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September 26, 2013, 11:23:27 PM
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It is chips before they go into a package which goes into some kind of sealed packing which goes into a courier's luggage which goes to Sweden, or something like that. So quite possibly the last chance to get a photo of them before the sealed packing material is unsealed at the factory to be fed into the assembly machines - oh and a few snipped off to test and prototype with while the assembly machines churn away maybe.

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September 26, 2013, 11:26:44 PM
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ok, might be as you stated out. so Day1 is then Friday and Day2 Monday, right?

Why do people wait until Sunday to buy their Sunday newspaper instead of picking it up when the printer closes at 5:30 or so friday evening?

Or don't you have Sunday papers where you come from?

Why wait for morning to get your morning paper, instead of picking it up from the printer at 5:30 the evening before when the printer closes?

Sheesh! Capital machinery is like bitcoin mining rigs, you pay 24/7 interest on the capital it took to get the damn things, you think everyone is going to run it 8 hours a day, 5 days a week?

Day 1 is presumably the first day the machines are pouring out rigs into courier trucks and day two the second day the machines are pouring out rigs into courier trucks.

Maybe day 1 starts at midnight tonight... But midnight by where's timezone? Maybe it is already midnight somewhere!

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Newspapers aren't assembled by hand. Rolls of paper go into the press and bundles of papers roll out into the loading bay. I served my apprenticeship in the newspaper press business. They are picked up and delivered late Saturday night in some cases too which is why they are on news progs on telly late Saturday night.. The machinery producing the boards will run 24/7 from the start of production until it's all done with no day1 or day 2 and no stopping except for breakdown and maintenance if needed ...that's just a line in the sand for us that doesn't matter at all at their end as long as the right numbers can be produced to ship what they promised on day1 and day2. If you got a day2 order on day1 which is likely for someone ..you'd care less wouldn't you?

The machines are pouring out parts to assemblers, not into trucks...we've been through all that already. I thought it was all going to be automated too until it was proved otherwise. They will need putting together and the pool details entering and testing and packing securely , and for some the hosting setup sorting. Not an instant process. Not something they have done before either in this volume is it?

I don't want a rushed rig, something that arrives a day late and doesn't last due to some easily avoided fault or lack of testing. Losing a day or two of early mining pales to nothing compared to what you'd lose if it broke...as BFL customers found out in some cases.

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September 26, 2013, 11:30:51 PM
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I don't want a rushed rig, something that arrives a day late and doesn't last due to some easily avoided fault or lack of testing.
This is definitely a big worry, especially for those taking delivery. You could lose days, a week or more of mining sending it back to Sweden for repairs.

I hope, even if they rush the first batch out the door, they go back to a proper and full testing/burn-in procedure for the later rigs.

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September 26, 2013, 11:32:33 PM
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It is chips before they go into a package which goes into some kind of sealed packing which goes into a courier's luggage which goes to Sweden, or something like that. So quite possibly the last chance to get a photo of them before the sealed packing material is unsealed at the factory to be fed into the assembly machines - oh and a few snipped off to test and prototype with while the assembly machines churn away maybe.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_circuit_packaging nothing to do with plastic bags or couriers. Daft term Smiley
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September 26, 2013, 11:32:46 PM
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Losing two shifts a day plus two days a week doesn't sound great either.

I have worked evenings and nights, neither shift seemed more rushed than the day shift.

In fact often evening and night shifts can be more relaxed because they aren't exposed to "visitors" and "touring dignitaries" and so on.

So I don't see how running shifts necessitates doing a sloppy job.

More likely the sloppiest people would be on the day shift, as more "management" and higher "management" tends to be around in the day shift to keep an eye on them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_circuit_packaging nothing to do with plastic bags or couriers. Daft term Smiley

I meant that the chips go to be packaged like wikipedia said, and from there in moisture-proof packaging by courier to Sweden or wherever.

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September 26, 2013, 11:34:31 PM
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SO I don't see how running shits necessitates doing a sloppy job.
running shits are very sloppy Cheesy Grin

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September 26, 2013, 11:35:14 PM
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So I "Ignored" all the Trolls, posers, wannabes and FUD spreaders, and now I am left with only Sam from KNC, and i'm wondering if I should ignore him as well.

But the orders and e-mails and PMs are pouring in for the newest Colored Batch Producers. I'm going to make a killing, being the first to have stock in these.

BTW pre-orders are still available, just send me a PM.

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September 26, 2013, 11:35:25 PM
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I don't want a rushed rig, something that arrives a day late and doesn't last due to some easily avoided fault or lack of testing.
This is definitely a big worry, especially for those taking delivery. You could lose days, a week or more of mining sending it back to Sweden for repairs.

I hope, even if they rush the first batch out the door, they go back to a proper and full testing procedure for the later rigs.

Actually, for a bigger rig maybe not to bad if the modules can be sent back and replaced? You could have one in a day and send the bad one back with no real rush?
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September 26, 2013, 11:37:14 PM
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I'll bet people get my Colored Batch producers before KNC ships their Miners to their first Buyers.

Anyone want to bet?

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September 26, 2013, 11:55:34 PM
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I have seen this very lame tendency to bash people over and over. Why do you order anything which carry an inherent risk? Go to Walmart! No risk there. If it breaks take it back and get another one. I think some people just have this impulsive disease. They just must complain! There are drugs for that. They make you drool all day and not remember anything. How about taking some of those? Would that help? Guess not because you wouldn't be complaining!
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September 26, 2013, 11:57:37 PM
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We're you just complaining about complainers?
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September 27, 2013, 12:16:35 AM
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It is chips before they go into a package which goes into some kind of sealed packing which goes into a courier's luggage which goes to Sweden, or something like that. So quite possibly the last chance to get a photo of them before the sealed packing material is unsealed at the factory to be fed into the assembly machines - oh and a few snipped off to test and prototype with while the assembly machines churn away maybe.

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A chip before it goes into packaging is a flat silicon wafer square, that photo is way more than one of those, it looks like the complete package minus the lid.

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September 27, 2013, 12:16:51 AM
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ok, might be as you stated out. so Day1 is then Friday and Day2 Monday, right?

Why do people wait until Sunday to buy their Sunday newspaper instead of picking it up when the printer closes at 5:30 or so friday evening?

Or don't you have Sunday papers where you come from?

Why wait for morning to get your morning paper, instead of picking it up from the printer at 5:30 the evening before when the printer closes?

Sheesh! Capital machinery is like bitcoin mining rigs, you pay 24/7 interest on the capital it took to get the damn things, you think everyone is going to run it 8 hours a day, 5 days a week?

Day 1 is presumably the first day the machines are pouring out rigs into courier trucks and day two the second day the machines are pouring out rigs into courier trucks.

Maybe day 1 starts at midnight tonight... But midnight by where's timezone? Maybe it is already midnight somewhere!

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Newspapers aren't assembled by hand. Rolls of paper go into the press and bundles of papers roll out into the loading bay. I served my apprenticeship in the newspaper press business. They are picked up and delivered late Saturday night in some cases too which is why they are on news progs on telly late Saturday night.. The machinery producing the boards will run 24/7 from the start of production until it's all done with no day1 or day 2 and no stopping except for breakdown and maintenance if needed ...that's just a line in the sand for us that doesn't matter at all at their end as long as the right numbers can be produced to ship what they promised on day1 and day2. If you got a day2 order on day1 which is likely for someone ..you'd care less wouldn't you?





You're leaving out that now the paper is written, is the word typeset still used?, say in NYC, then transmitted to satellites then towns across the county have a factory looking building with a sat downlink which shoots the image to whatever they use now-a-days.  In the '80's they moved away from cameras and to something called newsplaters.  Big scanner devices.  Early use of the revolving disk with mirrors like you see in checkout scanners.  The news was beamed to a revolving disk with flat mirrors, the disk of course was spinning very fast.  As each new mirror moved under the beam a new line feed happened.  This reflection onto an aluminum sheet having a special coating that was then the image of the newpage.  So, if you were comparing newspapers that had lead type mashing down onto paper, bundled and sent off to cities via aircraft, like the ASICs from China to Sweden, doesn't happen with newspapers that way any more.



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September 27, 2013, 12:18:52 AM
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This is our Facility with WORKING Easter Egg Colored Batch Producers. Currently hatshing at 400 CEE/S



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Okay, how are the eggs getting out from under the chickens to the tray?



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September 27, 2013, 12:22:10 AM
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Chill people.  Your miners will show up magically in your mailbox on Oct 1st   Keep hope alive...

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they roll out. its slanted.

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This is our Facility with WORKING Easter Egg Colored Batch Producers. Currently hatshing at 400 CEE/S



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Okay, how are the eggs getting out from under the chickens to the tray?

We cannot reveal All of our secrets , as our competitors will eventually catch up with us, but constant innovations keep us 3 steps ahead, and when our latest Bath Producers arrive at our facility, we will reveal specs on the Chicken to Egg Tray issue, everyone is clamoring about.
   I hope this serves to chill some nerves around here, I know people were getting antsy and even suspicious, but we can now confirm these are real pics of our Facility.

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I will organize a group buy.
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Proof they're hashing:


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This is our Facility with WORKING Easter Egg Colored Batch Producers. Currently hatshing at 400 CEE/S



We Bring the Future To You

Okay, how are the eggs getting out from under the chickens to the tray?

We cannot reveal All of our secrets , as our competitors will eventually catch up with us, but constant innovations keep us 3 steps ahead, and when our latest Bath Producers arrive at our facility, we will reveal specs on the Chicken to Egg Tray issue, everyone is clamoring about.
   I hope this serves to chill some nerves around here, I know people were getting antsy and even suspicious, but we can now confirm these are real pics of our Facility.
Yes, I see under the Big Dutchman, chicken feet.  Feed must be passing before the chickens just above where the eggs roll out.



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