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April 08, 2014, 06:22:39 PM
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* 2tights LOL @ all the KNC FUD disbelievers.


I find this absolutely hysterical that you all persist in this thread to beat this dead horse, further. Christ... move on to greener pastures. KNC is O V E R... we missed the golden months of late 2013 when they were still honest and valuable to the community. They are now a cancer. Stop feeding the cancer, people.

who's we?    most of us were in the boat from the beginning and just pop in here to remind any new folk about that cancer you mentioned

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April 08, 2014, 06:23:23 PM
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I think I must practice my English lol

First clear sentence you have ever composed.

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April 08, 2014, 06:29:20 PM
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Wow, how the mighty have fallen! I have lost all respect for Knc.

Even the option of receiving 3TH worth of Jupiters in April is pretty poor considering one can buy 3TH worth of Dragon's or Antminer S2s for less than 10k. Ants and Dragons are also more power efficient than Jupiters.

I'm not sure how anyone can make an intelligent argument as to why it would make sense to not refund now.
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April 08, 2014, 06:39:20 PM
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I think I must practice my English lol

First clear sentence you have ever composed.



Honestly, dude's got ballz for posting in a forum that is not his first language. He's trying at least. That's more than we can say for KnC.
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April 08, 2014, 06:41:13 PM
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April 08, 2014, 06:55:22 PM
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Wow, how the mighty have fallen! I have lost all respect for Knc.

Even the option of receiving 3TH worth of Jupiters in April is pretty poor considering one can buy 3TH worth of Dragon's or Antminer S2s for less than 10k. Ants and Dragons are also more power efficient than Jupiters.

I'm not sure how anyone can make an intelligent argument as to why it would make sense to not refund now.

Agreed, just asked for a refund in BTC, hope they will do it instead of bankwire.
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April 08, 2014, 06:57:31 PM
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Anyone who is surprised knc will not be shipping until June has not been reading the writing on the walls, e.g. this from last DECEMBER:

Q2 begins in 3 months, 2 weeks.... not seven months... and the ststement said q1/q2, so could be sooner.
KNC have shipped *everything* late. Even, somehow, boards they had in stock  Grin So they have a 100% track record of delivering late. That's what I base my numbers on - what they have done over and over again - 100% of the time.

They say Q2, it could easily mean "first weeks in Q3". That's totally consistent with what they have done 100% of the time so far. If you think they will suddenly change that, when going out into uncharted water's with 20nm, you are welcome to delude yourself into believing that. It's much more realistic to look at what a company have done 100% of the time to work out how they will perform in the future.

I'm pretty confident they will not ship in June either, if you want my *opinion*.

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April 08, 2014, 07:02:18 PM
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Anyone who is surprised knc will not be shipping until June has not been reading the writing on the walls, e.g. this from last DECEMBER:

Q2 begins in 3 months, 2 weeks.... not seven months... and the ststement said q1/q2, so could be sooner.
KNC have shipped *everything* late. Even, somehow, boards they had in stock  Grin So they have a 100% track record of delivering late. That's what I base my numbers on - what they have done over and over again - 100% of the time.

They say Q2, it could easily mean "first weeks in Q3". That's totally consistent with what they have done 100% of the time so far. If you think they will suddenly change that, when going out into uncharted water's with 20nm, you are welcome to delude yourself into believing that. It's much more realistic to look at what a company have done 100% of the time to work out how they will perform in the future.

I'm pretty confident they will not ship in June either, if you want my *opinion*.

i don't have an opinion, all I have is official data that tells me they won't ship in June.

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I don't understand why are people angry. While i was pissed at the refund thing, i don't see anything bad with the latest news. Will someone enlighten me why is everyone pissed? You paid for a 3TH/s miner with announced delivery on Q1/Q2. So the deadline is 30 June 2014. You will get the promised 3TH/s in June!(either as a free-hosted cloud hashing power either as a physical miner) It's very close to the deadline, but they respect their word. How many companies respect their pre-order deadlines? As long as they respect their own deadline i don't see a problem. Yes i am aware that they already have the cloud hashing power, but why should they give it to the customers right now? They gain nothing and the customers agreed to the Q2 deadline. If you don't like the Q2 deadline then you shouldn't have bought Neptunes! Easy as that. It's amaizing that people are complaining that this company already has a back up 2-3 months before their deadline, while other companies missed their deadline by a lot. I bet that customers that bought from TH, VMC, BFL, Bitmine, BA, HashFail(am i right cedivad?) wished their company had a back up plan as cloud hashing Cheesy

Edit: Forgot HashFail!

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April 08, 2014, 07:13:07 PM
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Anyone who is surprised knc will not be shipping until June has not been reading the writing on the walls, e.g. this from last DECEMBER:

Q2 begins in 3 months, 2 weeks.... not seven months... and the ststement said q1/q2, so could be sooner.
KNC have shipped *everything* late. Even, somehow, boards they had in stock  Grin So they have a 100% track record of delivering late. That's what I base my numbers on - what they have done over and over again - 100% of the time.

They say Q2, it could easily mean "first weeks in Q3". That's totally consistent with what they have done 100% of the time so far. If you think they will suddenly change that, when going out into uncharted water's with 20nm, you are welcome to delude yourself into believing that. It's much more realistic to look at what a company have done 100% of the time to work out how they will perform in the future.

I'm pretty confident they will not ship in June either, if you want my *opinion*.

i don't have an opinion, all I have is official data that tells me they won't ship in June.
Yes yes, the top secret info that spongebob-tech or whatever gave you a glimpse of.

It's actually only hearsay until you share it. And as you don't seem like you ever will, is there any point bringing it up every time you post?

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April 08, 2014, 07:25:12 PM
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I don't understand why are people angry. While i was pissed at the refund thing, i don't see anything bad with the latest news. Will someone enlighten me why is everyone pissed? You paid for a 3TH/s miner with announced delivery on Q1/Q2. So the deadline is 30 June 2014. You will get the promised 3TH/s in June!(either as a free-hosted cloud hashing power either as a physical miner) It's very close to the deadline, but they respect their word. How many companies respect their pre-order deadlines? As long as they respect their own deadline i don't see a problem. Yes i am aware that they already have the cloud hashing power, but why should they give it to the customers right now? They gain nothing and the customers agreed to the Q2 deadline. If you don't like the Q2 deadline then you shouldn't have bought Neptunes! Easy as that. It's amaizing that people are complaining that this company already has a back up 2-3 months before their deadline, while other companies missed their deadline by a lot. I bet that customers that bought from TH, VMC, BFL, Bitmine, BA, HashFail(am i right cedivad?) wished their company had a back up plan as cloud hashing Cheesy

Edit: Forgot HashFail!

"Q1/Q2"  MEANS---  March or April..   End of Q2 = June..  misleading at Best!!
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April 08, 2014, 07:26:08 PM
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* 2tights LOL @ all the KNC FUD disbelievers.


I find this absolutely hysterical that you all persist in this thread to beat this dead horse, further. Christ... move on to greener pastures. KNC is O V E R... we missed the golden months of late 2013 when they were still honest and valuable to the community. They are now a cancer. Stop feeding the cancer, people.

who's we?    most of us were in the boat from the beginning and just pop in here to remind any new folk about that cancer you mentioned

Ok, great. I think it's safe to assume my remarks were not directed at you. Smiley
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April 08, 2014, 07:32:59 PM
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I don't understand why are people angry. While i was pissed at the refund thing, i don't see anything bad with the latest news. Will someone enlighten me why is everyone pissed? You paid for a 3TH/s miner with announced delivery on Q1/Q2. So the deadline is 30 June 2014. You will get the promised 3TH/s in June!(either as a free-hosted cloud hashing power either as a physical miner) It's very close to the deadline, but they respect their word. How many companies respect their pre-order deadlines? As long as they respect their own deadline i don't see a problem. Yes i am aware that they already have the cloud hashing power, but why should they give it to the customers right now? They gain nothing and the customers agreed to the Q2 deadline. If you don't like the Q2 deadline then you shouldn't have bought Neptunes! Easy as that. It's amaizing that people are complaining that this company already has a back up 2-3 months before their deadline, while other companies missed their deadline by a lot. I bet that customers that bought from TH, VMC, BFL, Bitmine, BA, HashFail(am i right cedivad?) wished their company had a back up plan as cloud hashing Cheesy

Edit: Forgot HashFail!

"Q1/Q2"  MEANS---  March or April..   End of Q2 = June..  misleading at Best!!

Only if you are an idiot. Q1/Q2 means any time in Q1 or Q2

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April 08, 2014, 07:37:06 PM
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I don't understand why are people angry. While i was pissed at the refund thing, i don't see anything bad with the latest news. Will someone enlighten me why is everyone pissed? You paid for a 3TH/s miner with announced delivery on Q1/Q2. So the deadline is 30 June 2014. You will get the promised 3TH/s in June!(either as a free-hosted cloud hashing power either as a physical miner) It's very close to the deadline, but they respect their word. How many companies respect their pre-order deadlines? As long as they respect their own deadline i don't see a problem. Yes i am aware that they already have the cloud hashing power, but why should they give it to the customers right now? They gain nothing and the customers agreed to the Q2 deadline. If you don't like the Q2 deadline then you shouldn't have bought Neptunes! Easy as that. It's amaizing that people are complaining that this company already has a back up 2-3 months before their deadline, while other companies missed their deadline by a lot. I bet that customers that bought from TH, VMC, BFL, Bitmine, BA, HashFail(am i right cedivad?) wished their company had a back up plan as cloud hashing Cheesy

Edit: Forgot HashFail!

"Q1/Q2"  MEANS---  March or April..   End of Q2 = June..  misleading at Best!!

Only if you are an idiot. Q1/Q2 means any time in Q1 or Q2

Not an Idiot, but surely a fool as are many who bought CA, mislead by the Q1/Q2 Delivery. June would be more like Q2/Q3, NO?
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April 08, 2014, 07:38:11 PM
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Anyone who is surprised knc will not be shipping until June has not been reading the writing on the walls, e.g. this from last DECEMBER:

Q2 begins in 3 months, 2 weeks.... not seven months... and the ststement said q1/q2, so could be sooner.
KNC have shipped *everything* late. Even, somehow, boards they had in stock  Grin So they have a 100% track record of delivering late. That's what I base my numbers on - what they have done over and over again - 100% of the time.

They say Q2, it could easily mean "first weeks in Q3". That's totally consistent with what they have done 100% of the time so far. If you think they will suddenly change that, when going out into uncharted water's with 20nm, you are welcome to delude yourself into believing that. It's much more realistic to look at what a company have done 100% of the time to work out how they will perform in the future.

I'm pretty confident they will not ship in June either, if you want my *opinion*.

i don't have an opinion, all I have is official data that tells me they won't ship in June.
Yes yes, the top secret info that spongebob-tech or whatever gave you a glimpse of.


t'wisnae them; came direct from tsmc. so while the majority were singing global foundries - i quoted tsmc mask times. and lo and behold, knc confirmed it today in that news-thingymajigger. dunno, maybe they let it slip before now but i was just as surprised to find out tsmc were doing the baking.

hmm yummy easter cakes for christmas.

ADD: it was a no brainer, all i needed to do was advise tsmc that I was looking to provide them with a contract for chips and they sent me the datasheet for bake times. why do you think it was...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Y2hv-3UCM ??

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April 08, 2014, 07:43:18 PM
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I don't understand why are people angry. While i was pissed at the refund thing, i don't see anything bad with the latest news. Will someone enlighten me why is everyone pissed? You paid for a 3TH/s miner with announced delivery on Q1/Q2. So the deadline is 30 June 2014. You will get the promised 3TH/s in June!(either as a free-hosted cloud hashing power either as a physical miner) It's very close to the deadline, but they respect their word. How many companies respect their pre-order deadlines? As long as they respect their own deadline i don't see a problem. Yes i am aware that they already have the cloud hashing power, but why should they give it to the customers right now? They gain nothing and the customers agreed to the Q2 deadline. If you don't like the Q2 deadline then you shouldn't have bought Neptunes! Easy as that. It's amaizing that people are complaining that this company already has a back up 2-3 months before their deadline, while other companies missed their deadline by a lot. I bet that customers that bought from TH, VMC, BFL, Bitmine, BA, HashFail(am i right cedivad?) wished their company had a back up plan as cloud hashing Cheesy

Edit: Forgot HashFail!

"Q1/Q2"  MEANS---  March or April..   End of Q2 = June..  misleading at Best!!

Only if you are an idiot. Q1/Q2 means any time in Q1 or Q2

Took the words out of my mouth. Invest 10k$ into something, but can't understand the delivery terms. Yes people are more stupid than we think.

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April 08, 2014, 07:45:45 PM
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Point is, KNC is not fair.

They have a datacenter up and running, but they deliver "plan B" as late as possible.
Fact is, in August, even if they deliver 10 TH, its the same worth as now delivering 3 TH.

Its the same as selling a holiday to the beach, but sending the tickets to late, so the holiday becomes worthless.

When they want to be fair, they deliver 3TH cloudhash today, not tomorrow.

But time is the key and the rising difficulty the most critical factor.
Speaking their very own words: "We know as well as everyone in this business that time is a critical part of the process."

And I wonder why Bitmaintech, Dragonminer and Spondoolish have similar products ready to ship without the need of thousends of customers paying upfront 10k each.
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I don't understand why are people angry. While i was pissed at the refund thing, i don't see anything bad with the latest news. Will someone enlighten me why is everyone pissed? You paid for a 3TH/s miner with announced delivery on Q1/Q2. So the deadline is 30 June 2014. You will get the promised 3TH/s in June!(either as a free-hosted cloud hashing power either as a physical miner) It's very close to the deadline, but they respect their word. How many companies respect their pre-order deadlines? As long as they respect their own deadline i don't see a problem. Yes i am aware that they already have the cloud hashing power, but why should they give it to the customers right now? They gain nothing and the customers agreed to the Q2 deadline. If you don't like the Q2 deadline then you shouldn't have bought Neptunes! Easy as that. It's amaizing that people are complaining that this company already has a back up 2-3 months before their deadline, while other companies missed their deadline by a lot. I bet that customers that bought from TH, VMC, BFL, Bitmine, BA, HashFail(am i right cedivad?) wished their company had a back up plan as cloud hashing Cheesy

Edit: Forgot HashFail!

So what you're saying is we should be happy they are providing the minimum quoted spec to 400 customers, after misleading and lying to us for 4 months, because they aren't as bad as the other mining hardware companies?  

Guess what jackass, they ARE just as bad as the other companies now.  They've stabbed their customers in the back and are ruining things for everyone.
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April 08, 2014, 07:51:37 PM
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I don't understand why are people angry. While i was pissed at the refund thing, i don't see anything bad with the latest news. Will someone enlighten me why is everyone pissed? You paid for a 3TH/s miner with announced delivery on Q1/Q2. So the deadline is 30 June 2014. You will get the promised 3TH/s in June!(either as a free-hosted cloud hashing power either as a physical miner) It's very close to the deadline, but they respect their word. How many companies respect their pre-order deadlines? As long as they respect their own deadline i don't see a problem. Yes i am aware that they already have the cloud hashing power, but why should they give it to the customers right now? They gain nothing and the customers agreed to the Q2 deadline. If you don't like the Q2 deadline then you shouldn't have bought Neptunes! Easy as that. It's amaizing that people are complaining that this company already has a back up 2-3 months before their deadline, while other companies missed their deadline by a lot. I bet that customers that bought from TH, VMC, BFL, Bitmine, BA, HashFail(am i right cedivad?) wished their company had a back up plan as cloud hashing Cheesy

Edit: Forgot HashFail!

So what you're saying is we should be happy they are providing the minimum quoted spec to 400 customers, after misleading and lying to us for 4 months, because they aren't as bad as the other mining hardware companies?  

Guess what jackass, they ARE just as bad as the other companies now.  They've stabbed their customers in the back and are ruining things for everyone.

+1.... "jackass"
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