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July 26, 2017, 05:46:57 PM
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There's not so much news. But I think the news will be in the near future. And the price of the coin will slowly grow. We will observe!
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Many courses have recovered. Only Mooncoin is not there.There is a lack of a super news for the future so
the price is slowly rising . And only Yoshit and other small exchanges are also not so great
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July 26, 2017, 06:10:02 PM
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MOON is not technically in 2014. It's based on a 0.10.4 Litecoin core from late 2016.
Other than not ideal difficulty retarget algo, it works great.

Of course, there is always a place to improve it.
But the most important thing is real use.
We all have to find a way how to make MOON a really interesting coin for people.

If people (inculding you) use it on a daily basis, everything else is just a matter of time.
If people don't use it, nothing will help.

There are already some ideas.

Of course, after the news about btc-e and after July sales of almost all Altcoins,
say, NAUT, listed at Bittrex and Polo, was almost 30000 Sat, now 7000,
Stellar was 4500 Sat, now 700, etc. etc,
a quick buck is not expected, time will tell, MOON doesn't look overhyped.

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MOON is not technically in 2014. It's based on a 0.10.4 Litecoin core from late 2016.
Other than not ideal difficulty retarget algo, it works great.

Of course, there is always a place to improve it.
But the most important thing is real use.
We all have to find a way how to make MOON a really interesting coin for people.

If people (inculding you) use it on a daily basis, everything else is just a matter of time.
If people don't use it, nothing will help.

There are already some ideas.

Of course, after the news about btc-e and after July sales of almost all Altcoins,
say, NAUT, listed at Bittrex and Polo, was almost 30000 Sat, now 7000,
Stellar was 4500 Sat, now 700, etc. etc,
a quick buck is not expected, time will tell, MOON doesn't look overhyped.

Sorry, I was referring to the fact that it's Scrypt based still.

The crypto you list have some function other than just being a crypto. Nobody (including me) will use MOON on a daily basis if it serves no functional purpose.
Once the updates occur, *then* we have a base from which to build functions upon.
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July 26, 2017, 08:29:16 PM
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If understand this correctly.
What is necessary, thank you very much to those people who have contributed to the emergence of, and participated in adding the moon to the exchange!
Next step, I advise people engaged in advertising of the moon, to spend 10-100 dollars on advertising. Buy advertising in social networks. Please don't wait! Now, just a moment after you add the moon, this is the best step. Buy a small advertisement.
The people involved in the creation of articles, write in the framework of the law on social networks about this news. Don't wait, please. Good luck in your work.
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July 27, 2017, 09:06:44 AM
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The Scrypt algo is not so bad.
LTC is Scrypt, DOGE is Scrypt, even many brand new coins choose a Scrypt algo,
it's time tested and works great.

Barrysty1e told me in PMs before that a Scrypt algo had many advantages,
first of all, it's supported by a lot of pools, it's universal.

Of course, changing an algo is not bad either,
because many people who are in crypto believe that a Scrypt algo is bad (it's not so, it's just a well-promoted bias),
but biases drive prices.

Also thanks to Evangelo for spending money for advertising marketing campaigns in Facebook,
if someone wants to support his campaign, please PM him and donate some MOON to him.

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July 27, 2017, 10:50:48 AM
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The Scrypt algo is not so bad.
LTC is Scrypt, DOGE is Scrypt, even many brand new coins choose a Scrypt algo,
it's time tested and works great.

Barrysty1e told me in PMs before that a Scrypt algo had many advantages,
first of all, it's supported by a lot of pools, it's universal.

Of course, changing an algo is not bad either,
because many people who are in crypto believe that a Scrypt algo is bad (it's not so, it's just a well-promoted bias),
but biases drive prices.

Also thanks to Evangelo for spending money for advertising marketing campaigns in Facebook,
if someone wants to support his campaign, please PM him and donate some MOON to him.

Your change averse attitude to Mooncoin is troubling. Times have changed, new feature-rich, well thought-out altcoins are being brought to market, heavily invested in, and succeeding, however, Mooncoin´s value has remained stagnant.

All coins are constantly evolving to suit the needs of the market and those who don´t get left to die- even bitcoin is going through a metamorphosis because the market changed its requirements.

The consensus is that Scrypt is dying- regardless of if it still can be used, there is no demand for it, signalling its impending demise. ERC20 icos are raising hundreds of millions of USD in less than a few hours, any reasonable person can answer why this is happening, aside from the novelty, these coins offer exciting features on a cutting-edge piece of software.

Htmlcoin had a revival around the same time as Mooncoin, and have had a near identical recent market history. They´re going through a coin swap and updating their software to include smart contracts. Common sense alone will tell you that such a drastic change, which is keeping in line with the status quo, will be rewarded by the market.

Dogecoin is a shitcoin, but has a huge community who believe in it because at its root is a novel, innocuous joke which has mass appeal - who doesn´t like dogs and Japanese women? Its recent market success didn´t come from its community trading with eachother (afterall it has little economic value when its true purpose is comedy) but from a random stroke of luck/ a pump at the right time. Mooncoin cannot replicate this, our joke isn´t funny enough.

What is obvious to many observers of Mooncoin- because the market is always watching- is that goals are arbitrary here and the means to achieve these goals are even more variable. People want clearly defined realistic goals so that they can reason whether mooncoin has the potential they´re looking for-your idealistic approach to achieve market success is inconducive to this.

Regarding barrysty1le, effort should have been made to compensate our lead contributors efforts before any problem arouse. Complete decentralistion seems to be synonymous with 0 responsibility, a consequence is the undeniable lack of confidence towards mooncoin throughtout the cryptosphere.

For the interested observer, all issues have either been addressed or are being addressed and no problem is big enough to not have a solution.  

Time will tell won´t cut it in this industry.
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July 27, 2017, 11:55:30 AM
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The Scrypt algo is not so bad.
LTC is Scrypt, DOGE is Scrypt, even many brand new coins choose a Scrypt algo,
it's time tested and works great.

Barrysty1e told me in PMs before that a Scrypt algo had many advantages,
first of all, it's supported by a lot of pools, it's universal.

Of course, changing an algo is not bad either,
because many people who are in crypto believe that a Scrypt algo is bad (it's not so, it's just a well-promoted bias),
but biases drive prices.

Also thanks to Evangelo for spending money for advertising marketing campaigns in Facebook,
if someone wants to support his campaign, please PM him and donate some MOON to him.

Guys it would be interesting to have a community slack ..

Otherwise it is complicated to have a community .. Not everyone uses DISCORD .. and slack is very used in crypto !

Just my opinion

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July 27, 2017, 12:03:33 PM
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The Scrypt algo is not so bad.
LTC is Scrypt, DOGE is Scrypt, even many brand new coins choose a Scrypt algo,
it's time tested and works great.

Barrysty1e told me in PMs before that a Scrypt algo had many advantages,
first of all, it's supported by a lot of pools, it's universal.

Of course, changing an algo is not bad either,
because many people who are in crypto believe that a Scrypt algo is bad (it's not so, it's just a well-promoted bias),
but biases drive prices.

Also thanks to Evangelo for spending money for advertising marketing campaigns in Facebook,
if someone wants to support his campaign, please PM him and donate some MOON to him.

Your change averse attitude to Mooncoin is troubling. Times have changed, new feature-rich, well thought-out altcoins are being brought to market, heavily invested in, and succeeding, however, Mooncoin´s value has remained stagnant.

All coins are constantly evolving to suit the needs of the market and those who don´t get left to die- even bitcoin is going through a metamorphosis because the market changed its requirements.

The consensus is that Scrypt is dying- regardless of if it still can be used, there is no demand for it, signalling its impending demise. ERC20 icos are raising hundreds of millions of USD in less than a few hours, any reasonable person can answer why this is happening, aside from the novelty, these coins offer exciting features on a cutting-edge piece of software.

Htmlcoin had a revival around the same time as Mooncoin, and have had a near identical recent market history. They´re going through a coin swap and updating their software to include smart contracts. Common sense alone will tell you that such a drastic change, which is keeping in line with the status quo, will be rewarded by the market.

Dogecoin is a shitcoin, but has a huge community who believe in it because at its root is a novel, innocuous joke which has mass appeal - who doesn´t like dogs and Japanese women? Its recent market success didn´t come from its community trading with eachother (afterall it has little economic value when its true purpose is comedy) but from a random stroke of luck/ a pump at the right time. Mooncoin cannot replicate this, our joke isn´t funny enough.

What is obvious to many observers of Mooncoin- because the market is always watching- is that goals are arbitrary here and the means to achieve these goals are even more variable. People want clearly defined realistic goals so that they can reason whether mooncoin has the potential they´re looking for-your idealistic approach to achieve market success is inconducive to this.

Regarding barrysty1le, effort should have been made to compensate our lead contributors efforts before any problem arouse. Complete decentralistion seems to be synonymous with 0 responsibility, a consequence is the undeniable lack of confidence towards mooncoin throughtout the cryptosphere.

For the interested observer, all issues have either been addressed or are being addressed and no problem is big enough to not have a solution.  

Time will tell won´t cut it in this industry.

I agree, projects must evolve.

Mooncoin has a history, qualities ..

But I find that Mooncoin looks like an old book ..

No structured financing (blockchain rewards for example)
No roadmap
No slack as all projects use this today to support the community
Little technical evolution

Today the only thing that saves you is your very high supply.

Even at 1 satoshi, you are still in the 200 best crypto in the marketcap ranking ..

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July 27, 2017, 03:14:19 PM
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We all have to find a way how to make MOON a really interesting coin for people

If you have good programmers and site builders.
The idea is to create a small shop, all operations are only in the Moon!
(Exchange of goods - with surcharge), (and purchase of sale of goods).
Mandatory many languages. For the first time, you can implement (online translator Google).
A person comes to the site to register.
He transferred from his bank card to his account, online conversion (in the account, at the rate, the Moon appears).
Buying, selling, (exchange - with surcharge) for the first time to set a limit of 10 to 100 dollars.
Duplicate the official store's page in social networks (this will be self-promotion).
Such an idea is not met, on this official Lunar Shop should be created on a separate domin and this is important to attract!
(and, or - a small application for android, apple, windows).
Goods can be any, but better, one that does not need to be mailed)
The most important thing is that everything was according to the law and honest!

I sincerely believe in your aspirations for the revival of the moon, but I would like to note
(otherwise I did not leave 6 million coins).
If advice is not used, it is similar to collecting profitable ideas or searching for professionals or
monitoring the possibility of individuals and their ideas, for later implementation in their projects
for financial gain. But those people who come up with ideas and spend their personal time on (sometimes abstract help) teach (zero, in the financial sense and empty pockets and spent in empty personal time).
Besides, what is the point of giving ideas that are not used at all.
I understand that everything takes time, but sometimes there is no time, no matter how much we would like!

The most negative thing in this situation is that the Moon, in 2017, has a real opportunity to jump up, with a small but steady course (for the entire world and ordinary people, 50 sat, for purchases and sales quite a worthy course), moreover, in Connection with interest in the Moon this year and the cosmos as a whole. The ideal time for the moon!
And the negative will be if the Moon remains nothing.

So you can not stand still and think for a long time. I hope everyone understands how in our time
people's trajectories change dramatically, especially to the crypto-currency. The moon is beautiful with great potential, but can go into oblivion...
Those people who are involved in the development of the Moon and the second objection (people, you now have a real chance, to become those who create history), perhaps this is a small niche, but it is there! Or go into oblivion.

The main thing you need to find (the necessary tools in the form of human knowledge and do everything honestly), and you will succeed, I'm sure!


LTC is Scrypt
Silver coin does not go anywhere and even the rate rises
Extremely do not recommend changing the algorithm until the coin is worth it (firmly on your feet)!
You will lose time, which is at the hands of competitors, this is a lottery, can attract or completely
kill the moon.

I would like to help with coins for advertising, but now, unfortunately, I do not have such an
opportunity.
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July 27, 2017, 03:24:56 PM
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Perhaps in the form of a simple game, a small application for android, apple, windows, but it needs a scenario, is somewhat more complicated.
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July 27, 2017, 04:47:34 PM
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Perhaps in the form of a simple game, a small application for android, apple, windows, but it needs a scenario, is somewhat more complicated.

They should make and astroids type game since the coins called mooncoin 🌒 Making it for Android would be the best. They could use unity to design and create the game.
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July 27, 2017, 05:19:55 PM
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I absolutely agree that we need changes.
In my opinion, one of the most promising things which Mooncoin can give to common people to use it on a daily basis
is Smart Likes. Real use cases.

Barry promised to implement it some time ago, but still it's in progress.
Perhaps he faced difficulties with it, or just he is too busy with other tasks.

It's not a problem to invite someone else, the problem is tech people are afraid to be involved with Altcoin development,
they can agree to help, but they never will provide their personal details, and will you trust binaries from an unknown 3rd party dev?
That's not so easy to find a solution.
Of course, much trust already was delivered by our community to our dev barrysty1e. He already did a lot for MOON, implemented some unique features (e.g. freezing Cryptsy addresses), it's quite sad that he is not too active now, when people are waiting for news from him.

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July 27, 2017, 05:51:50 PM
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And to mention it again:
MOON is not a revived coin. It was never dead.
The whole Altcoin market was down significantly in 2014-2015,
but if prices go down, it doesn't mean that a coin is dead,
if it had many independent block explorers, ongoing community support etc,
also after the Cryptsy insolvency, MOON was not listed at large exchanges, but MOON never was delisted from Cryptsy (like some people were saying), quite the opposite: it was one of the most active Cryptsy markets till the very date when Cryptsy stopped functioning, and for a long time it was the most active Cryptsy LTC market.
Other large exchanges could provide a place to continue MOON active trading, but they didn't do that because they were focused on listing ICO tokens then,
so MOON became an experiment, can a coin survive and be in top 100 if it has a big community, but not listed at big exchanges.
MOON proved it could.
Some coins were listed at big exchanges, then delisted (e.g. SDC), and now their market cap is just 1 percent of what it used to be.
MOON has proved: it can rise even without big exchanges.
Of course, if they list it, they could get a lot of fees and we could see a big rise, but they decide it.
Maybe it's even good, we all avoided a temptation to sell coins at large exchanges for 30-100 Sat and to become instant millionaires, and now we all think of active further development. It's a good challenge, are we able to overcome all difficulties, or not, are Mooncoin supporters wise, talented, devoted or not?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_beFX7AF3LA&feature=youtu.be
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Good afternoon from Greece ! Nice video !

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July 27, 2017, 07:53:03 PM
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To those defending the current Scrypt algo:

Are you not aware of the current monstrously long
average transaction wait times? The occasional several
hour blocks sticking because of the overly complicated
difficulty readjustments?

Look at this: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/moon/
Specifically the Age column.

Now look at any other coins blockchain with a modern
algo and tell me that you feel our current Scrypt algo is
'good enough'.
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July 27, 2017, 08:00:51 PM
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To those defending the current Scrypt algo:

Are you not aware of the current monstrously long
average transaction wait times? The occasional several
hour blocks sticking because of the overly complicated
difficulty readjustments?

Look at this: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/moon/
Specifically the Age column.

Now look at any other coins blockchain with a modern
algo and tell me that you feel our current Scrypt algo is
'good enough'.

There are many, many coins out there using the Scrypt algorithm and this is not a common problem. This is occurring with MOON because of other issues.

MOON was working just fine before the changes to the wallet, at which point it started having these issues. It is the wallet software itself that is the cause of the problem, not the algorithm. When you hire shitty developers this is what you get.

I had absolutely 0 problems with the MOON wallet running 24/7 for years until the new wallets were released, that is when things went bad.
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July 27, 2017, 08:12:24 PM
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To those defending the current Scrypt algo:

Are you not aware of the current monstrously long
average transaction wait times? The occasional several
hour blocks sticking because of the overly complicated
difficulty readjustments?

Look at this: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/moon/
Specifically the Age column.

Now look at any other coins blockchain with a modern
algo and tell me that you feel our current Scrypt algo is
'good enough'.

There are many, many coins out there using the Scrypt algorithm and this is not a common problem. This is occurring with MOON because of other issues.

MOON was working just fine before the changes to the wallet, at which point it started having these issues. It is the wallet software itself that is the cause of the problem, not the algorithm. When you hire shitty developers this is what you get.

I had absolutely 0 problems with the MOON wallet running 24/7 for years until the new wallets were released, that is when things went bad.

The issue is the lack of miners to support the shitty Scrypt algo. Current algos do not suffer from these problems.

Unless you have definitive proof of shitty programming? Or just more assumptions?

Even when we did have a ton of mining support with the recent big volume, there were still the several hour stuck blocks from difficulty retargeting.
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July 27, 2017, 08:32:43 PM
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Let's be fair.
It's not a fault of barrysty1e (a current dev) or of Scrypt algo itself,
pauses between blocks occur solely due to implementing of DigiShield difficulty retarget algo.
And why was it implemented?
Because one of the oldest Mooncoin supporters and miners coinflow recommended that to protect small miners.
And why did he recommend it?
He told why: only because an original dev deaconboogie recommended it earlier.
So it was an original dev's idea.

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To those defending the current Scrypt algo:

Are you not aware of the current monstrously long
average transaction wait times? The occasional several
hour blocks sticking because of the overly complicated
difficulty readjustments?

Look at this: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/moon/
Specifically the Age column.

Now look at any other coins blockchain with a modern
algo and tell me that you feel our current Scrypt algo is
'good enough'.

There are many, many coins out there using the Scrypt algorithm and this is not a common problem. This is occurring with MOON because of other issues.

MOON was working just fine before the changes to the wallet, at which point it started having these issues. It is the wallet software itself that is the cause of the problem, not the algorithm. When you hire shitty developers this is what you get.

I had absolutely 0 problems with the MOON wallet running 24/7 for years until the new wallets were released, that is when things went bad.

The issue is the lack of miners to support the shitty Scrypt algo. Current algos do not suffer from these problems.

Unless you have definitive proof of shitty programming? Or just more assumptions?

Even when we did have a ton of mining support with the recent big volume, there were still the several hour stuck blocks from difficulty retargeting.

Definitive proof.. Yes, it's called multiple wallets barry made for me that were all broken. He couldn't provide me with a working wallet that he was paid for. There's a reason your dev has negative trust here.

For lack of miners, this was not an issue previously. I never had issues sending MOON nor in the thousands of transactions I've done with MOON did I have to wait hours for them to arrive.
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