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July 22, 2012, 03:30:02 PM
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All payouts *should* be current.  If you are missing a payout you think you should have received, can you please let me know in a PM or email (admin@eclipsemc.com) when and for how much?

I've sent an email to all the people who used the cashout feature to receive an overpayment that have email addresses.  These are the people I'm not able to contact due to no email and how much they were overpaid:

anonymousguymandude 25.19686011 BTC
bobo 38.49488714 BTC
devnull 16.71986074 BTC
escobar 11.51102329 BTC
floeti 4.79997169 BTC
kimitobo 138.10382552 BTC
scsynthesis 18.74108405 BTC



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July 22, 2012, 04:43:53 PM
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Wow, so I just got this from Vitaliy Maxorin:

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I myself am a programmer and I know for myself that for financial losses incurred due to errors in the source code the programmers are paid out of his pocket. I myself have several times carried a financial loss because of their mistakes. But no I will not reimburse my losses. I understand your request as a man, but I think it is not appropriate as a colleague. Excuse me, but I do not return the money you lost.

His email is MVitaliyB@mail.ru, he was over paid 47.30350378 BTC.  Too bad there are so many thieves in the world... sad.  WTG breaking that Russian stereotype to boot! 

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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July 22, 2012, 05:00:51 PM
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Wow, so I just got this from Vitaliy Maxorin:

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Good day!
I myself am a programmer and I know for myself that for financial losses incurred due to errors in the source code the programmers are paid out of his pocket. I myself have several times carried a financial loss because of their mistakes. But no I will not reimburse my losses. I understand your request as a man, but I think it is not appropriate as a colleague. Excuse me, but I do not return the money you lost.

His email is MVitaliyB@mail.ru, he was over paid 47.30350378 BTC.  Too bad there are so many thieves in the world... sad.  WTG breaking that Russian stereotype to boot!  

the saddest is that he looks proud of not returning a MANUAL cashout aka explicit robbery!  turning himself shitlisted for 500bucks? for any ammount? damn...
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July 22, 2012, 05:16:56 PM
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http://myworld.ebay.com/mvitaliyb-ru
http://beta-kenterfie.hlsw.org/profile/838844/MVitaliyB
http://board.megashara.com/index.php?members/mvitaliyb.19832/

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Would it be bad of me to sign his email up on as many gay porn, boy lover, spam websites as possible?

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July 22, 2012, 05:26:11 PM
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Wow, so I just got this from Vitaliy Maxorin:

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I myself am a programmer and I know for myself that for financial losses incurred due to errors in the source code the programmers are paid out of his pocket. I myself have several times carried a financial loss because of their mistakes. But no I will not reimburse my losses. I understand your request as a man, but I think it is not appropriate as a colleague. Excuse me, but I do not return the money you lost.

His email is MVitaliyB@mail.ru, he was over paid 47.30350378 BTC.  Too bad there are so many thieves in the world... sad.  WTG breaking that Russian stereotype to boot!  

Seems this person took a page out of the bulanula playbook and thinks rationalising keeping the funds due to someone elses indirect mistake is justifiable.

Since bitcoins isnt directly refundable without the receiver having some grain of decency it doesnt mean people should ignore decency/good faith just because of this feature of bitcoin, absolutely disgusting.

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July 22, 2012, 05:30:14 PM
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Wow, so I just got this from Vitaliy Maxorin:

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Good day!
I myself am a programmer and I know for myself that for financial losses incurred due to errors in the source code the programmers are paid out of his pocket. I myself have several times carried a financial loss because of their mistakes. But no I will not reimburse my losses. I understand your request as a man, but I think it is not appropriate as a colleague. Excuse me, but I do not return the money you lost.

His email is MVitaliyB@mail.ru, he was over paid 47.30350378 BTC.  Too bad there are so many thieves in the world... sad.  WTG breaking that Russian stereotype to boot! 

Lame excuse for robbing a person, who helps you earn your btc. This just proves his stupidity, as everyone knows him now, and in long run he will loose much more.

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July 22, 2012, 05:50:47 PM
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Sorry to read about this Inaba.  Unfortunately, past experience on my end shows that you probably will end up with (at most) half the coins returned.  About a year ago when BTC Guild was proportional, I had a script record rewards for the same block many times.  The solution was requesting people pay back the extra, or mine it back (their accounts were updated to show negative rewards for the overpayments).  Over half the users affected either left the pool, or created a new account so they wouldn't have to pay it back.  Luckily the users that had the largest negative balance were honest and simply sent back the overpayment.

Hopefully "Mr Maxorian" will be the only large overpayment that acts proud about stealing from a pool.

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July 22, 2012, 06:05:52 PM
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Maybe we should give inaba some coins to cover his losses so that he doesn't run into any financial problems running his pool.

I might chip in a weeks worth of mining about 8 BTC atm. (that doesn't seem a lot but maybe it'll help if we find more people willing to do that)?

I was not overpaid as far as i know but i would invest it into having a stable pool.

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July 22, 2012, 06:10:15 PM
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Wow, so I just got this from Vitaliy Maxorin:

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I myself am a programmer and I know for myself that for financial losses incurred due to errors in the source code the programmers are paid out of his pocket. I myself have several times carried a financial loss because of their mistakes. But no I will not reimburse my losses. I understand your request as a man, but I think it is not appropriate as a colleague. Excuse me, but I do not return the money you lost.

His email is MVitaliyB@mail.ru, he was over paid 47.30350378 BTC.  Too bad there are so many thieves in the world... sad.  WTG breaking that Russian stereotype to boot! 

What a scumbag. I wish I had pressed cashout, I know I would pay back the btc. Note to self: In case anything like this occurs again, take it to return it, so scum like the one above doesn't get as much.

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July 22, 2012, 06:13:14 PM
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Another thing, just bumped my donation to 5% from 1% for a week, I know it's not much, but if others do something similar or donate one time amounts we can soften the blow.

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July 22, 2012, 06:14:42 PM
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thats a good idea i'll do that to 10 %:)

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July 22, 2012, 06:21:03 PM
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2012-07-21 10:07:34   15,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,HE4kXT   0.56672412   Manual

I was mining PPS and this was what was earned during.
Never arrived in my wallet. The address that was used has worked in the past.
I also have name coins that have been unconfirmed for a week or more.
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July 22, 2012, 06:37:37 PM
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Wow, so I just got this from Vitaliy Maxorin:
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Good day!
I myself am a programmer and I know for myself that for financial losses incurred due to errors in the source code the programmers are paid out of his pocket. I myself have several times carried a financial loss because of their mistakes. But no I will not reimburse my losses. I understand your request as a man, but I think it is not appropriate as a colleague. Excuse me, but I do not return the money you lost.
His email is MVitaliyB@mail.ru, he was over paid 47.30350378 BTC.  Too bad there are so many thieves in the world... sad.  WTG breaking that Russian stereotype to boot! 

Funny how he mentions reasons that are typical of a signed contract between parties when buying a service/code/etc... And even has the nerve to write back justifying his theft! Angry
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July 22, 2012, 06:45:01 PM
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thats a good idea i'll do that to 10 %:)

+1 for 10% here! C'mon ppl, Inaba has really been unwearying in getting Eclipse working day by day by day... He really deserves our help when things don't go as planned. Smiley
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July 22, 2012, 06:53:05 PM
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I myself am a programmer and I know for myself that for financial losses incurred due to errors in the source code the programmers are paid out of his pocket. I myself have several times carried a financial loss because of their mistakes. But no I will not reimburse my losses. I understand your request as a man, but I think it is not appropriate as a colleague. Excuse me, but I do not return the money you lost. 

The most bizarre part is that in bold, What losses did he incur? lmao

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July 22, 2012, 06:56:06 PM
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According to the stats there are currently 1020 miners. I suggest everyone of us send Inaba 1 BTC, then He'd be back on track!

I'm willing too even though I didn't get any extra payments, anyone else?


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July 22, 2012, 06:58:25 PM
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thats a good idea i'll do that to 10 %:)

+1 for 10% here! C'mon ppl, Inaba has really been unwearying in getting Eclipse working day by day by day... He really deserves our help when things don't go as planned. Smiley
This is a good idea, I will do 10% donation for a week too and suspend any payout to help the wallet heal.
As about the 27 years guy, I am pretty sad, I saw his name in top miners list, I even commented in a personal message while I was trying to contact pool owner that most likely this new guys come only to drain the pool wallet. I am quite sorry I didnt push the cash out twice to save more coins, but I was afraid it will be misinterpreted. After I saw coins actually leaving I quickly realized that they may be real coins flying away.
27 years old is a great age when people learn good lessons, maybe this guy will understand that his decision today can help this project add some extra trust for the future, beyond immediate gain, a gesture which will turn back to him later as a personal gain.

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July 22, 2012, 07:43:44 PM
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At the moment my account shows confirmed BTC of .005 and unconfirmed of -.005, totalling 0.

As far as I know I did not receive any unearned BTC but will I return earnings if you say I received funds I should not have.

However, I do not understand the negative unconfirmed balance.

Also, it would be good to have contact info available on the site - I believe I was online when the problem started and saw my unconfirmed balance start to grow 100x faster than was realistic, but could not find a phone/email/SMS contact on the site to report the problem. I realize some would misuse it, but early warning might have saved you some BTC. Or perhaps a "suspend payout" feature that disables payouts when activated by any 10 well-established or trusted users?
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July 22, 2012, 07:51:22 PM
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thats a good idea i'll do that to 10 %:)

+1 for 10% here! C'mon ppl, Inaba has really been unwearying in getting Eclipse working day by day by day... He really deserves our help when things don't go as planned. Smiley
I'll run mine on 10% for a week as well.

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July 22, 2012, 08:17:30 PM
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thats a good idea i'll do that to 10 %:)

+1 for 10% here! C'mon ppl, Inaba has really been unwearying in getting Eclipse working day by day by day... He really deserves our help when things don't go as planned. Smiley

+1 for 10% on my end. 

Inaba, how much are you out at the moment?

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