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July 10, 2017, 12:50:49 AM
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Can you pop onto the Discord for just a second to see the channel for yourself and how it's laid out?
We're not voting on a just one or two things, it will be many submissions.

It should help to show how organized and simple it is. We've disabled commenting in the poll channel,
and only designers can post their submissions. All we have to do is add voting reactions once the deadline
is up and count them once the voting period is over. Simple!

In the case of one logo submission last time, the votes went up 60+ just hours before the voting period was over.
We were able to see via the logs that is was a botnet that submitted all those votes which made removing
them and getting an *accurate* count an easy matter.

Please understand that until you see it for yourself, you can't understand why we are adamant on using
the Discord for all important voting matters until something better comes along.


I see Discord works best for the convenience with accuracy.  I got it.  

If that's the decision, then o well.  Just wonder how many % of Mooncoin holders / soon-to-be-Mooncoin-holders are using Discord channel...


It's kinda sad that can't see the designs created, but I will be seeing the winner design when decided.  Wink

Why not join the Discord server so you can check out the designs?
https://discord.gg/Qx54TMU

Why "join" only to read/see?
You don't have to just read/see, you can post as well.

That is not the question.
The question is, why should one register only to read?

Bitcointalk works well, even polls are possible.

You'd like to open a couple dozen item voting poll on an open forum where nobody needs to register to vote?
Since when you can vote a poll on Bitcointalk without registering first?

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How exactly do you think that will go? Why exactly are you so determined to not click a Discord link and take 10 seconds
to see for yourself?

Why be forced to register on another platform?

I thought you were suggesting people don't have to sign up on BCT to vote?

Again, there a huge amount of ease of use factors you aren't considering over using the forum for a voting platform
versus the Discord. You might know that if you were actually ON the Discord. We aren't saying this just for the hell of it.

This conversation we're having is a PERFECT example of what is done better on the Discord... this is cumbersome as fuck.

It's only what you make it.
Maybe Discord-users have all day for discussions about rather unimportant topics. Me not. I'll be out, since I have expressed my opinion and I'm confident, that people who care will draw the right conclusions.

Pay attention ANN users; reverting to assuming negative things you can't know anything about (because he's not on the Discord
and knows nothing of its happenings) is classic troll misdirection. Make shit up when logic doesn't work! *slowclap*
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July 10, 2017, 12:56:03 AM
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You mean, anyone interested in Discord.

Until you have opened your Discord-channel, everything Mooncoin has been discussed here on Bitcointalk. Discord may be one other channel, but it is not THE channel.

Bitcointalk-users are NOT more inactive, even if you seem to transport this. Maybe they are working more in the background and you don't see it, because they do not call for some useless logo-contest every week.
Bitcointalk is not THE channel either. Look at what the starter of this community, MOONCOIN_FOUNDATION, is saying. This is a decentralized coin where no single place if the official channel.

The Discord gets hundreds times as many messages a day as this ANN and there are a lot of projects being worked on. Like I told you before, there are a lot of good projects coming from there. But you ignored that message. You're trying to manipulate this entire discussion. Stop the fudding man. You are harming Mooncoin.

I'm fudding and harming Mooncoin? LOL.  Please get into the history of Mooncoin first, before making such kind of postings.
As for the hundreds of thousands of messages a day on Discord: I never knew that quantity is better than quality. Must be a new principle.

Regarding the "no single place is the official channel": At least the most respected Mooncoin-channel for years and readable without registration should be considered the most official channel. I think we all can agree to this.

And now, I'm out, as said. Let's see what happens.

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July 10, 2017, 12:58:38 AM
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Can you pop onto the Discord for just a second to see the channel for yourself and how it's laid out?
We're not voting on a just one or two things, it will be many submissions.

It should help to show how organized and simple it is. We've disabled commenting in the poll channel,
and only designers can post their submissions. All we have to do is add voting reactions once the deadline
is up and count them once the voting period is over. Simple!

In the case of one logo submission last time, the votes went up 60+ just hours before the voting period was over.
We were able to see via the logs that is was a botnet that submitted all those votes which made removing
them and getting an *accurate* count an easy matter.

Please understand that until you see it for yourself, you can't understand why we are adamant on using
the Discord for all important voting matters until something better comes along.


I see Discord works best for the convenience with accuracy.  I got it.  

If that's the decision, then o well.  Just wonder how many % of Mooncoin holders / soon-to-be-Mooncoin-holders are using Discord channel...


It's kinda sad that can't see the designs created, but I will be seeing the winner design when decided.  Wink

Why not join the Discord server so you can check out the designs?
https://discord.gg/Qx54TMU

Why "join" only to read/see?
You don't have to just read/see, you can post as well.

That is not the question.
The question is, why should one register only to read?

Bitcointalk works well, even polls are possible.

You'd like to open a couple dozen item voting poll on an open forum where nobody needs to register to vote?
Since when you can vote a poll on Bitcointalk without registering first?

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How exactly do you think that will go? Why exactly are you so determined to not click a Discord link and take 10 seconds
to see for yourself?

Why be forced to register on another platform?

I thought you were suggesting people don't have to sign up on BCT to vote?

Again, there a huge amount of ease of use factors you aren't considering over using the forum for a voting platform
versus the Discord. You might know that if you were actually ON the Discord. We aren't saying this just for the hell of it.

This conversation we're having is a PERFECT example of what is done better on the Discord... this is cumbersome as fuck.

It's only what you make it.
Maybe Discord-users have all day for discussions about rather unimportant topics. Me not. I'll be out, since I have expressed my opinion and I'm confident, that people who care will draw the right conclusions.

Pay attention ANN users; reverting to assuming negative things you can't know anything about (because he's not on the Discord
and knows nothing of its happenings) is classic troll misdirection. Make shit up when logic doesn't work! *slowclap*

I'm excited to hear what other well-respected community-members for years think about this above posting.
Sorry, had to answer this. Over and out.

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July 10, 2017, 01:01:39 AM
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Mooncoin Discord has:

- Became a main point of communication for both Evangelo and barrysty1e in coordinating things such as
helping test newly developed algos, setting up various new initiatives (will list here), and coming up with different ideas and projects
that have so far only helped to further speed up and develop MOON in a positive direction.

- Started the MCF: Mooncoin Community Fund. The initial funding of the MCF (10 million MOON) was provided by me and since then, many other people
have donated further to it. Fund address located here for anyone wanting to check it out: 2LpMRkRjM6VQnttqB6X3L77tNZATx6Fzar
This has so far been used to compensate the latest Logo and Mascot designer winner (a single designer won both categories), tip for some bot
development in the Discord and will very soon be used for other things such as:

-- Setting up a MOON pool for a developing video game company who will very likely be using Mooncoin as their in-game currency!
-- Paying for a Apple development license for producing MOON based apps and games that can be made available on the Play Store and Apple Store!
-- Recurring advertisement for MOON as well as the production of informative videos and informational sites and articles.
-- Translation work for all the things mentioned that would be necessary.

- The Discord group has also been very active in social media; creating a new blog page with relevant, up to date information on the
happenings of MOON (available here: http://moonchan.org) tweeting our faces off to all exchanges and other relevant sites and people to garner further
attention, getting contacts together for further investing and project opportunities, etc.

- Initiated and gained control of the main subreddit r/mooncoin, which has not seen active moderators in over 2 years. 2 YEARS. Also started an
active Twitter account for Mooncoin. Which now has over 1k subscribers, in just a few weeks time.

- Developed a new Mooncoin website (http://www.mooncoin.eco) due to the current website (http://www.mooncoin.com) owner
being unwilling to update to current information.

- Started a Mooncoin Steam gaming group!

- Created a Master Job List of all who are working towards moving Mooncoin forward. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OFeDkyvkkzeaLCTCbACn2CuDXkQp0LFkvxzdFTdVQn8/edit?usp=sharing (please contact someone here in the ANN or on the Discord if you'd like to help out!)

AND MORE!

All 'rather unimportant topics', right coinflow?
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July 10, 2017, 01:02:35 AM
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You mean, anyone interested in Discord.

Until you have opened your Discord-channel, everything Mooncoin has been discussed here on Bitcointalk. Discord may be one other channel, but it is not THE channel.

Bitcointalk-users are NOT more inactive, even if you seem to transport this. Maybe they are working more in the background and you don't see it, because they do not call for some useless logo-contest every week.
Bitcointalk is not THE channel either. Look at what the starter of this community, MOONCOIN_FOUNDATION, is saying. This is a decentralized coin where no single place if the official channel.

The Discord gets hundreds times as many messages a day as this ANN and there are a lot of projects being worked on. Like I told you before, there are a lot of good projects coming from there. But you ignored that message. You're trying to manipulate this entire discussion. Stop the fudding man. You are harming Mooncoin.

I'm fudding and harming Mooncoin? LOL.  Please get into the history of Mooncoin first, before making such kind of postings.
As for the hundreds of thousands of messages a day on Discord: I never knew that quantity is better than quality. Must be a new principle.

Regarding the "no single place is the official channel": At least the most respected Mooncoin-channel for years and readable without registration should be considered the most official channel. I think we all can agree to this.

And now, I'm out, as said. Let's see what happens.
You are intentionally starting an uproar based on lies. Yes, that is harmful when outsiders see these messages.

Again you're only picking out certain aspects of the story. We have proven that we have quality. We personally got a deal with a big gaming studio, we got a tibia server to being set up, we got an upcoming moonstore, mooncasino and we are the ones testing out the new algo. So our quality is definitely better at the moment.

No, we all agreed on not having an official channel as we are decentralized. The Discord community, however, does have an official website where updates on major achievements of the community are being posted. So no, you don't need to register for the Discord to read their updates. Stop spreading the false information.
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July 10, 2017, 01:03:41 AM
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I'm excited to hear what other well-respected community-members for years think about this above posting.
Sorry, had to answer this. Over and out.
Again, the coin is decentralized at the moment. Everyone has equal voting rights. Old community members do not have more rights than newer community members.
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July 10, 2017, 01:05:32 AM
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You mean, anyone interested in Discord.

Until you have opened your Discord-channel, everything Mooncoin has been discussed here on Bitcointalk. Discord may be one other channel, but it is not THE channel.

Bitcointalk-users are NOT more inactive, even if you seem to transport this. Maybe they are working more in the background and you don't see it, because they do not call for some useless logo-contest every week.
Bitcointalk is not THE channel either. Look at what the starter of this community, MOONCOIN_FOUNDATION, is saying. This is a decentralized coin where no single place if the official channel.

The Discord gets hundreds times as many messages a day as this ANN and there are a lot of projects being worked on. Like I told you before, there are a lot of good projects coming from there. But you ignored that message. You're trying to manipulate this entire discussion. Stop the fudding man. You are harming Mooncoin.

I'm fudding and harming Mooncoin? LOL.  Please get into the history of Mooncoin first, before making such kind of postings.
As for the hundreds of thousands of messages a day on Discord: I never knew that quantity is better than quality. Must be a new principle.

Regarding the "no single place is the official channel": At least the most respected Mooncoin-channel for years and readable without registration should be considered the most official channel. I think we all can agree to this.

And now, I'm out, as said. Let's see what happens.

You're what is referred to as a 'dinosaur'; unable or unwilling to adapt or change when something different happens.

Join the Discord or not, this vote is happening, and when the majority speak and are subsequently ignored by the few of you
who think you own and control Mooncoin simply because you've been around longest, it's going to be a sad day for you.
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July 10, 2017, 01:09:44 AM
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Reposting for clarity:

The new logo contest poll has now been posted in the #moon_polls channel on the Discord.

Those wishing to submit their logos please do so within 7 days before the deadline is up.
Voting will then occur over 3 days. Please take a few minutes to register with the Discord
ASAP in order to view the submissions and eventually vote. Link here: https://discord.gg/Hhbmdjd

- If you CHOOSE not to vote, you have no recourse... you have ZERO right to complain.

- If you MISS the contest entirely, you have ZERO right to complain as it means you were
not active for 10 days in the Community; only in an extreme case would someone be without
the Internet for such a period of time. The contest will be posted in every single social media
outlet we have available to us.

- If you dislike, hate, or generally disagree with this logo contest, that is fine and your opinion
is valid. The vote will show what the Community wants.

In other words... if all you do is hold MOON and only show your face to complain or bitch about things
rather than join the Community in the many different ways available to you to engage in conversation,
project brainstorming or offer help with your specific talents, then you have ZERO right to complain.

DO SOMETHING. BE ACTIVE. GET INVOLVED. Smiley
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July 10, 2017, 02:11:30 AM
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Mooncoin Discord has:

- Became a main point of communication for both Evangelo and barrysty1e in coordinating things such as
helping test newly developed algos, setting up various new initiatives (will list here), and coming up with different ideas and projects
that have so far only helped to further speed up and develop MOON in a positive direction.

- Started the MCF: Mooncoin Community Fund. The initial funding of the MCF (10 million MOON) was provided by me and since then, many other people
have donated further to it. Fund address located here for anyone wanting to check it out: 2LpMRkRjM6VQnttqB6X3L77tNZATx6Fzar
This has so far been used to compensate the latest Logo and Mascot designer winner (a single designer won both categories), tip for some bot
development in the Discord and will very soon be used for other things such as:

-- Setting up a MOON pool for a developing video game company who will very likely be using Mooncoin as their in-game currency!
-- Paying for a Apple development license for producing MOON based apps and games that can be made available on the Play Store and Apple Store!
-- Recurring advertisement for MOON as well as the production of informative videos and informational sites and articles.
-- Translation work for all the things mentioned that would be necessary.

- The Discord group has also been very active in social media; creating a new blog page with relevant, up to date information on the
happenings of MOON (available here: http://moonchan.org) tweeting our faces off to all exchanges and other relevant sites and people to garner further
attention, getting contacts together for further investing and project opportunities, etc.

- Initiated and gained control of the main subreddit r/mooncoin, which has not seen active moderators in over 2 years. 2 YEARS. Also started an
active Twitter account for Mooncoin. Which now has over 1k subscribers, in just a few weeks time.

- Developed a new Mooncoin website (http://www.mooncoin.eco) due to the current website (http://www.mooncoin.com) owner
being unwilling to update to current information.

- Started a Mooncoin Steam gaming group!

- Created a Master Job List of all who are working towards moving Mooncoin forward. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OFeDkyvkkzeaLCTCbACn2CuDXkQp0LFkvxzdFTdVQn8/edit?usp=sharing (please contact someone here in the ANN or on the Discord if you'd like to help out!)

AND MORE!

...
Well done!  I like this.
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July 10, 2017, 02:44:32 AM
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Reposting for clarity:

The new logo contest poll has now been posted in the #moon_polls channel on the Discord.

Those wishing to submit their logos please do so within 7 days before the deadline is up.
Voting will then occur over 3 days. Please take a few minutes to register with the Discord
ASAP in order to vote. Link here: https://discord.gg/Hhbmdjd

- If you CHOOSE not to vote, you have no recourse... you have ZERO right to complain.

- If you MISS the contest entirely, you have ZERO right to complain as it means you were
not active for 10 days in the Community; only in an extreme case would someone be without
the Internet for such a period of time. The contest will be posted in every single social media
outlet we have available to us.

- If you dislike, hate, or generally disagree with this logo contest, that is fine and your opinion
is valid. The vote will show what the Community wants.

In other words... if all you do is hold MOON and only show your face to complain or bitch about things
rather than join the Community in the many different ways available to you to engage in conversation,
project brainstorming or offer help with your specific talents, then you have ZERO right to complain.

DO SOMETHING. BE ACTIVE. GET INVOLVED. Smiley
The only problem I had with the last "poll for a new logo" idea was the outcome.

1) For anyone who is already a mooninite the logo could be anything.  Sure the logo might matter a bit to the mooncoin collector, but not really, the collector is already interested in mooncoin.  The logo is important simply as a first impression, for those that stumble upon mooncoin for the first time, since it is one of those things they first set their eyes upon...  And so, from that perspective, to have a logo that is not a "moon" in some way is silly, and you'll end with more comments from those that have noticed mooncoin for the first time and wondered why its logo is a banana? (I use "banana" as a placeholder, I could have easily said: light bulb, pear, eye ball, thumb, or mouse).

2) ... or maybe, as with any internet poll, you could end up with the "boaty mcboatface" effect.  

Just speculating.
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July 10, 2017, 02:48:10 AM
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Reposting for clarity:

The new logo contest poll has now been posted in the #moon_polls channel on the Discord.

Those wishing to submit their logos please do so within 7 days before the deadline is up.
Voting will then occur over 3 days. Please take a few minutes to register with the Discord
ASAP in order to vote. Link here: https://discord.gg/Hhbmdjd

- If you CHOOSE not to vote, you have no recourse... you have ZERO right to complain.

- If you MISS the contest entirely, you have ZERO right to complain as it means you were
not active for 10 days in the Community; only in an extreme case would someone be without
the Internet for such a period of time. The contest will be posted in every single social media
outlet we have available to us.

- If you dislike, hate, or generally disagree with this logo contest, that is fine and your opinion
is valid. The vote will show what the Community wants.

In other words... if all you do is hold MOON and only show your face to complain or bitch about things
rather than join the Community in the many different ways available to you to engage in conversation,
project brainstorming or offer help with your specific talents, then you have ZERO right to complain.

DO SOMETHING. BE ACTIVE. GET INVOLVED. Smiley
The only problem I had with the last "poll for a new logo" idea was the outcome.

1) For anyone who is already a mooninite the logo could be anything.  Sure the logo might matter a bit to the mooncoin collector, but not really, the collector is already interested in mooncoin.  The logo is important simply as a first impression, for those that stumble upon mooncoin for the first time, since it is one of those things they first set their eyes upon...  And so, from that perspective, to have a logo that is not a "moon" in some way is silly, and you'll end with more comments from those that have noticed mooncoin for the first time and wondered why its logo is a banana? (I use "banana" as a placeholder, I could have easily said: light bulb, pear, eye ball, thumb, or mouse).

2) ... or maybe, as with any internet poll, you could end up with the "boaty mcboatface" effect.  Just speculating.

Regarding 1: A majority vote would reflect all you say. The winning logo would almost certainly incorporate some semblance of the Moon, though it
doesn't necessarily have to to be liked more.

2: Exactly the issue with open voting with no way to audit the votes. The Discord system eliminates this.
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July 10, 2017, 02:56:35 AM
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July 10, 2017, 03:03:04 AM
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Please create Decktop light wallet, Electrum for windows.
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July 10, 2017, 03:42:34 AM
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.. a Discord server can be set up in such a way to allow guests to enter a temprary name and password and remain "anon" and post as guests without giving an email address at any time.  However the IP address may show of the user..
Could a vpn be used to hide the originating IP?
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July 10, 2017, 03:43:52 AM
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Reposting for clarity:

The new logo contest poll has now been posted in the #moon_polls channel on the Discord.

Those wishing to submit their logos please do so within 7 days before the deadline is up.
Voting will then occur over 3 days. Please take a few minutes to register with the Discord
ASAP in order to vote. Link here: https://discord.gg/Hhbmdjd

- If you CHOOSE not to vote, you have no recourse... you have ZERO right to complain.

- If you MISS the contest entirely, you have ZERO right to complain as it means you were
not active for 10 days in the Community; only in an extreme case would someone be without
the Internet for such a period of time. The contest will be posted in every single social media
outlet we have available to us.

- If you dislike, hate, or generally disagree with this logo contest, that is fine and your opinion
is valid. The vote will show what the Community wants.

In other words... if all you do is hold MOON and only show your face to complain or bitch about things
rather than join the Community in the many different ways available to you to engage in conversation,
project brainstorming or offer help with your specific talents, then you have ZERO right to complain.

DO SOMETHING. BE ACTIVE. GET INVOLVED. Smiley
The only problem I had with the last "poll for a new logo" idea was the outcome.

1) For anyone who is already a mooninite the logo could be anything.  Sure the logo might matter a bit to the mooncoin collector, but not really, the collector is already interested in mooncoin.  The logo is important simply as a first impression, for those that stumble upon mooncoin for the first time, since it is one of those things they first set their eyes upon...  And so, from that perspective, to have a logo that is not a "moon" in some way is silly, and you'll end with more comments from those that have noticed mooncoin for the first time and wondered why its logo is a banana? (I use "banana" as a placeholder, I could have easily said: light bulb, pear, eye ball, thumb, or mouse).

2) ... or maybe, as with any internet poll, you could end up with the "boaty mcboatface" effect.  Just speculating.

Regarding 1: A majority vote would reflect all you say. The winning logo would almost certainly incorporate some semblance of the Moon, though it
doesn't necessarily have to to be liked more.

2: Exactly the issue with open voting with no way to audit the votes. The Discord system eliminates this.
2: If the discord system can audit this, then all the better.
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July 10, 2017, 01:35:49 PM
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Stop it .... Chillax and work together without attacking each others free right to voice their opinions !

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July 10, 2017, 02:51:46 PM
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.. a Discord server can be set up in such a way to allow guests to enter a temprary name and password and remain "anon" and post as guests without giving an email address at any time.  However the IP address may show of the user..
Could a vpn be used to hide the originating IP?

yes, however not all vpn services are created equal.  Some have reporting laws they must follow.  others are easiy to break or detect.  Lots to know there..  But short answer is yes it will show a different IP to the server host.  I heard the fbi got a law passed in the US that allows them to intrude on devices that are shown to be using vpn services.  I am not sure that law is true and if so has yet been tested by the courts..

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July 10, 2017, 03:00:29 PM
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@Littlestan, you have exactly ZERO right to decide others right to complain.

Still no valid answer is provided why the current logo must be changed.
Again, I am not joining Discord nor using new logo.
Do not try to relocate the Mooncoin community because all you do is to divide it.

It has been provided.

1. We were rocking this yellow logo up to earlier this year:


Then the placeholder blue ellipse came up. A lot of people complained about it looking too simple and not professional enough. So Evangelo, the marketing director at the time, initiated a vote. So in the discord community, a vote was cast and people overwhelmingly agreed on a logo change.

The vote is also supported by the developer. So the logo will be used on all exchanges and in the wallet. Not using it for your own project only harms your own project.
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Since when is the moon yellow or gold? it is associated with silver or grey so the mooncoin logo should be of that colour type

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@Littlestan, you have exactly ZERO right to decide others right to complain.

Still no valid answer is provided why the current logo must be changed.
Again, I am not joining Discord nor using new logo.
Do not try to relocate the Mooncoin community because all you do is to divide it.

It has been provided.

1. We were rocking this yellow logo up to earlier this year:


Then the placeholder blue ellipse came up. A lot of people complained about it looking too simple and not professional enough. So Evangelo, the marketing director at the time, initiated a vote. So in the discord community, a vote was cast and people overwhelmingly agreed on a logo change.

The vote is also supported by the developer. So the logo will be used on all exchanges and in the wallet. Not using it for your own project only harms your own project.

This is the Europe Moon. Cool



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