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March 27, 2014, 10:36:35 PM
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From tapeout to mass production can be done within seven weeks if everything goes OK
TO - beginning of March.

Tapeout to samples:

40nm, 28nm - 8 weeks
20nm - 4-5 months

Prove me wrong.

Maybe KnC have very good relations and they can get it faster. They do chips for 10 years. Can't be all in vain.

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March 27, 2014, 10:55:38 PM
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TO - beginning of March.

Tapeout to samples:

40nm, 28nm - 8 weeks
20nm - 4-5 months

Prove me wrong.

Maybe KnC have very good relations and they can get it faster. They do chips for 10 years. Can't be all in vain.

KnC has boat load of money from self-mining and it is in their best interest to pay whatever extra expedite fee to get the process shorten so they can self-mine sooner (time = money in bitcoin mining).  And it is also in TSMC's best interest to produce the new 20nm wafer at faster and faster pace, time is also money in their business.  The less time it takes, the more 20nm wafers they can make for other customers = more money.  Besides, what better marketing for more 20nm business if they can tell their other potential customers they have gotten the 20nm manufacturing time down to 8 weeks or less.
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March 27, 2014, 11:03:41 PM
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Any industry data you can provide to back up this claim? The burden of proof is actually on you if you are making the claims
Common knowledge in the Silicon industry. Ask any vendor about TSMC 20nm cycle time.
Dig around, it's easy to find.

If we are talking industry standards (rather than just dropping a number and providing nothing to back it up), vendors would say:

"Also, if you think about 28nm, the time from tapeout to sample is three to four months." (http://semiengineering.com/experts-at-the-table-changes-in-the-ecosystem-2/)

So if 3-4 months is actually 8 weeks, does that means 4-5 months is actually 10 weeks?

Good luck. You're not really helping yourselves with the abrasive attitude. Prove me wrong? Huh.

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March 28, 2014, 12:39:55 AM
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if it's the not diff they are killing you with, it will be the price drop of btc from their dumps that will be last nail for any KNC customer

btc < $500  how you not refund on Neptune is just loony


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March 28, 2014, 12:52:15 AM
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Maybe KnC have very good relations and they can get it faster. They do chips for 10 years. Can't be all in vain.
It was ORSoC first ASIC. They had FPGA code, ALCHIP did all the job.
Relations won't help here. Double Patterning takes times.
4-5 months to samples.

We released the following miners only when we were operational: SP10, SP20, SP30, SP31 and SP35.
If you see anything else offered online, it's a scam.
We designed but never completed the SP50
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March 28, 2014, 01:03:40 AM
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Besides, what better marketing for more 20nm business if they can tell their other potential customers they have gotten the 20nm manufacturing time down to 8 weeks or less.
Can't be done. DPT takes time. Beside, When you go to TO you know the exact day you'll get samples. Was that date published ?
Only 'Plan B' was published. Why ?

We released the following miners only when we were operational: SP10, SP20, SP30, SP31 and SP35.
If you see anything else offered online, it's a scam.
We designed but never completed the SP50
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March 28, 2014, 01:10:40 AM
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KnC better stop dumping BTC on the exchanges


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March 28, 2014, 01:11:15 AM
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What that mean?
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March 28, 2014, 01:20:19 AM
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Besides, what better marketing for more 20nm business if they can tell their other potential customers they have gotten the 20nm manufacturing time down to 8 weeks or less.
Can't be done. DPT takes time. Beside, When you go to TO you know the exact day you'll get samples. Was that date published ?
Only 'Plan B' was published. Why ?

How about this.... you mining companies mine the hell out of the diff, and we schleps will just wait until you all crash the price as you try to get your profits on the open market selling BTC instead of pre-orders?

ok?

have at it

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March 28, 2014, 01:22:53 AM
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How about this.... you mining companies
We're not a mining company

We released the following miners only when we were operational: SP10, SP20, SP30, SP31 and SP35.
If you see anything else offered online, it's a scam.
We designed but never completed the SP50
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March 28, 2014, 01:26:48 AM
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How about this.... you mining companies
We're not a mining company

well you better start since miners don't really feel like taking the middleman risk here

if your miners are so great, go mine

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March 28, 2014, 01:29:51 AM
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if your miners are so great
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525469

We released the following miners only when we were operational: SP10, SP20, SP30, SP31 and SP35.
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 oh you mean a review of a free miner??  sure send us all one and we'll all give great reviews too

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March 28, 2014, 01:36:12 AM
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oh you mean a review of a free miner??  sure send us all one and we'll all give great reviews too
Read it. dogie is unbiased. He tells it all, good and bad.

We released the following miners only when we were operational: SP10, SP20, SP30, SP31 and SP35.
If you see anything else offered online, it's a scam.
We designed but never completed the SP50
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March 28, 2014, 01:40:23 AM
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oh you mean a review of a free miner??  sure send us all one and we'll all give great reviews too
Read it. dogie is unbiased. He tells it all, good and bad.

u are far to expensiv. 5th with many luck delivery in September, is the same crap as 1th now. and u ask for 13000 bucks + vat !? u do trolling!

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March 28, 2014, 01:59:45 AM
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8K$ for 2.8-3TH/s in May, contact regarding VAT
(12K$ for 5.4TH in August)

We released the following miners only when we were operational: SP10, SP20, SP30, SP31 and SP35.
If you see anything else offered online, it's a scam.
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March 28, 2014, 02:06:53 AM
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How about this.... you mining companies
We're not a mining company

So knc have set up their own private mining farm and are making - can't remember the exact figure - $1 million a week mining and selling BTC?

Your company is funded by vulture venture capitalists, right? So they've heard they can be making $1 million a week if they had a private farm, but they decided no - we want to sell $50k of pre-orders a day instead?  Grin

Doesn't sounds like any VC's I've ever encountered. Maybe your company don't self mine, but what about your VC's? Are you knocking out a thousand units for them as we speak?

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March 28, 2014, 02:13:10 AM
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For the last time:
We're manufacturing of mining equipment. Not farmers. It doesn't make sense to mine in Israel - uneconomical.
We're good at ASIC and board design. The operational aspects involved with large scale mining is out of our expertise.

We released the following miners only when we were operational: SP10, SP20, SP30, SP31 and SP35.
If you see anything else offered online, it's a scam.
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March 28, 2014, 02:21:17 AM
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KnC flood the market everyday with 400000 dollar worth of BTC from their mining operation.
At this moment they get less than 400000 dollar, BTC price dropped.
Taiwan Semicondutor Manufaturing Company and other companies who sell parts to them only accept dollars.
Those bastards keep expanding their farm.


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March 28, 2014, 02:29:20 AM
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KnC flood the market everyday with 400000 dollar worth of BTC from their mining operation.
At this moment they get less than 400000 dollar, BTC price dropped.
Taiwan Semicondutor Manufaturing Company and other companies who sell parts to them only accept dollars.
Those bastards keep expanding their farm.


They're killing bitcoin. They need to be shut down.
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