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July 29, 2013, 05:34:58 AM |
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The big take-away, is (for the umteenth time) if you give someone the ability to take your money, there is every possibility that they will do so. In Bitcoin-land it is a near certainty.
We can see that you keep going with your endless, paranoid, calomnious ranting even though you have been paid back in full. Why do you linger in bitcoinland then ? Why don't you tvbcof travel off to your paracoinland (Note: paracoin, strangely an anagram for paranoic, is tvbcof brainfart )? Boussac serves tybcof. tvbcof leaves. Was out for the weekend. Got another saw mill so I can have old barn wood in about 50 years. Band-mill to augment my swing-blade mill. Anyway... The etymology of 'para' is outlined in unnecessary detail front and center on the web site. 'paranoid' must be related to the Greek 'para' root but I'm not exactly sure how. It is true that I tend to be 'paranoid' about a lot of things. To use one example, I was paranoid that the government was inflating and inventing evidence of 'weapons of mass destruction' to seek justification for war on Iraq. I've also been highly paranoid about the kinds of dossiers which are being compiled about individuals by our version of the STASI here in the US. In short, an impressive percentage of the things I've been paranoid about, and which have made my friends believe that I am a bit wacko, have turned out to be at least partially true, and in some cases more true than I even feared. I actually don't have many theories, but do have multiple simultaneous hypothesis for almost everything. Again, in the case of Bitcoin-Central, it is at this point completely possible that Boussac-n-co cleaned up to the tune of millions of USD by 'borrowing' our funds while the value fell by half or so. As always I welcome any solid information which can either lend strength or argue against this hypothesis. So far Bitcoin-Central has not seen fit to produce much by way of verifiable information, but things are still in flux to it is currently understandable.
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sig spam anywhere and self-moderated threads on the pol&soc board are for losers.
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Phinnaeus Gage
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July 29, 2013, 05:54:08 AM |
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This is odd! Notice the list is in alphabetical order and stops at 1Qxxxxxxx..... https://blockchain.info/address/19vZF13np1n33xBBxw6v2vbnC37P1UXpGN112AQsZm6kvYvtFh3kLFonmDDQxKUHiyKw 0.0017422 XBT ...
Are we led to believe that not a single person qualified to receive coins at this time had a wallet address starting with 1S... to 1Z...? Overall, good show! Phinn, there are no addresses starting with 1S... to 1Z... No current Bitcoin address beginning with 1 can be past 1QLbz7JHiBTspS962RLKV8GndWFwiEaqKL, alphabetically. My bad! I wasn't aware that the alphabet ended at 1Q on the blockchain: https://blockchain.info/address/1Hz8MDxpgS9QNxQf7BBr3b4ee5HjGhXFa111oGZ7njCAZDascc3irC2xERVccoK3YgU 2.02827771 BTC 121CvA5JJgdQVJM46qY1Ztx1QpQXRJcHwF 0.03786209 BTC 124c3RQZcebraEtF9dHPfaJzA4jgrKcSjj 0.03215835 BTC 12CU2bXxitZzDHhTcqj8f7DkJ7nY1bRbvB 0.01785311 BTC 12EdrKXcSzr3wwxAXDtrXEaKgrjZ6jcFBm 0.00265 BTC 12iBzgw2DNhUwoJ2U3WyPyc2T6s8BNrezn 0.00134 BTC 12K5GYSQLbY7uxJRDMKLW8JRR6sbKUKKN8 1.91396 BTC 12qZakjqs8FK4LDxRti9EhaPkmo1YCvPvr 21.139 BTC 12tncDMcX4ez9xua759rQ21dnQ6DEj9WUZ 0.007169 BTC 12TNSMqZQC2tfj7hHXhTRMuaB5eB2kZKGy 1.49 BTC 12tV7vomnXMpJdBwxP3pKRquNnrmmYEdLD 0.9 BTC 12UMFRgkesJU16C9kdxeXFpC8re8yKD8eM 0.0202 BTC 12wQ81wdRWxnQ744crEynmUUYMPjDZUon5 14.8589604 BTC 12XAu1wyDznGLMU66AUGGTvx853kkWASiB 33.114 BTC 12xopDQxY1aAMnKoCyGzmTtgLrUeMz85xc 9.181 BTC 12Z9kLzS5mWRsX5P74usCsVyt4A57E7qzk 5.7163 BTC 12ZPtydPj3Fdp51XrZv6BhUzWukoTiE2rA 0.10067789 BTC 136mHqh3MH3TTjxc3J41HkdrD8r4eiPy4S 0.01632299 BTC 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Hello Phinnaeus, you seem to have some sort of issue. It is commonly seen as a constructive thing to clearly express a problem in order to find a solution. The faggotry of suggesting statistical anomalies without backing them up with numbers, stalking me on the blockchain, and generally loitering around while giving us the evil look never achieved anything for anyone. You seem angry, do something about it. I actually don't have many theories, but do have multiple simultaneous hypothesis for almost everything. Again, in the case of Bitcoin-Central, it is at this point completely possible that Boussac-n-co cleaned up to the tune of millions of USD by 'borrowing' our funds while the value fell by half or so. As always I welcome any solid information which can either lend strength or argue against this hypothesis. So far Bitcoin-Central has not seen fit to produce much by way of verifiable information, but things are still in flux to it is currently understandable.
How do I put this... You've been paid, in full. Yet you keep questioning us, making half-assed theories without ever accusing us directly. You don't need to be a frenchman to see how that's extremely rude and inconsiderate. You also seem to expect us to provide you with some sort of additionnal information, I'm unsure about what makes you feel entitled to such a thing. You have every right to be paranoid, but this is not the place for it. If you are happy about the way we handled things feel free to express it here. If you're unhappy about it, or have complaints, express them here, or privately, whichever you prefer. If you have questions feel free, if you have suggestions, feel free. Now, if you have conspiracy theories either go make a proper scam accusations thread, or go make a my-conspiracy-theories one and see what happens. TL;DR : Please take your rude and off-topic bullshit elsewhere (and that one's for you too Phinnaeus).
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The epic saga is over. Finally got my BTC back. All of them. I needed to confirm them by visiting the secret URL again and missed the first wave of payments. Should the page be more specific about this?
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1 confirmation and counting. Thank you Boussac, Davout and the team. I honestly didn't expect to get all my coins back when this happened and you have done what you said you would do whilst dealing with some pretty angry people. Massive respect for everything you have done. It could not have been easy. Thank you Steelboy! It's been a tedious process, but the end result is what counts.
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Received both my claims last Friday and I only confirmed the claims for payout on the 19/07 when I bumped into this thread.
Hope everyone gets it's coins back.
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1 confirmation and counting. Thank you Boussac, Davout and the team. I honestly didn't expect to get all my coins back when this happened and you have done what you said you would do whilst dealing with some pretty angry people. Massive respect for everything you have done. It could not have been easy. Thank you Steelboy! It's been a tedious process, but the end result is what counts. You're welcome. My happiness at receiving my coins nearly made me forget about another wallet that I was talking with Davout about in IRC. I have sent a PM about it (the wallet with 232 if you remember Davout.) If I could find out anymore about this then that would be great.
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I actually don't have many theories, but do have multiple simultaneous hypothesis for almost everything. Again, in the case of Bitcoin-Central, it is at this point completely possible that Boussac-n-co cleaned up to the tune of millions of USD by 'borrowing' our funds while the value fell by half or so. As always I welcome any solid information which can either lend strength or argue against this hypothesis. So far Bitcoin-Central has not seen fit to produce much by way of verifiable information, but things are still in flux to it is currently understandable.
How do I put this... You've been paid, in full. Yet you keep questioning us, making half-assed theories without ever accusing us directly. You don't need to be a frenchman to see how that's extremely rude and inconsiderate. You also seem to expect us to provide you with some sort of additionnal information, I'm unsure about what makes you feel entitled to such a thing. You have every right to be paranoid, but this is not the place for it. If you are happy about the way we handled things feel free to express it here. If you're unhappy about it, or have complaints, express them here, or privately, whichever you prefer. If you have questions feel free, if you have suggestions, feel free. Now, if you have conspiracy theories either go make a proper scam accusations thread, or go make a my-conspiracy-theories one and see what happens. TL;DR : Please take your rude and off-topic bullshit elsewhere (and that one's for you too Phinnaeus). TL;DR: Dude! Chill. The honest truth is that I am trying to help a brother out here. LV (Longer Version): You seem to be trying to run an international effort based on the sensibilities of the French. I'm telling you that in many parts of the world you attitude is not at all appreciated. I think that if you eventually manage to grok this you will probably have more success in your business efforts. I think that a lot of people share my perception that in business and in other fields, the French tend to be a bit snotty and defensive. And often fairly unreliable to say the honest truth. I find it highly admirable that Asiana who recently wreaked a passenger jet as SFO came out with a sincere apology and were appropriately conciliatory. Most importantly they did not deny their mistakes but rather outlined procedural changes in a transparent manner to make them less likely going forward. Generally speaking an organization who will demonstrate an attitude of treating their customers as peers and part of the team in making things better will appeal to a large segment of humanity. Those who are defensive and opaque will not. The French may get away with this attitude if they tended to create things which were one of cheap or reliable and solid, but that does not seem to be a strong point of theirs...and the results speak for themselves on the world stage. I have the mind of a scientist. I've simply presented some possibilities which have the power to explain some observations which remain mysterious. Being able to analyze all potential hypothesis without discarding any as being 'rude' or 'politically incorrect' or 'unorthodox' is what gives the scientific method it's amazing power to explain our environment. Nothing personal. Indeed, I've presented alternate hypotheses, observations which argue against the one which paints Bitcoin-Central as scammers, and my personal view that the 'incompetence' hypothesis is the strongest. (That is, lacking the competence to mollify your negatively effected customer base.) I've also defended many of your actions based on arguments of timing and tactics, and characterized your reconciliation strategy and execution as very good. As I've already said, this is not about the money to me. I had only a small fraction of my BTC at risk with Instawallet since I always considered it unreliable and was always prepared to walk away from my funds. I'm glad to have it back, so if I've not already thanked you, 'thanks.' At this point it is more about my genuinely desire to see you guys succeed if, for no other reason, we need more successful participants in the space you are trying to operate. Unfortunately you guys are showing every indication of retreating further into your shell of denial and defensiveness. So, your pool of customers is likely to be drawn mostly from those who are new and ignorant of Bitcoin history.
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Is it possible for someone at Instawallet Enterprises to get back to me regarding the status of my claim? The last thing I heard was on 20 July which stated I would probably be paid back on 26 July, that didn't happen. I know you are busy, but I'm probably not alone when I say it'd be nice to see a response to a legitimate inquiry before arguing with others here on btctalk... especially when I've done everything y'all have instructed me to do from the beginning of the entire claims process. I've been very patient with this, but lack of correspondence which would probably take 30 seconds of time encourages people like me to ask questions publicly instead of privately. Please send me a PM with an update if you can spare that 30 seconds. Thank you.
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Is it possible for someone at Instawallet Enterprises to get back to me regarding the status of my claim? The last thing I heard was on 20 July which stated I would probably be paid back on 26 July, that didn't happen. I know you are busy, but I'm probably not alone when I say it'd be nice to see a response to a legitimate inquiry before arguing with others here on btctalk... especially when I've done everything y'all have instructed me to do from the beginning of the entire claims process. I've been very patient with this, but lack of correspondence which would probably take 30 seconds of time encourages people like me to ask questions publicly instead of privately. Please send me a PM with an update if you can spare that 30 seconds. Thank you.
It's interesting. No matter how busy I've been in life, I've always been able to handle incoming e-mails, sometimes only to the effect of: Busy, will write you back during the weekend. I guess some people lack this capability..
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UPDATE
The third payout batch was just sent. Tx ID is
'490a3ec2fb1bdb8a6f8fdcdba66376afdc6519f6560ac14c96452f1c6a86aad4'.
Next payout date is Friday, August 9 at 4PM CEST.
We wish you all a great week.
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Phinnaeus Gage
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Hello Phinnaeus, you seem to have some sort of issue. It is commonly seen as a constructive thing to clearly express a problem in order to find a solution. The faggotry of suggesting statistical anomalies without backing them up with numbers, stalking me on the blockchain, and generally loitering around while giving us the evil look never achieved anything for anyone. You seem angry, do something about it. I actually don't have many theories, but do have multiple simultaneous hypothesis for almost everything. Again, in the case of Bitcoin-Central, it is at this point completely possible that Boussac-n-co cleaned up to the tune of millions of USD by 'borrowing' our funds while the value fell by half or so. As always I welcome any solid information which can either lend strength or argue against this hypothesis. So far Bitcoin-Central has not seen fit to produce much by way of verifiable information, but things are still in flux to it is currently understandable.
How do I put this... You've been paid, in full. Yet you keep questioning us, making half-assed theories without ever accusing us directly. You don't need to be a frenchman to see how that's extremely rude and inconsiderate. You also seem to expect us to provide you with some sort of additionnal information, I'm unsure about what makes you feel entitled to such a thing. You have every right to be paranoid, but this is not the place for it. If you are happy about the way we handled things feel free to express it here. If you're unhappy about it, or have complaints, express them here, or privately, whichever you prefer. If you have questions feel free, if you have suggestions, feel free. Now, if you have conspiracy theories either go make a proper scam accusations thread, or go make a my-conspiracy-theories one and see what happens. TL;DR : Please take your rude and off-topic bullshit elsewhere (and that one's for you too Phinnaeus). I was not stalking you on Blockchain. I repeat, I WAS NOT STALKING YOU ON BLOCKCHAIN. I found the address via a link that Boussac provided. I just read down the list and stumbled upon the name Davout of which I even had to make sure it was the correct spelling of your name and that I wasn't just reading a random string of letters incorrectly. After I confirmed that it was indeed your name, I did then look at your other transactions, of which if there was anything inappropriate going on, I don't think you would have used said address, thus nothing to see there (I don't believe). I now do find it odd that you're using a rather defensive tone. In France, are they not familiar with the sugar/vinegar analogy?
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Phinnaeus Gage
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August 01, 2013, 05:17:04 PM |
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UPDATE
The third payout batch was just sent. Tx ID is
'490a3ec2fb1bdb8a6f8fdcdba66376afdc6519f6560ac14c96452f1c6a86aad4'.
Next payout date is Thursday, August 9 at 4PM CEST.
We wish you all a great week.
Link?
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giszmo
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ok, so now I have all the bitcoins reclaimed I had asked for. I wonder what will happen with the other 5 bitcoins I handed out and that recipients might only get aware of when it's worth thousands of dollars. will they sue me for falsely having claimed their money? did they claim them? what will happen to the money if nobody claims it, or did a full list of all wallets leak? in the latter case, is there a link? I'd be curious to see the non-random ones.
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August 07, 2013, 01:24:47 AM |
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The epic saga is over. Finally got my BTC back. All of them. I needed to confirm them by visiting the secret URL again and missed the first wave of payments. Should the page be more specific about this?
I am so confused. Did we have to go back to our wallet url and "confirm" our claim again after making our initial claim? I have visited my wallet url multiple times since making my initial claim, and never saw anything to "confirm" my claim, or identity. My wallet still has status listed as MULTI_CLAIM and says "Flagged for Review due to multiple/conflicting claims This wallet has been flagged for review or further identification is needed before releasing a payout." I have a wallet that has mutliple claims because I accidentally claimed it twice. Who do I need to contact for this? Thanks!
If you put the same address in both claims, you should have been paid by now. I can infer from your message that you accidentally put two different addresses. We would like to make sure which one we are supposed to use for your payout. Please contact arsy or myself with your claim numbers and amount. Even though both claims are actually mine b/c I accidentally double submitted. I can see the above user had an identical problem. Are these types of claims just going to be last on the list, or is it because I have a smaller amount of btc? @brickhouse434 did you finally get paid? I don't have a problem with waiting, I just want to make sure I am not "missing" something on my part I need to do to get my payout.
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August 07, 2013, 05:41:22 PM |
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The epic saga is over. Finally got my BTC back. All of them. I needed to confirm them by visiting the secret URL again and missed the first wave of payments. Should the page be more specific about this?
I am so confused. Did we have to go back to our wallet url and "confirm" our claim again after making our initial claim? I have visited my wallet url multiple times since making my initial claim, and never saw anything to "confirm" my claim, or identity. My wallet still has status listed as MULTI_CLAIM and says "Flagged for Review due to multiple/conflicting claims This wallet has been flagged for review or further identification is needed before releasing a payout." I have a wallet that has mutliple claims because I accidentally claimed it twice. Who do I need to contact for this? Thanks!
If you put the same address in both claims, you should have been paid by now. I can infer from your message that you accidentally put two different addresses. We would like to make sure which one we are supposed to use for your payout. Please contact arsy or myself with your claim numbers and amount. Even though both claims are actually mine b/c I accidentally double submitted. I can see the above user had an identical problem. Are these types of claims just going to be last on the list, or is it because I have a smaller amount of btc? @brickhouse434 did you finally get paid? I don't have a problem with waiting, I just want to make sure I am not "missing" something on my part I need to do to get my payout. Not yet but I just got a private message from user "arsy" who seems to be the one processing the multiple claims wallets. He says there will be another payout this Friday. Try sending him a PM!
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Boussac (OP)
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e-ducat.fr
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August 09, 2013, 01:23:14 PM |
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UPDATE
The fourth payout batch was just sent. Tx ID is
'3f0f291a2807a47566e948a162d8db0bf80dc459435d6e1c9843b656c451ec04'.
Next payout date is Monday, August 19 at 4PM CEST.
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steelboy
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August 09, 2013, 08:21:17 PM |
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UPDATE
The fourth payout batch was just sent. Tx ID is
'3f0f291a2807a47566e948a162d8db0bf80dc459435d6e1c9843b656c451ec04'.
Next payout date is Monday, August 19 at 4PM CEST.
Any news on the wallet I have mentioned in previous posts?
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ddrews
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August 10, 2013, 09:40:22 AM |
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Hi Davout and Boussac
Is there any chance of helping somebody out that missed the opportunity to file a claim? I stupidly mistook the final date for the claims process, and due to circumstances I won't bore you with, I missed my chance. I'm sure you're busy and I appreciate the lengths you are going to to return the funds to all your users, but any assistance you could provide me would be greatly appreciated. I would very much like to get all my coins back.
Thank you kindly.
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