Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[CYPER]

I'm stoked about delivery on the 30th, aren't you guys?

Yeah, got the email too. Can't wait 

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[ASIC-K]

I'm stoked about delivery on the 30th, aren't you guys?

Yeah, got the email too. Can't wait 

did i miss an email?

[Bargraphics]

So which bar is this?  The old Terrahash advocating one, or the newly purchased account one?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=198489.msg3246606#msg3246606

I honestly didn't even think about this thread when doing it but the two-three hours of "Who deleted posts" game you guys played was fun.

Augusto won that game.

Then shortly proceeded by Avenger dusting off and wearing that famous tin-foil hat he dons so justly.

Must "lulzies" were had yesterday as crumbs would say.

[af_newbie]

If the product ships on time, KNC's choice of skipping the testing stage will be seen as bold & daring.  If they fail, well...

What product?  The only product they have is the FPGA prototype and they are not building/shipping that.

Why you guys are so hyped up about KNC and its "products"?  

Until they show a working ASIC chip, there is nothing to be excited about.

Did you already forget Avalon and BFL fiasco?  Why do you think KNC will be any different?
Once (IF) they get any working ASIC, they will mine the shit out of it for a month or two, blame Chinese customs for delays and
maybe then ship few units to "supporters".

That earns a trip to my ignore list.

Ignore all you want.  At least when bitfuries went on sale, there were ASIC chips in the hands of DYI testers.
With this, there is nothing.  Don't you think they would be all over youtube with their ASIC chip demo, IF they had one.

"Sent to production"  I don't even know what that entails.  Sent what to production?
Before you send anything to production, don't you have to test the prototype first?

I hope you get your "products".

BTW, I had order #34 with KNC, placed hours after they made their first post here.  Sold that thing like a hot potato, few months later.

This smelled like a well orchestrated scam from the beginning and nothing changed since then.

[markm]

no one knows and as you can see, customer service is now useless.

otherwise, KNC promised me to deliver Jupiter until end of September. once they failed, I will resend them their mails with promise and ask for full refund. If they will not refund me, I will start legal steps - within EU it is super easy and customer rights are here on another level (compared to China)

How did you get a promise?

All the rest of us got was an assurance they were confident they could ship by then, and were really going to try hard, didn't we? Then just recently their estimate finally went from on track but very tight to starting to ship next week? If you don't want your unit(s) next week you can likely find plenty of people eager to buy them.

-MarkM-

[Xialla]

no one knows and as you can see, customer service is now useless.

otherwise, KNC promised me to deliver Jupiter until end of September. once they failed, I will resend them their mails with promise and ask for full refund. If they will not refund me, I will start legal steps - within EU it is super easy and customer rights are here on another level (compared to China)

How did you get a promise?

All the rest of us got was an assurance they were confident they could ship by then, and were really going to try hard, didn't we? Then just recently their estimate finally went from on track but very tight to starting to ship next week? If you don't want your unit(s) next week you can likely find plenty of people eager to buy them.

-MarkM-

September delivery was mentioned XY times. just check kncminer posts here in this thread or check news on their webpage. before 3 days, I received this mail:

From: customerservice@kncminer.com
To: xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.com
Subject: RE: order xxxxxxxxxxxx - shipping date
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:55:13 +0000
Dear Daniel,
 
Your order is expected to ship towards the end of September.
 
Once the order is shipped you will receive the tracking number.
 
Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have further questions.
 
Med vänlig hälsning | Best regards
Anna Jagdhar
Kncminer
www.kncminer.com
Office: +46 8559 253 20

[-Redacted-]

no one knows and as you can see, customer service is now useless.

otherwise, KNC promised me to deliver Jupiter until end of September. once they failed, I will resend them their mails with promise and ask for full refund. If they will not refund me, I will start legal steps - within EU it is super easy and customer rights are here on another level (compared to China)

How did you get a promise?

All the rest of us got was an assurance they were confident they could ship by then, and were really going to try hard, didn't we? Then just recently their estimate finally went from on track but very tight to starting to ship next week? If you don't want your unit(s) next week you can likely find plenty of people eager to buy them.

-MarkM-

The ignore button is actually the only useful option for dealing with Xialia...

[blastbob]

When did expected become a promise.

[rizzman]

they could have stopped all this as well as refunds by naming a shipping date or at least give more news about current progress
as well as [edit-begin] sticking to claims like [edit-end] allowing refunds until shipment as stated [edit2-begin] since there are still some asking for October slots as far as I know [edit2-end]

being silent in order to surprise customers seems to be a stupid tactic and I do not think they are stupid

A stupid Tactic? Yes, only if your sole reason is for surprise factor, but the reality is shy of shipping orders yesterday, there is nothing that they can say at this point that will calm people down and silence the trolls. This is the time where action is the only thing that matters.

Think about it... If they came out today and said good news, we have chips! - do you think people would stop whining? no, they would find something else to complain about and possibly make the situation worse.

On the other hand... What if they say nothing? Sure, Trolls will continue to troll, some will panic and FUD while rational minded individuals (The minority) will be patient and give them till the deadline expires...

It's a lose-lose situation right now for KNC to say anything. If they speak, they lose, if they don't speak they lose. There's no turning back at this point for them. So their best play now is to focus on the task at hand.

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When did expected become a promise.

Semantics pedantry -- the last resort of failed fanbois.  Hope you get an equally formalistic package from KNC -- A plastic miner doll wearing a "500GH/s" bib.

[blastbob]

When did expected become a promise.

Semantics pedantry -- the last resort of failed fanbois.  Hope you get an equally formalistic package from KNC -- A plastic miner doll wearing a "500GH/s" bib.

Fanboy.. not sure about that. But heavy invested yes.

There will be a video during the weekend on a working unit. And pickup / shipments starts early next week. Dont see the problem.

[-Redacted-]

You're taking all the fun out of it for the trolls.  

They've already worked themselves up into a lather threatening lawsuits, and things aren't even late yet.   I can't wait until Saturday afternoon to see what they're threatening by then.  Things ought to have made it to the "blow up the entire country of Sweden" stage...

[Rampion]

When did expected become a promise.

Semantics pedantry -- the last resort of failed fanbois.  Hope you get an equally formalistic package from KNC -- A plastic miner doll wearing a "500GH/s" bib.

Fanboy.. not sure about that. But heavy invested yes.

There will be a video during the weekend on a working unit. And pickup / shipments starts early next week. Dont see the problem.

200M difficulty and probably a 400% jump on next adjustment might be a problem for some.

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they could have stopped all this as well as refunds by naming a shipping date or at least give more news about current progress
as well as [edit-begin] sticking to claims like [edit-end] allowing refunds until shipment as stated [edit2-begin] since there are still some asking for October slots as far as I know [edit2-end]

being silent in order to surprise customers seems to be a stupid tactic and I do not think they are stupid

A stupid Tactic? Yes, only if your sole reason is for surprise factor, but the reality is shy of shipping orders yesterday, there is nothing that they can say at this point that will calm people down and silence the trolls. This is the time where action is the only thing that matters.

Think about it... If they came out today and said good news, we have chips! - do you think people would stop whining? no, they would find something else to complain about and possibly make the situation worse.

On the other hand... What if they say nothing? Sure, Trolls will continue to troll, some will panic and FUD while rational minded individuals (The minority) will be patient and give them till the deadline expires...

It's a lose-lose situation right now for KNC to say anything. If they speak, they lose, if they don't speak they lose. There's no turning back at this point for them. So their best play now is to focus on the task at hand.

If they came out today & mailed you your tracking #, that would constitute "underpromising/overdelivering," though not by a "margin upon margin," but by the slimmest of margins.

Not bragging about margins upon margins & overdelivering, naming a deadline they could meet, and honoring refund request would have certainly silenced the trolls.

[markm]

I wish they would get cancelled though. Its not like there won't be plenty of people hoping to snap up the day-late units, heck even a few days to a week late, maybe even more than that, would have no difficulty finding buyers. So why not let these people who don't want day-late units cancel?

-MarkM-

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When did expected become a promise.

Semantics pedantry -- the last resort of failed fanbois.  Hope you get an equally formalistic package from KNC -- A plastic miner doll wearing a "500GH/s" bib.

Fanboy.. not sure about that. But heavy invested yes.

There will be a video during the weekend on a working unit. And pickup / shipments starts early next week. Dont see the problem.

BFL "started shipping" when?  

[The Avenger]

When did expected become a promise.

Semantics pedantry -- the last resort of failed fanbois.  Hope you get an equally formalistic package from KNC -- A plastic miner doll wearing a "500GH/s" bib.

Fanboy.. not sure about that. But heavy invested yes.

There will be a video during the weekend on a working unit. And pickup / shipments starts early next week. Dont see the problem.

BFL "started shipping" when?  

Okay, time to make your ignore button a little bit more yellow crumbs. All this BS/FUD comes from comparing KNC to "others" and holding them to promises the "others" made. Last resort of a troll who has no more arguments/cards to play. See ya.

[ImI]

When did expected become a promise.

Semantics pedantry -- the last resort of failed fanbois.  Hope you get an equally formalistic package from KNC -- A plastic miner doll wearing a "500GH/s" bib.

Fanboy.. not sure about that. But heavy invested yes.

There will be a video during the weekend on a working unit. And pickup / shipments starts early next week. Dont see the problem.

200M difficulty and probably a 400% jump on next adjustment might be a problem for some.

800m by next adjustment in around one week?

You wanna be quoted then with this?

[blastbob]

When did expected become a promise.

Semantics pedantry -- the last resort of failed fanbois.  Hope you get an equally formalistic package from KNC -- A plastic miner doll wearing a "500GH/s" bib.

Fanboy.. not sure about that. But heavy invested yes.

There will be a video during the weekend on a working unit. And pickup / shipments starts early next week. Dont see the problem.

BFL "started shipping" when?  

BFL has assfucked alot of people, and still allowed to continue. KnC might fuck you over on the VAT. But its a legit one.

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When did expected become a promise.

Semantics pedantry -- the last resort of failed fanbois.  Hope you get an equally formalistic package from KNC -- A plastic miner doll wearing a "500GH/s" bib.

Fanboy.. not sure about that. But heavy invested yes.

There will be a video during the weekend on a working unit. And pickup / shipments starts early next week. Dont see the problem.

BFL "started shipping" when?  

Okay, time to make your ignore button a little bit more yellow crumbs. All this BS/FUD comes from comparing KNC to "others" and holding them to promises the "others" made. Last resort of a troll who has no more arguments/cards to play. See ya.

...
@The Avenger:  KNC is an ASIC manufacturer.  If you think there's a reason it should be exempt from comparisons to other ASIC makers, please make a case.  In the meantime,

"At least Pedobear was cuddly!"

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