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May 14, 2018, 05:21:22 AM
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The Byteball.org team is making good progress, we're now in first page for daily points ranking  Cool
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May 14, 2018, 05:25:04 AM
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I would like to redevelopment a project base on the byteball platform,I was wondering if there is a client command line wallet,or if the byteball app platform can provide an API for data’s interaction ,which makes it easier to develop An app!
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May 14, 2018, 05:59:18 AM
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Thank you Tony for doing so much and so well for this project. The community felt and had expressend that marketing was missing - and now that's already a thing of the past

Marketing is a necessity , I hope after the marketing team gets consolidated, Tony would manage to keep posting byteball updates through this channel.

I like byteball because I have some bytes!
They are already starting to invest in marketing but since the time they started it, the price has gone even more down.
I don't know why but I believe its not correct to expect much from byteball when bitcoin itself is struggling.

bitcoin is struggling in price, because it forks, then it fork again, then again another fork of a fork, not counting the copy coins. Then a lot of liquidity have gone to the new token, and another...

Byteball will rise, there is no way to copy byteball wallet ...

Look to Iota can make simple wallet...
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May 14, 2018, 09:39:12 AM
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Is this one created by Byteball team?
https://www.ccn.com/blockchains-scalability-problems-can-be-resolved-by-the-implementation-of-dags/
Just kidding lol.
It seems that it is right time for DAG coins fly over the Moon.
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May 14, 2018, 10:57:57 AM
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bitcoin is struggling in price, because it forks, then it fork again, then again another fork of a fork, not counting the copy coins. Then a lot of liquidity have gone to the new token, and another...

I don't thing so, before the first fork (Bitcoin Cash), the price of bitcoin rallied and altcoins tanked big time, after that a lot has happened, many forks were created, and Bitcoin reached its ATH. Bitcoin forks are not driving money away from Bitcoin, because, at least for the time being, the overall trend seems set by Bitcoin, in general when it goes up almost all go up, when it goes down almost all go down, of course if Bitcoin rallies we might see a negative correlation with alts' prices. New money is getting into the cryptocurrency space and cases where money migrates from Bitcoin to something else remain very rare and punctual, like for instance when Bitcoin Cash rallied and Bitcoin tanked, but that didn't last long ...

Byteball will rise, there is no way to copy byteball wallet ...

There always is a way to clone or fork an open source code like Byteball's.

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May 14, 2018, 11:07:24 AM
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The first fork from Bitcoin, BitcoinCash is the most reasonably fork. All the rest are probably just a way to earn free money by smart tactics which started by pools owners, Bitman, etc.
I don' thing so, before the first fork (Bitcoin Cash), the price of bitcoin rallied and altcoins tanked big time, after that a lot has happened, many forks were created, and Bitcoin reached its ATH.

By now, no fork from Bytebal, but as you said, someone who have willingness to fork can certainly for the coin from its source codes.
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May 14, 2018, 12:09:36 PM
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Thank you Tony for doing so much and so well for this project. The community felt and had expressend that marketing was missing - and now that's already a thing of the past

Marketing is a necessity , I hope after the marketing team gets consolidated, Tony would manage to keep posting byteball updates through this channel.

I like byteball because I have some bytes!
They are already starting to invest in marketing but since the time they started it, the price has gone even more down.
I don't know why but I believe its not correct to expect much from byteball when bitcoin itself is struggling.

Paying for marketing in bytes can result in price down. There I mean on signature and social media promotion. Probably 80% of publishers selling immediately his bytes when received them for his job.
I did not have enough free time to analyze that but can be chance to buy cheap.





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May 14, 2018, 12:14:36 PM
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Paying for marketing in bytes can result in price down. There I mean on signature and social media promotion. Probably 80% of publishers selling immediately his bytes when received them for his job.
I did not have enough free time to analyze that but can be chance to buy cheap.
You are wrong!
Those participants can only make price down a bit for a short period of time. They can not control and make long-lasting, strong impact on the price of Byteball.
If you remember or spend several seconds to look at Byteball price chart, you will see that during the current signature campaign, Byteball price has surpass 0.034 BTC. It was significant rise, right?
I don't know whether the rise was mainly due to signature campaign impacts or not, but it is one thing which can prove your stance is wrong.

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Paying for marketing in bytes can result in price down. There I mean on signature and social media promotion. Probably 80% of publishers selling immediately his bytes when received them for his job.
I did not have enough free time to analyze that but can be chance to buy cheap.

Then why you are in such campaign? The best part of  marketing  - from my point of view, anyway - is yet to come  for example through youtube bloggers assisting in Byteball promotion and paid by bytes.
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May 14, 2018, 02:19:32 PM
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When I proposed the idea with WorldCommunityGrid on March 31, 2018, I did not think that it would be so well accepted, and second, that it would be implemented so quickly. After the official start on the 14th of April, exactly one month has passed and I think it's worth taking an interim conclusion.

The Byteball.org Team on WCG has reached 237 members which have spent 8 years and 188 days of processing power in one month ranked #5,946 out of 34,147. 12.8 million WCG points have been generated.

Byteball.org team is currently ranked at #175 (out of 34,147 teams) regarding number of team members.

Overall a big success story. I hope it continues so that we will be soon one of the top contributing teams (Ripple Lab's team is close Cheesy ). A big thanks to all the participants which help to make the world a little better.
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May 14, 2018, 02:28:13 PM
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When I proposed the idea with WorldCommunityGrid on March 31, 2018, I did not think that it would be so well accepted, and second, that it would be implemented so quickly. After the official start on the 14th of April, exactly one month has passed and I think it's worth taking an interim conclusion.

The Byteball.org Team on WCG has reached 237 members which have spent 8 years and 188 days of processing power in one month ranked #5,946 out of 34,147. 12.8 million WCG points have been generated.

Byteball.org team is currently ranked at #175 (out of 34,147 teams) regarding number of team members.

Overall a big success story. I hope it continues so that we will be soon one of the top contributing teams (Ripple Lab's team is close Cheesy ). A big thanks to all the participants which help to make the world a little better.

I would not call it a big success. 200 members and 0.6Gb per day are tiny numbers. Clearly, WCG guys don't give a shit about byteball and byteball holders don't give a shit about  WCG at these payout rates.
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Meet The Russians Behind Your Blockchain (And Cryptocurrency, Too)

In the often hard-to-understand, cryptic world of blockchain and the cryptocurrencies that depend on it, few can claim two A-listers in the industry. The Russians can.

Here are the two household names: Vitalik Buterin, the young founder of the Ethereum blockchain, enabling cryptocurrency issuing startups to flourish in a way venture capital never has. He is now a millionaire many times over.

Pavel Durov continues to make headlines. He fights the law and wins. His messaging app Telegram is currently building its own blockchain platform called the Telegram Open Network. They've issued around a billion dollars worth of new coins to help fund it. Durov is a rock star. He lives somewhere between Dubai and St. Kitts. He recently fought a Russian spy agency ban on Telegram. Forbes lists him as a billionaire thanks to his bets on high tech innovation. His new blockchain platform may make him a billionaire many times over.

"Whatsapp, Telegram, Google, all have Russian-Americans or expat Russians leading it or developing it," says Igor Matsenyuk, a Russian gamer who sold his $80 million position in internet company Mail.ru back in 2010 and now runs IT-Territory, plus venture capital firm Farminers.  "If you are talking about the value of the market, of course the U.S. is bigger. But in terms of talent, I think Russia is in the top three along with China," he says.


First a note to the newcomers: blockchain is a digital ledger. It is disruptive because it does away with the middleman. Think of buying insurance directly from an insurer instead of a broker. Think of making a call without AT&T or, in Russia, the Beeline. That's the blockchain in a nutshell. It also helps users track every aspect of the sale, from farm to table.

"Blockchain technology starting to penetrate different areas of Russian life," says Pavel Pribylov, a pharma market mogul and blockchain startup investor. Pribylov is one of the main investors behind new Russian company Glass Cube that is building global insurance blockchain platform called I-chain.  "I think you'll see blockchain become fundamental in the new economy," he says.

Cryptocurrencies were developed along with blockchain. The new money, like Bitcoin and Buterin's Ether are on every hedge fund's radar today.

Russians are all over this space. They are in Silicon Valley on special visas, or zipping in and out of the Bay Area on tourist visas working on projects with Americans. They are in Singapore and Barcelona. They are founders and top advisors, one and all.

Russia may be known as a geopolitical hotspot thanks to another A-lister, Vladimir Putin, but it is -- or better yet, can be -- much more than the giant gas station Senator John McCain likes to call her. Russia always was a high tech nation. But most of Russia's tech prowess was pure government largesse that fed the minds of Kremlin-backed physicists. They did manage to blow up an H-bomb, and get a man into space first, but the Russians were never known for putting their science, technology, engineering and math skills to practical, commercial use.

Until the blockchain craze.

As of late last year, 20% of the top 50 blockchain startups by funds raised were Russian. They were either founded solely by Russians or had Russian partners, according to angel investor Elena Masolova. Like many globetrotting Russian techies, Masolova spends a lot of her time in Silicon Valley. She is best known for selling Darberry to Groupon. She has her hands in a bit of everything. She runs a corporate training company called Eduson.TV in the Bay Area, and is an advisor to TokenStars, a cryptocurrency play that lets users sponsor certain athletes.

"The reason is simple why Russia is everywhere on this topic," she tells me over drinks at the Hotel Ukraine in Moscow. "You have lots of engineering talent and lots of cryptography talent in Russia. Plus you have a Russian economy that is not so great, so blockchain and cryptocurrency in general just looks like an enormous opportunity to entrepreneurs there."

The Russian Blockheads

The Russians (including Russian-Americans and expats) building blockchain companies include guys like Aleksander Ivanov, founder of the Waves Platform; Vasiliy Suvorov, a senior executive at Luxoft and one of the founders behind the Crypto Valley Association being built in Switzerland; Alex Fork, CEO of fintech firm Humaniq; Alex Fedoseev, CEO of 1World Online; Siberian-turned-Australian Sergei Sergienko, the CEO of ChronoBank; Igor Barinov, the blockchain priest at POA Network in San Francisco; and Sergei Ponomarev, CEO of SONM, to name a few.

According to the Unified State Register of Legal Entities in Russia, there were 50 companies registered as blockchain technology firms at the start of the year. Their values range from zero to one billion rubles.

New comers are sprouting up all the time. Some stay close to home. Others think globally.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2018/04/29/meet-the-russians-behind-your-blockchain-and-cryptocurrency-too/#2847e1763b86

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May 14, 2018, 04:45:46 PM
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Paying for marketing in bytes can result in price down. There I mean on signature and social media promotion. Probably 80% of publishers selling immediately his bytes when received them for his job.
I did not have enough free time to analyze that but can be chance to buy cheap.

Then why you are in such campaign? The best part of  marketing  - from my point of view, anyway - is yet to come  for example through youtube bloggers assisting in Byteball promotion and payed by bytes.


Because it is a good way to collect more bytes now when it's cheap.
Unlike you, I do not like youtube/video blogs. very rarely spending the time to watch video promotion.





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May 14, 2018, 05:58:59 PM
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Has anybody here tried to pay anything in GBYTE in Milan? I see there are plenty of merchants accepting GBYTE for products and services and it would be nice if somebody here could make a review! I'd go if I could

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May 14, 2018, 06:27:47 PM
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Paying for marketing in bytes can result in price down. There I mean on signature and social media promotion. Probably 80% of publishers selling immediately his bytes when received them for his job.
I did not have enough free time to analyze that but can be chance to buy cheap.
You are wrong!
Those participants can only make price down a bit for a short period of time. They can not control and make long-lasting, strong impact on the price of Byteball.
If you remember or spend several seconds to look at Byteball price chart, you will see that during the current signature campaign, Byteball price has surpass 0.034 BTC. It was significant rise, right?
I don't know whether the rise was mainly due to signature campaign impacts or not, but it is one thing which can prove your stance is wrong.

This is true. The dumpers will have a short term impact, but if they are getting new people into Byteball, then it is worth it. Think of how the initial airdrop resulted in Byteball becoming known to almost 90% of the Bitcoin community. Similarly, the signature campaigns may have a positive impact too.


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May 14, 2018, 07:38:39 PM
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Paying for marketing in bytes can result in price down. There I mean on signature and social media promotion. Probably 80% of publishers selling immediately his bytes when received them for his job.
I did not have enough free time to analyze that but can be chance to buy cheap.
You are wrong!
Those participants can only make price down a bit for a short period of time. They can not control and make long-lasting, strong impact on the price of Byteball.
If you remember or spend several seconds to look at Byteball price chart, you will see that during the current signature campaign, Byteball price has surpass 0.034 BTC. It was significant rise, right?
I don't know whether the rise was mainly due to signature campaign impacts or not, but it is one thing which can prove your stance is wrong.

This is true. The dumpers will have a short term impact, but if they are getting new people into Byteball, then it is worth it. Think of how the initial airdrop resulted in Byteball becoming known to almost 90% of the Bitcoin community. Similarly, the signature campaigns may have a positive impact too.

Do you know what's a better market strategy? A market maker pushing the price to a new ATH. That will surely bring new participants/new believers/new bagholders  Grin Anyway, it always happens to crypto coins.


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May 14, 2018, 08:47:46 PM
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Thank you Tony for doing so much and so well for this project. The community felt and had expressend that marketing was missing - and now that's already a thing of the past

Marketing is a necessity , I hope after the marketing team gets consolidated, Tony would manage to keep posting byteball updates through this channel.

I like byteball because I have some bytes!
They are already starting to invest in marketing but since the time they started it, the price has gone even more down.
I don't know why but I believe its not correct to expect much from byteball when bitcoin itself is struggling.

Paying for marketing in bytes can result in price down. There I mean on signature and social media promotion. Probably 80% of publishers selling immediately his bytes when received them for his job.
I did not have enough free time to analyze that but can be chance to buy cheap.
Yes, I have realized the same. Paying in bytes is affecting the price but for a brief period of time.

Its a known fact that when the signature payment gets sent out the price suddenly drops and them recovers, this in a very long run may affect the price if the !marketing strategy expands up to more realms than just signature campaigns.
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May 14, 2018, 10:39:53 PM
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Thank you Tony for doing so much and so well for this project. The community felt and had expressend that marketing was missing - and now that's already a thing of the past

Marketing is a necessity , I hope after the marketing team gets consolidated, Tony would manage to keep posting byteball updates through this channel.

I like byteball because I have some bytes!
They are already starting to invest in marketing but since the time they started it, the price has gone even more down.
I don't know why but I believe its not correct to expect much from byteball when bitcoin itself is struggling.

Paying for marketing in bytes can result in price down. There I mean on signature and social media promotion. Probably 80% of publishers selling immediately his bytes when received them for his job.
I did not have enough free time to analyze that but can be chance to buy cheap.

From my own point of view, this is a calculated risk that was taken by Tony knowing that campaigns like the one that we have right now will have impact in long term. yes, it is very possible that 80% of the participants sold their bytes right after receiving it from the manager but we can't just put all the blame to them. Byteball isn't a small market that can be swayed by mere number of participants selling their rewards. It's just that almost all altcoins are tanking very hard together with BTC.

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May 15, 2018, 02:48:57 AM
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From my own point of view, this is a calculated risk that was taken by Tony knowing that campaigns like the one that we have right now will have impact in long term. yes, it is very possible that 80% of the participants sold their bytes right after receiving it from the manager but we can't just put all the blame to them. Byteball isn't a small market that can be swayed by mere number of participants selling their rewards. It's just that almost all altcoins are tanking very hard together with BTC.
I don't believe that signature participants can really dump the Byteball price too much after getting their payments.
Of course, most of them will sell their coins immediately after receiving (as you said), but the effects will last very short, several minutes, or hours.
The real movements of Byteball will be determined by Bitcoin (or BitcoinCash at specific point of time) movements, and Byteball internal developments.
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