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February 06, 2017, 05:29:00 AM
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Well in fact drug users are usually rich person, not the poverty is the main issue here I came from a poor family but we never came to a point to use drugs or what . Depression is one thing, it is always the way how we think or how we dwell with our problems, sometimes people just pushes to do it especially if they don't have enough friends or a family to understand them.
In general, the rich are beginning to use drugs, and continue to have poor, because drugs are expensive pleasure.
That is why even though we cannot eliminate drugs 100%, at least the government is trying their best to lessen it and not to just ignore it because they have nothing to do with it. That is the most important that the government still care for the people. I just wish that corrupt politicians will penalize for allowing drugs by getting money here in our country.
When used drugs rich people is not such a big problem as it is when the drugs are used by poor people. Poor people do not have enough money for drugs and therefore they commit crimes to have money.
Im agree with you.Taking drugs is not a reason to commit crime but when some poor people have need money they commit crime to get some money.So the best way to lessen drugs users and addicts is to educate them and give them a permanent job.This method we can lessen drugs user and addicts.

i think you're argument is invalid. taking drugs is not a reason to commit crime. rather the peoples mind do it. if you are psychotic or you have problem in your mind, personal issues and so on. you might commit crime. as you will think that it is good for you. just so you know even educated people uses illegal drugs. so maybe its just the person itself who decide if he will commit crime.
If you think is invalid I don't blame you.I agree that some educated people is using drugs but the poor peoples is on topic on it.By educating poor person and giving them a job it can lessen their time in taking drugs.If they cant stop using drugs rehab is the main solution on it but its depends on him/her if he want to make a new life.

some jobs force them to take drugs in order for them just to finish their job on time. like for example for the film industry some mens of the said industry work for about 3days straight with no sleep. do you think their natural body can do it. no, thats why they are using some drugs just to finish their job right. it always depends on the person itself wether he or she will do it in the right things or on bad things.
And if that true that film industry required you take drugs you have a right to dont take it.And I think that in their signed contract its not listed that you required to take drugs. And it depends on the person if he want to take drugs.

I think it is just you to decide whether you will take it or not. Yes we cannot eliminate drugs 100%, but if we are the one who are deciding whether you will take drugs, we can be 100% drug free. I think, it is only the mindset of everyone who take drugs. If you are a drug addict, go for rehabilitation program. We are the one who can help our country to be drug free.
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February 06, 2017, 05:42:24 AM
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Well in fact drug users are usually rich person, not the poverty is the main issue here I came from a poor family but we never came to a point to use drugs or what . Depression is one thing, it is always the way how we think or how we dwell with our problems, sometimes people just pushes to do it especially if they don't have enough friends or a family to understand them.
In general, the rich are beginning to use drugs, and continue to have poor, because drugs are expensive pleasure.
That is why even though we cannot eliminate drugs 100%, at least the government is trying their best to lessen it and not to just ignore it because they have nothing to do with it. That is the most important that the government still care for the people. I just wish that corrupt politicians will penalize for allowing drugs by getting money here in our country.
When used drugs rich people is not such a big problem as it is when the drugs are used by poor people. Poor people do not have enough money for drugs and therefore they commit crimes to have money.
Im agree with you.Taking drugs is not a reason to commit crime but when some poor people have need money they commit crime to get some money.So the best way to lessen drugs users and addicts is to educate them and give them a permanent job.This method we can lessen drugs user and addicts.

i think you're argument is invalid. taking drugs is not a reason to commit crime. rather the peoples mind do it. if you are psychotic or you have problem in your mind, personal issues and so on. you might commit crime. as you will think that it is good for you. just so you know even educated people uses illegal drugs. so maybe its just the person itself who decide if he will commit crime.
If you think is invalid I don't blame you.I agree that some educated people is using drugs but the poor peoples is on topic on it.By educating poor person and giving them a job it can lessen their time in taking drugs.If they cant stop using drugs rehab is the main solution on it but its depends on him/her if he want to make a new life.

some jobs force them to take drugs in order for them just to finish their job on time. like for example for the film industry some mens of the said industry work for about 3days straight with no sleep. do you think their natural body can do it. no, thats why they are using some drugs just to finish their job right. it always depends on the person itself wether he or she will do it in the right things or on bad things.
And if that true that film industry required you take drugs you have a right to dont take it.And I think that in their signed contract its not listed that you required to take drugs. And it depends on the person if he want to take drugs.

I think it is just you to decide whether you will take it or not. Yes we cannot eliminate drugs 100%, but if we are the one who are deciding whether you will take drugs, we can be 100% drug free. I think, it is only the mindset of everyone who take drugs. If you are a drug addict, go for rehabilitation program. We are the one who can help our country to be drug free.

There's a lot of issue regarding to drugs. I think we cannot eliminate drugs 100%. We need the help of local governments, all this kind of rehabilitation programs must be develop. With the help of this local government, we can eliminate I think 40% to 70%. Those drug addicts must eliminate and the drug dealers must first eliminate.

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February 06, 2017, 06:20:32 AM
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There's a lot of issue regarding to drugs. I think we cannot eliminate drugs 100%. We need the help of local governments, all this kind of rehabilitation programs must be develop. With the help of this local government, we can eliminate I think 40% to 70%. Those drug addicts must eliminate and the drug dealers must first eliminate.

With the way the fight's going on this day about drugs in the Philippines, no big time drug lord has been killed and purely distributors who could earn just small, and probably that's what they use to supply their own.

I heard that the drug fight has to take a break this time and probably they are fixing things so it won't mess.

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February 07, 2017, 12:03:45 AM
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The president of the philippines can do it .As a citizen of the philippines I can see the improvemnt now ..I hope that this phenomenon shall continue until success is achieve.All the filipino people need to do is to cooperateto him.However there is an increase in the death rate of the said to be suspect of drug addicts being killed in operations.I think police should be more considerate about this matter because life is life
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There's a lot of issue regarding to drugs. I think we cannot eliminate drugs 100%. We need the help of local governments, all this kind of rehabilitation programs must be develop. With the help of this local government, we can eliminate I think 40% to 70%. Those drug addicts must eliminate and the drug dealers must first eliminate.

With the way the fight's going on this day about drugs in the Philippines, no big time drug lord has been killed and purely distributors who could earn just small, and probably that's what they use to supply their own.

I heard that the drug fight has to take a break this time and probably they are fixing things so it won't mess.

No big time drug lord? Well, let me just state two which i know. Espinosa and jaguar both are from a certain region in the philippines. Now of course most of the drug users will obviously fought that is why they are killed(tho i am not saying that they are all legit). Other thing is that ejk is higher than a legit operation and we all know that it was the syndicate killing their lower members so that they cant talk about them and why would people blame the government for that then?
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February 07, 2017, 06:26:36 AM
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No big time drug lord? Well, let me just state two which i know. Espinosa and jaguar both are from a certain region in the philippines. Now of course most of the drug users will obviously fought that is why they are killed(tho i am not saying that they are all legit). Other thing is that ejk is higher than a legit operation and we all know that it was the syndicate killing their lower members so that they cant talk about them and why would people blame the government for that then?

Aside from Espinosa and jaguar I think there is Chinese man from Valenzuela. Of course, these drug lords are only few compared to pushers,runners and users.For now, I can attest that its really different on the streets compared to several years under the previous admin. War on drugs may not be perfect, but there is results which the ordinary citizen feels safe.Change maybe painful, but let us think that this is for our own betterment.

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There's a lot of issue regarding to drugs. I think we cannot eliminate drugs 100%. We need the help of local governments, all this kind of rehabilitation programs must be develop. With the help of this local government, we can eliminate I think 40% to 70%. Those drug addicts must eliminate and the drug dealers must first eliminate.

With the way the fight's going on this day about drugs in the Philippines, no big time drug lord has been killed and purely distributors who could earn just small, and probably that's what they use to supply their own.

I heard that the drug fight has to take a break this time and probably they are fixing things so it won't mess.

No big time drug lord? Well, let me just state two which i know. Espinosa and jaguar both are from a certain region in the philippines. Now of course most of the drug users will obviously fought that is why they are killed(tho i am not saying that they are all legit). Other thing is that ejk is higher than a legit operation and we all know that it was the syndicate killing their lower members so that they cant talk about them and why would people blame the government for that then?

Espinosa is on trial yet, but killed, I don't know if it is conspiracy or a state sponsored one, it was not clear if he is really the biggest man of the drug syndicate. The authorities should be focusing first on their side before doing too much killing AKA EJK.

Just take a look at it, after the police operations against drugs was stopped to reorganized themselves, have you heard any EJK this past days? none right? therefore, apart from those syndicates killing themselves ( probably a heresy ) police are the one doing it.


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Aside from Espinosa and jaguar I think there is Chinese man from Valenzuela. Of course, these drug lords are only few compared to pushers,runners and users.For now, I can attest that its really different on the streets compared to several years under the previous admin. War on drugs may not be perfect, but there is results which the ordinary citizen feels safe.Change maybe painful, but let us think that this is for our own betterment.

Yes, I remember that chinese as well. Exactly, If you yourself does not get involved in it then why would you be afraid from it.



Espinosa is on trial yet, but killed, I don't know if it is conspiracy or a state sponsored one, it was not clear if he is really the biggest man of the drug syndicate. The authorities should be focusing first on their side before doing too much killing AKA EJK.

Just take a look at it, after the police operations against drugs was stopped to reorganized themselves, have you heard any EJK this past days? none right? therefore, apart from those syndicates killing themselves ( probably a heresy ) police are the one doing it.



Well, Yeah tho even if he is still on trial, His son already stated that he a drug lord. have you heard any EJK this past days? none right? therefore, apart from those syndicates killing themselves ( probably a heresy ) police are the one doing it Yes actually we just recently received a local news  on feb 5 that there is an 18 year old died with a riding in tandem
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February 07, 2017, 01:35:39 PM
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The president of the philippines can do it .As a citizen of the philippines I can see the improvemnt now ..I hope that this phenomenon shall continue until success is achieve.All the filipino people need to do is to cooperateto him.However there is an increase in the death rate of the said to be suspect of drug addicts being killed in operations.I think police should be more considerate about this matter because life is life
To defeat the drug lords need to prove in court their involvement in the drug trade. It is very difficult. They themselves do not stand on the street and not into drugs. Here the police and went the easy way. To destroy.
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February 07, 2017, 02:43:51 PM
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The president of the philippines can do it .As a citizen of the philippines I can see the improvemnt now ..I hope that this phenomenon shall continue until success is achieve.All the filipino people need to do is to cooperateto him.However there is an increase in the death rate of the said to be suspect of drug addicts being killed in operations.I think police should be more considerate about this matter because life is life
There are big improvement happening in philippines i can see it here in my place less criminals , less drug adicts and other things most of filipinos are afraid to died thats why they choose the good path way rather than wasting their lives yes death in our country is increasing but those people had a bad records.
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The president of the philippines can do it .As a citizen of the philippines I can see the improvemnt now ..I hope that this phenomenon shall continue until success is achieve.All the filipino people need to do is to cooperateto him.However there is an increase in the death rate of the said to be suspect of drug addicts being killed in operations.I think police should be more considerate about this matter because life is life
There are big improvement happening in philippines i can see it here in my place less criminals , less drug adicts and other things most of filipinos are afraid to died thats why they choose the good path way rather than wasting their lives yes death in our country is increasing but those people had a bad records.
And who decides a bad person or good? Where you have the guarantee that tomorrow some sort of a policeman decides that you are a bad person and won't shoot you in the street while accusing a drug dealer?
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February 07, 2017, 05:27:08 PM
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And who decides a bad person or good? Where you have the guarantee that tomorrow some sort of a policeman decides that you are a bad person and won't shoot you in the street while accusing a drug dealer?

That is already happening. The vigilantes and the corrupt cops are using this as an opportunity to get their revenge against the whistle blowers and activists. A number of them have already been murdered.

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February 07, 2017, 05:53:12 PM
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And who decides a bad person or good? Where you have the guarantee that tomorrow some sort of a policeman decides that you are a bad person and won't shoot you in the street while accusing a drug dealer?

That is already happening. The vigilantes and the corrupt cops are using this as an opportunity to get their revenge against the whistle blowers and activists. A number of them have already been murdered.
The Bible says what good intentions pave the road to hell. The Philippines is faced with this problem. This is assuming that Duarte really had good intentions, but I'm not so sure.
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And who decides a bad person or good? Where you have the guarantee that tomorrow some sort of a policeman decides that you are a bad person and won't shoot you in the street while accusing a drug dealer?

That is already happening. The vigilantes and the corrupt cops are using this as an opportunity to get their revenge against the whistle blowers and activists. A number of them have already been murdered.
For now I dont heard such a news  like that they killed whistleblowers and activist.You're mind is full of idea I think because you can make like that imagination.As for now the war on drugs in the Philippines is suspend for some purposes.
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Different people have different views about him. Most have good views while the rest says he is crazy. For me, i feel that it's okay since it's kingpins and so on.
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Different people have different views about him. Most have good views while the rest says he is crazy. For me, i feel that it's okay since it's kingpins and so on.
I also think Duterte abnormal. In our time, do a lot of abnormal men become presidents. Maybe it's the craze? Abnormal people which are now the majority choose the same gift.
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Different people have different views about him. Most have good views while the rest says he is crazy. For me, i feel that it's okay since it's kingpins and so on.
I also think Duterte abnormal. In our time, do a lot of abnormal men become presidents. Maybe it's the craze? Abnormal people which are now the majority choose the same gift.

Abnormal?  Lol you dont have any proof for that. Besides he is a lawyer so probably very much smarter than you.  Are you saying that those people who believes in him that he could get rid of the drug problems were also crazy?
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Different people have different views about him. Most have good views while the rest says he is crazy. For me, i feel that it's okay since it's kingpins and so on.
I also think Duterte abnormal. In our time, do a lot of abnormal men become presidents. Maybe it's the craze? Abnormal people which are now the majority choose the same gift.

Abnormal?  Lol you dont have any proof for that. Besides he is a lawyer so probably very much smarter than you.  Are you saying that those people who believes in him that he could get rid of the drug problems were also crazy?
I also agree. Duterte crazy. Is it normal that the President will command the police to shoot people without trial. The fact that they are the drug lords had to prove in court. Are you sure that the police is not wrong?.
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Different people have different views about him. Most have good views while the rest says he is crazy. For me, i feel that it's okay since it's kingpins and so on.
I also think Duterte abnormal. In our time, do a lot of abnormal men become presidents. Maybe it's the craze? Abnormal people which are now the majority choose the same gift.

Abnormal?  Lol you dont have any proof for that. Besides he is a lawyer so probably very much smarter than you.  Are you saying that those people who believes in him that he could get rid of the drug problems were also crazy?
I also agree. Duterte crazy. Is it normal that the President will command the police to shoot people without trial. The fact that they are the drug lords had to prove in court. Are you sure that the police is not wrong?.

Agreeing on your first statement? That is purely crazy than duterte playing mind games that if you are an adict then you die.  Of course a certain addict would fight because of they are in their proper mindset
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Different people have different views about him. Most have good views while the rest says he is crazy. For me, i feel that it's okay since it's kingpins and so on.
I also think Duterte abnormal. In our time, do a lot of abnormal men become presidents. Maybe it's the craze? Abnormal people which are now the majority choose the same gift.

Abnormal?  Lol you dont have any proof for that. Besides he is a lawyer so probably very much smarter than you.  Are you saying that those people who believes in him that he could get rid of the drug problems were also crazy?
I also agree. Duterte crazy. Is it normal that the President will command the police to shoot people without trial. The fact that they are the drug lords had to prove in court. Are you sure that the police is not wrong?.

Agreeing on your first statement? That is purely crazy than duterte playing mind games that if you are an adict then you die.  Of course a certain addict would fight because of they are in their proper mindset

yes. i think this one is true. not because you are addict it always says that you are in not your normal state. maybe thet say that they fightback is because they are on their normal state so they are killed. better to surrender yourself if some policemen got to your house and want to rehabilitize you for your own good.
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