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Author Topic: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments  (Read 1234085 times)
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October 16, 2018, 02:06:32 PM
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Are these two attestations now linked in a way? And if yes how?
thank you.


The link is known to the bot but it is not public.


and who knows what the bot knows?  Roll Eyes

Me, if I care to look Smiley

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October 16, 2018, 02:17:23 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion but since most users (like Ben) are not going to be sponsors, we don't want to introduce extra steps for them.

I was thinking the opposite. Make users like Ben sponsors and let them spread the platform.

But if you say they are not going to be sponsors, I have nothing more to say.

I know what it feels when your suggestion is rejected, but what I say is based on data:
out of 72000 steem attested users, only 6700 had ever referred someone else;
out of 25000 real name attested users, only 1700 had ever referred someone else.

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October 16, 2018, 02:26:58 PM
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Me, if I care to look Smiley

thank you for the honest answer. your curiosity is one thing. but maybe once you could be forced to show it to someone.

EDIT: I dont want to bash you. I just want to know in which ways the privacy of users can be in danger.
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October 16, 2018, 03:31:05 PM
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out of 25000 real name attested users, only 1700 had ever referred someone else.
I only see 20k: https://byteball.co/attestors

Anyway, two more questions: How many of that 1700 were when refferral rewards was inmediately spendable (with and without counting venezuelan ones)?

And: When will you spend your deserved 1%?

Thank you for all responses, especially the reason behind your apparently arbitrarly decision. I don't like arbitrarily decisions.
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October 16, 2018, 05:36:25 PM
Last edit: October 16, 2018, 06:27:10 PM by vlom
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I would like to suggest this concerning Smart Vouchers and Real Name attestation.

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4: The Real Name Attestation Bot accepts the Smart Voucher, and withdraws the $8 fee from the Smart Voucher to pay for the attestation.

Please change the amount of 8$ into a fixed amount of bytes. e.g 0.00X GB

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5: If Ben’s attestation is successful, his $20 attestation reward is split in two. $12 is sent to a smart contract on Ben’s wallet. He can withdraw that amount 1 year later.

Then change the $20 into 2.5* 0.00X GB. etc.

Why? I have to admit that I dont want to spent about 1GB to start (6*8 ) because the current price is so low.
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October 16, 2018, 06:12:30 PM
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I would like to suggest this concerning Smart Vouchers and Real Name attestation.

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4: The Real Name Attestation Bot accepts the Smart Voucher, and withdraws the $8 fee from the Smart Voucher to pay for the attestation.

Please change the amount of 8$ into a fixed amount of bytes. e.g 0.00X GB

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5: If Ben’s attestation is successful, his $20 attestation reward is split in two. $12 is sent to a smart contract on Ben’s wallet. He can withdraw that amount 1 year later.

Then change the $20 into 2.5* 0.00X GB. etc.

Why? I have to admit that I dont want to spent about 1GB to start (6*Cool because the current price is so low.

The attestation fee is there not for fun and it is not the cost of running a bot, but instead fee goes to Jumio who is providing this service and they accept dollars, hence the fee is in dollars.
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October 16, 2018, 06:26:29 PM
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The attestation fee is there not for fun and it is not the cost of running a bot, but instead fee goes to Jumio who is providing this service and they accept dollars, hence the fee is in dollars.

Adoption would mean that they accept bytes.
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October 17, 2018, 08:41:16 AM
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[reminder] BlackBytes Exchange BEEB is to close on october the 25th.

All customers MUST withdraw their blackbytes before this date or they will be lost (use the 'w' key when paired with BEEB).

[repeating] After this date blackybtes will be lost.

Thank you for your attention.
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October 17, 2018, 09:09:57 AM
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[reminder] BlackBytes Exchange BEEB is to close on october the 25th.

All customers MUST withdraw their blackbytes before this date or they will be lost (use the 'w' key when paired with BEEB).

[repeating] After this date blackybtes will be lost.

Thank you for your attention.

Is there any other reason that BEEB is to close except that one of low volume, the way I see it...? BB can't be exchange on traditional markets  thus OTC is very important for us.
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October 17, 2018, 10:41:58 AM
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out of 25000 real name attested users, only 1700 had ever referred someone else.
I only see 20k: https://byteball.co/attestors

Anyway, two more questions: How many of that 1700 were when refferral rewards was inmediately spendable (with and without counting venezuelan ones)?

And: When will you spend your deserved 1%?

Thank you for all responses, especially the reason behind your apparently arbitrarly decision. I don't like arbitrarily decisions.

byteball.co data aren't updated in real time. There is a latency but I don't know the reason.
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October 17, 2018, 11:16:02 AM
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Thanks for the suggestion but since most users (like Ben) are not going to be sponsors, we don't want to introduce extra steps for them.

I was thinking the opposite. Make users like Ben sponsors and let them spread the platform.

But if you say they are not going to be sponsors, I have nothing more to say.

I know what it feels when your suggestion is rejected, but what I say is based on data:
out of 72000 steem attested users, only 6700 had ever referred someone else;
out of 25000 real name attested users, only 1700 had ever referred someone else.

I've talked with many people about the possibility of certifying their identity with the real name bot but the idea of providing a copy of their ID card repels most of them. Even with the money incentives. People care about the security of their official documents. Jumio is literally an unknown company based in the USA. The disrespect of foreign citizen rights expressed by the USA government and the last news about GAFAs security leaks don't help to trust the Jumio company.

As I stated on Twitter few days ago, I will certify my identity in next days (waiting my new ID card, previous one outdated since October 10th) due to the warranties provided by the smart voucher about the bytes use I will give to people.

By the way, I'm a binational citizen. Should I certify my identity twice ?
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October 17, 2018, 11:26:18 AM
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[reminder] BlackBytes Exchange BEEB is to close on october the 25th.

All customers MUST withdraw their blackbytes before this date or they will be lost (use the 'w' key when paired with BEEB).

[repeating] After this date blackybtes will be lost.

Thank you for your attention.

Is there any other reason that BEEB is to close except that one of low volume, the way I see it...? BB can't be exchange on traditional markets  thus OTC is very important for us.

BEEB is closing because raw margin does not even cover hosting costs.
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October 17, 2018, 11:35:07 AM
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[reminder] BlackBytes Exchange BEEB is to close on october the 25th.

All customers MUST withdraw their blackbytes before this date or they will be lost (use the 'w' key when paired with BEEB).

[repeating] After this date blackybtes will be lost.

Thank you for your attention.
[...] BB can't be exchange on traditional markets  thus OTC is very important for us.
The developer (supported by the community) prefers to deal with side issues instead of finally running something that could have this currency ahead of all the others.

The management would rather feed people's greed than the usability of the platform.

Blackbytes could easily be exchanged for Altcois and Fiat if a wallet-internal solution is created like the decentralized app BISQ does.
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October 17, 2018, 02:20:12 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion but since most users (like Ben) are not going to be sponsors, we don't want to introduce extra steps for them.

I was thinking the opposite. Make users like Ben sponsors and let them spread the platform.

But if you say they are not going to be sponsors, I have nothing more to say.

I know what it feels when your suggestion is rejected, but what I say is based on data:
out of 72000 steem attested users, only 6700 had ever referred someone else;
out of 25000 real name attested users, only 1700 had ever referred someone else.

I've talked with many people about the possibility of certifying their identity with the real name bot but the idea of providing a copy of their ID card repels most of them. Even with the money incentives. People care about the security of their official documents. Jumio is literally an unknown company based in the USA. The disrespect of foreign citizen rights expressed by the USA government and the last news about GAFAs security leaks don't help to trust the Jumio company.

As I stated on Twitter few days ago, I will certify my identity in next days (waiting my new ID card, previous one outdated since October 10th) due to the warranties provided by the smart voucher about the bytes use I will give to people.

By the way, I'm a binational citizen. Should I certify my identity twice ?

Jumio has verified over 130 million identities. Sure, some people you speak with will not want to, but the fact they have already done so many shows many are fine with it

note: many people in crypto are probably more paranoid about identities than non cyrpto people in the real world (which is the vast majoirty of the worlds population)
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October 17, 2018, 03:23:18 PM
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Tony and your team deserve a lot respect...
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October 17, 2018, 03:28:21 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion but since most users (like Ben) are not going to be sponsors, we don't want to introduce extra steps for them.

I was thinking the opposite. Make users like Ben sponsors and let them spread the platform.

But if you say they are not going to be sponsors, I have nothing more to say.

I know what it feels when your suggestion is rejected, but what I say is based on data:
out of 72000 steem attested users, only 6700 had ever referred someone else;
out of 25000 real name attested users, only 1700 had ever referred someone else.

I've talked with many people about the possibility of certifying their identity with the real name bot but the idea of providing a copy of their ID card repels most of them. Even with the money incentives. People care about the security of their official documents. Jumio is literally an unknown company based in the USA. The disrespect of foreign citizen rights expressed by the USA government and the last news about GAFAs security leaks don't help to trust the Jumio company.

As I stated on Twitter few days ago, I will certify my identity in next days (waiting my new ID card, previous one outdated since October 10th) due to the warranties provided by the smart voucher about the bytes use I will give to people.

By the way, I'm a binational citizen. Should I certify my identity twice ?
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note: many people in crypto are probably more paranoid about identities than non cyrpto people in the real world (which is the vast majoirty of the worlds population)
And that's exactly why the majority of the world's population doesn't (yet) want to have anything to do with cryptos... unless they want to buy goods that they can only get with cryptos. But that again requires that there be an easy way for them to exchange their Fiat for Bytes/Blackbyties, as in the case of this project.
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October 17, 2018, 06:06:37 PM
Last edit: October 17, 2018, 06:58:27 PM by meterse
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[reminder] BlackBytes Exchange BEEB is to close on october the 25th.

All customers MUST withdraw their blackbytes before this date or they will be lost (use the 'w' key when paired with BEEB).

[repeating] After this date blackybtes will be lost.

Thank you for your attention.

Is there any other reason that BEEB is to close except that one of low volume, the way I see it...? BB can't be exchange on traditional markets  thus OTC is very important for us.

when Blackbytes are distributed again volume will pick up. Before you ask, we are concentraqting on distriubting Bytes first, I dont know when the blackbyte distros will start again.

n.b. IMO blackbytes could be 'better' distributed than bytes, as we are learning lessons with bytes distros that can be used to distribute blackbytes better
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October 17, 2018, 06:20:15 PM
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Tony and your team deserve a lot respect...

They probably do, as they did a lot of work to develop the coin with many nice features. But the distribution direction was changed in the middle, the marketing was not good at all, this causes a lot people left the project, otherwise this coin should be at top 15 coin at least.
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October 17, 2018, 06:42:05 PM
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Byteball is an amazing tech, should be in top 15. I think in december Byteball will see ATH in btc prices.
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October 17, 2018, 06:57:49 PM
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Tony and your team deserve a lot respect...

They probably do, as they did a lot of work to develop the coin with many nice features. But the distribution direction was changed in the middle, the marketing was not good at all, this causes a lot people left the project, otherwise this coin should be at top 15 coin at least.

the distribution was changed because the model was no longer growing the network like they initially did

in terms of getting bytes into the hands of new people, the new distros are better (though slower)
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