Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order

[edonkey]

The fact still remains you have a burnt miner lol lol. so your the stupid fool, how are you going to post a picture of a burnt miner and then come out here claiming to know what you are doing admit it you dont know anything because if you did your miner would not have went up in smoke in the first place lol lol lol lol.

You're an idiot. Just shut up.

I invite you to join the rest of us in putting him on ignore. This thread becomes a lot more productive to read that way.

I'm with you. I marked this person as ignored days ago. But when I mentioned doing so on this thread, a mod deleted my post.

The ignore link is an important feature that not everyone knows about. Pointing out the ignore feature when faced with abject idiocy should be considered a public service, not a censorable offense.

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[RichBC]

I invite you to join the rest of us in putting him on ignore. This thread becomes a lot more productive to read that way.

Guys you are just feeding the Troll. Follow the above advice, and all the nonsense disappears. :-)

Rich

[bitcoinbarron]

Back to the fact that Bitmain haven't adjusted their prices after the halving is horrendous
I will go back to buying Spondoolies kit to expand my farm if its not rectified, mainly because I know the Spondoolies kit is going to last and its 19in rack mount with make my airflow management like 23.5x easier

Bitcoin mining really has gone to shit hasn't it


Regs alex

EDIT;
Having 300a three phase (3x 300a phase to neutral feeds @240v) FREE and looking at the S9 with FREE ELECTRIC with a ROI of over 18 months (571 days), NOT including the PSU or distribution equipment required to run multiples of these units.

Might just invest my money 100 scratch cards instead to be honest

[Subw]

Hi to everybody. I have an s9 antminer 12.93 th/s. Today the yield moved from 0.03 evere 24 hours to 0.018. What s is going on? Difficult increase?? I cannot check... i am abroad. Or maybe my 3g data plan is suffering.? Which one is your actual yield? From the dashboard of antpool i can see that they miner is on and the hashrate looks ok.

poor bastard...

[Erumara]

Hi to everybody. I have an s9 antminer 12.93 th/s. Today the yield moved from 0.03 evere 24 hours to 0.018. What s is going on? Difficult increase?? I cannot check... i am abroad. Or maybe my 3g data plan is suffering.? Which one is your actual yield? From the dashboard of antpool i can see that they miner is on and the hashrate looks ok.

poor bastard...

Oooo that's brutal. Always do your research........

[Sierra8561]

Hi to everybody. I have an s9 antminer 12.93 th/s. Today the yield moved from 0.03 evere 24 hours to 0.018. What s is going on? Difficult increase?? I cannot check... i am abroad. Or maybe my 3g data plan is suffering.? Which one is your actual yield? From the dashboard of antpool i can see that they miner is on and the hashrate looks ok.

poor bastard...

Oooo that's brutal. Always do your research........

LOL, such lack of knowledge. Biggest thing to happen with bitcoin in 4 years. His couldn't you know.

[alienesb]

Back to the fact that Bitmain haven't adjusted their prices after the halving is horrendous
I will go back to buying Spondoolies kit to expand my farm if its not rectified, mainly because I know the Spondoolies kit is going to last and its 19in rack mount with make my airflow management like 23.5x easier

Bitcoin mining really has gone to shit hasn't it


Regs alex

EDIT;
Having 300a three phase (3x 300a phase to neutral feeds @240v) FREE and looking at the S9 with FREE ELECTRIC with a ROI of over 18 months (571 days), NOT including the PSU or distribution equipment required to run multiples of these units.

Might just invest my money 100 scratch cards instead to be honest

The price of these should be cut in half.

[talks_cheep]

At this time, Bitmain is preying on noobs and ignorants. They're shady as f*ck. Boycott Bitmain. Of course, I know I'm talking to deaf ears.

[bbOOmm]

Am I calculating this right for a single S9 miner....

$2075 for an S9

12.9TH hashrate using 1350W

Electric rate 13.111 cents per KWh in southeast Wisconsin

ROI for just the miner 365 days ( not including climate control electrical costs )

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............ If its a year til ROI, and it takes Bitmain LESS THAN a year to come out with a new model ( The time the S7 hit the market to the time the S9 was being sold was less than a year) ... individuals and farms will not be profitable at all .... the death of bitcoin mining it looks like... unless you have solar or renewable energy.

New machines won't be coming out for another 2 years.  There will be no more than 20% improvement on efficiency on the current machines.  You have time to profit.

That doesn't mean they can't optimise the 16nm process somewhat. Bitmain put out, what, two? 28nm chips that each improved on the previous process. I'm sure we will see a chip revision with new hardware coming out sometime... how soon is the real question

But first, Bitmain has to fix the current S9's in production to bring them up to the advertised speed of 14+TH. Although, I have a funny feeling that Bitmain is cherry picking the 14+TH machines for their own farm and the sub-standard machines that failed quality control that have 11TH, 12TH etc... are simply sold as "Special Editions"

[philipma1957]

Lets see how many they sold since the ½-ing


me a while back i paid here
https://blockchain.info/address/13EbsziW9G7qbdAwJPrZD1J4c3QPbF7AXA

and it went here
https://blockchain.info/address/1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V

this account has 42,000 btc  one but not the only account for bitmaintech.

Down and dirty fast math  more then 110 s-9's sold since the ½ ing that is pretty impressive!

no price drop no adjustment.

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	1AzThCy42kvaKwDb3MLA4gVTR3cNZxMLFW - (Spent) 0.0003 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 3.579 BTC
3.579 BTC

30906d1578ab9b3990111be183a5967262b155e759d8a5c19a514bf83b2d9166(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 374 bytes) 2016-07-10 02:40:02
1C3WZt8zMNGeMRZdgohYPzUMi8Nj7fbTZG (1.08 BTC - Output)
18Uk6kDNvrhbsKM3r2TKd2JZpJdfrWwU87 (0.0005 BTC - Output)
	14L8dfsXgtfUnhUuWH4DUNYe1733Tu1aEY - (Spent) 0.0004 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 1.08 BTC
1.08 BTC

45d9e5f66b3175b237e6552f927377426e16ee7a3cbd2c1a323150ce26c719c0(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 374 bytes) 2016-07-10 01:56:02
1UZJ4sFsWcwBZRiCtHfKAN6ZLVcmL2f57 (0.692 BTC - Output)
18Uk6kDNvrhbsKM3r2TKd2JZpJdfrWwU87 (0.0005 BTC - Output)
	12fsyjkXSNvbaSD7Weh49yMhAa9tsBsASZ - (Unspent) 0.0004 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 0.692 BTC
0.692 BTC

bc70333c45411997958caff064ce2a1d6af7ab312c7f5e69df200ecb06480bea(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 374 bytes) 2016-07-10 00:44:04
16hHwjgFfXHCNqbSdRbRMCZdtTZ8jo6MMN (5.697 BTC - Output)
19htWTpLnKpRhTTdF7tkSY1VqwWQBMvRZz (0.0004 BTC - Output)
	13b8RAKHqup1s7egApu96gEvoLLvLF7sXM - (Unspent) 0.0003 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 5.697 BTC
5.697 BTC

112ada1cca6fa7be4a6b21114da97806174241392cd54ee34e4173276846ec42(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 373 bytes) 2016-07-09 22:52:02
1PWka1H3kRV2DmrQd5fnoH5aV7sWvkQeZ9 (2.87 BTC - Output)
18Uk6kDNvrhbsKM3r2TKd2JZpJdfrWwU87 (0.0005 BTC - Output)
	19htWTpLnKpRhTTdF7tkSY1VqwWQBMvRZz - (Spent) 0.0004 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 2.87 BTC
2.87 BTC

fc22a1ecb36c463ca064f9390d37ec17aaede119578317ed30b569ce98dc54a4(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 373 bytes) 2016-07-09 21:56:01
1MVsGrJKoiuo8AdtjahLbhwycnxDJUJgbo (4.034 BTC - Output)
1DLL4exqjVoKXhcmkjycawNcSrdWqeX6jF (0.0002 BTC - Output)
	17oGpQSENH6uVtaK57smwmgxyuAH981u68 - (Unspent) 0.0001 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 4.034 BTC
4.034 BTC

0914b7028d89ad48cd89d13d1847d8e5c45fabc26744cec88bacf93653e0ddf1(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 374 bytes) 2016-07-09 21:06:01
14Q71Kdu2ZMeY7iUbFsNFaZLm7aqcc5M16 (0.0436 BTC - Output)
14Ry82yxQGZpZKt7sWXmPzfxUwTTdPtzJX (0.0003 BTC - Output)
	19k7kJQxXLtcSYFsvgtFhhfRVYrY144v2T - (Unspent) 0.0002 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 0.0436 BTC
0.0436 BTC

97a7cafc6974d7fb900a90525dc05c928098e183af64da476ee7610f2da8ffb3(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 373 bytes) 2016-07-09 20:22:04
17saYWCpy7pSDj3tiL3Jhz83GE82bR3Ldz (24.887 BTC - Output)
15bHhtA33Wd6zXoAtBVopuZY8ADYecCzv8 (0.0004 BTC - Output)
	13b8RAKHqup1s7egApu96gEvoLLvLF7sXM - (Unspent) 0.0003 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 24.887 BTC
24.887 BTC


0edae9fe5de075e183b4bbdc5b338a3e18d30a69705cd297345ccc57fd94d264(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 372 bytes) 2016-07-09 20:10:02
1MdYs6huSLXJM1cW7tBGT4r2bXKTz5j7yu (3.271 BTC - Output)
1wQg1omGezb6At2PC9wTjjdKdWcKHSU7c (0.0004 BTC - Output)
	14Ry82yxQGZpZKt7sWXmPzfxUwTTdPtzJX - (Spent) 0.0003 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 3.271 BTC
3.271 BTC


121b1015a88c450eb9ff8c609c4141a33012c1e99f1b384110c2f9d765d0cc09(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 373 bytes) 2016-07-09 18:04:02
18C6ywbwWzi5ivgFMr4hKKPVqsSwBr1Mru (1.064 BTC - Output)
18Uk6kDNvrhbsKM3r2TKd2JZpJdfrWwU87 (0.0005 BTC - Output)
	1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 1.064 BTC
1wQg1omGezb6At2PC9wTjjdKdWcKHSU7c - (Spent) 0.0004 BTC
1.064 BTC


b1544865bedb4816706c87afc219e6a6bd5eb948213ac5e0010f782400bb885f(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 374 bytes) 2016-07-09 17:56:01
19rL6sjbnyNuyXTxZ7XunR8xxeL81ppicQ (3.298 BTC - Output)
18Uk6kDNvrhbsKM3r2TKd2JZpJdfrWwU87 (0.0005 BTC - Output)
	15bHhtA33Wd6zXoAtBVopuZY8ADYecCzv8 - (Spent) 0.0004 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 3.298 BTC
3.298 BTC


3d2e5fc0a4a79f12f12a3b2133d5a47baa08bb3e3f1cfbb4fe49ed7fe87102d7(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 373 bytes) 2016-07-09 17:22:03
15VnLxw5KpKuM7RhtyEmowd1Jk8CVjPk5Q (0.272 BTC - Output)
18Uk6kDNvrhbsKM3r2TKd2JZpJdfrWwU87 (0.0005 BTC - Output)
	18TgdxwadnrViEJC3ER2yd6wuukvRBSrSr - (Unspent) 0.0004 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 0.272 BTC
0.272 BTC


ee4921f727f6ac036496c1574c936d810d477a7f657690375389443e32396680(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 373 bytes) 2016-07-09 17:22:02
1MjUrNpo4B1FfTNjFvutSTfv2DhtwHDt7d (0.104 BTC - Output)
1DxNCVM7Naj14Fs2AYfQa1VcUrj1Fe6t2K (0.0003 BTC - Output)
	1DLL4exqjVoKXhcmkjycawNcSrdWqeX6jF - (Spent) 0.0002 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 0.104 BTC
0.104 BTC


0f34a241c512451dd1f8780622d271c1ac4536af59a2188ec911aa60155c355c(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 372 bytes) 2016-07-09 17:14:02
1LyUy6roeXhzAbEQPa877kZcuvG5uzuV77 (1.055 BTC - Output)
1EabxZoUZoFN3TgEgSTSDqgFjVQDU7JCg7 (0.0002 BTC - Output)
	19k7kJQxXLtcSYFsvgtFhhfRVYrY144v2T - (Unspent) 0.0001 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 1.055 BTC
1.055 BTC

f057514f31cbd915c5b2e688d4539194b998fe295b1d87db38ca1c01c3b350e0(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 372 bytes) 2016-07-09 15:12:02
1LxbBhPvmPfRVJZLGHR8fdezg8GefF7Lx1 (2.143 BTC - Output)
18Uk6kDNvrhbsKM3r2TKd2JZpJdfrWwU87 (0.0005 BTC - Output)
	14L8dfsXgtfUnhUuWH4DUNYe1733Tu1aEY - (Unspent) 0.0004 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 2.143 BTC
2.143 BTC


fe099a6f308dadfd045f7f5a378365cd8f1b686728beb16088a396aafed1e6a2(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 374 bytes) 2016-07-09 14:22:02
1Lvo842nKeinFBfxs3fkUQanvppyJqrPP5 (3.287 BTC - Output)
1CdtD84taJKED3AnQhWGtGoDCK9yUUm8u8 (0.0003 BTC - Output)
	1EabxZoUZoFN3TgEgSTSDqgFjVQDU7JCg7 - (Unspent) 0.0002 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 3.287 BTC
3.287 BTC


39161a86297fa3d4225a14755f36ed393f98e7467a3e4c0776f02e923e36d314(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 374 bytes) 2016-07-09 13:36:02
12t2BTsy7oQdwCpJdzKfN4b2Cdt7DS14uJ (6.2335 BTC - Output)
1GE62dTo1Ag4WsPS1y8btQKS5jCK67SjSN (0.0004 BTC - Output)
	1CdtD84taJKED3AnQhWGtGoDCK9yUUm8u8 - (Spent) 0.0003 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 6.2335 BTC
6.2335 BTC


3a1accdf09f075695878c5183f0e417e76551c6d6e5b5e50bf936926d06de6e4(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 372 bytes) 2016-07-09 10:20:02
1Q5kXLSSsGuqiYDprE19HUYnMNTkp48VV8 (2.834 BTC - Output)
18Uk6kDNvrhbsKM3r2TKd2JZpJdfrWwU87 (0.0005 BTC - Output)
	1AaZMRXMojU8zymrQZF31ZMgrWjjsNfQXb - (Unspent) 0.0004 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 2.834 BTC
2.834 BTC


4d0c30424d8dc34a5ee6b3fec85c67af0f439fbf126d98744f40910a810371d5(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 372 bytes) 2016-07-09 08:40:01
1Q3howXaxPcnRF4Y2XkMy8kdDJFfap5F3 (3.561 BTC - Output)
14z3D5vffjCrD8gmAVF7WUfdXTCh47o2VC (0.0004 BTC - Output)
	1E3RfA788FQEwB8dZYAudbQZzoVvTEsFTc - (Unspent) 0.0003 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 3.561 BTC
3.561 BTC


ab6bf1dc3c3e6b2366883609527f52e721a5e182d14ee58b7026ea9f756db0ef(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 372 bytes) 2016-07-09 05:54:02
1CweeGqdyWZfBiPXUzBRoUnkVYJwbjWLGY (14.024 BTC - Output)
16TWgYC8wAyDkFGyEoFx746cPzcEMoNXNu (0.0003 BTC - Output)
	1KbBzuzp9QqVApVrMeHP6J8agXEd4HvACb - (Unspent) 0.0002 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 14.024 BTC
14.024 BTC


3e2d61daf6ffbd4224d8d6ead5730ff71b3c2dc61cfe3abc092b8e324decaf63(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 372 bytes) 2016-07-09 05:22:02
1HHpjPDcTZo2bgXaW9sVASvouHXhUZh1bL (2.865 BTC - Output)
1F9WHWVtk9WRUE64bsDRMMyeTcMF1K1uck (0.0004 BTC - Output)
	16TWgYC8wAyDkFGyEoFx746cPzcEMoNXNu - (Spent) 0.0003 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 2.865 BTC
2.865 BTC

[bbOOmm]

.....
As far as all the ROI talk goes... if you can't roi then great do not buy a miner. If you want to support the network, then maybe you should consider buying a miner. Some of us spend money to run a full node which does not return any money. It is not always about "getting rich"

 

Ahhhh, If I'm not mistaken, Running a -Full Node- is running the the full bitcoin wallet program 24/7 that is open for both incoming and outgoing connections to keep the blockchain  decentralized and transactions recorded.

Mining - using miners- if for the generation of NEW BITCOINS thus being paid for your serviced to help create bitcoins. Running miners is NOT needed to support or keep the blockchain alive.

That's my understanding, but I may be wrong.

[Moria843]

Executive summary on all technical analyses: You can make a profit with S9s if you move to Iceland. Most everybody else, it's a money losing prospect unless bitcoin at least doubles soon.

There you have it. Good luck!

[Marvell1]

Hi to everybody. I have an s9 antminer 12.93 th/s. Today the yield moved from 0.03 evere 24 hours to 0.018. What s is going on? Difficult increase?? I cannot check... i am abroad. Or maybe my 3g data plan is suffering.? Which one is your actual yield? From the dashboard of antpool i can see that they miner is on and the hashrate looks ok.

poor bastard...

lol Difficult increase im rofl 😆😆😆😆😆😆

[adaseb]

Hi to everybody. I have an s9 antminer 12.93 th/s. Today the yield moved from 0.03 evere 24 hours to 0.018. What s is going on? Difficult increase?? I cannot check... i am abroad. Or maybe my 3g data plan is suffering.? Which one is your actual yield? From the dashboard of antpool i can see that they miner is on and the hashrate looks ok.

poor bastard...

lol Difficult increase im rofl 😆😆😆😆😆😆

You would be surprised but many new miners have no idea what difficulty or halving means. Some don't even realize how much power a miner can consume.

Why do you think there are Antminers S3 going for $100-200. People think it makes $0.50/per day/until eternity.

 

[Subw]

lol Difficult increase im rofl 😆😆😆😆😆😆

what's funny? everyone knows it is difficult to increase...

[Tupsu]

lol Difficult increase im rofl 😆😆😆😆😆😆

what's funny? everyone knows it is difficult to increase...

But not 100%.  It is technically impossible.

[numnutz2009]

i think its funny that people are STILL buying these s9's at the price they have listed. AFTER HALVING these miners will take about a year to ROI....how can anyone expect a year out of these machines when so many are having issues getting a couple of weeks worth of mining time out of them!?!?!. hell the early adopters got a miner that was supposed to mine at 14.xx th/s only to find out they wont be stable at those speeds for very long if at all. people had dead s9's just show up at their door....dead right out of the box! ROI should be 6 months all the way up to about 200 days max. not a year+. please people.....stop buying these things and show bitmain they need to revise their design a bit and provide a more stable and profitable miner. if you keep buying them the price will stay high and you wont ever make your money back unless the price soars to the moon and back which you shouldn't base your investment on those kinds of numbers....only base it on the numbers we know right now.


also im confused about this guy talking about 1000w ac in not being able to produce 2000w dc out....a typical house uses 10/15a breakers in its rooms. older houses use 10a while newer ones have larger ones. my house has 20a breakers for all the 110v sockets so im one of the lucky ones. at 20a i can push about 2300w dc. i can go higher but its unsafe to make out the line 24/7 so its always good to leave some room in there. a good rule of thumb is 1 s7 per breaker at full speed. where i mine i have 6 breakers dedicated to 1 room and another 5 dedicated to the second room and 1 miner is on each breaker. the higher the input voltage the more watts that can be pulled from the plug so if you have 110v ac power you can pull a max of about 2400w give or take a few watts either way for tolerances when making these. if you jack the voltage up to 220v using the very same wires the only difference is the wall socket and the breaker (double slot breaker instead of single slot one since im in the us) then you can top out the wattage at around 4500w safely.....thats using the very same gauge wires the 110v uses.

now if hes saying that his ac breaker tops out at around 1000 watts then maybe he means he has a 10a breaker and that's all he is able to push through it so if that's the case then he is 100% correct....he WILL NOT be able to push 2000w dc through a 10a ac breaker period. anyone that argues that you can do this on a stock unmodded electrical connection is wrong and should read up on how this works a little bit before posting about electricity again. Anyone that is able to push that many watts through a 10a 110v ac line should stop doing it right away otherwise be ready for your house/mining location to burn down.....make sure u have insurance too.

if the guy is saying the later he is 100% correct and you all should say sorry to him and you all that say your electricians should go back to school because its you that is wrong. im no cert electrician so im more of a hobbyist but my step father does electrical work and has since i was a young child and i have always been into watching him do his thing and learning from his vast pool of knowledge. that coupled with real world experience from trial and error type stuff makes me confident in saying what i mentioned above is correct. lets hope steve was referring to the later and not the first part.   

[Subw]

But not 100%.  It is technically impossible.

you cannot stop difficult

[not.you]

But not 100%.  It is technically impossible.

you cannot stop difficult

All your difficult are belong to us

[Marvell1]

lol Difficult increase im rofl 😆😆😆😆😆😆

what's funny? everyone knows it is difficult to increase...

lol