Avalon batch [2] countdown!

[bablovagon]

Today, almost no news about orders?
Avalon has thrown a bone and decided to remain silent on?
 

How many orders batch [2] were eventually accepted ?

[crazyearner]

Today, almost no news about orders?
Avalon has thrown a bone and decided to remain silent on?
 

How many orders batch [2] were eventually accepted ?

600 for batch #2 600 for batch #3 and they are looking to do batch 4 with smaller modual's that are around 45GH or their about.

[jspielberg]

I am not sure if all 600 were sold for B2 (I haven't seen any confirmation, but I guess we can assume it was fully floated).
There is also the trade-in batches, which are an unknown quantity.
I think I read that all 600 B3s were sold.

My guess -- if chips ship before batch 4 orders are opened... there won't be much interest in a fourth batch.  I don't think there has been any limits stated on chip orders other than they are planning on taking orders through the end 2013.

[tempt]

I am not sure if all 600 were sold for B2 (I haven't seen any confirmation, but I guess we can assume it was fully floated).
There is also the trade-in batches, which are an unknown quantity.
I think I read that all 600 B3s were sold.

My guess -- if chips ship before batch 4 orders are opened... there won't be much interest in a fourth batch.  I don't think there has been any limits stated on chip orders other than they are planning on taking orders through the end 2013.

Avalon calculates their price accordingly to the current difficulty.

[koob]

Avalon calculates their price accordingly to the current difficulty.

But they dont calculate delays

[Raize]

So are these just the developer orders ahead of the trade-ins? It doesn't look like it.

I think because the price is so much higher and the likelihood of getting ROI is so much lower for the regular Batch #2 orders, they are going back on their promise of doing the trade-ins first. This is not honoring their word, but is probably more "fair".

The whole premise of trading in the Icarus was based on the idea we'd get the Avalons soon after sending in the Icarus, though. Not that I'm too upset, it seems like the guys that paid upwards of 50-60 BTC on February 2nd (Batch #2 part 1) and 16th (part 2) do deserve to have theirs shipped first (hell, even I have some orders in that timeframe as well), but again, at the time I ordered I was under the impression that I was doing a trade-in order whereby the details would be worked out afterward, so now I still have little to no idea what is going on or how "special" I actually am.

I do know that I am missing a few BTC that my Icarus weren't able to mine the last three weeks or so since they were in operation, however. I have to imagine there are some guys who did 0 Batch #2 regular orders but sent in 10-15 Icarus that are going to be quite upset about this. My condolences in advance to those in such a predicament.

Doesn't seem like there's a way they can both honor their word to the trade-ins and remain fair to those early batch #2 orders here, and they sided on the "being fair" end. I don't fault them, I just wish they had communicated this to the community first.

[WinTame2012]

I have to imagine there are some guys who did 0 Batch #2 regular orders but sent in 10-15 Icarus that are going to be quite upset about this.

I wonder if those guys sent in 10-15 FPGA units realized that each 1 Icarus/Lancelot is only eligible trade-in for only 1 Avalon ASIC unit? So those who sent 10 FPGA rigs should be ready to pay for 10 Avalons (NN BTC each) to get trade-ins done.

[rudrigorc2]

So are these just the developer orders ahead of the trade-ins? It doesn't look like it.

I think because the price is so much higher and the likelihood of getting ROI is so much lower for the regular Batch #2 orders, they are going back on their promise of doing the trade-ins first. This is not honoring their word, but is probably more "fair".

The whole premise of trading in the Icarus was based on the idea we'd get the Avalons soon after sending in the Icarus, though. Not that I'm too upset, it seems like the guys that paid upwards of 50-60 BTC on February 2nd (Batch #2 part 1) and 16th (part 2) do deserve to have theirs shipped first (hell, even I have some orders in that timeframe as well), but again, at the time I ordered I was under the impression that I was doing a trade-in order whereby the details would be worked out afterward, so now I still have little to no idea what is going on or how "special" I actually am.

I do know that I am missing a few BTC that my Icarus weren't able to mine the last three weeks or so since they were in operation, however. I have to imagine there are some guys who did 0 Batch #2 regular orders but sent in 10-15 Icarus that are going to be quite upset about this. My condolences in advance to those in such a predicament.

Doesn't seem like there's a way they can both honor their word to the trade-ins and remain fair to those early batch #2 orders here, and they sided on the "being fair" end. I don't fault them, I just wish they had communicated this to the community first.

Yifu, stated that tradein and regular orders have separate queues, so, in my understanding, the priority handling means tradein will be shipping at the same time as regular costumers. Like in parallel lines. If this is the case, its fair and honors the old costumers without screwing with the new ones, but in this scenario only the lucky ones from the random pick for the 20 units can be considered special.

[Keninishna]

So whats a realistic date to expect my avalon? I ordered and paid 2/3. My guess is mid to late june if they still don't have the SMT machines up and I'm not a trade in customer.

[Minor Miner]

So whats a realistic date to expect my avalon? I ordered and paid 2/3. My guess is mid to late june if they still don't have the SMT machines up and I'm not a trade in customer.

I believe that date would be 3-4 days after they stop mining with it and decide they have stolen enough bitcoins.

[snaxion]

So whats a realistic date to expect my avalon? I ordered and paid 2/3. My guess is mid to late june if they still don't have the SMT machines up and I'm not a trade in customer.

All my friends keep hounding me about when my miners will be here too. I finally just told them maybe never. 

[therustytrombone]

So whats a realistic date to expect my avalon? I ordered and paid 2/3. My guess is mid to late june if they still don't have the SMT machines up and I'm not a trade in customer.

I believe that date would be 3-4 days after they stop mining with it and decide they have stolen enough bitcoins.

I you were one of my customers and said stuff like this, I would refund your money and blacklist you.

 

[tiananmenqian]

I'm desperate.

[Minor Miner]

So whats a realistic date to expect my avalon? I ordered and paid 2/3. My guess is mid to late june if they still don't have the SMT machines up and I'm not a trade in customer.

I believe that date would be 3-4 days after they stop mining with it and decide they have stolen enough bitcoins.

I you were one of my customers and said stuff like this, I would refund your money and blacklist you.

So, if you took my money and used my money to build a product you are making profits off and I was angry that you refuse to keep my updated on what you are doing with my money, you would try to "give me back" my money after you had used it for your own personal gain (financing a business that makes a profit)?
Then, you sir, would have a serious problem.   Not just an ethical problem, but a legal one too. 

[Keninishna]

So whats a realistic date to expect my avalon? I ordered and paid 2/3. My guess is mid to late june if they still don't have the SMT machines up and I'm not a trade in customer.

I believe that date would be 3-4 days after they stop mining with it and decide they have stolen enough bitcoins.

If this is the case, assuming a 10% diff increase every two weeks, probably mid july because they still need to get batch 3 out and then that way batch 3 owners can barely get an roi. Unless btc price goes up then it could be longer but at least asicminer will be putting pressure on avalon to put out.

[tiananmenqian]

Mother said patience

But I'm going crazy

[kano]

So whats a realistic date to expect my avalon? I ordered and paid 2/3. My guess is mid to late june if they still don't have the SMT machines up and I'm not a trade in customer.

I believe that date would be 3-4 days after they stop mining with it and decide they have stolen enough bitcoins.

I you were one of my customers and said stuff like this, I would refund your money and blacklist you.

So, if you took my money and used my money to build a product you are making profits off and I was angry that you refuse to keep my updated on what you are doing with my money, you would try to "give me back" my money after you had used it for your own personal gain (financing a business that makes a profit)?
Then, you sir, would have a serious problem.   Not just an ethical problem, but a legal one too. 

Hmm I wonder what caused the couple of TH/s drop in the last few days
Probably just random ...

[SellingMyGPUs]

So whats a realistic date to expect my avalon? I ordered and paid 2/3. My guess is mid to late june if they still don't have the SMT machines up and I'm not a trade in customer.

I believe that date would be 3-4 days after they stop mining with it and decide they have stolen enough bitcoins.

I've always laughed away the idea they are mining with the equipment, but look at this picture of a batch #1 machine that was received yesterday:

http://s21.postimg.org/bej5j8ul2/005.jpg

That is dust from either a very dirty workshop during burnin or an 8 weeks burnin?

See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141154.msg2175901#msg2175901

[Bowjob]

my house is about to get forclosed.. i need that avalon

[cedivad]

my house is about to get forclosed.. i need that avalon

You are joking right?