Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order

[Sierra8561]

Since the halving these things are not earning very much at all.  I have 2 of them, one of them I got at under 3 BTC with a couple weeks to mine before the halving, and it still looks like it is going to be a long, long time before these ROI and that's without any electricity costs.  I have one underclocked and the other setup to underclock for 6 hours a day and then do stock clock for the other 18 hours.  Based on what others have said about failure rates this looks like a bigger gamble than I had anticipated. 

And what really sucks is that it comes on the heels of S7's that still haven't hit ROI with free electricity and decent resale price on two of them.  In about 2 months I should hit an overall break-even on the S7's since I still have an early batch unit mining at an average 5.02 Th/s but if not for the resale prices those things would have been a loss for sure.  Wondering if the S9's might be better sold at this point rather than gamble on them lasting long enough to get my BTC back.

you should check out zpool.. it pays out almost as much as prehalving bitcoin.. its also not effected by bitcoin difficulty..

According to the zpool site it returns 0.0018 per THs. Not clear if that's before or after the 2% fee.

That's a 45% increase over straight BTC mining with a 2% fee and 100% luck.

Are you mining there and really seeing these numbers?

I'm very curious to know the answer to this.

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[aarons6]

Since the halving these things are not earning very much at all.  I have 2 of them, one of them I got at under 3 BTC with a couple weeks to mine before the halving, and it still looks like it is going to be a long, long time before these ROI and that's without any electricity costs.  I have one underclocked and the other setup to underclock for 6 hours a day and then do stock clock for the other 18 hours.  Based on what others have said about failure rates this looks like a bigger gamble than I had anticipated.  

And what really sucks is that it comes on the heels of S7's that still haven't hit ROI with free electricity and decent resale price on two of them.  In about 2 months I should hit an overall break-even on the S7's since I still have an early batch unit mining at an average 5.02 Th/s but if not for the resale prices those things would have been a loss for sure.  Wondering if the S9's might be better sold at this point rather than gamble on them lasting long enough to get my BTC back.

you should check out zpool.. it pays out almost as much as prehalving bitcoin.. its also not effected by bitcoin difficulty..

According to the zpool site it returns 0.0018 per THs. Not clear if that's before or after the 2% fee.

That's a 45% increase over straight BTC mining with a 2% fee and 100% luck.

Are you mining there and really seeing these numbers?

yes, its kind of picky about how you setup your miners tho.. check the zpool thread in the mining altcoin section.

i have 2 s7s, underclocked to 525 @ 3500 ghs (7000 ghs total) and i make around .01 to .012 a day in bitcoin.
keep in mind that value fluctuates on current market price of the coins being mined.. you can check the daily running stats on https://poolpicker.eu/table?algo=sha-256

[edonkey]

Since the halving these things are not earning very much at all.  I have 2 of them, one of them I got at under 3 BTC with a couple weeks to mine before the halving, and it still looks like it is going to be a long, long time before these ROI and that's without any electricity costs.  I have one underclocked and the other setup to underclock for 6 hours a day and then do stock clock for the other 18 hours.  Based on what others have said about failure rates this looks like a bigger gamble than I had anticipated.  

And what really sucks is that it comes on the heels of S7's that still haven't hit ROI with free electricity and decent resale price on two of them.  In about 2 months I should hit an overall break-even on the S7's since I still have an early batch unit mining at an average 5.02 Th/s but if not for the resale prices those things would have been a loss for sure.  Wondering if the S9's might be better sold at this point rather than gamble on them lasting long enough to get my BTC back.

you should check out zpool.. it pays out almost as much as prehalving bitcoin.. its also not effected by bitcoin difficulty..

According to the zpool site it returns 0.0018 per THs. Not clear if that's before or after the 2% fee.

That's a 45% increase over straight BTC mining with a 2% fee and 100% luck.

Are you mining there and really seeing these numbers?

yes, its kind of picky about how you setup your miners tho.. check the zpool thread in the mining altcoin section.

i have 2 s7s, underclocked to 525 @ 3500 ghs (7000 ghs total) and i make around .01 to .012 a day in bitcoin.
keep in mind that value fluctuates on current market price of the coins being mined.. you can check the daily running stats on https://poolpicker.eu/table?algo=sha-256

Thanks for getting back to me. That's very interesting.

But you're not running any S9's against zpool. I seem to remember someone indicating earlier in this thread that S9s did not work well with alts. Not sure if I'm misremembering or not.

And of course since Bitmain hasn't provided the sources to their modified miner, it can't be reviewed.

Anyone out there using S9s successfully with zpool?

[Sierra8561]

Since the halving these things are not earning very much at all.  I have 2 of them, one of them I got at under 3 BTC with a couple weeks to mine before the halving, and it still looks like it is going to be a long, long time before these ROI and that's without any electricity costs.  I have one underclocked and the other setup to underclock for 6 hours a day and then do stock clock for the other 18 hours.  Based on what others have said about failure rates this looks like a bigger gamble than I had anticipated.  

And what really sucks is that it comes on the heels of S7's that still haven't hit ROI with free electricity and decent resale price on two of them.  In about 2 months I should hit an overall break-even on the S7's since I still have an early batch unit mining at an average 5.02 Th/s but if not for the resale prices those things would have been a loss for sure.  Wondering if the S9's might be better sold at this point rather than gamble on them lasting long enough to get my BTC back.

you should check out zpool.. it pays out almost as much as prehalving bitcoin.. its also not effected by bitcoin difficulty..

According to the zpool site it returns 0.0018 per THs. Not clear if that's before or after the 2% fee.

That's a 45% increase over straight BTC mining with a 2% fee and 100% luck.

Are you mining there and really seeing these numbers?

yes, its kind of picky about how you setup your miners tho.. check the zpool thread in the mining altcoin section.

i have 2 s7s, underclocked to 525 @ 3500 ghs (7000 ghs total) and i make around .01 to .012 a day in bitcoin.
keep in mind that value fluctuates on current market price of the coins being mined.. you can check the daily running stats on https://poolpicker.eu/table?algo=sha-256

Thanks for getting back to me. That's very interesting.

But you're not running any S9's against zpool. I seem to remember someone indicating earlier in this thread that S9s did not work well with alts. Not sure if I'm misremembering or not.

And of course since Bitmain hasn't provided the sources to their modified miner, it can't be reviewed.

Anyone out there using S9s successfully with zpool?

I just attempted to with one of my S9's it didn't work for me.

[aarons6]

Since the halving these things are not earning very much at all.  I have 2 of them, one of them I got at under 3 BTC with a couple weeks to mine before the halving, and it still looks like it is going to be a long, long time before these ROI and that's without any electricity costs.  I have one underclocked and the other setup to underclock for 6 hours a day and then do stock clock for the other 18 hours.  Based on what others have said about failure rates this looks like a bigger gamble than I had anticipated.  

And what really sucks is that it comes on the heels of S7's that still haven't hit ROI with free electricity and decent resale price on two of them.  In about 2 months I should hit an overall break-even on the S7's since I still have an early batch unit mining at an average 5.02 Th/s but if not for the resale prices those things would have been a loss for sure.  Wondering if the S9's might be better sold at this point rather than gamble on them lasting long enough to get my BTC back.

you should check out zpool.. it pays out almost as much as prehalving bitcoin.. its also not effected by bitcoin difficulty..

According to the zpool site it returns 0.0018 per THs. Not clear if that's before or after the 2% fee.

That's a 45% increase over straight BTC mining with a 2% fee and 100% luck.

Are you mining there and really seeing these numbers?

yes, its kind of picky about how you setup your miners tho.. check the zpool thread in the mining altcoin section.

i have 2 s7s, underclocked to 525 @ 3500 ghs (7000 ghs total) and i make around .01 to .012 a day in bitcoin.
keep in mind that value fluctuates on current market price of the coins being mined.. you can check the daily running stats on https://poolpicker.eu/table?algo=sha-256

Thanks for getting back to me. That's very interesting.

But you're not running any S9's against zpool. I seem to remember someone indicating earlier in this thread that S9s did not work well with alts. Not sure if I'm misremembering or not.

And of course since Bitmain hasn't provided the sources to their modified miner, it can't be reviewed.

Anyone out there using S9s successfully with zpool?

I just attempted to with one of my S9's it didn't work for me.

you probably have to use a proxy.

this is what i use
https://github.com/Stratehm/stratum-proxy

[notlist3d]

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Anyone out there using S9s successfully with zpool?

I just attempted to with one of my S9's it didn't work for me.

you probably have to use a proxy.

this is what i use
https://github.com/Stratehm/stratum-proxy

Shortened as so long but I just tried zpool and am having no issues mining direct to it.  Will test for 30 minutess or so and post a screenshot but right now it seems to work just a tad slower my batch one is getting: 13,797.82 but have only ran for 3 minutes.

So looking promising as far as running it.  Is zpool really paying that well?  

[Erumara]

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Anyone out there using S9s successfully with zpool?

I just attempted to with one of my S9's it didn't work for me.

you probably have to use a proxy.

this is what i use
https://github.com/Stratehm/stratum-proxy

Shortened as so long but I just tried zpool and am having no issues mining direct to it.  Will test for 30 minutess or so and post a screenshot but right now it seems to work just a tad slower my batch one is getting: 13,797.82 but have only ran for 3 minutes.

So looking promising as far as running it.  Is zpool really paying that well?  

With stratehm it is noticeably more stable for S7 and S9, the S9 is significantly better than the S7 and I have never had my batch 3 lock up. The servers are not tremendously stable so expect to get 0.0002-0.0003 lower payout than what is listed by way of failovers, but you'll still get some good profitability.

[notlist3d]

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Anyone out there using S9s successfully with zpool?

I just attempted to with one of my S9's it didn't work for me.

you probably have to use a proxy.

this is what i use
https://github.com/Stratehm/stratum-proxy

Shortened as so long but I just tried zpool and am having no issues mining direct to it.  Will test for 30 minutess or so and post a screenshot but right now it seems to work just a tad slower my batch one is getting: 13,797.82 but have only ran for 3 minutes.

So looking promising as far as running it.  Is zpool really paying that well?  

With stratehm it is noticeably more stable for S7 and S9, the S9 is significantly better than the S7 and I have never had my batch 3 lock up. The servers are not tremendously stable so expect to get 0.0002-0.0003 lower payout than what is listed by way of failovers, but you'll still get some good profitability.

Seems to be same results after 30 minute's.  No issues mining direct from a batch 1 S9.  Site is possibly slow though as in 30 minutes it show's hashrate much slower on zpool site.  Guess will see in a while if it catches up hopefully.:

I did lose a little hash compared to a normal pool (I've tested many on it).  Has anyone used this pool much is it really paying out so good consistently?

[Erumara]

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Anyone out there using S9s successfully with zpool?

I just attempted to with one of my S9's it didn't work for me.

you probably have to use a proxy.

this is what i use
https://github.com/Stratehm/stratum-proxy

Shortened as so long but I just tried zpool and am having no issues mining direct to it.  Will test for 30 minutess or so and post a screenshot but right now it seems to work just a tad slower my batch one is getting: 13,797.82 but have only ran for 3 minutes.

So looking promising as far as running it.  Is zpool really paying that well?  

With stratehm it is noticeably more stable for S7 and S9, the S9 is significantly better than the S7 and I have never had my batch 3 lock up. The servers are not tremendously stable so expect to get 0.0002-0.0003 lower payout than what is listed by way of failovers, but you'll still get some good profitability.

Seems to be same results after 30 minute's.  No issues mining direct from a batch 1 S9.  Site is possibly slow though as in 30 minutes it show's hashrate much slower on zpool site.  Guess will see in a while if it catches up hopefully.:

I did lose a little hash compared to a normal pool (I've tested many on it).  Has anyone used this pool much is it really paying out so good consistently?

You'll find my miners there when profitability  is doing well (>.0018), no complaints all around. You'll sometimes find profitability will get mis-reported a bit due to the exchanges they use, but it's never too bad.

[BITMAIN]

Dear Bitcoiners,

After an overwhelming number of queries asking about the next S9 batch, we are happy to announce the release of two more limited-edition batches tomorrow (16 August 2016) at 23:00 (Beijing time, GMT+8).

Batch 10 and batch 11 can deliver a hashrate of 11.85TH/s and 12.93TH/s, respectively.

We suggest you confirm your order here (https://goo.gl/iVJKlC) for batch 10 or here (https://goo.gl/cP8UKA) for batch 11 while stock lasts.

Happy mining,

the Bitmain team

[gt_addict]

16th July??

That post is late then as we are a month past that date 

[BITMAIN]

16th July??

That post is late then as we are a month past that date 

Thank you for pointing out the error, has been changed to August.

[philipma1957]

16th July??

That post is late then as we are a month past that date  

Thank you for pointing out the error, has been changed to August.

batch 10 is sold out already?

[IconFirm]

Speaking of dates - what about this Bitmain??

S9's firmware package with bmminer's binary application file is in preparing, Need get some files from ALTERA FPGA's project. We will upload the sdk of S9 which can be used to create S9's firmware package. The estimation time is about next week.

Please feel free to contact us if there is any question.

Best regards,
Andy
Bitmain

I got a response back from their support department, looks like they should be uploading the S9 firmware SDK next week.

Too late.
They've exceeded the license requirements.

I have this tid bit of information about what they have done.
http://kano.is/BMMMP63278.pdf

I guess the fact that they have ignored a patent isn't unexpected ... though personally I'm certainly not a fan of patents

[BITMAIN]

16th July??

That post is late then as we are a month past that date  

Thank you for pointing out the error, has been changed to August.

batch 10 is sold out already?

It will be available after the scheduled time.

[IconFirm]

It will be available after the scheduled time.

What is the "scheduled" time now then - & how long after? It's been a month since the last "scheduled" time frame passed.

[talks_cheep]

@Bitmain,

Take your shitty S9 and shove it back up your arse!

Only fools buy S9 at such inflated price. Stop buying their crappy miners, S9 design is junk, 20% arrived dead, Bitmain warranty is a joke.

Boycott Bitmain!

[edonkey]

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Anyone out there using S9s successfully with zpool?

I just attempted to with one of my S9's it didn't work for me.

you probably have to use a proxy.

this is what i use
https://github.com/Stratehm/stratum-proxy

Shortened as so long but I just tried zpool and am having no issues mining direct to it.  Will test for 30 minutess or so and post a screenshot but right now it seems to work just a tad slower my batch one is getting: 13,797.82 but have only ran for 3 minutes.

So looking promising as far as running it.  Is zpool really paying that well?  

With stratehm it is noticeably more stable for S7 and S9, the S9 is significantly better than the S7 and I have never had my batch 3 lock up. The servers are not tremendously stable so expect to get 0.0002-0.0003 lower payout than what is listed by way of failovers, but you'll still get some good profitability.

Seems to be same results after 30 minute's.  No issues mining direct from a batch 1 S9.  Site is possibly slow though as in 30 minutes it show's hashrate much slower on zpool site.  Guess will see in a while if it catches up hopefully.:

I did lose a little hash compared to a normal pool (I've tested many on it).  Has anyone used this pool much is it really paying out so good consistently?

You'll find my miners there when profitability  is doing well (>.0018), no complaints all around. You'll sometimes find profitability will get mis-reported a bit due to the exchanges they use, but it's never too bad.

For those of you who have gotten your S9s to work with stratehm and/or zpool, did you update your firmware?

I'm running a stock batch 3 without any firmware update. I tried deploying the stratehm proxy, but the S9 doesn't submit any shares to it. I posted about it in the stratehm thread here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=611338.msg15925543#msg15925543

I'm trying to decide if it's worth updating the firmware and trying again. I tend to avoid firmware updates unless I really have to.

[AriesIV10]

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Anyone out there using S9s successfully with zpool?

I just attempted to with one of my S9's it didn't work for me.

you probably have to use a proxy.

this is what i use
https://github.com/Stratehm/stratum-proxy

Shortened as so long but I just tried zpool and am having no issues mining direct to it.  Will test for 30 minutess or so and post a screenshot but right now it seems to work just a tad slower my batch one is getting: 13,797.82 but have only ran for 3 minutes.

So looking promising as far as running it.  Is zpool really paying that well?  

With stratehm it is noticeably more stable for S7 and S9, the S9 is significantly better than the S7 and I have never had my batch 3 lock up. The servers are not tremendously stable so expect to get 0.0002-0.0003 lower payout than what is listed by way of failovers, but you'll still get some good profitability.

Seems to be same results after 30 minute's.  No issues mining direct from a batch 1 S9.  Site is possibly slow though as in 30 minutes it show's hashrate much slower on zpool site.  Guess will see in a while if it catches up hopefully.:

I did lose a little hash compared to a normal pool (I've tested many on it).  Has anyone used this pool much is it really paying out so good consistently?

You'll find my miners there when profitability  is doing well (>.0018), no complaints all around. You'll sometimes find profitability will get mis-reported a bit due to the exchanges they use, but it's never too bad.

For those of you who have gotten your S9s to work with stratehm and/or zpool, did you update your firmware?

I'm running a stock batch 3 without any firmware update. I tried deploying the stratehm proxy, but the S9 doesn't submit any shares to it. I posted about it in the stratehm thread here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=611338.msg15925543#msg15925543

I'm trying to decide if it's worth updating the firmware and trying again. I tend to avoid firmware updates unless I really have to.

I have 10 S9s (B1, B3 and B5s).  I only updated the firmware on the 2 that were underperforming with the firmware for "low voltage."  The other ones

[edonkey]

I tried updating my B3 S9 with this firmware (the latest matching one for my unit):

Antminer-S9-201607131442-12.92T-600M-security.tar.gz

Unfortunately it has not come back after rebooting.

Note that I did this remotely because the unit is in a data center. I can power cycle it via the PDU, but I'm a bit scared to do that given all the warnings about not losing power while upgrading.

I guess I'll wait 10 minutes, pray, then power cycle it. Crap...