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Satoshis aren't dead. You use the USD value cause it make the coin look like it rose in value significantly. If you would show the price in satoshis, you would realize that the value of the coin didn't change since the IOC purchases with BTC. Again, paycoiner logic at its finest. Use whatever data paints the prettiest picture.
I'll roll with USD until you tell me what this Satoshis plot represents. "the value of the coin didn't change ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) lol https://i.gyazo.com/f9b6d4255af0e6ff03b327b039af386f.pngWith out additional info, you can not tell me the price of ION using just this chart... You can roll with whatever you want (I suggest Venezuelan bolívar - instant moon), but it doesn't change the math - if you just held your BTC you would still have your BTC, or the equivalent amount in USD or rubles or bolívares, depending on your "roll". By putting it into ION you ended up with a smaller amount of BTC - possibly a lot smaller if you "rolled" it from XPY - and you have less liquidity, making you shill shamelessly while dumping your IONs. To be fair, nobody expects you to understand or agree with this, so you might as well give it up and enjoy your imaginary riches.
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May 15, 2017, 09:04:02 PM |
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Satoshis aren't dead. You use the USD value cause it make the coin look like it rose in value significantly. If you would show the price in satoshis, you would realize that the value of the coin didn't change since the IOC purchases with BTC. Again, paycoiner logic at its finest. Use whatever data paints the prettiest picture.
I'll roll with USD until you tell me what this Satoshis plot represents. "the value of the coin didn't change ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) lol ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2Ff9b6d4255af0e6ff03b327b039af386f.png&t=663&c=KS5nnDobgunCLA) With out additional info, you can not tell me the price of ION using just this chart... I'm having a hard time " seeking that the value of the coin didn't change since the IOC" in the illustration ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Wrong, you stated "you cannot tell me the price of ION just using this chart..." and I told you. That chart was nothing about the point your brought up. What you just did here was your definition of a troll. Contradict much?
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May 15, 2017, 09:28:54 PM |
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Satoshis aren't dead. You use the USD value cause it make the coin look like it rose in value significantly. If you would show the price in satoshis, you would realize that the value of the coin didn't change since the IOC purchases with BTC. Again, paycoiner logic at its finest. Use whatever data paints the prettiest picture.
I'll roll with USD until you tell me what this Satoshis plot represents. "the value of the coin didn't change ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) lol https://i.gyazo.com/f9b6d4255af0e6ff03b327b039af386f.pngWith out additional info, you can not tell me the price of ION using just this chart... You can roll with whatever you want (I suggest Venezuelan bolívar - instant moon), but it doesn't change the math - if you just held your BTC you would still have your BTC, or the equivalent amount in USD or rubles or bolívares, depending on your "roll". By putting it into ION you ended up with a smaller amount of BTC - possibly a lot smaller if you "rolled" it from XPY - and you have less liquidity, making you shill shamelessly while dumping your IONs. To be fair, nobody expects you to understand or agree with this, so you might as well give it up and enjoy your imaginary riches. I love fake monies! Fake monies!
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May 15, 2017, 09:51:38 PM |
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@suchmoon I think you can relate to this article... "We’ve seen that power is a slippery slope, and that once a person or group has power, they will almost never relinquish it voluntarily. We’ve seen this with governments, with corporations, and with altcoin developers. The Etherum foundation for example has taken full control of the protocols future, including the rights to make sweeping changes to things such as the consensus algorithm, the coin supply, and even chain rollbacks. Most devs in the altcoin ecosystem maintain the same amount of control, which means users of this ‘decentralized’ ecosystem typically end up placing absolute trust in the dev team."Read the article @ https://blog.sia.tech/the-sia-ethos-48f72f1cf382
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May 15, 2017, 09:58:25 PM |
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@suchmoon I think you can relate to this article... "We’ve seen that power is a slippery slope, and that once a person or group has power, they will almost never relinquish it voluntarily. We’ve seen this with governments, with corporations, and with altcoin developers. The Etherum foundation for example has taken full control of the protocols future, including the rights to make sweeping changes to things such as the consensus algorithm, the coin supply, and even chain rollbacks. Most devs in the altcoin ecosystem maintain the same amount of control, which means users of this ‘decentralized’ ecosystem typically end up placing absolute trust in the dev team."Read the article @ https://blog.sia.tech/the-sia-ethos-48f72f1cf382Not sure what you want me to relate to. Centralization is bad? Yes.
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May 16, 2017, 12:06:49 AM Last edit: May 16, 2017, 12:21:26 AM by WildShark |
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Satoshis aren't dead. You use the USD value cause it make the coin look like it rose in value significantly. If you would show the price in satoshis, you would realize that the value of the coin didn't change since the IOC purchases with BTC. Again, paycoiner logic at its finest. Use whatever data paints the prettiest picture.
I'll roll with USD until you tell me what this Satoshis plot represents. "the value of the coin didn't change ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) lol ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2Ff9b6d4255af0e6ff03b327b039af386f.png&t=663&c=KS5nnDobgunCLA) With out additional info, you can not tell me the price of ION using just this chart... I'm having a hard time " seeking that the value of the coin didn't change since the IOC" in the illustration ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Wrong, you stated "you cannot tell me the price of ION just using this chart..." and I told you. That chart was nothing about the point your brought up. What you just did here was your definition of a troll. Contradict much? Here's USD chart and it shows the increase...
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2Fb6e73883ca8cddb1446bcec5287930cc.png&t=663&c=fOSq8xGSomHRPA)
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May 16, 2017, 01:14:00 AM |
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wildshark,
satoshi price is down. usd went up on all coins. as satoshi price is down ion worrh less satoshi than it was bought for. if you held that same satoshi you'd have more usd in bitcoin. you've actually lost potential usd by buying ion. you do understand this right and are just trying to cover... right?
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May 16, 2017, 01:16:08 AM |
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Satoshis aren't dead. You use the USD value cause it make the coin look like it rose in value significantly. If you would show the price in satoshis, you would realize that the value of the coin didn't change since the IOC purchases with BTC. Again, paycoiner logic at its finest. Use whatever data paints the prettiest picture.
I'll roll with USD until you tell me what this Satoshis plot represents. "the value of the coin didn't change ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) lol ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2Ff9b6d4255af0e6ff03b327b039af386f.png&t=663&c=KS5nnDobgunCLA) With out additional info, you can not tell me the price of ION using just this chart... I can tell you that using btc to buy ion in the middle of april was a stupid idea because you would have more btc and/or USD if you did not do that. Only looking at that chart with no axis labeled.
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May 16, 2017, 11:40:05 AM |
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Speaking to my lawyer tomorrow to start an action against the UK based members of the Ionomy team for defrauding me
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May 16, 2017, 11:43:30 AM |
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Speaking to my lawyer tomorrow to start an action against the UK based members of the Ionomy team for defrauding me
Do share more if you don't mind. Might be nice for potential investors to hear so they can try and avoid the same situation.
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May 16, 2017, 11:50:00 AM |
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How much ION do you need for a masternode? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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May 16, 2017, 11:59:03 AM |
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Speaking to my lawyer tomorrow to start an action against the UK based members of the Ionomy team for defrauding me
Do share more if you don't mind. Might be nice for potential investors to hear so they can try and avoid the same situation. Ionomy sold me nearly 6TH of 256 hashing power and now saying they get no return on it,refuse to tell me who they had it with or what happened to it,it just disappeared.Regardless who they were mining with there should still be a return but no they just shut it down or so they say
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May 16, 2017, 01:27:51 PM |
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Hello, So what kind of game that will use this coin?
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May 16, 2017, 03:40:45 PM |
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Are there any masternode payment issues? i have not received for more than 1 day, but my node is up and running ......
Well, it looks like shark did too good a job convincing other suckers investors to start masternodes, so it became harder for them to generate rewards.
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May 16, 2017, 04:18:04 PM Last edit: May 16, 2017, 04:48:14 PM by WildShark |
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Well, it looks like shark did too good a job convincing other suckers investors to start masternodes, so it became harder for them to generate rewards.
Good news for MN owners, the Ionomy LTD is shutting down the MNs that were being used to support the 12 month XPY Stakers The "harder to generate reward" is due to current decrease in the ION block reward (as per schedule of the white paper). I expect the number of MNs to increase as the coin migrates from staker to Masternodes... How much ION do you need for a masternode? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) 20K IONs
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May 16, 2017, 04:55:35 PM |
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Hello, So what kind of game that will use this coin?
They haven't completed any games yet... check back next year. Are there any masternode payment issues? i have not received for more than 1 day, but my node is up and running ......
My condolences on your loss. I doubt you'll find much help here though. Try ionomy support or slack or something. Well, it looks like shark did too good a job convincing other suckers investors to start masternodes, so it became harder for them to generate rewards.
Good news for MN owners, the Ionomy LTD is shutting down the MNs that were being used to support the 12 month XPY Stakers The "harder to generate reward" is due to current decrease in the ION block reward (as per schedule of the white paper). I expect the number of MNs to increase as the coin migrates from staker to Masternodes... So which is it, shutting down or increasing? And block reward decrease doesn't change the target block time, so your bullshit on that part is highly misleading.
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May 16, 2017, 05:49:42 PM Last edit: May 16, 2017, 06:53:15 PM by WildShark |
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Well, it looks like shark did too good a job convincing other suckers investors to start masternodes, so it became harder for them to generate rewards.
Good news for MN owners, the Ionomy LTD is shutting down the MNs that were being used to support the 12 month XPY Stakers The "harder to generate reward" is due to current decrease in the ION block reward (as per schedule of the white paper). I expect the number of MNs to increase as the coin migrates from staker to Masternodes... So which is it, shutting down or increasing? [/quote] There has been a drop in number of MNs to 330 (shut down) Increase on it's way over the next 2-3 days
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May 16, 2017, 10:30:30 PM |
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I read on Slack where a new person asked the general audience why they should by ION. The answer: if I were you I'd buy as many as I can right now. What a great answer to "why should I buy ION?" Didn't appear anyone tried to seriously answer the question and just pushed them to buy. Are all the Ionites shills?
Oh ya, one person did say "wait till all the games come out". LOL! One year and we got a half baked game with 10 levels with absolutely no outside interest in the game. Hell, I'd say more than half the investors don't even play it anymore.
In the beginning it was "this isn't a trading coin". Now, after the release of uber shitty Gravity it's, there's a bunch of BTC people waiting to trade his coin. Traders like a coin with a lot of buy pressure (from the ads). Gravity sucks so ION turned into a trading coin. They literally make this shit up as they take people's monies.
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May 17, 2017, 12:42:49 AM |
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Oh ya, one person did say "wait till all the games come out". LOL! One year and we got a half baked game with 10 levels with absolutely no outside interest in the game. Hell, I'd say more than half the investors don't even play it anymore.
In the beginning it was "this isn't a trading coin". Now, after the release of uber shitty Gravity it's, there's a bunch of BTC people waiting to trade his coin. Traders like a coin with a lot of buy pressure (from the ads). Gravity sucks so ION turned into a trading coin. They literally make this shit up as they take people's monies.
I just can't get my head around how they think a team who hasn't been able to deliver even one single 'complete' game in a year of work is going to go magically transform into a well oiled studio churning out surefire hits by the end of the year. They haven't even 'finished' the first game yet, and the second hasn't gone into alpha. Just where are these games coming from? Also, there has been excited chatter about the purchase pool from the ads; just how much money do they think a game with so few actual players will be bringing in in ad revenue? It's so far beyond delusion at this point that it's bordering parody.
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May 17, 2017, 02:28:27 AM |
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Well, it looks like shark did too good a job convincing other suckers investors to start masternodes, so it became harder for them to generate rewards.
Good news for MN owners, the Ionomy LTD is shutting down the MNs that were being used to support the 12 month XPY Stakers The "harder to generate reward" is due to current decrease in the ION block reward (as per schedule of the white paper). I expect the number of MNs to increase as the coin migrates from staker to Masternodes... How much ION do you need for a masternode? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) 20K IONs Increase in masternodes is bad for other masternode owners because the more masternodes there are, the more people competing for that share of the reward. Unless, of course, the goal of your shilling is to get people to buy the 20k ion you have in your masternode, then it is a great thing for new people to be in the market for 20k ions.
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