Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[Bitcoinorama]

I have purchased

No you haven't. You've posted the same message trolling all the new ASIC companies.

KNCminer may or may not be legit, but this doesn't help.

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[bitpop]

There was an fpga which I really did purchase

[Bitcoinorama]

There was an fpga which I really did purchase

This company has yet to release details of any product(s), or demonstrate a working prototype, let alone sell anything. For that reason it's also agreed not to request investor funds and hasn't opened for orders.

You're lying.

The company may well be legitimate, it's partner is. You are not helping the situation.

[bitpop]

Fine, I WILL purchase

[Bitcoinorama]

Fine, I WILL purchase

I'm not sure what your goal was/is but you've been trolling other threads this morning with the same misinformation. Claiming to have purchased products from companies that have yet to prove themselves or open to public sale.

It just confuses a situation when other members are giving new companies a chance to earn trust and respect, or are trying to base an informed decision on what research is available.

It's not cool, and to be entirely honest what you get out of it is a mystery.

[jspielberg]

Maybe he is drunk?

Either way... welcome to my ignore list.

[mobodick]

Fine, I WILL purchase

I'm not sure what your goal was/is but you've been trolling other threads this morning with the same misinformation. Claiming to have purchased products from companies that have yet to prove themselves or open to public sale.

It just confuses a situation when other members are giving new companies a chance to earn trust and respect.

It's not cool, and To be entirely honest what you get out of it is a mystery.

Well, seing you upset was already worth it IMO.
 

[Bitcoinorama]

Well, seing you upset was already worth it IMO.
 
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I'm not upset, I just can't see any contribution to this thread.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Hi All.

It has been a while since I replied I know.
What I can say is that we ARE listening to the feedback you're all making via email/Facebook/twitter and of course here on the forum. There are some very interesting ideas floating around. We are taking note as we need to produce a product that our customers can actually use.

So we will look at producing other types of devices etc.

Sam, you are gonna face competition .. Avalon DIY and other wannabees coming along. Some Avalon DIY guys are buying bulk of Avalon Chips
to make clones of the Avalon Miner for re-sell.. very smart..

Thanks Dan we actually want to see all types of legitimate competition in the market. That puts pressure on all parties involved and should put a stop to companies treating the customers as badly as they have been treated in the past.

We are up for the challenge I can assure you all of that.

Thanks

Sam
KnCMiner
www.kncminer.com

Here's my honest opinion: This post is nothing but a crock of shit! Fuckin' Ed Trice could do a better job pulling the alpaca wool over our eyes.

In probably a few days, KNC will be accepting payments to get in the queue and a myriad of customers will oblige, all with not a spec of evidence that something is even the works.

Either ORSoC is behind this or they didn't do due diligence prior to coming on board. Perhaps, an ORSoC spokesperson should register here and give us something of substance. If they do that, than I'll reverse my position and back KNC, but be forewarned, if the project turns into a bust, I will then be sticking it up ORSoC's ass.

Here's something odd: https://www.facebook.com/ORSoC

They joined FB March of last year, posted 5 times, and ONLY have 3 likes to their page. How the fuck is that even possible given the supposed size of their community?

[Phinnaeus Gage]

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/alt.hacking/BbUd5Q4YvTE

Marcus Erlandsson                           5/21/98


HEEELLOOO!!!
I tried the trick that Shane didn´t like, it WORKED here. Fantastic!

Anyone knows how get the password for a user etc. at Hotmail ? or
something
else that could be interesting...

// Thanks for answer´s by mail or news

// Mackeian

GAME ON!

[Bitcoinorama]

Phinnaeus, with all due respect, that's a lot of hot air.

I appreciate it's their Facebook company 'fan page', but if you follow the YouTube video link, whilst it's been watched over 1000 times, and they have multiple videos on their channel, they only have 7 subscribers. It's just not something people would relish having popping up in their newsfeed I guess.

Opencores also has a Facebook page, which you didn't search for. That has 114 followers, not a huge amount I know, but I assume ORSoCs main focus is business to business, and business order volume amounts, so it would odd for an individual to follow their Facebook page.

Likewise opencores has more than one YouTube channel, one in particular pertains to just conferences. The content is solid.

Perhaps you should email them, they are quite approachable, although I'd suggest you calm down and use tad more diplomacy as opposed to an open unsubstantiated rant

[Bitcoinorama]

Also *if* your find on alt.hacking forum is the same guy, so what?! Who the hell didn't try to hack a hotmail account in '98?? That was 16 years ago...what was he 20, a student?

BTW his name is not unusual in Sweden, he's not even the first result, but he is a tech guy and an interest in reverse engineering just substantiates that he knows his shiz.

Though err...best not to drop him an email from your hotmail, eh? 

[tosku]

BTW his name is not unusual in Sweden, he's not even the first result, but he is a tech guy and an interest in reverse engineering just substantiates that he knows his shiz.

Yup, there are 35 people named Marcus Erlandsson living in Sweden: http://www.upplysning.se/person/?x=673&who=Marcus+Erlandsson

[ecliptic]

46 pages in under one month? boy i wonder if this is a scam

[dan99]

" Hi All.

It has been a while since I replied I know.
What I can say is that we ARE listening to the feedback you're all making via email/Facebook/twitter and of course here on the forum. There are some very interesting ideas floating around. We are taking note as we need to produce a product that our customers can actually use.

So we will look at producing other types of devices etc."

Quote from Sam above.

There are working on something interesting and I am sure with all the feedback from here and social media .. they should know what to do 

[Luckybit]

Hi All.

It has been a while since I replied I know.
What I can say is that we ARE listening to the feedback you're all making via email/Facebook/twitter and of course here on the forum. There are some very interesting ideas floating around. We are taking note as we need to produce a product that our customers can actually use.

So we will look at producing other types of devices etc.

Sam, you are gonna face competition .. Avalon DIY and other wannabees coming along. Some Avalon DIY guys are buying bulk of Avalon Chips
to make clones of the Avalon Miner for re-sell.. very smart..

Thanks Dan we actually want to see all types of legitimate competition in the market. That puts pressure on all parties involved and should put a stop to companies treating the customers as badly as they have been treated in the past.

We are up for the challenge I can assure you all of that.

Thanks

Sam
KnCMiner
www.kncmienr.com

Sam, Thanks for dropping by and glad that you do sometimes read the comments in this forum, how many more pages to read  in this thread before we could see a working real life model of your FPGA and Asic Bitcoin Miner.? You just need to produce proof in videos and photos of your working
product models with some detail specs in order for us to start ordering this products from you. We need ACTION .. the talk and talk is over. yep is over.

Whatever they release must be a guaranteed 2 month ROI or I'm not buying it and I don't think others will either. They should give it enough Ghash that we get our money back no matter how much the difficulty is expected to rise. If they cannot do that, it's a good idea to just mine Litecoins.

[1krona]

I say as many others that it would be great if they were the first to release a Litecoin ASIC/FPGA.
At the moment it feels so unsure how the Bitcoin-network difficulty will unfold after all the Avalon/DYI/BFL have been shipped.

[mobodick]

Whatever they release must be a guaranteed 2 month ROI or I'm not buying it and I don't think others will either. They should give it enough Ghash that we get our money back no matter how much the difficulty is expected to rise. If they cannot do that, it's a good idea to just mine Litecoins.

All ASIC devices has instant ROI.
Really plug and play.

[FlappySocks]

ROIs are always tricky to calculate, and a moving target.  Buyers want them short to avoid risk, and sellers want them long enough to make a profit, but short enough to be attractive.

It's a balancing act which causes friction.

How is this for an idea:

Manufactures sell their minors for no more than cost.
The manufacturer sets up their own pool, and the firmware in the minors only ever connects to that pool.
The manufacturer takes a % of coins.


Consumers will just go with the manufacture that offers the best deal.
Manufacturers will be looking to make the most efficient hardware, and the best cost/% ratio to get as many units out there.  Healthy competition.

[organofcorti]

ROIs are always tricky to calculate, and a moving target.  Buyers want them short to avoid risk, and sellers want them long enough to make a profit, but short enough to be attractive.

It's a balancing act which causes friction.

How is this for an idea:

Manufactures sell their minors for no more than cost.
The manufacturer sets up their own pool, and the firmware in the minors only ever connects to that pool.
The manufacturer takes a % of coins.


Consumers will just go with the manufacture that offers the best deal.
Manufacturers will be looking to make the most efficient hardware, and the best cost/% ratio to get as many units out there.  Healthy competition.

It's a nice idea and I read somewhere a manufacturer that plans on doing that. But for that to work you have to have built up sufficient trust. I think only ASICMiner and Avalon could do that at the moment, and neither of them seem likely to do something along those lines - Avalon because it's just not in the way they do business, and ASICMiner because it's what they already do, just in a different way - selling shares in the company rather than selling the mining tools.