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February 06, 2017, 03:06:54 PM
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how mining bitcoin with hardware that does not require a huge cost? I know the cost to mine bitcoin with hardware very much.

well i don't know anything that does not require a huge cost ( to earn something that worth the investment ) if somebody can give a proposal to that
i am also interested us i run Solar Panels for power and i have batteries for the night and i can put about 4000W more.

Any proposals?
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February 07, 2017, 02:32:17 AM
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how mining bitcoin with hardware that does not require a huge cost? I know the cost to mine bitcoin with hardware very much.

well i don't know anything that does not require a huge cost ( to earn something that worth the investment ) if somebody can give a proposal to that
i am also interested us i run Solar Panels for power and i have batteries for the night and i can put about 4000W more.

Any proposals?

Mining without a huge cost?  Only thing that comes to mind is if you have free power. Then you can snag some of the mining gear that others cannot afford to run any longer.  Usually you can pick that stuff up pretty cheap, but again if you don't have free electricity it is a fast way to go broke feeding an inefficient miner. 

It just isn't an affordable hobby for most people I hate to say it.  If you have a PC with a decent power supply and you are perhaps a gamer you might be able to justify a GPU for gaming that you can keep running at night mining so that it has a dual purpose.  Buy you wouldn't really earn much that way.  So it would then depend on your goals.  Just not much in the way of affordable mining.

Most of us would probably have been better off if we had bought BTC and held it.  Maybe make a little money doing some day trading here and there. 
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how mining bitcoin with hardware that does not require a huge cost? I know the cost to mine bitcoin with hardware very much.

well i don't know anything that does not require a huge cost ( to earn something that worth the investment ) if somebody can give a proposal to that
i am also interested us i run Solar Panels for power and i have batteries for the night and i can put about 4000W more.

Any proposals?

Mining without a huge cost?  Only thing that comes to mind is if you have free power. Then you can snag some of the mining gear that others cannot afford to run any longer.  Usually you can pick that stuff up pretty cheap, but again if you don't have free electricity it is a fast way to go broke feeding an inefficient miner.  

It just isn't an affordable hobby for most people I hate to say it.  If you have a PC with a decent power supply and you are perhaps a gamer you might be able to justify a GPU for gaming that you can keep running at night mining so that it has a dual purpose.  Buy you wouldn't really earn much that way.  So it would then depend on your goals.  Just not much in the way of affordable mining.

Most of us would probably have been better off if we had bought BTC and held it.  Maybe make a little money doing some day trading here and there.  

Free power?? S3+ best miner I used,cheap on ebay or here.

Pay for power?? Try video cards to mine altcoins,if you can build your own rigs your good,if not your screwed  Cheesy


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February 09, 2017, 11:31:47 AM
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i do not count the electricity but i don't want to spend $600 for s3+.....
i found it not reasonable price or cheap either comparing to what will return me after 1 year for example.

Any other proposal?
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February 09, 2017, 12:12:49 PM
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i do not count the electricity but i don't want to spend $600 for s3+.....
i found it not reasonable price or cheap either comparing to what will return me after 1 year for example.

Any other proposal?

Uh,not sure where your buying the S3+ from,but on ebay here in the states they're goin for $70-100.....................

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February 09, 2017, 12:23:21 PM
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i do not count the electricity but i don't want to spend $600 for s3+.....
i found it not reasonable price or cheap either comparing to what will return me after 1 year for example.

Any other proposal?

Uh,not sure where your buying the S3+ from,but on ebay here in the states they're goin for $70-100.....................

wow.. thanks for waking up me.. i fell like i was sleeping ...
but after fast google i saw that: https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140813125800214NBU85kWt0672

also here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antminer-S3-Bitmain-BTC-Tech-Bitcoin-Miner-ASIC-New-Arrival/331828668449?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D2220072%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3D3e8504feedb2475c9f374f0941705043%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D132029218238

ok that was cheaper at about 260 €  but since i am in Europe don't want to buy from abroad and wait long time and maybe pay customs also....
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March 09, 2017, 08:54:47 PM
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Alrighty, that was a weird break but a lot of things happened behind the scenes. I'm now moving away from the Titans into some other areas, and will be liquidating all of the things I purchased/made. This includes my titan hardware AND the titan bridge board source files, so you guys can finally start making and fixing your own controllers.

I'm liquidating 15 Titan cubes all of them working with less than 30% of them having some non-working dies for 4 BTC total.

Individually if you want just 1 cube (will be random from the bunch), it'll be 0.25 BTC each. If you want to target a specific cube it'll be 0.50 BTC.

The Titan bridge board files from the working batch will be 5 BTC to whoever wants to be the person to deal with that from now on.

I'm just tired of all of this and if I'm going to move on, than there's no better people to keep it going than you guys. PM me if interested. Aside from the bridge problem, it looks like all other issues can be fixed to have a fully working set (minus the unfixable dies which I absolutely cannot help with at this time).

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March 09, 2017, 11:01:12 PM
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Yes. We (me) figured out the problem with the 2.0 bridgeboards; a crystal was used instead of an oscillator. Simple fix with the right tools, I can do it for .1btc/25 ltc or so.

My other thread on hacking them has all the gory details. I'm still fixing cubes, if yours does not shut down the controller when plugged into it with the 10 pin it can probably be fixed. Burned connectors can also be fixed. However ones that have shorted cannot be fixed; I finally verified this by pulling a die and verifying that KNC cross-connected the hotel lines inside the chip.

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March 09, 2017, 11:06:57 PM
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Yes. We (me) figured out the problem with the 2.0 bridgeboards; a crystal was used instead of an oscillator. Simple fix with the right tools, I can do it for .1btc/25 ltc or so.

My other thread on hacking them has all the gory details. I'm still fixing cubes, if yours does not shut down the controller when plugged into it with the 10 pin it can probably be fixed. Burned connectors can also be fixed. However ones that have shorted cannot be fixed; I finally verified this by pulling a die and verifying that KNC cross-connected the hotel lines inside the chip.

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Good to know. Haven't been a fan of KNC's design language since the beginning.

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April 09, 2017, 01:54:27 PM
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Curious...   I still have two original Jupiters (original batch).    They worth anything these days?    I shut them down in September when my power was no longer free :/

I assume the two power supplies are worth more than the miners.
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Curious...   I still have two original Jupiters (original batch).    They worth anything these days?    I shut them down in September when my power was no longer free :/

I assume the two power supplies are worth more than the miners.

Not worth anything. Mine is still around. It made me 53 btc...it is in the basement under the workbench...I 'pat' it lovingly occasionally. It is like a beloved asic paperweight Smiley


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April 09, 2017, 01:59:47 PM
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Curious...   I still have two original Jupiters (original batch).    They worth anything these days?    I shut them down in September when my power was no longer free :/

I assume the two power supplies are worth more than the miners.

Not worth anything. Mine is still around. It made me 53 btc...it is in the basement under the workbench...I 'pat' it lovingly occasionally. It is like a beloved asic paperweight Smiley



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worthless even on hour/day one of a freshly released coin?

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April 09, 2017, 04:52:34 PM
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Speaking of which I'm still fixing the miners, and as a service to the community I got the Titan 2.01 code running on a Beaglebone (Neptune) controller and posted the code on my other thread. Hopefully that will help people keep mining.

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April 09, 2017, 07:17:56 PM
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worthless even on hour/day one of a freshly released coin?

I don't know of any decent SHA256 alt coins, or any that are planned unfortunately.

I had originally posited when ASICs quickly became more and more efficient that some decent SHA256 alt coins would be developed, and allow slower Asics to remain profitable.

However, that never happened. I think the ASIC manufacturers building large farms for much cheaper than the consumer, and all of the scams involving ASIC manufacturers, severely shifted the alt coin community's opinion of ASICs and SHA256. Their opinion on ASICs was already pretty dismal to begin with.

As a result, all decently speculatable alt coins that have been conceived since have decided to go with a different consensus algorithm or various forms of PoS algorithms.

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April 09, 2017, 07:23:11 PM
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worthless even on hour/day one of a freshly released coin?

I don't know of any decent SHA256 alt coins, or any that are planned unfortunately.

what about http://deutsche-emark.de/ ?

give it a try.  Wink
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June 25, 2017, 02:18:19 PM
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For some of these early ASIC miners, there have been only 1 or 2 batches of them, i.e. hundreds, not even thousands. If Bitcoin is still a thing in twenty-something years, they could be worth about as much as an Apple I is today.

So, I keep my Saturn in the basement for future museum use... and educational purposes Grin
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June 25, 2017, 03:00:10 PM
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For some of these early ASIC miners, there have been only 1 or 2 batches of them, i.e. hundreds, not even thousands. If Bitcoin is still a thing in twenty-something years, they could be worth about as much as an Apple I is today.

So, I keep my Saturn in the basement for future museum use... and educational purposes Grin

Ha! There I was thinking I'm the only one. It really does feel like owning a piece of history Smiley

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June 25, 2017, 08:58:20 PM
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For some of these early ASIC miners, there have been only 1 or 2 batches of them, i.e. hundreds, not even thousands. If Bitcoin is still a thing in twenty-something years, they could be worth about as much as an Apple I is today.

So, I keep my Saturn in the basement for future museum use... and educational purposes Grin

I kept a few of my FPGA boards for the same reason.

I cant really seeing the Saturns commanding that much.  They weren't first generation, and the physical execution was junk.  Now the unanodized batch 1 Avalons, those will be something...
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June 29, 2017, 04:30:09 PM
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For some of these early ASIC miners, there have been only 1 or 2 batches of them, i.e. hundreds, not even thousands. If Bitcoin is still a thing in twenty-something years, they could be worth about as much as an Apple I is today.

So, I keep my Saturn in the basement for future museum use... and educational purposes Grin

I've got a bag full of Block Erupters in their original cases, I'll be rich one day! Cheesy
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