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Author Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order  (Read 530815 times)
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August 16, 2016, 07:32:49 AM
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Those prices are stupid. After all this waiting I think I'm going to invest my 6 grand in something else. Such a disappointment...

Agreed that the prices are too high.  It also looks like they are pushing people to buy the lower hashrate unit for whatever reason.  The lower hashrate one is 4.8Th/BTC while the higher hashrate one is 4Th/BTC.  That's a large difference in terms of which is more economical.

EDIT: I guess I should say though that I prefer the prices being too high to being too low.  The price drop on the S7's was faster than the earnings from mining so that later buyers were rewarded for not buying earlier.  I am actually glad to not see that happening with the S9's so far.

They are pushing the lower hash rate units to the end users because Bitmain is filling their farm with the good full hash rate units and also taking the full hash rate models and shipping them to their large customers .... We the little miners, we get the scraps... the QC failed units.

I'm pretty much done mining BTC with the S7's till I get solar panels... till then, I'm cranking up GPU mining on Ethereum and Dash

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August 16, 2016, 11:56:39 AM
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Those prices are stupid. After all this waiting I think I'm going to invest my 6 grand in something else. Such a disappointment...

Agreed that the prices are too high.  It also looks like they are pushing people to buy the lower hashrate unit for whatever reason.  The lower hashrate one is 4.8Th/BTC while the higher hashrate one is 4Th/BTC.  That's a large difference in terms of which is more economical.

EDIT: I guess I should say though that I prefer the prices being too high to being too low.  The price drop on the S7's was faster than the earnings from mining so that later buyers were rewarded for not buying earlier.  I am actually glad to not see that happening with the S9's so far.

They are pushing the lower hash rate units to the end users because Bitmain is filling their farm with the good full hash rate units and also taking the full hash rate models and shipping them to their large customers .... We the little miners, we get the scraps... the QC failed units.

I'm pretty much done mining BTC with the S7's till I get solar panels... till then, I'm cranking up GPU mining on Ethereum and Dash

Well they haven't even gone on sale yet and the price on the high hash units was dropped by a good margin so they are both close to 4.8Th/BTC now. (Although the lower hashing unit is still slightly more economical.)
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August 16, 2016, 12:03:40 PM
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price was dropped from 1700 to 1550  not sure what to do as I have cheap power in the solar array.

It looks more and more like the 900ph of s-7's and avalon 6s  are in trouble as viable miners.





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August 16, 2016, 12:17:36 PM
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i hate to tell all the early s9 adopters i told ya so....but i told ya so.

now onto the batch 10 listing....did you guys notice it said sold out at $1400?? while the other listing said up coming at a set btc amount?? i know this was mentioned before buy the guy above but to me it looks like bitmain provided the batch 10 link to some customers and sold them in bulk to them at $1400 each and they are reusing the listing for us after everyone already purchased their fill. the batch 12 looks like a new listing though because it has the same pricing model as the first few batches of s9's where they charged a set btc amount so maybe thats the pricing scheme by default. but if the batch 10 wasnt a recycled listing i doubt it would say "sold out" and ould say "up coming" but since it doesnt it makes me think it was a recycled listing. cant prove it but what do you guys think??

they sold s9's to early dedicated adopters at 21-2300 bucks a pop and now people like me that waited patiently for better numbers can now get them for 1400-$1550 each plus shipping with roi numbers that surpass the first set of batches numbers.....if only they listened to me and the few others that warned buying now was a mistake....they just wanted to make as much as they can before the halving praying on people that didnt know ne better.
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August 16, 2016, 12:52:16 PM
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 Huh
So where are you folks finding these pages with s9's batch 10 or 11? I usually check Bitmain a couple times a day and for s9's so far only see the gray link batch9....

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August 16, 2016, 01:04:15 PM
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Huh
So where are you folks finding these pages with s9's batch 10 or 11? I usually check Bitmain a couple times a day and for s9's so far only see the gray link batch9....

links to follow

here they are:




Dear Bitcoiners,

After an overwhelming number of queries asking about the next S9 batch, we are happy to announce the release of two more limited-edition batches tomorrow (16 August 2016) at 23:00 (Beijing time, GMT+8).

Batch 10 and batch 11 can deliver a hashrate of 11.85TH/s and 12.93TH/s, respectively.

We suggest you confirm your order here (https://goo.gl/iVJKlC) for batch 10 or here (https://goo.gl/cP8UKA) for batch 11 while stock lasts.

Happy mining,

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August 16, 2016, 01:08:33 PM
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Huh
So where are you folks finding these pages with s9's batch 10 or 11? I usually check Bitmain a couple times a day and for s9's so far only see the gray link batch9....


Same here, only seeing "Sold Out" S9 Batch 9
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August 16, 2016, 01:18:40 PM
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Huh
So where are you folks finding these pages with s9's batch 10 or 11? I usually check Bitmain a couple times a day and for s9's so far only see the gray link batch9....

links to follow

here they are:

Dear Bitcoiners,

After an overwhelming number of queries asking about the next S9 batch, we are happy to announce the release of two more limited-edition batches tomorrow (16 August 2016) at 23:00 (Beijing time, GMT+8).

Batch 10 and batch 11 can deliver a hashrate of 11.85TH/s and 12.93TH/s, respectively.

We suggest you confirm your order here (https://goo.gl/iVJKlC) for batch 10 or here (https://goo.gl/cP8UKA) for batch 11 while stock lasts.

Happy mining,

the Bitmain team

Well hell, both sold out already  Cry
Guess I'm going to have to peruse this thread more often to catch when they announce batches vs checking their web site...

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August 16, 2016, 01:21:02 PM
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Huh
So where are you folks finding these pages with s9's batch 10 or 11? I usually check Bitmain a couple times a day and for s9's so far only see the gray link batch9....

links to follow

here they are:

Dear Bitcoiners,

After an overwhelming number of queries asking about the next S9 batch, we are happy to announce the release of two more limited-edition batches tomorrow (16 August 2016) at 23:00 (Beijing time, GMT+8).

Batch 10 and batch 11 can deliver a hashrate of 11.85TH/s and 12.93TH/s, respectively.

We suggest you confirm your order here (https://goo.gl/iVJKlC) for batch 10 or here (https://goo.gl/cP8UKA) for batch 11 while stock lasts.

Happy mining,

the Bitmain team

Well hell, both sold out already  Cry

no  they never open they just read sold out.  read bitmain's response to me on bottom of this post

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1493601.msg15928762#msg15928762

look at their main hold address
https://blockchain.info/address/1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V


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August 16, 2016, 01:22:47 PM
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no  they never open they just read sold out.
Well THAT makes sense....
Somewhere  Roll Eyes

edit: Ah. Chinglish That is their version of a upcoming release date. In this case, after the 16th.

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no  they never open they just read sold out.
Well THAT makes sense....
Somewhere  Roll Eyes

this is their main coin address

https://blockchain.info/address/1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V

it has almost no funds deposited over the last 2 days  so sales have not started

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Why are the links not on their official website? How do we know this legit? Or will it be placed on the official website soon?

Furthermore, in case it's legit, is the possibility to select units greyed out, because the units are already sold out, or is it because the option to select units is not available yet?
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Why are the links not on their official website? How do we know this legit? Or will it be placed on the official website soon?

Furthermore, in case it's legit, is the possibility to select units greyed out, because the units are already sold out, or is it because the option to select units is not available yet?

The answers are already in the thread.

But yes, legit, released here first for us nice forum types, and they are greyed out because they are not available till 11pm Beijing time.

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i hate to tell all the early s9 adopters i told ya so....but i told ya so.

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they sold s9's to early dedicated adopters at 21-2300 bucks a pop and now people like me that waited patiently for better numbers can now get them for 1400-$1550 each plus shipping with roi numbers that surpass the first set of batches numbers.....if only they listened to me and the few others that warned buying now was a mistake....they just wanted to make as much as they can before the halving praying on people that didnt know ne better.

I paid for 2 x ANTMINER S9 First Batch - Shipping starts from 12 June × 2

4200 USD + shipping 110.66  USD Total 4310.66 USD  for 2 X S9    It was about a 4 BTC  piece  ( 2156 USD )

I paid with US dollars

Today i can buy less THs for  1550 USD  but still 2.729 BTC with moment rate.

When I sold the last time BTC, then the rate was 1 BTC=670 euro.

So the price today for me is still over 1800 EURO per miner + shipping if I pay with BTC, what  I can sell later at a higher price.


For Batch1 S9 i paid 200 euro more.

Two-month mining profit is greater than 200 euro.  So I do not see Batch1 early adopters losses.

I already bought today 8 BTC to buy miners, but  probably is a better option  today not  to buy miners and hold BTC.

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i hate to tell all the early s9 adopters i told ya so....but i told ya so.

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they sold s9's to early dedicated adopters at 21-2300 bucks a pop and now people like me that waited patiently for better numbers can now get them for 1400-$1550 each plus shipping with roi numbers that surpass the first set of batches numbers.....if only they listened to me and the few others that warned buying now was a mistake....they just wanted to make as much as they can before the halving praying on people that didnt know ne better.

I paid for 2 x ANTMINER S9 First Batch - Shipping starts from 12 June × 2

4200 USD + shipping 110.66  USD Total 4310.66 USD  for 2 X S9    It was about a 4 BTC  piece  ( 2156 USD )

I paid with US dollars

Today i can buy less THs for  1550 USD  but still 2.729 BTC with moment rate.

When I sold the last time BTC, then the rate was 1 BTC=670 euro.

So the price today for me is still over 1800 EURO per miner + shipping if I pay with BTC, what  I can sell later at a higher price.


For Batch1 S9 i paid 200 euro more.

Two-month mining profit is greater than 200 euro.  So I do not see Batch1 early adopters losses.

I already bought today 8 BTC to buy miners, but  probably is a better option  today not  to buy miners and hold BTC.



im confused about your numbers....at the top you total dont include import taxes for the miner it seems. at the bottom you show prices that seem to include import taxes....sorta like your making your nurs look better then they really are. also the price ofbtc hasnt been 670 euros since june 19th which is fell sharply soon after that....like next day soon lol. that means you only mined at these numbers for a couple of days at most before the fall but thats if the miners arrived on time which im sure you did get a few solid days of mining. another thing i didnt see were costs for repairs...was it you that had issues with boards not working? if so the speed and or cost of sending the board/boards back should also be factored into your above numbers.

yes the first batch is a little fast but many of the people running them underclocked them because they were highly unstable at those speeds and if you got yours to run at full speed great but u would be one of the only people to actually pull that off so im not sure i see that being likely but more power to you. i also didnt factor in the cost of your power....how much do u pay per kwh??

anyone that paid before the halving got screwed. unless you have free power....free rent....free internet....live in ur moms basement....free import taxes (no one has this)....and any number of other highly unlikely things (but not imposible but i doubt everything applies to you) with ur setup the roi dates didnt make it worth it not to mention the price of btc went DOWN making the roi dates even further down the line then they were before. i think if ur gonna post numbers they should be the same one accross the board not ones missing key info at the top and ones that include key info at the bottom. key info being import taxes. keep all prices in one currency too. dont start with usd at the top and finish with euros at the bottom to fudge the numbers a bit. if you want to do the prices in euros do it in euros and same goes for usd just dont mix in a little of both.
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They are for SALE on the website!

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i hate to tell all the early s9 adopters i told ya so....but i told ya so.

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they sold s9's to early dedicated adopters at 21-2300 bucks a pop and now people like me that waited patiently for better numbers can now get them for 1400-$1550 each plus shipping with roi numbers that surpass the first set of batches numbers.....if only they listened to me and the few others that warned buying now was a mistake....they just wanted to make as much as they can before the halving praying on people that didnt know ne better.

I paid for 2 x ANTMINER S9 First Batch - Shipping starts from 12 June × 2

4200 USD + shipping 110.66  USD Total 4310.66 USD  for 2 X S9    It was about a 4 BTC  piece  ( 2156 USD )

I paid with US dollars

Today i can buy less THs for  1550 USD  but still 2.729 BTC with moment rate.

When I sold the last time BTC, then the rate was 1 BTC=670 euro.

So the price today for me is still over 1800 EURO per miner + shipping if I pay with BTC, what  I can sell later at a higher price.


For Batch1 S9 i paid 200 euro more.

Two-month mining profit is greater than 200 euro.  So I do not see Batch1 early adopters losses.

I already bought today 8 BTC to buy miners, but  probably is a better option  today not  to buy miners and hold BTC.



im confused about your numbers....at the top you total dont include import taxes for the miner it seems. at the bottom you show prices that seem to include import taxes....sorta like your making your nurs look better then they really are. also the price ofbtc hasnt been 670 euros since june 19th which is fell sharply soon after that....like next day soon lol. that means you only mined at these numbers for a couple of days at most before the fall but thats if the miners arrived on time which im sure you did get a few solid days of mining. another thing i didnt see were costs for repairs...was it you that had issues with boards not working? if so the speed and or cost of sending the board/boards back should also be factored into your above numbers.

yes the first batch is a little fast but many of the people running them underclocked them because they were highly unstable at those speeds and if you got yours to run at full speed great but u would be one of the only people to actually pull that off so im not sure i see that being likely but more power to you. i also didnt factor in the cost of your power....how much do u pay per kwh??

anyone that paid before the halving got screwed. unless you have free power....free rent....free internet....live in ur moms basement....free import taxes (no one has this)....and any number of other highly unlikely things (but not imposible but i doubt everything applies to you) with ur setup the roi dates didnt make it worth it not to mention the price of btc went DOWN making the roi dates even further down the line then they were before. i think if ur gonna post numbers they should be the same one accross the board not ones missing key info at the top and ones that include key info at the bottom. key info being import taxes. keep all prices in one currency too. dont start with usd at the top and finish with euros at the bottom to fudge the numbers a bit. if you want to do the prices in euros do it in euros and same goes for usd just dont mix in a little of both.
 if I do all usd  I was not screwed  with early buys.

I paid  2170 x 2 = 4240 + 80 in import = 4320    for 2 machines that mine at 13th each.

So the new gear is 3203 + ? in import = 3270    for 2 machines that mine at 12.93 each maybe   so  did I earn  1050  with my 2 batch 1's

  Lets check math on this.  give me some time.  my records show they arrived on june 14

 so june 14 to june 21   7 days at diff of 196  I earned .4661 btc
june 21 to  july 4         13 days at diff of 209 I earned .8118 btc
July 4   to july 10          6 days at diff of 213 I earned  .3676 btc

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July 10 to  July 18       8 days at diff of 213 I earned  .24512 btc
July 18 to Aug  2        15 days at diff of 213 I earned .45960 btc
Aug 2 to   Aug 15       13  days at diff of 201 I earned .42211btc

so 2.77233 btc  earned x 576 = 1596 usd    so  I needed to earn 1050  I earned 1596

so 546 ahead  without power factored in.

so 2 machines = 2700 watts so 2.7 x 24 = 65 kilo-watts a day  June 14 to Aug 16 = 63 days

63 x 65 = 4095 kilowatts  so  in my case the solar array is cheap  say 4-5 cents  so 5 x 4095 = 204.75 in power

596- 205 = 291 better off  batch 1.  if your power was 5 cents.  if you mined kano.is x that by 1.05 = 305.5 better off at 5 cent power

use 10 cent power

596 - 410 =  186 better off batch 1 if your power was 10 cents. if you mined kano.is x that by 1.05 = 195.3 better off at 10 cent power.


Furthermore I did to aug 16 today.  the reality is   if you buy batch 12 today  it takes  3 to 6 days to show  so you would be earning more money.

So a batch 1 early buyer  was better off then buying batch 12  and or batch 10

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i hate to tell all the early s9 adopters i told ya so....but i told ya so.

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they sold s9's to early dedicated adopters at 21-2300 bucks a pop and now people like me that waited patiently for better numbers can now get them for 1400-$1550 each plus shipping with roi numbers that surpass the first set of batches numbers.....if only they listened to me and the few others that warned buying now was a mistake....they just wanted to make as much as they can before the halving praying on people that didnt know ne better.

I paid for 2 x ANTMINER S9 First Batch - Shipping starts from 12 June × 2

4200 USD + shipping 110.66  USD Total 4310.66 USD  for 2 X S9    It was about a 4 BTC  piece  ( 2156 USD )

I paid with US dollars

Today i can buy less THs for  1550 USD  but still 2.729 BTC with moment rate.

When I sold the last time BTC, then the rate was 1 BTC=670 euro.

So the price today for me is still over 1800 EURO per miner + shipping if I pay with BTC, what  I can sell later at a higher price.


For Batch1 S9 i paid 200 euro more.

Two-month mining profit is greater than 200 euro.  So I do not see Batch1 early adopters losses.

I already bought today 8 BTC to buy miners, but  probably is a better option  today not  to buy miners and hold BTC.



im confused about your numbers....at the top you total dont include import taxes for the miner it seems. at the bottom you show prices that seem to include import taxes....sorta like your making your nurs look better then they really are. also the price ofbtc hasnt been 670 euros since june 19th which is fell sharply soon after that....like next day soon lol. that means you only mined at these numbers for a couple of days at most before the fall but thats if the miners arrived on time which im sure you did get a few solid days of mining. another thing i didnt see were costs for repairs...was it you that had issues with boards not working? if so the speed and or cost of sending the board/boards back should also be factored into your above numbers.

yes the first batch is a little fast but many of the people running them underclocked them because they were highly unstable at those speeds and if you got yours to run at full speed great but u would be one of the only people to actually pull that off so im not sure i see that being likely but more power to you. i also didnt factor in the cost of your power....how much do u pay per kwh??

anyone that paid before the halving got screwed. unless you have free power....free rent....free internet....live in ur moms basement....free import taxes (no one has this)....and any number of other highly unlikely things (but not imposible but i doubt everything applies to you) with ur setup the roi dates didnt make it worth it not to mention the price of btc went DOWN making the roi dates even further down the line then they were before. i think if ur gonna post numbers they should be the same one accross the board not ones missing key info at the top and ones that include key info at the bottom. key info being import taxes. keep all prices in one currency too. dont start with usd at the top and finish with euros at the bottom to fudge the numbers a bit. if you want to do the prices in euros do it in euros and same goes for usd just dont mix in a little of both.
 if I do all usd  I was not screwed  with early buys.

I paid  2170 x 2 = 4240 + 80 in import = 4320    for 2 machines that mine at 13th each.

So the new gear is 3203 + ? in import = 3270    for 2 machines that mine at 12.93 each maybe   so  did I earn  1050  with my 2 batch 1's

  Lets check math on this.  give me some time.  my records show they arrived on june 14

this is the beginning of how it should be laid out! i dont mind bein wrong at all but if someone is gonna prove me wrong they should do everything in the right order.

now dont forget to factor in electricity and any decreases in speed when mining during the day since some people like slowin their miners down during the day in the summer. i dont do all that because i have dedicated ac units with free power but not everyone has that setup.

also is the 2170 including shipping as well? i believe shipping is $60 all around per miner which is separate from the import taxes of course.
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August 16, 2016, 03:44:39 PM
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WOW!

Looks like the Antminer S9 Batch 11 is sold out ALREADY!

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WOW!

Looks like the Antminer S9 Batch 11 is sold out ALREADY!

well that was fast...
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