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July 02, 2017, 11:51:36 PM |
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Okay let me phrase this another way..... you don't evolve from ape to fat man in one generation and ionomy isn't a charity.
It's a business that is developing and implementing a WIN WIN WIN business model. I along with ionomy are just as pro decentralised as you are but until the tools are in place to facilitate total decentralisation one has to survive whilst building infrastructure. The endgame is total decentralisation.
And about Ionomy hosting a node give me an example of something which is just as easy to setup i.e. a couple of clicks. That's the point of offering the service not to steal or control your coin. You are not the target market for the service, you have the technical capabilities to remotely setup a node and still locally keep control of your coin.
The point I'm trying to make is that they're moving BACKWARDS with regard to decentralization. How does it help to build the same things TWICE - i.e. electrons/atoms/hosted nodes/etc in the old-school PHP way and the rebuild everything "properly"? Sounds wasteful and sounds like an excuse. The "couple of clicks" argument is a perfect example of going in the wrong direction. Why couldn't they take a decentralized staking pool idea and make THAT easy to use, if existing ones are not sufficiently user-friendly? Not sure why you're asking me to provide an example. Implying that ionomy can only do something that's already been done? I'm trying to suggest that they should innovate and you're arguing otherwise, what a bizarre reversal. And no, the argument is not necessarily about stealing or ionomy's malicious intent (although decentralization would mitigate that as well). What if ionomy gets hacked, what if they go bankrupt, etc... there are many other threats out of their control. They ever warn about it in the TOS but still develop and promote services doing the opposite: https://ionomy.com/terms-serviceWhile Ionomy Limited takes great care in safeguarding funds, the possibility of a security breach is always possible. Ionomy Limited is not responsible for loss of your funds in the event of a breach. Ionomy Limited has set up a reserve in the event of a small breach, but that reserve may be unable to cover all losses. Ionomy Limited encourages use of private wallets and the diversification of the Virtual Currency network. An always on, large, web hosted wallet is a target and you should carefully consider where and how you store your Virtual Currencies. |
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CryptoBuds
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July 03, 2017, 02:45:56 AM |
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While encouraging the use of private wallets to diversify the virtual currency network, Team ION states that always on, large, web hosted wallets are targets for attack and say they are not responsible for lost funds and the whales are shilling this as one of their greatest inventions. Is that the gist of it here? Seems a little oxymoronish (oxymoronic?) to me.
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July 03, 2017, 03:42:22 AM |
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While encouraging the use of private wallets to diversify the virtual currency network, Team ION states that always on, large, web hosted wallets are targets for attack and say they are not responsible for lost funds and the whales are shilling this as one of their greatest inventions. Is that the gist of it here? Seems a little oxymoronish (oxymoronic?) to me.
so they want you to use online stakers on their service and give a higher rate.... and even sell skins but they dont want any responsibility? so they encourage you to spend money but their security for online is likely as overlooked as their time warp attack that was the rage years ago... im confused. the white paper also goes on about bitcoin encouraging power in a concentrated central way but their premine and masternode amount does the same. i feel so conflicted. the white paper keeps pulling me 2 different ways. its word salad applied with a copy paste coin. did they write the whitepaper first then find a coin clone to match it or pick a clobe coin and write to it? |
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July 03, 2017, 10:52:19 AM |
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its word salad applied with a copy paste coin. did they write the whitepaper first then find a coin clone to match it or pick a clobe coin and write to it?
AFAIK the whitepaper didn't change substantially when they moved from clone #1 to clone #2, and both clones were based on Dash therefore masternodes etc. The tweaks to the clones - 1-minute block time, hyperinflation, etc - their favorites from XPY. Ironically the block target reduction contributed to the time warp attack. |
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July 04, 2017, 10:38:30 AM |
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its word salad applied with a copy paste coin. did they write the whitepaper first then find a coin clone to match it or pick a clobe coin and write to it?
AFAIK the whitepaper didn't change substantially when they moved from clone #1 to clone #2, and both clones were based on Dash therefore masternodes etc. The tweaks to the clones - 1-minute block time, hyperinflation, etc - their favorites from XPY. Ironically the block target reduction contributed to the time warp attack. oOoO, CryptoBuds, Suchmoon Just wondering..... When are you planing to invest ? |
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July 04, 2017, 10:49:20 AM |
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its word salad applied with a copy paste coin. did they write the whitepaper first then find a coin clone to match it or pick a clobe coin and write to it?
AFAIK the whitepaper didn't change substantially when they moved from clone #1 to clone #2, and both clones were based on Dash therefore masternodes etc. The tweaks to the clones - 1-minute block time, hyperinflation, etc - their favorites from XPY. Ironically the block target reduction contributed to the time warp attack. oOoO, CryptoBuds, Suchmoon Just wondering..... When are you planing to invest ? Soom |
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July 04, 2017, 12:06:03 PM |
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its word salad applied with a copy paste coin. did they write the whitepaper first then find a coin clone to match it or pick a clobe coin and write to it?
AFAIK the whitepaper didn't change substantially when they moved from clone #1 to clone #2, and both clones were based on Dash therefore masternodes etc. The tweaks to the clones - 1-minute block time, hyperinflation, etc - their favorites from XPY. Ironically the block target reduction contributed to the time warp attack. oOoO, CryptoBuds, Suchmoon Just wondering..... When are you planing to invest ? as soon as they ate transparent fully, spend the premine asthey said they would, actually look competent as devs, are decentralised like they say or never.... which ever comes first though i believe them both to be the same. korvas what happened to that huge price rise? has ion lost a lot of value in the last few days? you trumpet up the rises how about admitting the big drops. why you think it dropped? your friends in ionomy land were convinced it was big adoption. |
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July 04, 2017, 12:50:53 PM |
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its word salad applied with a copy paste coin. did they write the whitepaper first then find a coin clone to match it or pick a clobe coin and write to it?
AFAIK the whitepaper didn't change substantially when they moved from clone #1 to clone #2, and both clones were based on Dash therefore masternodes etc. The tweaks to the clones - 1-minute block time, hyperinflation, etc - their favorites from XPY. Ironically the block target reduction contributed to the time warp attack. oOoO, CryptoBuds, Suchmoon Just wondering..... When are you planing to invest ? I'm already invested up to my ears. Unless you mean ION, in which case my answer is the short version of o0o0's answer - never. |
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July 06, 2017, 02:49:02 PM |
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its word salad applied with a copy paste coin. did they write the whitepaper first then find a coin clone to match it or pick a clobe coin and write to it?
AFAIK the whitepaper didn't change substantially when they moved from clone #1 to clone #2, and both clones were based on Dash therefore masternodes etc. The tweaks to the clones - 1-minute block time, hyperinflation, etc - their favorites from XPY. Ironically the block target reduction contributed to the time warp attack. oOoO, CryptoBuds, Suchmoon Just wondering..... When are you planing to invest ? as soon as they ate transparent fully, spend the premine asthey said they would, actually look competent as devs, are decentralised like they say or never.... which ever comes first though i believe them both to be the same. korvas what happened to that huge price rise? has ion lost a lot of value in the last few days? you trumpet up the rises how about admitting the big drops. why you think it dropped? your friends in ionomy land were convinced it was big adoption. Small solid steps oOoO  Currently the price is sitting at around $1 which when you consider I bought most of my ION for $.2 a year ago this price is good. When you combine this with the ION i created by staking it's actually very good. But as you know I'm not in this for the short term I'm 3 years+. The target I set myself is 50% the price of DASH in 3 years so today that would equate to an ION of value of $100 not $1. Eating crumbs off a table doesn't interest me Losing a lot of value is ION dropping to $.3, a drop to $1 is nothing. At the moment I'm happy to see we've reached a trading peak 24H volume of + $1 million dollars, people are beginning to wake up to the opportunity |
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July 06, 2017, 02:59:46 PM |
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I thought this was a game focused coin. Where are the new games and updates? Or is this no longer a gaming coin?
When will the roadmap be updated?
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July 06, 2017, 07:19:55 PM |
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I may have missed it, but is the rollback complete?
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korvas128
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July 07, 2017, 08:09:03 AM |
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I thought this was a game focused coin. Where are the new games and updates? Or is this no longer a gaming coin?
When will the roadmap be updated?
It is still a game focused coin although it just so happens you make a shitload of money supporting the network too. For instance a 20K masternode gets you.....  https://masternodes.ionomy.com/My guess is and it is just a guess. An updated roadmap will appear once the cakecodes implementation as happened. |
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July 07, 2017, 10:08:04 AM |
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It really seams like they abandoned the gaming aspect. If gaming truly was the focus of this coin, more than one half baked game would be released by now. Now that MNs make illusions of money, the games don't matter. Whatever will make them whole again, they'll throw darts at the dartboard.
.5 of a half baked game in 15 months = this is not a serious gaming coin. Would love to hear this disputed.
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korvas128
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July 07, 2017, 03:32:15 PM |
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It really seams like they abandoned the gaming aspect. If gaming truly was the focus of this coin, more than one half baked game would be released by now. Now that MNs make illusions of money, the games don't matter. Whatever will make them whole again, they'll throw darts at the dartboard.
.5 of a half baked game in 15 months = this is not a serious gaming coin. Would love to hear this disputed.
I was made whole months ago and I'm not the exception to the rule  . Do the sums.... 8 to 1 XPY to ION conversion ICO $.2 to $.25 Staker & Masternode payout rates Daily Bittrex volume now hitting over $1 million on a regular basis The ION price holding at around $1 highest peak so far has been over $3.00 Being made whole hahahaha seriously Concerning games your right in fact today's version of Gravity I would consider it to be .3 of a game not .5. lots more to come |
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July 07, 2017, 04:24:26 PM |
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Ok, so please explain the lack of games. Why are more games not out? New investors will look at the roadmap and expect one game per month the be released. I see that ionomy is cool with misleading people then?
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July 07, 2017, 05:09:59 PM |
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Funny how the most math-challenged paycoiners keep saying "do the math"... korvas, why don't you do it yourself and share with the class.
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July 07, 2017, 07:34:17 PM |
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Funny how the most math-challenged paycoiners keep saying "do the math"... korvas, why don't you do it yourself and share with the class.
Based on the facts I listed if I sold today I'd be walking away making around 350% margin. Made whole another fact less assement like I'm really going to share my portfolio duh |
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Last edit: July 07, 2017, 08:56:04 PM by CryptoBuds |
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Funny how the most math-challenged paycoiners keep saying "do the math"... korvas, why don't you do it yourself and share with the class.
Based on the facts I listed if I sold today I'd be walking away making around 350% margin. Made whole another fact less assement like I'm really going to share my portfolio duh He's not asking to see your portfolio, he's asking to see the maths for all the "just do the math" statements. Buy this coin, trust me. It's all about the maths, but don't worry about the proof. |
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