Do you believe in god?

[Holdaaja]

You are asking him to rebut proof of that god exists? That is bit too much to ask when there is no proof of that in the first place

[kodoll]

You are asking him to rebut proof of that god exists? That is bit too much to ask when there is no proof of that in the first place

For me is proof that there is no God what the Bible says is only lies. On the background of the existing area of the Bible wrote stories about the fact that there never was. Is this not proof that there is no God.

[BADecker]

Yes, I do believe that there is a God. We may not si Him but he is always in our presence, our faith will help us discover more things about Him. We cannot exist out of nothing, only a Supreme Being is capable of creating us and that is God.

Can you ask your Supreme Being to post here?  

If he is not too busy creating crippled babies of course.  We don't want him to stop doing the Godly things he has been doing...LOL

God posted a whole lot of stuff in the Bible. Since you don't believe it, why should He waste His time posting something else, here, just for you, when you aren't going to believe it anyway?

Stop making excuses for your imaginary friend.

Be glad that God hides Himself from you. He does it to give you a chance to live long enough to come to believe in Him. If you don't do it soon, He will reveal Himself to you... and you won't like it. Why won't you like it? It will be in the judgment after your death, and you will wish you had believed the evidence and proof of His existence, because you won't have a chance to change your mind, then.

LOL.  Is he 3?  Playing peekaboo...?

You know, scientists estimated that it takes about 2 years to de-program someone who believes in Astrology.  Your case might take decades, or maybe you are a lost cause.

So believe whatever you want.  Just don't hurt anyone.

You poor baby. You haven't been able to more than begin to rebut the proof that God exists. So, you do the only thing you can. You simply spout a bunch of blather.

However, even though God doesn't give you any credit for this, I kinda do. The more you talk without rebutting the proof that God exists, the more you strengthen the proof in the minds of the readers. So, thanks for the help.

I don't think so. The more you raise the topic of evidence for God's existence, the more people will think about the fact that there is no evidence. Accordingly, the less will be the supporters of different religions.

You are asking him to rebut proof of that god exists? That is bit too much to ask when there is no proof of that in the first place

The proof and the evidence is explained here;
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Are you joining the others in not being able to rebut the proof?

Perhaps you can't even understand the proof. Just the same, not being able to rebut, makes the proof stand more firmly.

[BADecker]

You are asking him to rebut proof of that god exists? That is bit too much to ask when there is no proof of that in the first place

For me is proof that there is no God what the Bible says is only lies. On the background of the existing area of the Bible wrote stories about the fact that there never was. Is this not proof that there is no God.

So, forget about the Bible for a minute. Look at the scientific proof that God exists. Once you understand that God exists, then you can start to look for religious info about Him if you want.

The proof and evidence:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

[Holdaaja]

You are asking him to rebut proof of that god exists? That is bit too much to ask when there is no proof of that in the first place

For me is proof that there is no God what the Bible says is only lies. On the background of the existing area of the Bible wrote stories about the fact that there never was. Is this not proof that there is no God.

So, forget about the Bible for a minute. Look at the scientific proof that God exists. Once you understand that God exists, then you can start to look for religious info about Him if you want.

The proof and evidence:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

I remember that you have admitted that you can't prove god exist and it is all about faith.
Do I remember incorrectly or is your trolling just starting to fall apart?

[af_newbie]

You are asking him to rebut proof of that god exists? That is bit too much to ask when there is no proof of that in the first place

For me is proof that there is no God what the Bible says is only lies. On the background of the existing area of the Bible wrote stories about the fact that there never was. Is this not proof that there is no God.

So, forget about the Bible for a minute. Look at the scientific proof that God exists. Once you understand that God exists, then you can start to look for religious info about Him if you want.

The proof and evidence:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Thermodynamics 2nd law applies to an isolated system.
Earth is not an isolated system.
Entropy is not the same as complexity.
If you use cause and effect argument, you need to provide a cause for God.  God needs a cause or your argument is invalidated.

You got anything else?

Your God is really the 'unknown'.  It is definitely not a blond haired, blue eyed, English speaking Jew.

You would not have to 'believe' in something if there was a proof.

[stats]

You are asking him to rebut proof of that god exists? That is bit too much to ask when there is no proof of that in the first place

For me is proof that there is no God what the Bible says is only lies. On the background of the existing area of the Bible wrote stories about the fact that there never was. Is this not proof that there is no God.

So, forget about the Bible for a minute. Look at the scientific proof that God exists. Once you understand that God exists, then you can start to look for religious info about Him if you want.

The proof and evidence:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Thermodynamics 2nd law applies to an isolated system.
Earth is not an isolated system.
Entropy is not the same as complexity.
If you use cause and effect argument, you need to provide a cause for God.  God needs a cause or your argument is invalidated.

You got anything else?

Your God is really the 'unknown'.  It is definitely not a blond haired, blue eyed, English speaking Jew.

You would not have to 'believe' in something if there was a proof.

@BADecker

Do you believe in the existence of Thor, Odin, Buddah, Allah or any of the other Gods?

If not... why not?

If you do, then that goes against your religious teachings!

[dirokkl]

You are asking him to rebut proof of that god exists? That is bit too much to ask when there is no proof of that in the first place

For me is proof that there is no God what the Bible says is only lies. On the background of the existing area of the Bible wrote stories about the fact that there never was. Is this not proof that there is no God.

So, forget about the Bible for a minute. Look at the scientific proof that God exists. Once you understand that God exists, then you can start to look for religious info about Him if you want.

The proof and evidence:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Thermodynamics 2nd law applies to an isolated system.
Earth is not an isolated system.
Entropy is not the same as complexity.
If you use cause and effect argument, you need to provide a cause for God.  God needs a cause or your argument is invalidated.

You got anything else?

Your God is really the 'unknown'.  It is definitely not a blond haired, blue eyed, English speaking Jew.

You would not have to 'believe' in something if there was a proof.

@BADecker

Do you believe in the existence of Thor, Odin, Buddah, Allah or any of the other Gods?

If not... why not?

If you do, then that goes against your religious teachings!

It seems to me that you cannot force a person to believe that it is not possible to prove. The majority of people just pretends to believe in God. How else to explain the fact that no one performs the commandments.

[yrreg ger]

Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)

Yes,God is Real. The chances of all of this complex universe happening without the existence of an involved God who cares about his creation are less than a million billion to one.

[v1ryspro]

Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)

Yes,God is Real. The chances of all of this complex universe happening without the existence of an involved God who cares about his creation are less than a million billion to one.

No God is not real. I see not only confirmation of his existence, but rather see total chaos in the world due to the fact that the world no controls. I am sure that if God was he would not allow that now.

[allthingsluxury]

Why not? There isn't much risk in doing so. Hedge your bets I always say.

[BADecker]

Why not? There isn't much risk in doing so. Hedge your bets I always say.

And believe in ALL of them?

Imagine there were 5000 Gods that people believe or believed (I don't know the exact number, but let's say it is 5000).  

Most believers today believe in 1 God and don't believe in 4999 'other Gods'.

Atheists go one God further and don't believe in 5000.

Believers and atheists agree on the existence of 4999 Gods but disagree on one God.

No. Atheists simply express that they don't believe in God. Some attempt to not believe in God, and some of these magnify themselves into a god-position by doing so.

All people are mixed up in some things. Atheists are simply mixed up in who they are magnifying as God.

[BADecker]

Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)

Yes,God is Real. The chances of all of this complex universe happening without the existence of an involved God who cares about his creation are less than a million billion to one.

No God is not real. I see not only confirmation of his existence, but rather see total chaos in the world due to the fact that the world no controls. I am sure that if God was he would not allow that now.

Your ability to post in this forum shows that the chaos is extremely far from complete, and maybe doesn't really exist at all.

[BADecker]

You are asking him to rebut proof of that god exists? That is bit too much to ask when there is no proof of that in the first place

For me is proof that there is no God what the Bible says is only lies. On the background of the existing area of the Bible wrote stories about the fact that there never was. Is this not proof that there is no God.

So, forget about the Bible for a minute. Look at the scientific proof that God exists. Once you understand that God exists, then you can start to look for religious info about Him if you want.

The proof and evidence:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Thermodynamics 2nd law applies to an isolated system.
Earth is not an isolated system.
Entropy is not the same as complexity.
If you use cause and effect argument, you need to provide a cause for God.  God needs a cause or your argument is invalidated.

You got anything else?

Your God is really the 'unknown'.  It is definitely not a blond haired, blue eyed, English speaking Jew.

You would not have to 'believe' in something if there was a proof.

@BADecker

Do you believe in the existence of Thor, Odin, Buddah, Allah or any of the other Gods?

If not... why not?

If you do, then that goes against your religious teachings!

The guys magnified by the people way back then, into the gods you listed, are all dead.

[BADecker]

Why not? There isn't much risk in doing so. Hedge your bets I always say.

And believe in ALL of them?

Imagine there were 5000 Gods that people believe or believed (I don't know the exact number, but let's say it is 5000).  

Most believers today believe in 1 God and don't believe in 4999 'other Gods'.

Atheists go one God further and don't believe in 5000.

Believers and atheists agree on the existence of 4999 Gods but disagree on one God.

No. Atheists simply express that they don't believe in God. Some attempt to not believe in God, and some of these magnify themselves into a god-position by doing so.

All people are mixed up in some things. Atheists are simply mixed up in who they are magnifying as God.

You did not understand my post.  I said that YOU are an atheist when it comes to Zeus or Ra.  You don't believe these Gods exist, only your God is one true God, and you only believe in your God.

These "gods" that you mentioned were men/women at one time. They probably were intelligent and great leaders. The people magnified them into the position of gods. They may or may not have encouraged the people to do it. They died. What's there to believe in, their deaths?

[BADecker]

You are asking him to rebut proof of that god exists? That is bit too much to ask when there is no proof of that in the first place

For me is proof that there is no God what the Bible says is only lies. On the background of the existing area of the Bible wrote stories about the fact that there never was. Is this not proof that there is no God.

So, forget about the Bible for a minute. Look at the scientific proof that God exists. Once you understand that God exists, then you can start to look for religious info about Him if you want.

The proof and evidence:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

I remember that you have admitted that you can't prove god exist and it is all about faith.
Do I remember incorrectly or is your trolling just starting to fall apart?

My trolling is very accurate and right. What does my being able to prove, or not being able to prove, the existence of God, have to do with the fact that science has proven God to exist starting hundreds of years ago, via the things I talk about in my links?

[BADecker]

You are asking him to rebut proof of that god exists? That is bit too much to ask when there is no proof of that in the first place

For me is proof that there is no God what the Bible says is only lies. On the background of the existing area of the Bible wrote stories about the fact that there never was. Is this not proof that there is no God.

So, forget about the Bible for a minute. Look at the scientific proof that God exists. Once you understand that God exists, then you can start to look for religious info about Him if you want.

The proof and evidence:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Thermodynamics 2nd law applies to an isolated system.
Earth is not an isolated system. - The universe is an isolated system.
Entropy is not the same as complexity. - Entropy and complexity are in opposite categories.
If you use cause and effect argument, you need to provide a cause for God.  God needs a cause or your argument is invalidated. - God, being outside of the universe, is not controlled by the laws of the universe, except if His laws state such. God does not necessarily need to have a cause.

You got anything else? - same stuff, that you continue to talk around rather than rebutting:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Your God is really the 'unknown'.  It is definitely not a blond haired, blue eyed, English speaking Jew. - Obviously God is unknown to or by you. However, as I have often posted, the scientific proof for God does not explain much about Him in detail. So, yes. He is mostly unknown by the proof for His existence. BTW, thanks for starting to admit that He exists.

You would not have to 'believe' in something if there was a proof.

I acknowledge God, in part because of the proofs that I have shown... He exists.

I believe in God, in part, because I believe the things that He has said in the Bible, His Word. Believing in God is like trusting in Him. You can't believe or trust in something that you won't acknowledge the existence of.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to clarify and strengthen the knowledge that God exists, again, by your not being able to rebut it.

[BADecker]

You are asking him to rebut proof of that god exists? That is bit too much to ask when there is no proof of that in the first place

For me is proof that there is no God what the Bible says is only lies. On the background of the existing area of the Bible wrote stories about the fact that there never was. Is this not proof that there is no God.

So, forget about the Bible for a minute. Look at the scientific proof that God exists. Once you understand that God exists, then you can start to look for religious info about Him if you want.

The proof and evidence:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Thermodynamics 2nd law applies to an isolated system.
Earth is not an isolated system. - The universe is an isolated system.
Entropy is not the same as complexity. - Entropy and complexity are in opposite categories.
If you use cause and effect argument, you need to provide a cause for God.  God needs a cause or your argument is invalidated. - God, being outside of the universe, is not controlled by the laws of the universe, except if His laws state such. God does not necessarily need to have a cause.

You got anything else? - same stuff, that you continue to talk around rather than rebutting:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Your God is really the 'unknown'.  It is definitely not a blond haired, blue eyed, English speaking Jew. - Obviously God is unknown to or by you. However, as I have often posted, the scientific proof for God does not explain much about Him in detail. So, yes. He is mostly unknown by the proof for His existence. BTW, thanks for starting to admit that He exists.

You would not have to 'believe' in something if there was a proof.

I acknowledge God, in part because of the proofs that I have shown... He exists.

I believe in God, in part, because I believe the things that He has said in the Bible, His Word. Believing in God is like trusting in Him. You can't believe or trust in something that you won't acknowledge the existence of.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to clarify and strengthen the knowledge that God exists, again, by your not being able to rebut it.

That is fine.  But remember...

1. Your proof does not proof the existence of God. - The proof I show is scientific proof, not my proof.
2. Bible is a collection of some vile, Bronze Age horseshit. - The Bible is the expression of correcting the corruption of mankind. You seem to be expressing a like for the corruption by talking against the Bible.

Anyway, it does not matter that you believe in nonsense.  It is your life, your choice.  Since science has proven that God exists, my beliefs are affect by my knowledge of God.

Just don't hurt others, don't rape anyone, don't scam people etc.

When you are a good guy by not raping, hurting others, or scamming people, you aren't good enough to get eternal life. You still need Jesus salvation. Do the thing that is important - believe in Jesus - or you will not only lose life, but will also gain Hellfire.

[BADecker]

You are asking him to rebut proof of that god exists? That is bit too much to ask when there is no proof of that in the first place

For me is proof that there is no God what the Bible says is only lies. On the background of the existing area of the Bible wrote stories about the fact that there never was. Is this not proof that there is no God.

So, forget about the Bible for a minute. Look at the scientific proof that God exists. Once you understand that God exists, then you can start to look for religious info about Him if you want.

The proof and evidence:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Thermodynamics 2nd law applies to an isolated system.
Earth is not an isolated system. - The universe is an isolated system.
Entropy is not the same as complexity. - Entropy and complexity are in opposite categories.
If you use cause and effect argument, you need to provide a cause for God.  God needs a cause or your argument is invalidated. - God, being outside of the universe, is not controlled by the laws of the universe, except if His laws state such. God does not necessarily need to have a cause.

You got anything else? - same stuff, that you continue to talk around rather than rebutting:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Your God is really the 'unknown'.  It is definitely not a blond haired, blue eyed, English speaking Jew. - Obviously God is unknown to or by you. However, as I have often posted, the scientific proof for God does not explain much about Him in detail. So, yes. He is mostly unknown by the proof for His existence. BTW, thanks for starting to admit that He exists.

You would not have to 'believe' in something if there was a proof.

I acknowledge God, in part because of the proofs that I have shown... He exists.

I believe in God, in part, because I believe the things that He has said in the Bible, His Word. Believing in God is like trusting in Him. You can't believe or trust in something that you won't acknowledge the existence of.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to clarify and strengthen the knowledge that God exists, again, by your not being able to rebut it.

That is fine.  But remember...

1. Your proof does not proof the existence of God. - The proof I show is scientific proof, not my proof.
2. Bible is a collection of some vile, Bronze Age horseshit. - The Bible is the expression of correcting the corruption of mankind. You seem to be expressing a like for the corruption by talking against the Bible.

Anyway, it does not matter that you believe in nonsense.  It is your life, your choice.  Since science has proven that God exists, my beliefs are affect by my knowledge of God.

Just don't hurt others, don't rape anyone, don't scam people etc.

When you are a good guy by not raping, hurting others, or scamming people, you aren't good enough to get eternal life. You still need Jesus salvation. Do the thing that is important - believe in Jesus - or you will not only lose life, but will also gain Hellfire.

You don't get it.  There is no afterlife.  Jesus is a myth.

Stop the nonsense.  Love other people, contribute to humanity. 

Stop wasting time on nonsense.  Live life, you got only one life, so enjoy it before it is too late.

No, it is you who just don't get it. Science proves God exists. And once you get to this scientific knowledge, then you can go the rest of the way, and prove the Bible is truth. Then you can believe the things about Jesus that God tells us in the Bible. But, you don't have to do any of this, right?

[Gimpeline]

You are asking him to rebut proof of that god exists? That is bit too much to ask when there is no proof of that in the first place

For me is proof that there is no God what the Bible says is only lies. On the background of the existing area of the Bible wrote stories about the fact that there never was. Is this not proof that there is no God.

So, forget about the Bible for a minute. Look at the scientific proof that God exists. Once you understand that God exists, then you can start to look for religious info about Him if you want.

The proof and evidence:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Thermodynamics 2nd law applies to an isolated system.
Earth is not an isolated system. - The universe is an isolated system.
Entropy is not the same as complexity. - Entropy and complexity are in opposite categories.
If you use cause and effect argument, you need to provide a cause for God.  God needs a cause or your argument is invalidated. - God, being outside of the universe, is not controlled by the laws of the universe, except if His laws state such. God does not necessarily need to have a cause.

You got anything else? - same stuff, that you continue to talk around rather than rebutting:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Your God is really the 'unknown'.  It is definitely not a blond haired, blue eyed, English speaking Jew. - Obviously God is unknown to or by you. However, as I have often posted, the scientific proof for God does not explain much about Him in detail. So, yes. He is mostly unknown by the proof for His existence. BTW, thanks for starting to admit that He exists.

You would not have to 'believe' in something if there was a proof.

I acknowledge God, in part because of the proofs that I have shown... He exists.

I believe in God, in part, because I believe the things that He has said in the Bible, His Word. Believing in God is like trusting in Him. You can't believe or trust in something that you won't acknowledge the existence of.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to clarify and strengthen the knowledge that God exists, again, by your not being able to rebut it.

That is fine.  But remember...

1. Your proof does not proof the existence of God. - The proof I show is scientific proof, not my proof.
2. Bible is a collection of some vile, Bronze Age horseshit. - The Bible is the expression of correcting the corruption of mankind. You seem to be expressing a like for the corruption by talking against the Bible.

Anyway, it does not matter that you believe in nonsense.  It is your life, your choice.  Since science has proven that God exists, my beliefs are affect by my knowledge of God.

Just don't hurt others, don't rape anyone, don't scam people etc.

When you are a good guy by not raping, hurting others, or scamming people, you aren't good enough to get eternal life. You still need Jesus salvation. Do the thing that is important - believe in Jesus - or you will not only lose life, but will also gain Hellfire.

You don't get it.  There is no afterlife.  Jesus is a myth.

Stop the nonsense.  Love other people, contribute to humanity. 

Stop wasting time on nonsense.  Live life, you got only one life, so enjoy it before it is too late.

No, it is you who just don't get it. Science proves God exists. And once you get to this scientific knowledge, then you can go the rest of the way, and prove the Bible is truth. Then you can believe the things about Jesus that God tells us in the Bible. But, you don't have to do any of this, right?

If science have proven it, then there should be a peer-rewied paper about it. There isn't.
repeating a lie dosent make it true.