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July 10, 2017, 12:11:07 AM
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1. Why does Mooncoin need a new logo at all? I have not read a single really valid reason.
2. Since when has been Discord - or whatever it is called - an official outlet of information for MOON? It seems a group of newbies tries to pull the interest over to that channel. For whatever reason, we don't know.
3. It seems that Discord needs a registration only to read. A no-go, to be accepted as an official source of information.
4. It looks like a small group of MOON-newbies is trying to see a "logo-contest" as what is needed for MOON "to survive". Think about what really can be done for MOON, instead of that logo-kindergarten.

In my opinion the original MOON-logo created by deaconboogie is the one and only logo that is needed, which may be optimized slightly, OK, but not now. Regarding this, I'm of the same opinion as another long-term contributor: agswinner. Other serious long-term supporters have expressed their opinion about this needless logo-rave also. There are really more important things to do, than a new logo.

Whether you are a long term supporter or short term supporter does not matter at all. Your opinion is not weighted on such. Neither
does the amount of MOON you may or may not have. You are the few who keep repeating that you like the logo and don't want change
but don't understand the huge amount of people who already voiced their desire for the original logo contest to even happen.

Here's what I don't understand about you guys... you don't really have a clue how many Mooninites there are on the Discord, yet
you constantly paint the group like there's just a few of us and that we're 'amateurs' or 'newbies'. Are you aware that Evangelo and Barry are
both on the Discord and support this movement? And that they've both been on there since shortly after its conception?

To vote here you also have to sign up with an email. It's the same bloody thing. Join the Discord. Talk with the people there who
are actually doing something. Get a clue.

How to get a clue/information without registering? If a registration is needed only to read, it is an irrelevant channel, because the broad public won't read it anyway.

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July 10, 2017, 12:12:01 AM
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Can you pop onto the Discord for just a second to see the channel for yourself and how it's laid out?
We're not voting on a just one or two things, it will be many submissions.

It should help to show how organized and simple it is. We've disabled commenting in the poll channel,
and only designers can post their submissions. All we have to do is add voting reactions once the deadline
is up and count them once the voting period is over. Simple!

In the case of one logo submission last time, the votes went up 60+ just hours before the voting period was over.
We were able to see via the logs that is was a botnet that submitted all those votes which made removing
them and getting an *accurate* count an easy matter.

Please understand that until you see it for yourself, you can't understand why we are adamant on using
the Discord for all important voting matters until something better comes along.


I see Discord works best for the convenience with accuracy.  I got it. 

If that's the decision, then o well.  Just wonder how many % of Mooncoin holders / soon-to-be-Mooncoin-holders are using Discord channel...


It's kinda sad that can't see the designs created, but I will be seeing the winner design when decided.  Wink

Why not join the Discord server so you can check out the designs?
https://discord.gg/Qx54TMU

Why "join" only to read/see?

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July 10, 2017, 12:13:35 AM
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1. Why does Mooncoin need a new logo at all? I have not read a single really valid reason.
2. Since when has been Discord - or whatever it is called - an official outlet of information for MOON? It seems a group of newbies tries to pull the interest over to that channel. For whatever reason, we don't know.
3. It seems that Discord needs a registration only to read. A no-go, to be accepted as an official source of information.
4. It looks like a small group of MOON-newbies is trying to see a "logo-contest" as what is needed for MOON "to survive". Think about what really can be done for MOON, instead of that logo-kindergarten.

In my opinion the original MOON-logo created by deaconboogie is the one and only logo that is needed, which may be optimized slightly, OK, but not now. Regarding this, I'm of the same opinion as another long-term contributor: agswinner. Other serious long-term supporters have expressed their opinion about this needless logo-rave also. There are really more important things to do, than a new logo.

Whether you are a long term supporter or short term supporter does not matter at all. Your opinion is not weighted on such. Neither
does the amount of MOON you may or may not have. You are the few who keep repeating that you like the logo and don't want change
but don't understand the huge amount of people who already voiced their desire for the original logo contest to even happen.

Here's what I don't understand about you guys... you don't really have a clue how many Mooninites there are on the Discord, yet
you constantly paint the group like there's just a few of us and that we're 'amateurs' or 'newbies'. Are you aware that Evangelo and Barry are
both on the Discord and support this movement? And that they've both been on there since shortly after its conception?

To vote here you also have to sign up with an email. It's the same bloody thing. Join the Discord. Talk with the people there who
are actually doing something. Get a clue.

How to get a clue/information without registering? If a registration is needed only to read, it is an irrelevant channel, because the broad public won't read it anyway.

So you can communicate in open and flowing discussion. Do you know what Discord is? Hundreds of people are already signed up there,
there's literally no reason why you or anyone else can't do the same.
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July 10, 2017, 12:14:36 AM
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Can you pop onto the Discord for just a second to see the channel for yourself and how it's laid out?
We're not voting on a just one or two things, it will be many submissions.

It should help to show how organized and simple it is. We've disabled commenting in the poll channel,
and only designers can post their submissions. All we have to do is add voting reactions once the deadline
is up and count them once the voting period is over. Simple!

In the case of one logo submission last time, the votes went up 60+ just hours before the voting period was over.
We were able to see via the logs that is was a botnet that submitted all those votes which made removing
them and getting an *accurate* count an easy matter.

Please understand that until you see it for yourself, you can't understand why we are adamant on using
the Discord for all important voting matters until something better comes along.


I see Discord works best for the convenience with accuracy.  I got it. 

If that's the decision, then o well.  Just wonder how many % of Mooncoin holders / soon-to-be-Mooncoin-holders are using Discord channel...


It's kinda sad that can't see the designs created, but I will be seeing the winner design when decided.  Wink

Why not join the Discord server so you can check out the designs?
https://discord.gg/Qx54TMU

Why "join" only to read/see?
You don't have to just read/see, you can post as well.
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July 10, 2017, 12:16:10 AM
 #2405

1. Why does Mooncoin need a new logo at all? I have not read a single really valid reason.
2. Since when has been Discord - or whatever it is called - an official outlet of information for MOON? It seems a group of newbies tries to pull the interest over to that channel. For whatever reason, we don't know.
3. It seems that Discord needs a registration only to read. A no-go, to be accepted as an official source of information.
4. It looks like a small group of MOON-newbies is trying to see a "logo-contest" as what is needed for MOON "to survive". Think about what really can be done for MOON, instead of that logo-kindergarten.

In my opinion the original MOON-logo created by deaconboogie is the one and only logo that is needed, which may be optimized slightly, OK, but not now. Regarding this, I'm of the same opinion as another long-term contributor: agswinner. Other serious long-term supporters have expressed their opinion about this needless logo-rave also. There are really more important things to do, than a new logo.

Whether you are a long term supporter or short term supporter does not matter at all. Your opinion is not weighted on such. Neither
does the amount of MOON you may or may not have. You are the few who keep repeating that you like the logo and don't want change
but don't understand the huge amount of people who already voiced their desire for the original logo contest to even happen.

Here's what I don't understand about you guys... you don't really have a clue how many Mooninites there are on the Discord, yet
you constantly paint the group like there's just a few of us and that we're 'amateurs' or 'newbies'. Are you aware that Evangelo and Barry are
both on the Discord and support this movement? And that they've both been on there since shortly after its conception?

To vote here you also have to sign up with an email. It's the same bloody thing. Join the Discord. Talk with the people there who
are actually doing something. Get a clue.

How to get a clue/information without registering? If a registration is needed only to read, it is an irrelevant channel, because the broad public won't read it anyway.

The 'broad public' isn't what the channel is for; it's for active Mooncoin holders and enthusiasts. Only a few thousand of us! So not so bad after all.
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July 10, 2017, 12:17:43 AM
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Can you pop onto the Discord for just a second to see the channel for yourself and how it's laid out?
We're not voting on a just one or two things, it will be many submissions.

It should help to show how organized and simple it is. We've disabled commenting in the poll channel,
and only designers can post their submissions. All we have to do is add voting reactions once the deadline
is up and count them once the voting period is over. Simple!

In the case of one logo submission last time, the votes went up 60+ just hours before the voting period was over.
We were able to see via the logs that is was a botnet that submitted all those votes which made removing
them and getting an *accurate* count an easy matter.

Please understand that until you see it for yourself, you can't understand why we are adamant on using
the Discord for all important voting matters until something better comes along.


I see Discord works best for the convenience with accuracy.  I got it. 

If that's the decision, then o well.  Just wonder how many % of Mooncoin holders / soon-to-be-Mooncoin-holders are using Discord channel...


It's kinda sad that can't see the designs created, but I will be seeing the winner design when decided.  Wink

Why not join the Discord server so you can check out the designs?
https://discord.gg/Qx54TMU

Why "join" only to read/see?
You don't have to just read/see, you can post as well.

That is not the question.
The question is, why should one register only to read?

Bitcointalk works well, even polls are possible.

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July 10, 2017, 12:19:58 AM
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Can you pop onto the Discord for just a second to see the channel for yourself and how it's laid out?
We're not voting on a just one or two things, it will be many submissions.

It should help to show how organized and simple it is. We've disabled commenting in the poll channel,
and only designers can post their submissions. All we have to do is add voting reactions once the deadline
is up and count them once the voting period is over. Simple!

In the case of one logo submission last time, the votes went up 60+ just hours before the voting period was over.
We were able to see via the logs that is was a botnet that submitted all those votes which made removing
them and getting an *accurate* count an easy matter.

Please understand that until you see it for yourself, you can't understand why we are adamant on using
the Discord for all important voting matters until something better comes along.


I see Discord works best for the convenience with accuracy.  I got it. 

If that's the decision, then o well.  Just wonder how many % of Mooncoin holders / soon-to-be-Mooncoin-holders are using Discord channel...


It's kinda sad that can't see the designs created, but I will be seeing the winner design when decided.  Wink

Why not join the Discord server so you can check out the designs?
https://discord.gg/Qx54TMU

Why "join" only to read/see?
You don't have to just read/see, you can post as well.

That is not the question.
The question is, why should one register only to read?

Bitcointalk works well, even polls are possible.

You'd like to open a couple dozen item voting poll on an open forum where nobody needs to register to vote?

How exactly do you think that will go? Why exactly are you so determined to not click a Discord link and take 10 seconds
to see for yourself?
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July 10, 2017, 12:21:44 AM
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1. Why does Mooncoin need a new logo at all? I have not read a single really valid reason.
2. Since when has been Discord - or whatever it is called - an official outlet of information for MOON? It seems a group of newbies tries to pull the interest over to that channel. For whatever reason, we don't know.
3. It seems that Discord needs a registration only to read. A no-go, to be accepted as an official source of information.
4. It looks like a small group of MOON-newbies is trying to see a "logo-contest" as what is needed for MOON "to survive". Think about what really can be done for MOON, instead of that logo-kindergarten.

In my opinion the original MOON-logo created by deaconboogie is the one and only logo that is needed, which may be optimized slightly, OK, but not now. Regarding this, I'm of the same opinion as another long-term contributor: agswinner. Other serious long-term supporters have expressed their opinion about this needless logo-rave also. There are really more important things to do, than a new logo.

Whether you are a long term supporter or short term supporter does not matter at all. Your opinion is not weighted on such. Neither
does the amount of MOON you may or may not have. You are the few who keep repeating that you like the logo and don't want change
but don't understand the huge amount of people who already voiced their desire for the original logo contest to even happen.

Here's what I don't understand about you guys... you don't really have a clue how many Mooninites there are on the Discord, yet
you constantly paint the group like there's just a few of us and that we're 'amateurs' or 'newbies'. Are you aware that Evangelo and Barry are
both on the Discord and support this movement? And that they've both been on there since shortly after its conception?

To vote here you also have to sign up with an email. It's the same bloody thing. Join the Discord. Talk with the people there who
are actually doing something. Get a clue.

How to get a clue/information without registering? If a registration is needed only to read, it is an irrelevant channel, because the broad public won't read it anyway.

The 'broad public' isn't what the channel is for; it's for active Mooncoin holders and enthusiasts. Only a few thousand of us! So not so bad after all.

So Discord is more an exclusive club, than the real Mooncoin-community?
Any reason why Bitcointalk-users are more inactive users or less valuable holders?

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July 10, 2017, 12:22:09 AM
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Can you pop onto the Discord for just a second to see the channel for yourself and how it's laid out?
We're not voting on a just one or two things, it will be many submissions.

It should help to show how organized and simple it is. We've disabled commenting in the poll channel,
and only designers can post their submissions. All we have to do is add voting reactions once the deadline
is up and count them once the voting period is over. Simple!

In the case of one logo submission last time, the votes went up 60+ just hours before the voting period was over.
We were able to see via the logs that is was a botnet that submitted all those votes which made removing
them and getting an *accurate* count an easy matter.

Please understand that until you see it for yourself, you can't understand why we are adamant on using
the Discord for all important voting matters until something better comes along.


I see Discord works best for the convenience with accuracy.  I got it. 

If that's the decision, then o well.  Just wonder how many % of Mooncoin holders / soon-to-be-Mooncoin-holders are using Discord channel...


It's kinda sad that can't see the designs created, but I will be seeing the winner design when decided.  Wink

Why not join the Discord server so you can check out the designs?
https://discord.gg/Qx54TMU

Why "join" only to read/see?
You don't have to just read/see, you can post as well.

That is not the question.
The question is, why should one register only to read?

Bitcointalk works well, even polls are possible.
You should register to read, if you are interested in reading about the activities and projects of the Discord community. If you aren't interested, then you should indeed not register lol.
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July 10, 2017, 12:24:28 AM
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1. Why does Mooncoin need a new logo at all? I have not read a single really valid reason.
2. Since when has been Discord - or whatever it is called - an official outlet of information for MOON? It seems a group of newbies tries to pull the interest over to that channel. For whatever reason, we don't know.
3. It seems that Discord needs a registration only to read. A no-go, to be accepted as an official source of information.
4. It looks like a small group of MOON-newbies is trying to see a "logo-contest" as what is needed for MOON "to survive". Think about what really can be done for MOON, instead of that logo-kindergarten.

In my opinion the original MOON-logo created by deaconboogie is the one and only logo that is needed, which may be optimized slightly, OK, but not now. Regarding this, I'm of the same opinion as another long-term contributor: agswinner. Other serious long-term supporters have expressed their opinion about this needless logo-rave also. There are really more important things to do, than a new logo.

Whether you are a long term supporter or short term supporter does not matter at all. Your opinion is not weighted on such. Neither
does the amount of MOON you may or may not have. You are the few who keep repeating that you like the logo and don't want change
but don't understand the huge amount of people who already voiced their desire for the original logo contest to even happen.

Here's what I don't understand about you guys... you don't really have a clue how many Mooninites there are on the Discord, yet
you constantly paint the group like there's just a few of us and that we're 'amateurs' or 'newbies'. Are you aware that Evangelo and Barry are
both on the Discord and support this movement? And that they've both been on there since shortly after its conception?

To vote here you also have to sign up with an email. It's the same bloody thing. Join the Discord. Talk with the people there who
are actually doing something. Get a clue.

How to get a clue/information without registering? If a registration is needed only to read, it is an irrelevant channel, because the broad public won't read it anyway.

The 'broad public' isn't what the channel is for; it's for active Mooncoin holders and enthusiasts. Only a few thousand of us! So not so bad after all.

So Discord is more an exclusive club, than the real Mooncoin-community?
Any reason why Bitcointalk-users are more inactive users or less valuable holders?
Nope, not an exclusive club. It's free to join for everyone, check out the invite link I posted earlier on. The invite link is also on the Reddit and twitter. As well as on moonchan.org and the upcoming mooncoin.eco. It is also in the ANN.

Nobody is attaching any kind of value to the BCT or Discord users.
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July 10, 2017, 12:25:04 AM
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1. Why does Mooncoin need a new logo at all? I have not read a single really valid reason.
2. Since when has been Discord - or whatever it is called - an official outlet of information for MOON? It seems a group of newbies tries to pull the interest over to that channel. For whatever reason, we don't know.
3. It seems that Discord needs a registration only to read. A no-go, to be accepted as an official source of information.
4. It looks like a small group of MOON-newbies is trying to see a "logo-contest" as what is needed for MOON "to survive". Think about what really can be done for MOON, instead of that logo-kindergarten.

In my opinion the original MOON-logo created by deaconboogie is the one and only logo that is needed, which may be optimized slightly, OK, but not now. Regarding this, I'm of the same opinion as another long-term contributor: agswinner. Other serious long-term supporters have expressed their opinion about this needless logo-rave also. There are really more important things to do, than a new logo.

Whether you are a long term supporter or short term supporter does not matter at all. Your opinion is not weighted on such. Neither
does the amount of MOON you may or may not have. You are the few who keep repeating that you like the logo and don't want change
but don't understand the huge amount of people who already voiced their desire for the original logo contest to even happen.

Here's what I don't understand about you guys... you don't really have a clue how many Mooninites there are on the Discord, yet
you constantly paint the group like there's just a few of us and that we're 'amateurs' or 'newbies'. Are you aware that Evangelo and Barry are
both on the Discord and support this movement? And that they've both been on there since shortly after its conception?

To vote here you also have to sign up with an email. It's the same bloody thing. Join the Discord. Talk with the people there who
are actually doing something. Get a clue.

How to get a clue/information without registering? If a registration is needed only to read, it is an irrelevant channel, because the broad public won't read it anyway.

The 'broad public' isn't what the channel is for; it's for active Mooncoin holders and enthusiasts. Only a few thousand of us! So not so bad after all.

So Discord is more an exclusive club, than the real Mooncoin-community?
Any reason why Bitcointalk-users are more inactive users or less valuable holders?

INCLUSIVE. Because anyone interested in Mooncoin can join in the same way they can join the ANN.

You can keep making a mountain out of a molehill, I've got all night to respond to you. OR join the channel and SEE.

I don't know the reason why Bitcointalk users are more inactive. I certainly never suggested they were less valuable.
What I DID say is that they, including me or anyone else on the Discord or anywhere else, are equal.
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July 10, 2017, 12:27:24 AM
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Can you pop onto the Discord for just a second to see the channel for yourself and how it's laid out?
We're not voting on a just one or two things, it will be many submissions.

It should help to show how organized and simple it is. We've disabled commenting in the poll channel,
and only designers can post their submissions. All we have to do is add voting reactions once the deadline
is up and count them once the voting period is over. Simple!

In the case of one logo submission last time, the votes went up 60+ just hours before the voting period was over.
We were able to see via the logs that is was a botnet that submitted all those votes which made removing
them and getting an *accurate* count an easy matter.

Please understand that until you see it for yourself, you can't understand why we are adamant on using
the Discord for all important voting matters until something better comes along.


I see Discord works best for the convenience with accuracy.  I got it. 

If that's the decision, then o well.  Just wonder how many % of Mooncoin holders / soon-to-be-Mooncoin-holders are using Discord channel...


It's kinda sad that can't see the designs created, but I will be seeing the winner design when decided.  Wink

Why not join the Discord server so you can check out the designs?
https://discord.gg/Qx54TMU

Why "join" only to read/see?
You don't have to just read/see, you can post as well.

That is not the question.
The question is, why should one register only to read?

Bitcointalk works well, even polls are possible.

You'd like to open a couple dozen item voting poll on an open forum where nobody needs to register to vote?
Since when you can vote a poll on Bitcointalk without registering first?

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How exactly do you think that will go? Why exactly are you so determined to not click a Discord link and take 10 seconds
to see for yourself?

Why be forced to register on another platform?

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How exactly do you think that will go? Why exactly are you so determined to not click a Discord link and take 10 seconds
to see for yourself?

Why be forced to register on another platform?
Nobody is forcing you lol. It's your own choice to join the Discord community.
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July 10, 2017, 12:31:42 AM
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Can you pop onto the Discord for just a second to see the channel for yourself and how it's laid out?
We're not voting on a just one or two things, it will be many submissions.

It should help to show how organized and simple it is. We've disabled commenting in the poll channel,
and only designers can post their submissions. All we have to do is add voting reactions once the deadline
is up and count them once the voting period is over. Simple!

In the case of one logo submission last time, the votes went up 60+ just hours before the voting period was over.
We were able to see via the logs that is was a botnet that submitted all those votes which made removing
them and getting an *accurate* count an easy matter.

Please understand that until you see it for yourself, you can't understand why we are adamant on using
the Discord for all important voting matters until something better comes along.


I see Discord works best for the convenience with accuracy.  I got it.  

If that's the decision, then o well.  Just wonder how many % of Mooncoin holders / soon-to-be-Mooncoin-holders are using Discord channel...


It's kinda sad that can't see the designs created, but I will be seeing the winner design when decided.  Wink

Why not join the Discord server so you can check out the designs?
https://discord.gg/Qx54TMU

Why "join" only to read/see?
You don't have to just read/see, you can post as well.

That is not the question.
The question is, why should one register only to read?

Bitcointalk works well, even polls are possible.

You'd like to open a couple dozen item voting poll on an open forum where nobody needs to register to vote?
Since when you can vote a poll on Bitcointalk without registering first?

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How exactly do you think that will go? Why exactly are you so determined to not click a Discord link and take 10 seconds
to see for yourself?

Why be forced to register on another platform?

I thought you were suggesting people don't have to sign up on BCT to vote?

Again, there a huge amount of ease of use factors you aren't considering over using the forum for a voting platform
versus the Discord. You might know that if you were actually ON the Discord. We aren't saying this just for the hell of it.

This conversation we're having is a PERFECT example of what is done better on the Discord... this is cumbersome as fuck.
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July 10, 2017, 12:33:44 AM
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1. Why does Mooncoin need a new logo at all? I have not read a single really valid reason.
2. Since when has been Discord - or whatever it is called - an official outlet of information for MOON? It seems a group of newbies tries to pull the interest over to that channel. For whatever reason, we don't know.
3. It seems that Discord needs a registration only to read. A no-go, to be accepted as an official source of information.
4. It looks like a small group of MOON-newbies is trying to see a "logo-contest" as what is needed for MOON "to survive". Think about what really can be done for MOON, instead of that logo-kindergarten.

In my opinion the original MOON-logo created by deaconboogie is the one and only logo that is needed, which may be optimized slightly, OK, but not now. Regarding this, I'm of the same opinion as another long-term contributor: agswinner. Other serious long-term supporters have expressed their opinion about this needless logo-rave also. There are really more important things to do, than a new logo.

Whether you are a long term supporter or short term supporter does not matter at all. Your opinion is not weighted on such. Neither
does the amount of MOON you may or may not have. You are the few who keep repeating that you like the logo and don't want change
but don't understand the huge amount of people who already voiced their desire for the original logo contest to even happen.

Here's what I don't understand about you guys... you don't really have a clue how many Mooninites there are on the Discord, yet
you constantly paint the group like there's just a few of us and that we're 'amateurs' or 'newbies'. Are you aware that Evangelo and Barry are
both on the Discord and support this movement? And that they've both been on there since shortly after its conception?

To vote here you also have to sign up with an email. It's the same bloody thing. Join the Discord. Talk with the people there who
are actually doing something. Get a clue.

How to get a clue/information without registering? If a registration is needed only to read, it is an irrelevant channel, because the broad public won't read it anyway.

The 'broad public' isn't what the channel is for; it's for active Mooncoin holders and enthusiasts. Only a few thousand of us! So not so bad after all.

So Discord is more an exclusive club, than the real Mooncoin-community?
Any reason why Bitcointalk-users are more inactive users or less valuable holders?

INCLUSIVE. Because anyone interested in Mooncoin can join in the same way they can join the ANN.

You can keep making a mountain out of a molehill, I've got all night to respond to you. OR join the channel and SEE.

I don't know the reason why Bitcointalk users are more inactive. I certainly never suggested they were less valuable.
What I DID say is that they, including me or anyone else on the Discord or anywhere else, are equal.

You mean, anyone interested in Discord.

Until you have opened your Discord-channel, everything Mooncoin has been discussed here on Bitcointalk. Discord may be one other channel, but it is not THE channel.

Bitcointalk-users are NOT more inactive, even if you seem to transport this. Maybe they are working more in the background and you don't see it, because they do not call for some useless logo-contest every week.

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July 10, 2017, 12:37:43 AM
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1. Why does Mooncoin need a new logo at all? I have not read a single really valid reason.
2. Since when has been Discord - or whatever it is called - an official outlet of information for MOON? It seems a group of newbies tries to pull the interest over to that channel. For whatever reason, we don't know.
3. It seems that Discord needs a registration only to read. A no-go, to be accepted as an official source of information.
4. It looks like a small group of MOON-newbies is trying to see a "logo-contest" as what is needed for MOON "to survive". Think about what really can be done for MOON, instead of that logo-kindergarten.

In my opinion the original MOON-logo created by deaconboogie is the one and only logo that is needed, which may be optimized slightly, OK, but not now. Regarding this, I'm of the same opinion as another long-term contributor: agswinner. Other serious long-term supporters have expressed their opinion about this needless logo-rave also. There are really more important things to do, than a new logo.

Whether you are a long term supporter or short term supporter does not matter at all. Your opinion is not weighted on such. Neither
does the amount of MOON you may or may not have. You are the few who keep repeating that you like the logo and don't want change
but don't understand the huge amount of people who already voiced their desire for the original logo contest to even happen.

Here's what I don't understand about you guys... you don't really have a clue how many Mooninites there are on the Discord, yet
you constantly paint the group like there's just a few of us and that we're 'amateurs' or 'newbies'. Are you aware that Evangelo and Barry are
both on the Discord and support this movement? And that they've both been on there since shortly after its conception?

To vote here you also have to sign up with an email. It's the same bloody thing. Join the Discord. Talk with the people there who
are actually doing something. Get a clue.

How to get a clue/information without registering? If a registration is needed only to read, it is an irrelevant channel, because the broad public won't read it anyway.

The 'broad public' isn't what the channel is for; it's for active Mooncoin holders and enthusiasts. Only a few thousand of us! So not so bad after all.

So Discord is more an exclusive club, than the real Mooncoin-community?
Any reason why Bitcointalk-users are more inactive users or less valuable holders?

INCLUSIVE. Because anyone interested in Mooncoin can join in the same way they can join the ANN.

You can keep making a mountain out of a molehill, I've got all night to respond to you. OR join the channel and SEE.

I don't know the reason why Bitcointalk users are more inactive. I certainly never suggested they were less valuable.
What I DID say is that they, including me or anyone else on the Discord or anywhere else, are equal.

You mean, anyone interested in Discord.

Until you have opened your Discord-channel, everything Mooncoin has been discussed here on Bitcointalk. Discord may be one other channel, but it is not THE channel.

Bitcointalk-users are NOT more inactive, even if you seem to transport this. Maybe they are working more in the background and you don't see it, because they do not call for some useless logo-contest every week.

coinflow, if you think a logo contest is the only thing that's come out of the Discord, chances are we don't want you there anyways, so it's
best that you stick to the ANN. That's an impressive amount of willful ignorance you're displaying.

And yes, they ARE more inactive compared to the MOUNTAIN of things we've accomplished in the Discord in the last month.
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July 10, 2017, 12:40:54 AM
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You mean, anyone interested in Discord.

Until you have opened your Discord-channel, everything Mooncoin has been discussed here on Bitcointalk. Discord may be one other channel, but it is not THE channel.

Bitcointalk-users are NOT more inactive, even if you seem to transport this. Maybe they are working more in the background and you don't see it, because they do not call for some useless logo-contest every week.
Bitcointalk is not THE channel either. Look at what the starter of this community, MOONCOIN_FOUNDATION, is saying. This is a decentralized coin where no single place if the official channel.

The Discord gets hundreds times as many messages a day as this ANN and there are a lot of projects being worked on. Like I told you before, there are a lot of good projects coming from there. But you ignored that message. You're trying to manipulate this entire discussion. Stop the fudding man. You are harming Mooncoin.
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July 10, 2017, 12:43:06 AM
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Can you pop onto the Discord for just a second to see the channel for yourself and how it's laid out?
We're not voting on a just one or two things, it will be many submissions.

It should help to show how organized and simple it is. We've disabled commenting in the poll channel,
and only designers can post their submissions. All we have to do is add voting reactions once the deadline
is up and count them once the voting period is over. Simple!

In the case of one logo submission last time, the votes went up 60+ just hours before the voting period was over.
We were able to see via the logs that is was a botnet that submitted all those votes which made removing
them and getting an *accurate* count an easy matter.

Please understand that until you see it for yourself, you can't understand why we are adamant on using
the Discord for all important voting matters until something better comes along.


I see Discord works best for the convenience with accuracy.  I got it.  

If that's the decision, then o well.  Just wonder how many % of Mooncoin holders / soon-to-be-Mooncoin-holders are using Discord channel...


It's kinda sad that can't see the designs created, but I will be seeing the winner design when decided.  Wink

Why not join the Discord server so you can check out the designs?
https://discord.gg/Qx54TMU

Why "join" only to read/see?
You don't have to just read/see, you can post as well.

That is not the question.
The question is, why should one register only to read?

Bitcointalk works well, even polls are possible.

You'd like to open a couple dozen item voting poll on an open forum where nobody needs to register to vote?
Since when you can vote a poll on Bitcointalk without registering first?

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How exactly do you think that will go? Why exactly are you so determined to not click a Discord link and take 10 seconds
to see for yourself?

Why be forced to register on another platform?

I thought you were suggesting people don't have to sign up on BCT to vote?

Again, there a huge amount of ease of use factors you aren't considering over using the forum for a voting platform
versus the Discord. You might know that if you were actually ON the Discord. We aren't saying this just for the hell of it.

This conversation we're having is a PERFECT example of what is done better on the Discord... this is cumbersome as fuck.

It's only what you make it.
Maybe Discord-users have all day for discussions about rather unimportant topics. Me not. I'll be out, since I have expressed my opinion and I'm confident, that people who care will draw the right conclusions.

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July 10, 2017, 12:46:07 AM
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Can you pop onto the Discord for just a second to see the channel for yourself and how it's laid out?
We're not voting on a just one or two things, it will be many submissions.

It should help to show how organized and simple it is. We've disabled commenting in the poll channel,
and only designers can post their submissions. All we have to do is add voting reactions once the deadline
is up and count them once the voting period is over. Simple!

In the case of one logo submission last time, the votes went up 60+ just hours before the voting period was over.
We were able to see via the logs that is was a botnet that submitted all those votes which made removing
them and getting an *accurate* count an easy matter.

Please understand that until you see it for yourself, you can't understand why we are adamant on using
the Discord for all important voting matters until something better comes along.


I see Discord works best for the convenience with accuracy.  I got it.  

If that's the decision, then o well.  Just wonder how many % of Mooncoin holders / soon-to-be-Mooncoin-holders are using Discord channel...


It's kinda sad that can't see the designs created, but I will be seeing the winner design when decided.  Wink

Why not join the Discord server so you can check out the designs?
https://discord.gg/Qx54TMU

Why "join" only to read/see?
You don't have to just read/see, you can post as well.

That is not the question.
The question is, why should one register only to read?

Bitcointalk works well, even polls are possible.

You'd like to open a couple dozen item voting poll on an open forum where nobody needs to register to vote?
Since when you can vote a poll on Bitcointalk without registering first?

Quote
How exactly do you think that will go? Why exactly are you so determined to not click a Discord link and take 10 seconds
to see for yourself?

Why be forced to register on another platform?

I thought you were suggesting people don't have to sign up on BCT to vote?

Again, there a huge amount of ease of use factors you aren't considering over using the forum for a voting platform
versus the Discord. You might know that if you were actually ON the Discord. We aren't saying this just for the hell of it.

This conversation we're having is a PERFECT example of what is done better on the Discord... this is cumbersome as fuck.

It's only what you make it.
Maybe Discord-users have all day for discussions about rather unimportant topics. Me not. I'll be out, since I have expressed my opinion and I'm confident, that people who care will draw the right conclusions.
You keep insulting the Discord users and keep coming up with fake information. You are also ignoring all the posts explaining the actual facts about the discord. Way to go.
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July 10, 2017, 12:50:49 AM
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Can you pop onto the Discord for just a second to see the channel for yourself and how it's laid out?
We're not voting on a just one or two things, it will be many submissions.

It should help to show how organized and simple it is. We've disabled commenting in the poll channel,
and only designers can post their submissions. All we have to do is add voting reactions once the deadline
is up and count them once the voting period is over. Simple!

In the case of one logo submission last time, the votes went up 60+ just hours before the voting period was over.
We were able to see via the logs that is was a botnet that submitted all those votes which made removing
them and getting an *accurate* count an easy matter.

Please understand that until you see it for yourself, you can't understand why we are adamant on using
the Discord for all important voting matters until something better comes along.


I see Discord works best for the convenience with accuracy.  I got it.  

If that's the decision, then o well.  Just wonder how many % of Mooncoin holders / soon-to-be-Mooncoin-holders are using Discord channel...


It's kinda sad that can't see the designs created, but I will be seeing the winner design when decided.  Wink

Why not join the Discord server so you can check out the designs?
https://discord.gg/Qx54TMU

Why "join" only to read/see?
You don't have to just read/see, you can post as well.

That is not the question.
The question is, why should one register only to read?

Bitcointalk works well, even polls are possible.

You'd like to open a couple dozen item voting poll on an open forum where nobody needs to register to vote?
Since when you can vote a poll on Bitcointalk without registering first?

Quote
How exactly do you think that will go? Why exactly are you so determined to not click a Discord link and take 10 seconds
to see for yourself?

Why be forced to register on another platform?

I thought you were suggesting people don't have to sign up on BCT to vote?

Again, there a huge amount of ease of use factors you aren't considering over using the forum for a voting platform
versus the Discord. You might know that if you were actually ON the Discord. We aren't saying this just for the hell of it.

This conversation we're having is a PERFECT example of what is done better on the Discord... this is cumbersome as fuck.

It's only what you make it.
Maybe Discord-users have all day for discussions about rather unimportant topics. Me not. I'll be out, since I have expressed my opinion and I'm confident, that people who care will draw the right conclusions.

Pay attention ANN users; reverting to assuming negative things you can't know anything about (because he's not on the Discord
and knows nothing of its happenings) is classic troll misdirection. Make shit up when logic doesn't work! *slowclap*
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