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Author Topic: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments  (Read 1156712 times)
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July 08, 2018, 06:43:19 PM
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Hi, can somebody explain me what is this? I'm trying to send my blacbytes from freebee and getting this:


This error is explained in the wiki as ‘smart contract conditions not fulfilled’. So have a look at the smart payment freebe created in your wallet, something seems to be wrong there!

might be a suggestion for tony to make errors less programatic by nature and more human readable based on fail condition. would go a long way to increasing user friendliness. humans make a lot of mistakes at the best of times

That is true. Most programmers tend to focus on what happens when things go well, rather than when what happens when things go wrong. But Byteball has one of the best UIs amongst the various alts. There definitely is a focus on user-friendliness.


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July 09, 2018, 01:42:46 PM
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"Buy Bytes with Visa or Mastercard" is now updated and allows to buy Bytes even without real name attestation.  However, in this case there is no partial reimbursement of the (rather high) fees, and Indacoin will perform its own verification.

This update is useful for users who don't have Bytes even to pay for the attestation or just don't want their real name to be attested.

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July 09, 2018, 04:22:44 PM
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do I need a full backup to keep the real name bot stuff?

The PRIVATE KEY in my sig has been found. Rent a !
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July 09, 2018, 05:18:35 PM
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do I need a full backup to keep the real name bot stuff?

Yes

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July 09, 2018, 05:24:53 PM
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This is part of version 2.3 released today https://github.com/byteball/byteball/releases

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* Ability to sign arbitrary message to prove one's address.  The signer doesn't need to have any bytes.  The text to be signed is offered in chat, the signer clicks it and signs.

I added developer documentation about this feature https://github.com/byteball/byteballcore/wiki/Verifying-address-by-a-signed-message


Also, to help new developers get started with the bots, we added an example bot on github https://github.com/byteball/bot-example.  Developers can copy it and start adding their stuff.

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July 09, 2018, 07:40:43 PM
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do I need a full backup to keep the real name bot stuff?

Yes

thank you. and BTW
BTC bytes exchange bot works.
betting works
real name bot works
buy bytes via credit card works bot work
text coins are working

and now i am going to make more test with backbytes.

are these coins really untraceable?
do i just need a way to transfer the file to the recipient in a way that nobody can find out that i did it or is able to link it to me?


what i dont like is to wait for 6 minutes and no confirmation.

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July 09, 2018, 07:54:01 PM
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an i have a security concern with backbytes.

it could be a problem that it is possible the see if a blackbyte messages has been claimed or not. if somebody is able to find out at which time i claim the coins this could be a problem. this could be find out be just waiting and checking the status.
this is to much information for people that want the maximum possible security.

The PRIVATE KEY in my sig has been found. Rent a !
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July 09, 2018, 11:25:57 PM
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an i have a security concern with backbytes.

it could be a problem that it is possible the see if a blackbyte messages has been claimed or not. if somebody is able to find out at which time i claim the coins this could be a problem. this could be find out be just waiting and checking the status.
this is to much information for people that want the maximum possible security.


blackbytes are sent as digital files p2p. its not possible to check if claimed or not
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July 09, 2018, 11:31:24 PM
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Smart contract anonymous sports betting tool BB Odds https://bb-odds.herokuapp.com/ reviewed by Milan Horvath, Byteball Community Manager.

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July 10, 2018, 03:15:46 PM
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Smart contract anonymous sports betting tool BB Odds https://bb-odds.herokuapp.com/ reviewed by Milan Horvath, Byteball Community Manager.

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I staked 50MB for France winning. Let's see how this plays out!

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July 10, 2018, 04:25:16 PM
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an i have a security concern with backbytes.

it could be a problem that it is possible the see if a blackbyte messages has been claimed or not. if somebody is able to find out at which time i claim the coins this could be a problem. this could be find out be just waiting and checking the status.
this is to much information for people that want the maximum possible security.


blackbytes are sent as digital files p2p. its not possible to check if claimed or not

thats not true. i sent backbytes between my devices /wallets and i could see if it was claimed or not.

that why I think it is a security breach. too much metadata is visible.

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July 10, 2018, 04:28:11 PM
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thats not true. i sent backbytes between my devices /wallets and i could see if it was claimed or not.
Of course you can see that, but that's also all you can see. The DAG only stores a hash that stops you from sending the same Blackbytes again.
You may be interested in this: Byteball: Blackbytes FAQ.

@ChainSmoker
Think of Blackbytes as a post-it handed to you by the previous owner. The post-it says: "ChainSmoker is now the new owner". Together with handing you the post-it, the DAG registers that the previous owner is no longer the owner of these Blackbytes. The DAG does not register that you received the post-it.
Now, if you lose this post-it, the previous owner can simply give you another post-it that says: "ChainSmoker is now the new owner". *
If you want to give your Blackbytes to someone else, your post-it contains all the information you need to create a new valid post-it for the receiving user, and to register the change of ownership in the DAG.

I think giving Tonych your address (and asking politely) is enough. Resending means sending the same transaction again, you'll receive the exact same Blackbytes again.
The sending wallet can click "re-send private payloads" from the transaction history:


I really recommend to try the features Byteball has, create another wallet and send some money around.

* Comment needed on this analogy: does it help explain how Blackbytes work?

Very good analogy!

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July 10, 2018, 05:34:55 PM
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Marketing and PR has been lagging behind, that's absolutely obvious, but that too is being addressed and a rapidly growing team is the clear evidence of things looking brighter for Byteball's future. Whether it will fulfill your dreams of Lamborghinis and yachts is doubtful, but I have faith in this platform bringing positive change to people's lives and businesses.
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July 10, 2018, 05:48:19 PM
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thats not true. i sent backbytes between my devices /wallets and i could see if it was claimed or not.
Of course you can see that, but that's also all you can see. The DAG only stores a hash that stops you from sending the same Blackbytes again.


yes, thats all you can see. but maybe this is enough to know the claiming-time. you know when the receiver is online because he/she just claimed the coins.

thats why i think this should be avoided if it is possible.

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July 10, 2018, 08:03:32 PM
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Smart contract anonymous sports betting tool BB Odds https://bb-odds.herokuapp.com/ reviewed by Milan Horvath, Byteball Community Manager.

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I staked 50MB for France winning. Let's see how this plays out!

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The Future of Byteball — The Byteball Foundation
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Long term vision / short term focus

We will publish a long term strategic plan including the most important milestones within the coming months as well. There are two important areas we will put most effort into short term, user acquisition and decentralization:
Adoption through educated trial and error
There’s one thing you can be sure of, we will keep trying new methods to gain users for our platform. There is no clear path that we must take. This means that we will iterate a lot and improve through educated trial and error.

50% of Witnesses decentralized before January 1st 2019
Perhaps most important of all, we are going to finally decentralize the network. This is a must if we want to seriously compete in the tokenization of assets field that is going to become the next crypto battlefield. Our goal is to have at least half of the witnesses in the hands of people other than Tony before the end of the year.

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July 10, 2018, 11:35:04 PM
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The Future of Byteball — The Byteball Foundation
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Long term vision / short term focus

Our goal is to have at least half of the witnesses in the hands of people other than Tony before the end of the year.

Excellent. This lack of decentralization is likely byteball's greatest weakness. You're finally addressing it head-on. Thank you.

However, there is a distinct lack of 'showing your work' between 6th Witness spun out and Full Decentralization. Isn't the witness count 12? Looks like you have another 5 Witness spin outs to go before tonych is down to a single Witness - which would be the minimum criteria for Witness decentralization.

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July 11, 2018, 01:47:26 AM
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Smart contract anonymous sports betting tool BB Odds https://bb-odds.herokuapp.com/ reviewed by Milan Horvath, Byteball Community Manager.

https://youtu.be/dnndKjI3pWc

I staked 50MB for France winning. Let's see how this plays out!

You can payout after 6 hours  Wink france win

I got the payment. Thank you very much!

Can't the payout time be shortened? Waiting for 6 hrs to receive payment is a bit frustrating. It would be great if the payment could be received in 10-15 minutes after the game concludes. User experience would be even better.


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The Future of Byteball — The Byteball Foundation
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https://medium.com/byteball/the-future-of-byteball-the-byteball-foundation-cca9d495bf46

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Long term vision / short term focus

We will publish a long term strategic plan including the most important milestones within the coming months as well. There are two important areas we will put most effort into short term, user acquisition and decentralization:
Adoption through educated trial and error
There’s one thing you can be sure of, we will keep trying new methods to gain users for our platform. There is no clear path that we must take. This means that we will iterate a lot and improve through educated trial and error.

50% of Witnesses decentralized before January 1st 2019
Perhaps most important of all, we are going to finally decentralize the network. This is a must if we want to seriously compete in the tokenization of assets field that is going to become the next crypto battlefield. Our goal is to have at least half of the witnesses in the hands of people other than Tony before the end of the year.
Byteball Foundation, what a amazing, ambitious plan!
I think Byteall Foundation is very promising, and can get more investors to Byteball project.

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July 11, 2018, 01:38:51 PM
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One thing that comes to mind directly is that waiting until 2019 Q2 for scaling improvements is too long for at least two reasons. One: new users always ask about tx speed, tx per second, space requirement, etc and at this moment these metrics are unattractive and will scare off most people
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