentralised as you are but until the tools are in place to facilitate total decentralisation one has to survive whilst building infrastructure. The endgame is total decentralisation.

And about Ionomy hosting a node give me an example of something which is just as easy to setup i.e. a couple of clicks. That's the point of offering the service not to steal or control your coin. You are not the target market for the service, you have the technical capabilities to remotely setup a node and still locally keep control of your coin.

[o0o0]

korvas why have no third party other devs built games for ion in the 1+ years its been going. if its so innovative and game centric particularly mobile games then why else is nobody onboard or advertising their use of it? i know game credirs has some. one can only assume ionomy isnt appealing to devs so therefore not so great?

Early days............... this time last year ionomy were working on the gaming API and everyone here was saying how impossible it would be to deliver something to both Apple and Google ecosystems.... they did it

Step 1 make the gaming API available to devs, just cuz they haven't announced anything doesn't mean stuffs not happening !!!

They have ICO money & identifiable revenue streams so they can just focus on delivery/implementation no need to hype. Today hyping would see a spike in the price and it would would telegraph any competitive advantage they have....... doesn't make business sense if you plan to be in business for the longterm

Talking about gamecredits Fragoria anyone played it.....is it any good ?    

the devs didnt implement crypto into games via api. its spend $ in app store to get lives etc. they take those funds and apply to market.

integrating crypto means taking ion direct ingame. they dont do that. lets at least be honest here. people here said they wouldnt integrate ion into game which they didnt.